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 131Gluchowski - Cross - Lowell1 (Court reconvened at 1:00 PM.)2 (Jury present.)3 THE COURT: Mr. Lowell, please.4 MR. LOWELL: Thank you, your Honor, and thank you,5 Mr. Gluchowski and ladies and gentlemen.6 BY MR. LOWELL:7 Q Before the break, I asked you a question about a8 company called Asentinal and Dave Purdue and you answered a9 bunch of questions. In your examination you were asked10 questions concerning what you had previously said in the11 grand jury. Do you remember those kinds of questions?12 A Yes.13 Q You said you were in the grand jury twice, right?14 A Yes.15 Q And you had four or five other meetings with16 prosecutors and the FBI?17 A Yes, that's --18 Q When was the first time you recall being asked any19 question about a company called Asentinal or Dave Purdue?20 MS. COOMBE: Objection, relevance.21 THE COURT: What is the relevance of the question?22 MR. LOWELL: The inference that the reading of23 prior questions reflected something other than what it24 reflects.25 THE COURT: Sustained.THERESA J. CASAL, RPR, CRRUNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT - NDNY
 
132Gluchowski - Cross - Lowell1 BY MR. LOWELL:2 Q Whenever you reviewed the agreements that you've3 gone through, the CTA, CT&A, Motient, TerreStar, BB Gardner4 and one with Asentinal that didn't come about, did you ever5 conclude that any new formal opinion from the ethics6 opinion -- Ethics Committee was required?7 A No, I did not.8 Q And did you discuss that with somebody that you9 worked with?10 A I may have discussed it with Ken Riddett, but I11 don't recall specifically that I did on any one of those12 individual ones.13 Q Indeed, you yourself, did you come to a conclusion14 about whether any one was needed?15 A Yes. In my estimation, it wasn't needed because I16 didn't think that the facts as they were presented to me17 posed a substantial conflict of interest. I was more18 concerned about the amount of money involved.19 Q And did that have any bearing on whether he should20 or should not do it if there was no substantial conflict?21 A No. That was more of a public relations issue in22 my opinion.23 Q Finally, let me turn to the issue of the last one24 asked by Ms. Coombe this morning about the financial25 disclosure process. The process was, as I understood itTHERESA J. CASAL, RPR, CRRUNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT - NDNY
 
133Gluchowski - Cross - Lowell1 from Mr. Bruno, that you would meet with somebody every year2 that you started the process of becoming involved?3 A Yes.4 Q And that was who?5 A Pat Stackrow.6 Q And in addition to Ms. Stackrow, you would talk7 with Mr. Riddett?8 A Correct.9 Q And it wouldn't be just that you would talk; you10 guys would go over the forms?11 A We would sit down communally at a desk and12 actually look at the form as it was drafted for this year13 and look at the prior year's form and Pat often had some14 notes that accompanied her, which indicated what specific15 transactions she was aware of from the prior year.16 Q And was it your understanding that Miss Stackrow17 kept all that financial information for Mr. Bruno?18 A Oh, yes, that's the only place that I would think19 to get it.20 Q And if you had questions, you knew to get it from21 her?22 A Right.23 Q At any time, did Mr. Bruno say to you don't ask24 Pat Stackrow any questions?25 A No, he never did.THERESA J. CASAL, RPR, CRRUNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT - NDNY
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