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i n c o r r e c t .
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o f un i d e n t i f i e d f l yi n g c r a f t t h r o ug h o ut t h e p e r i o d i n que st i o n .
T h e o n l y r a d a r p l o t o b se r ve d , w h i c h w a s i d e n t i f i e d o n t h e N a t i o n a l
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c o n f i r m b e yo n d r e a so n a b l e d o ub t t h a t t h i s jud g e me n t w a s so un d .
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que st i o n .
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o f un i d e n t i fi e d fl yi n g
c r a ft t h r o ug h o ut t h e p e r i o d i n que st i o n .
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e l e va t i o n i n fo r ma t i o n i n c o n n e c t i o n w i t h a n y o f t h e si g h t i n g s o f
l i g h t s o b se r ve d i n t h e a r e a o f T h e Wa sh . Fr o m t h a t p r o vi d e d ,
i n c l ud i n g t h e vi d e o w h i c h w a s n o t fo w a r d e d t o us
b y
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V e n us w h i c h h a d b e e n e xc e p t i o n a l l y b r i g h t d ur i n g t h e w e e k i n
que st i o n .
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DRAFT
D/USofS/4168/96
November 1996
Thank you for your letter of 24 October addressed to
Michael Portillo expressing concern about the effectiveness of
the UK air defence system. I am replying as this matter falls
within
my
area of responsibility.
I must say at the outset that much of the content of the
press reports enclosed with your letter is incorrect,
ill-
informed and speculative. Much of what you say in your letter
is also incorrect.
The facts are that our air defence system found no
evidence of unidentified flying craft throughout the period in
question. The only radar plot observed, which was identified
on the National Air Traffic Services Claxby radar in the
position of Boston, was judged by
experienced operators at two
separate locations to be a permanent echo, caused
by
a natural
phenomena (something that does occur in certain weather
conditions), not suspicious in nature nor of any significance
to air or maritime safety, and of no air defence or air
concern. The characteristics of the radar plot confirm beyond
reasonable doubt that this,judgement was sound.
.
. . .
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There is very little reliable or accurate bearing or
elevation information in connection with any of the sightings
of lights observed in the area of The Wash. From that
provided, including the video which was not fowarded to us
by
the Lincolnshire Police HQ until 5 November, the Greenwich
Observatory view is that the lights were of celestial origin
and likely to be Venus which had been exceptionally bright
during the week in question.
I am confident that there is no evidence that the UK Air
Defence Region was compromised. There was, of course, no
reason whatsoever, in the light of the above for any further
military action.
THE EARL HOWE
Martin Redmond, MP
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DRAFT
D/USofS/4168/96 November 1996
Thank you for your letter of 24 October addressed to
Michael Portillo expressing concern about the effectiveness of
the UK air defence system. I am
replying as this matter falls
within my
area of responsib.ility.
I must say at the outset that much of the content of the
press reports enclosed with your letter is incorrect, ill-
informed and speculative. Much of what you say in your letter
is also incorrect.
The facts are that our air defence system found no
evidence of unidentified flying craft throughout the period ln
question. The only radar plot observed, which was identified
on the National Air Traffic Services Claxby radar in the
position of Boston, was judged by experienced operators at two
separate locations to be a permanent echo, caused
by
a natural
phenomena (something that does occur in certain weather
conditions), not suspicious in nature nor of any significance
to air or maritime safety, and of no air defence or air
concern. The characteristics of the radar plot confirm beyond
reasonable doubt that this judgement was sound.
.
There is very little teliable or accurate bearing or
elevation information in connection with any of the sightings
of lights observed in the area of The Wash. From that
provided, including the video which was not fowarded to us
by
the Lincolnshire Police HQ until 5 November, the Greenwich
Observatory view is that the lights were of celestial origin
and likely to be Venus which had been exceptionally bright
during the week in question.
I am confident that there is no evidence that the UK Air
Defence Region was compromised. There was, of course, no
reason whatsoever, in the light of the above for any further
military action.
THE EARL HOWE
Martin Redmond, MP
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all available displays, observed the same plot on the same Claxby
radar in the same position. This information was also relayed to
ARCC thence to MRCC; by now, MRCC had consciously or
subconsciously associated the reports of lights with the Boston
radar return and assumed an investigative and coordination role
for the rest of the night.
3. Actions by
Air Defence System. Meanwhile, CRC Neatisheads
inquiries had revealed no sign of air movements or military
exercises in the area and there was no evidence of unidentified
air activity on any radar; the stationary radar plot, without
associated height or IFF/SSR support, therefore, was judged by
experienced operators at both Neatishead and the D&D Cell to be a
permanent echo, and the separate stationary lights as some form of
natural phenomena of no air defence or air concern. It was clear
that no flying craft had penetrated the UKADR or was present on
any radar; furthermore, the unrelated stationary light reports
were not suspicious in nature or of significance to air or
maritime safety, therefore, no recommendation to scramble a Quick
Reaction Alert aircraft from RAF Leuchars to investigate either
the permanent echo or the reported lights was sought.
4. Subsequent Reporting. Updates and further information on
both the plot and lights continued to be sought by
MRCC from
several sources on open circuits and reported, and sometimes
distorted, in the process. Further interest in the radar plot was
kept alive at the instigation of the coastguard, leading to the
eventual involvement of several other control agencies including
LATCC(Civil), LATCC(Military), Anglia Radar and Waddington
Approach. Further interest in the lights was maintained
by
the
coastguard until they disappeared with the dawn, involving a
tanker vessel at sea, Boston and Skegness Police Forces and
LATCC(Civil).
INVESTIGATION OF RADAR PLOT AND VISUAL SIGHTINGS
5. The various observations which occurred in the early hours of
5 Oct 96 and the various phenomenae have been investigated in
considerable detail. The relevant logs maintained
by
on-duty
Military and Civilian personnel have been studied and, where
possible, key observers and operators, both civil and military,
have been interviewed by
telephone.
THE BOSTON PLOT
6. Plot Characteristics. A radar Plot was observed in the
position of Boston, Lines, on the National Air Traffic Services
(NATS) sensor at Claxby, near Market Rasen, when attention was
drawn to the area
by
Great Yarmouth Coastguard. It was observed
by
the D&D Cell from approximately 0225Z and
by CRC Neatishead
from 0230Z; both organisations have access to the same radar
display although neither uses that radar on a routine basis for
surveillance or aircraft control in the Wash area. Later, the
plot was observed by Anglia Radar at Stanstead, which opened at
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ANNEX F TO
D/DAO/1/13
DATED 13 NOV 96
ABBREVIATED COMMENTS ON MR REDMONDS LETTER
1. General. Mr Redmonds comments are largely based on radio
traffic between Gt Yarmouth Coastguard Maritime Rescue
Coordination Centre and various agencies which was either released
or intercepted then reported in the press and interpreted in
various ways; erroneously, the visual observations of lights have
been linked with persistent radar returns from a permanent echo at
Boston Lincs.
2 . Para 1. There was no visual identified flying craft only
unusual lights; correlation by
~various different military radar
systems did not occur.
3. Para 2 .
a. Lights with different characteristics were observed to
the E and/or SE of Skegness and Boston by
Police and
by the
crew of MV Conocoast some 8 miles east of Skegness. A
separate stationary object was detected on one ATC radar at
Claxby, Lincs, over Boston and observed on the same radar
display at Neatishead, Anglia Radar (later) and the D&D Cell
at the London Air Traffic Control Centre (LATCC) West
Drayton; a stationary object was also detected much later on
the Waddington approach radar, however this was in a separate
position, not over Boston. Three aircraft subsequently flew
close to the
~object but no sighting of an airborne vehicle
was made.
b. RAF Northwood was never involved in this event.
confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred
incorrectly to
D&D
Northwood instead of
~D&D
West Drayton
in several transmissions or conversations; this error was
reproduced in press reports.
4 . Para 3.
a. Aircraft were not scrambled because there was no
evidence whatsoever of an unidentified airborne vehicle in
the vicinity.
b. Tornado F 3 QRA aircraft are held on high alert at RAF
Leuchars but not routinely at Leeming or Coningsby.
c. The RAF Air Rescue Coordination Centre (ARCC), Kinloss
was only involved
by
Gt Yarmouth Coastguard Maritime Rescue
Coordination Centre (MRCC) to ascertain whether they knew of
any air activity in the area. ARCC, in turn, asked CRC
Neatishead and D&D who replied in the negative; ARCC
subsequently relayed several messages between D&DjNeatishead
and the MRCC concerning the stationary radar plot.
5 . Para 4 . Locations of permanent echoes are well known to
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b . Question 2
There was no evidence of unidentified aircraft b eing
present in the UKADR on 5 Oct 96, therefore, there was no
reason to scramb le aircraft on alert. Police and the tanker
MV CONOCOAST saw LIGHTS not ob jects or any flying craft. No
lights were ob served
b y any aircraft in the area; negative
reports were received from 2 civilian aircraft which flew
b y
the area at 05 2 0- 05 30Z
c. Question 3
Procedures exist to scramb le aircraft to investigate
unidentified aircraft detected on radar, which was not the
case on 5 Oct.
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I am very concerned abou t an incident t hat occu rred of f t he
East A ngl ian coast recent l y, invol ving a visu al u nident if ied
f l ying craf t sight ing w hich w as correl at ed
by variou s dif f erent
m il it ary radar syst em s. I have at t ached, f or you r inf orm at ion,
copies of som e recent press report s.
From t hese press report s it w ou l d seem as if t he u nident if ied
f l ying craf t w as seen
by
t he crew of a t anker; t he crew of a civil
aircraf t ; pol ice at Skegness (w ho t ook a video) , and pol ice at
B ost on. Sim u l t aneou sl y, t he obj ect seem s t o have been picked u p
on m il it ary radar syst em s at R. A . F. N eat ishead, R. A . F. Waddingt on,
and R. A . F. N ort hw ood, t oget her w it h syst em s at London and at
A ngl ia radar.
What st rikes m e as incredibl e is t hat no aircraf t w ere
scram bl ed w hen an u ncorrel at ed t arget w as picked u p so cl ose t o
t he coast . This raises f or m e, seriou s issu es abou t t he w ay in
w hich w e pol ice t he U. K . A ir Def ence Region (U. K . A . D. R. ) . Given
t hat w e have Tornado F. 3 aircraf t based at R. A . F. Leu chars; R. A . F.
Leem ing; and R. A . F. Coningsby, shou l d not one of t hese bases have
had A ir Def ence aircraf t on Q u ick React ion A l ert
(Q . R. A . ) , and
shou l d a l au nch not have been ordered? I am al so u ncl ear as t o
t he invol vem ent of R. A . F. K inl oss in Scot l and, hom e of ou r N im rod
M arit im e Pat rol A ircraf t .
A st ory seem s t o have been pu t arou nd t hat t he radar syst em s
, , J ere picking u p
B ost on s chu rch t o i er!
A l t hou gh "grou nd cl u t t er"
s~ n
give spu riou s ret u rns arou nd cert ain radar heads,
m y
u nderst anding is t hat t he l ocat ions of su ch areas are w el l know n)
and t hat su ch an ef f ect is u nl ikel y t o be repeat ed on so m any
dif f erent radar syst em s. Som e of t he A ir Traf f ic Cont rol radars
m ight have dif f icu l t y w it h grou nd cl u t t er, bu t A ir Def ence radar
qyst em s and t heir skil l ed operat ors shou l d know t he dif f erence.
This "expl anat ion" al so f ail s t o t ake accou nt of t he visu al
sight ings.
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Out o f th i s w o r l d
T h I s I s th e tr a n s c r i p t o f th e c o n v e r s a ti o n s b e tw e e n
c o a s tg ua r d s ; RAF s ta ti o n s I n N o r f o l k , S c o tl a n d a n d
L o n d o n , p o l l e e a n d N o r th S e a ta n k e r C o n o c o a s t
w h e n s tr a n g e l i g h ts w e r e s e e n I n th e n i g h t s k y a t
th e w e e k e n d . I t I s th e r e c o r d I n g ta k e n a t
Y a n n o uth C o a s tg ua r d h e a d q ua r te r s :
0 3 1 .4 S k e g n e s s p o l l e e :
"We
c a n s e e a s tr a n g e
r e d .a n d .g r e e n r o ta ti n g l i g h t i n th e s k y d e c tl y
s o uth - B a s tf r o m S k e g n e s s .l t l o o k s s tr a n g e a s i t
i s s ta ti o n a r y a n d th e r e i s n o a i r c r a f t s o un d i n
th e a r e a ."
0 3 26 RAF K l n l o s s : "N o r th w o o d h a v e a r a d a r
c o n ta c t b e a r i n g 221 d e g r e e s a t 1 6 m i l e s , i t l o o k s
to b e s ta ti o n a r y a n d th e r e i s n o w a y o f
d e te r m i n i n g i ts h e i g h t b ut i t m us t b e q ui te a
s i z e to b e v i s i b l e f r o m S k e g n e s s ."
0 3 3 1 . K l n l o s s : "N e a ti s h e a d n o w c o n .f m n s a
c o up l e o f r a d a r c o n ta c ts i n th e a r e a b ut n o
h e i g h t, th e y s e e m to b e s ta ti o n a r y . T h e r e a r e
d e f i n i te l y n o m i l i ta r y a c r a f t i n th e a r e a a n d
n o n o ti f i e d c i v i l f l i g h ts s h o ul d b e th e r e ."
0 3 4 6 C o n o c o a s t ta n k e r :
"We
h a v e th e s e l i g h ts
o n v i s ua l . N o w th e y a r e f l a s h i n g r e d , g r e e n a n d
w h i te . C a n n o t i d e n ti f y i t a s a n a c r a f t a s i t
l o o k s s ta ti o n a r y a n d i t i s a p p r o x i m a te l y o n e
m i l e h i g h ."
Y a n n o uth C o a s tg ua r d :
"Di d
y o u s e e f r o m w h i c h
d i r e c ti o n i t a p p e a r e d ? "
C o n o c o a s t: "N o . I t j us t a p p e a r e d a n d i s
s ta ti o n a r v ."
0 3 53 K l n l ~ s s : "N e a ti s h e a d s a y i t c o ul d b e
c a us e d b v th e w e a th e r "
C o a s tg ua ~ d :
"I d o n t th i n k s o a s w e h a v e v i s ua l
c o n ta c t."
K l n l o s s : "We l l . N e a tL S h e a d a n d N o r th w o o d
r e p o r t th a t th e r e i s n o tr a n s p o n d e r o n th i s
0 51 7 B o s to n p o l i c e :
"We
c a n s ti l l s e e th e l i g h t. I t
i s to w a r d s th e s o uth - B a s t a n d s e e m s a b o ut 4 S
d e g r e e s i n th e s k y . I t i s j us t a b r i g h t l i g h t to
us :
0 52: 1 K l n l o s s : "N e a ti s h e a d a r e r un n i n g a tr a c e
o n th i s a n d c a n n o t e x p l a i n i t. I f th e y a r e
h e l i c o p te r s th e y a r e f a s t a p p r o a c h i n g th e e n d o f
th e i r e n d ur a n c e a s i t i s w e l l o v e r tw o h o ur s
s i n c e th e f I r s t r e p o r t l e t a l o n e h o w l o n g th e y
w e r e up th e r e b e f o r e th e y w e r e a c tua l l y
s i g h te d ."
0 552 C o n o c o a s t:
"We
c a n s ti l l s e e th e l i g h ts .
a n d th e y a r e o n th e i r o r i g i n a l b e a r i n g s a n d
f l a s h i n g th e s a m e c o l o ur s b ut th e y s e e m h i g h e r
a n d d i m m e r "
0 70 8 Al g h t U e ute n a n t M c Fa r l a n e , N .e a tl s h e a d :
"We
h a d a r e p o r t f r o m N o r th w o o d th a t a c i v i l
f l i g h t h a d a l s o r e p o r te d s tr a n g e l i g h ts i n th e
a r e a . T h e y f i t e x a c tl y w h a t w a s s e e n f r o m th e
g r o un d , m ul ti - c o l o ur e d , f l a s h i n g , s ta ti o n a r y
l i g h ts ."
0 73 1 Fl i g h t U e ute n a n t G e o r g e , N o r th w o o d : "T h i s
e c h o i S H \ ti l l o n o ur s c r e e n s a n d w e c a n n o t
e x p l a i n th i s a t a l l a p a r t f r o m i t b e i n g a
m e te o r o l o g i c a l p h e n o m e n o n b ut th e n a g a i n w e
h a v e v i s ua l s i g h ti n g s a l s o . T h e c i v i l i a n f 1 i g h t
th a t r e p o r te d th e s e l i g h ts a s a f l a r e w a s s i x
m i l e s a w a y a t th e ti m e . AU v e r y s tr a n g e ."
1 .1 0 9 N e a tl s h e a d : "T h e
o b j e c t s ti l l h a s n o t
m o v e d , L o n d o n r a d a r a n d Wa d d i n g to n c a n a l s (
s e e i t."
: 1 9 20 An g U a r a d a r : "T h e r e i s n o th i n g th e r e n o w ,
w e a r e o f th e o p i n i o n th a t i t w a s th e B o s to n
S tum p ."
Wi n d : Fo r c e Fo ur . V i s i b i l i ty : 20 m i l e s .
o b j e c t a n d th e r e f o r e n o m e a n s o f i n te r r o g a ti o n .
I t i s o b v i o us th a t w h a te v e r i t i s i t d o e s n o t w a n t
a n y o n e to k n o w th a t i t i s th e r e . Al s o
N e a ti s h e a d r e p o r t i ts p o s i ti o n a s d i r e c tl y o v e r
B o s to n ."
0 4 Q8 C o n o c o a s t:
"I t
i s s ti l l s ta ti o n a r y a n d
f l a s h i n g r e d , g r e e n , b l ue a n d w h i te . I t l o o k s
v e r y h i g h , n o r th o f us , a n d th e r e i s n o e n g i n e
n o i s e .
0 4 1 7 C o a s tg ua r d : "S k e g n e s s , c a n y o u g e t v i d e o
f o o ta g e a s th e RAF a r e v e r y i n te r e s te d a n d m a y
r e q ui r e i t l a te r :
0 4 27 K l n l o s s : "N e a ti s h e a d a r e k e e p i n g a l o g o f
w h a t l o o k s l i k e c l utte r o n th e r a d a r ."
0 4 4 5 Y a r m o uth C o a s tg ua r d : "C o n o c o a s t. c a n y o u
g i v e us a n up d a te ? "
C o n o c o a s t:
"We
c a n s e e tw o l i g h ts tl a s h i n g
g r e e n a n d r e d ."
0 50 1 C o a s tg ua r d : "G i v e us b o th b e a r i n g s o f th e
tw o l i g h ts "
C o n o c o a s t: "T h e r e i s o n e s ta ti o n a r y l i g h t a t 3 4 5
d e g tr ue a n d th e o th e r a t 1 60 tr ue , th e l i g h ts a r e
b o th v i s i b l e w i th th e n a k e d e y e a n d b o th
e x h i b i t th e s a m e c h a r a c te r i s ti c s f l a s h i n g r e d ,
b l ue , g r e e n a n d w h i te ."
Di d
y o u
s e e th e
m y s te r i o us
b r i g h t l i g h ts ?
T h e s o ur c e o f
"s tr a n g e "
b r i g h t w a s ta k i n g th e s i g h ti n g s s e r i o us l y
l i g h ts s p o tte d i n th e s k y o f T E a s t a n d
"a l l p o s s i b i l i ti e s " w o ul d b e
An g l i a a t th e w e e k e n d r e m a i n e d a c o v e r e d .
m y s te r y Ja s t n i g h t. S p o k e s m a n N i g e l S c r g e ; j n t s a i d :
P o l i c e . th e RAF a n d s h i p p i n g
"We
a r e tr y i n g to p r o v e th a t i t d o e s
r e p o r te d th e a p p e a r a n c e o f tw o n o t r e p r e s e n t a n y s o r t o f s e c ur i ty
l a r g e , un e x p l a i n e d o b j e c ts a b o v e th r e a t a n d th a t i t w a s n o t a n
th e Wa s h i n th e e a r l y h o ur s o f a g g r e s s i v e i n tr us i o n i n to o ur
S a tur d a y .
.
a i r s p a c e . T h i s i s o n e o f th e b i g g e r
B a I De d p e r s o n n e l a t RAF s i g h ti n g s r e c e n tl y a n d h a s c a us e r !
N e a ti s h e a d s p e n t h o ur s tr a .c k i n g q ui te a b i t o f i n te r e s t."
th e U FOs , d e s c r i b B d b y w i tn e s s e s S k e g n e s s p o ti c e c a l l e d th e
a s
l a r g e , a b o ut a m i l e up i n th e s k y , c o a s tg ua r d s a t 3 .1 4 a m o n S a tur d a y
a n d w i th b l ue . w h i te . r e d a n d g r e e n
a f te r s e e i n g a n um b e r o f o b j e c ts
f l a s h L 1 g l i g h ts . f l a s h i n g i n th e s k y . w h i c h w e r e a l s o
T h e M i n i s tr y o f De f e n c e s a i d i t s p o tte d b y c o U e a g ue s a t B o s to n .
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S i g h ti n g s , w h i c h c o n ti n ue d un ti l
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s c r e e n s a t a b o ut 1 1 a m o n S a tur d a y ,
l a te r c a m e f r o m a ta n k e r a n d a
c i v i l i a n a i r c r a f t, w h i l e tw o
m i l i ta r y r a c l a r s ta ti o n s v e r i f i e d
"s tr a n g e "
tr a c e s .
FI t L t K e i th S w e a tm a n , o f RAF
N e a ti s h e a d . s a i d :
"We
h a v e n o t
b e e n a b l e to o f T e r I \ n e x p l a n a ti o n .
"T h e
n um b e r o f i n d e p e n d e n t
r e p o r ts w e h a v e h a d s ug g e s t th e r e
i s s o m e th i n g to f o l l o w up . We w i l l
b e i n v e s ti g a ti n g th o r o ug h l y ."
Wi tn e s s e s h e a r d n o a i r c r a f t n o i s e
a n d m m ta r y r a d a r s h o w e d n o
a i r c r a f t. c i v i l o r m i l i ta r y . i n th .
a r e a , a p a r t f r o m th e c i v i l i a n tl i g : ;
w h i c h r e p o r te d "s tr a n g e l i g h ts ."
M i l i ta r y o f f i c i a l s s a i d n o a i r f o r e
p l a n e s h a d b e e n s c r a m b l e d t
i n v e s ti g a te .
C o a s tg ua r d s y e s te r d a y s ug g e s tc
th e l i g h ts m i g h t h a v e b e e n V e n u:
B ut I a n M o r i s o n , a s c i e n ti s t a t tF.
r a d i o a s tr o n o m y o b s e r v a to r y
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un l i k e l y a s th e p l a n e t w o ul d n ,
h a v e b e e n v i s i b l e a f te r s un r i s e .
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26
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e x c l u d i n g t h e m .
Sa m p l e s i z e t o o s m a l l f o r r e l i a b ] e e s t i m a t e .
So u r c e :
L a b o u r F o r c e Su r v e y (w i n t e r 1 9 9 5- 9 6 ) , Of f i c e f o r Na t i o n a l St a t i s t i c s .
H i g h l y I n d e b t e d P o o r C o u n t r i e s I n i t i a t i v e
Mr . Bi l l Mi c h i e : T o a s k t h e C h a n c e I J o r o f t h e
Ex c h e q u e r w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e r e c e n t l y
a g r e e d h i g h l y i n d e b t e d p o o r c o u n t r i e s i n i t i a t i v e ; a n d i f h e
w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 1 3 29 J
Mr s .
.
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t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r Ne w h a m , No r t h - Ea s t (Mr . T i m m s )
o n 1 4 Oc t o b e r , Of f i c i a l Re p o r t , c o l u m n s 7 0 5- 7 0 6 .
D EF ENC E
Nu c l e a r W e a p o n s
Mr . L l e w Sm i t h : T o a s k t h e
Se c r e t a r y o f St a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e r e p o r t o f
t h e C a n b e r r a C o m m i s s i o n o n t h e e l i m i n a t i o n o f n u c l e a r
w e a p o n s . [ 29 3 1 ]
Mr . So a m e s : W e h a v e n o t e d t h e c o n c l u s i o n s o f t h e
C a n b e r r a C o m m i s s i o n , W e r e m a i n c o m m i t t e d t o t h e
p u r s u i t o f n e g o t i a t i o n s i n g o o d f a i t h o n e f f e c t i v e m e a s u r e s
r e l a t i n g : t o n u c l e a r d i s a r m a m e n t , a s s e t o u t i n a r t i c l e VI o f
t h e ; u c l e a r n o n - p r o l i f e r a t i o n t r e a t y . Bu t n u c l e a r
d i s a r m a m e n t c a n n o t r e a l i s t i c a l l y b e p u r s u e d
i n d e p e n d e n t l y o f t h e b r o a d e r s e c u r i t y c o n t e x t . W e a n d
NA T O c o n t i n u e t o j u d g e t h a t n u c l e a r d e t e r r e n c e p l a y s a n
e s s e n t i a l r o l e i n m a i n t a i n i n g p e a c e a n d s t a b i l i t y i n Eu r o p e .
U n i d e n t i f i e d
F l y i n g Ob j e c t s
Mr . Re d m o n d : T o a s k t h e Se c r e t a r y o f St a t e f o r
D e f e n c e i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e c i r c u m s t a n c e s
o f t h e t w o o c c a s i o n s r e f e r r e d t o i n h i s a n s w e r o f 24
J u l y .
Of f i c i a l Re p o r t . c o l u m n 4 24 . w h e n RA P a i r c r a f t w e r e
s c r a m b l e d o r d i v e r t e d f r o m t a s k t o i n v e s t i g a t e
u n c o r r e l a t e d r a d a r t a r g e t s ; i f t h e o b j e c t s w e r e i d e n t i f i e d ;
1 3 C W 1 3 . P A GU I J
i f i t w a s j u d g e d t h a t b r e a c h e s o f U n i t e d K i n g d o m a i r s p a c e
h a d o c c u r r e d ; a n d i f h e w i l l l i s t a l l s i m i l a r i n c i d e n t s w h i c h
h a v e o c c u r r e d s i n c e 1 9 7 9 .
[ 29 3 2J
Mr . So a m e s : T h e t a r g e t s w e r e i d e n t i f i e d a s Ru s s i a n
m a r i t i m e p a t r o l a i r c r a f t a n d w e r e i n t h e n o r t h e r n
p o r t i o n
o f t h e U K a i r d e f e n c e r e g i o n . T h e y d i d n o t p e n e t r a t e U K
a i r s p a c e . I n f o r m a t i o n c o v e r i n g t h e p e r i o d f r o m 1 9 7 9 i s
n o t h e l d i n a r e a d i l y a v a i l a b l e f o r m a n d c o u l d b e p r o v i d e d
o n l y a t d i s p r o p o r t i o n a t e c o s t a n d e f f o r t .
Mr . Re d m o n d : T o a s k t h e
D e f e n c e w h e n U n i t e d K i n g d o m m i l i t a r y p e r s o n n e l w e r e
b r i e f e d a b o u t t h e s c r a m b l i n g o f Be l g i a n F - 1 6 a i r c r a f t o n
3 0 a n d 3 1 Ma r c h 1 9 9 0 ; w h e n t h e u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
o b j e c t c o n c e r n e d w a s d e t e c t e d o n U n i t e d K i n g d o m r a d a r
s y s t e m s ; a n d i f RA P a i r c r a f t w e r e s c r a m b l e d .
[ 3 1 8 5]
Mr . So a m e s : . T h e Be l g i a n a u t h o r i t i e s d i d n o t
n o t i f y
a d j a c e n t c o u n t r i e s b e c a u s e n o t h r e a t w a s p e r c e i v e d . T h e r e
i s n o e v i d e n c e o f r a d a r c o n t a c t s w i t h i n t h e U K a i r
d e f e n c e s y s t e m .
Ra d i a t i o n
Mr . Re d m o n d : T o a s k t h e
D e f e n c e i f t h e r a d i a t i o n r e a d i n g s , r e p o r t e d t o h i s
D e p a r t m e n t b y L i e u t e n a n t C o l o n e l C h a r l e s H a l t o n
1 3
J a n u a r y 1 9 8 1 . w e r e j u d g e d t o h a v e
p o s e d a n y t h r e a t
t o L i e u t e n a n t C o l o n e l H a l t a n d h i s t e a m ; w h o a s s e s s e d
t h e r e a d i n g s ; h o w t h e r a d i a t i o n c o m p a r e d w i t h
b a c k g r o u n d r a d i a t i o n i n t h e a r e a ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e
a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 29 3 4 J
Mr . So a m e s : T h e r e i s n o r e c o r d o f a n y o f f i c i a l
a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r a d i a t i o n r e a d i n g s r e p o r t e d b y
L i e u t e n a n t C o l o n e l H a l t .
I I I W r i t t e n A n s w e r s j 2 NOVEMBER 1 9 9 6 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s
The P r i m e Mi n i s t e r : Thi s m o r n i n g , I ha d m e e t i n g s
w i t h m i n i s t e r i a l c o l l e a g u e s a n d o t he r s . I n a d d i t i o n t o
m y
d u t i e s i n t he H o u s e , I s ha l l b e ha v i n g f u r t he r m e e t i n g s
l a t e r t o d a y.
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Mr . P a r r y: To a s k t he P r i m e Mi n i s t e r w ha t r e c e n t
r e p r e s e n t a t i o n s H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t ha v e m a d e t o
t he G o v e r n m e n t o f Bu r m a r e g a r d i n g a b u s e s o f hu m a n
l i g ht s ; a n d i f he w i H m a k e a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 3 1 7 8 ]
The P r i m e Mi n i s t e r : W e ha v e r e c e n t l y i s s u e d s e v e r a l
s t a t e m e n t s a b o u t v i o l a t i o n s o f hu m a n r i g ht s i n Bu r m a , a n d
d i d s o a g a i n ye s t e r d a y.
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o u r g r a v e c o n c e r n a t r e c e n t e v e n t s i n Bu r m a o n s e v e r a l
o c c a s i o n s .
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r a i s e d t he s e c o n c e r n s a t m e e t i n g s w i t h t he Bu r m e s e
F o r e i g n Mi n i s t e r o n 2 2 J u l y a n d 2 6 S e p t e m b e r .
La n d Mi n e s
Mr . P a r r y: To a s k t he P r i m e Mi n i s t e r w ha t
r e p r e s e n t a t i o n s he ha s r e c e i v e d f r o m UNI CEF c o n c e r n i n g
l a n d m i n e s i n
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( b ) Tha i l a n d ; a n d i f he
w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 3 1 7 5 ]
The P r i m e Mi n i s t e r : A s f a r a s I a m a w a r e , n o n e .
Mr . P a r r y: To a s k t he P r i m e Mi n i s t e r w ha t a s s i s t a n c e
( a ) H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t a n d
( b ) n o n - g o v e r n m e n t a l
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i f he w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 3 1 7 6 ]
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G o v e r n m e n t ha v e c o m m i t t e d o v e r f 5 . l m i l l i o n f o r
hu m a n i t a r i a n m i n e c J e a r a n c e a c t i v i t i e s i n Ca m b o d i a ,
; ( 5 4 3 , 0 0 0 i n La o s a n d ; ( 5 , 0 0 0 i n Tha i l a n d , c o n c e n t r a t i n g
o n s p e c i f i c c l e a r a n c e
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o r g a n i s a t i o n s c o m m i t m e n t s t o m i n e c l e a r a n c e i n
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De f e n c e
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w ha t f a c t o r s u n d e r l a y hi s De p a r t m e n t s
d e c i s i o n t ha t t he r e p 0 l 1 e d s i g ht i n g s o f u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l yi n g
o b j e c t s o n 5 No v e m b e r 1 9 9 0 a n d 3 1 Ma r c h 1 9 9 3 w e r e
n o t o f d e f e n c e s i g n i f i c a n c e ;
[ 2 8 9 8 ]
( 2 ) f o r w ha t r e a s o n s hi s De p a r t m e n t a s s e s s e d t he s i g ht i n g s o f a n
u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l yi n g o b j e c t o v e r RA F S ha w b u r y, r e f e n e d t o i n hi s
a n s w e r o f 2 4
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d e f e n c e
s i g n i f i c a n c e .
[ 2 9 2 8 ]
Mr . S o a m e s : I r e f e r t he ho n . Me m b e r t o t he a n s w e r t ha t
I g a v e hi m o n 8 J u l y 1 9 9 6 ,
Of f i c i a l Re p o r t , c o l u m n 2 6 .
5 6 CW J 4 - P A G I I 6
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Mr . Ca m p b e l l - S a v o u r s : To a s k
f o r De f e n c e i f s u p p l i e s o f v a c c i n e
t he Che m i c a l a n d Bi o l o g i c a l De f e n c e Es
u s e d i n c i r c u m s t a n c e s r e l a t i n g t o t he G u l f w a r .
Mr . S o a m e s : Thi s i s a m a t t e r f o r t he c hi e f e x e c u t i v e
o f t he Che m i c a l a n d Bi o l o g i c a l De f e n c e Es t a b l i s hm e n t . I
ha v e a s k e d t he c hi e f e x e c u t i v e t o w r i t e t o t he ho n .
Me m b e r .
Le t t e r f r o m J o hn Chi s ho l m t o Mr . Da l e Ca m p b e l l -
S a v o u r s , d a t e d 1 2 No v e m b e r 1 9 9 6 :
r ha v e b e e n a s k e d t o
r e p l y t o yo u r P a r l i a m e n t a r y Q u e s t i o n a b o u t
w he t he r t he Va c c i n e l OH 0 3 A s u p p l i e d t o t he Che m i c a l a n d
Bi o l o g i c a l De f e n c e Es t a b l i s hm e n t w e r e u s e d i n c i r c u m s t a n c e s
r e l a t i n g t o t he G u l f W a r . r ha v e b e e n a s k e d t o
r e p l y s i n c e The
Che m i c a l a n d Bi o l o g i c a l De f e n c e Es t a b l i s hm e n t
( CBD) i s n o w p a r t
o f t he De f e n c e Ev a l u a t i o n a n d Re s e a r c h
A g e n c y o f w hi c h I a m
Chi e f Ex e c u t i v e .
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p o l i c y t o p r o v i d e d e t a i l s o f t he p a r t i c u l a r
v a c c i n e s r e q u i r e d f o r t he r e s e a r c h
p r o g r a m m e a t CBD P o r t o n Do w n .
1 a m s o r r y I c o u l d n o t b e m o r e he l p f u l .
Mr . Ca m p b e U- S a v o u r s : To a s k t he S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r De f e n c e
( I )
o n w ha t d a t e v a c c i n e 1 0 H 0 3 A w a s
r e c e i v e d
b y Un i t e d Ki n g d o m m i l i t a r y p e r s o n n e l i n t he
g u l f ;
[ 1 6 7 5 ]
( 2 ) i f n a m e d p a t i e n t r e q u i r e m e n t s a s r e q u i r e d
b y t he
m a n u f a c t u r e r w e r e u s e d i n . t he c a s e o f v a c c i n e n u m b e r
l OH 0 3 A w hi l e u s e d i n c i r c u m s t a n c e s r e l a t i n g t o t he G u l f
w a r ;
[ 1 6 7 3 )
( 3 ) o n w ha t d a t e H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t p u r c ha s e d
f r o m t he Mi l e s Dr u g Co m p a n y, Mi l e s P ha r m a c e u t i c a l s o r
Ba ye r UK v a c c i n e I OH 0 3 A ; a n d w hi c h w a s u s e d i n t he
G u l f w a r ;
[ 1 6 7 2 )
( 4 ) ho w m a n y Br i t i s h A e r o s p a c e p e r s o n n e l
( a ) d i d a n d
( b ) d i d n o t r e c e i v e d o s e s o f v a c c i n e l OH 0 3 A d u r i n g t he
c o u r s e o f t he G u l f w a r ;
[ 1 6 7 1 ]
( 5 ) i f he w i l I m a k e a s t a t e m e n t o n t he u s e o f v a c c i n e
l OH 0 3 A d u r i n g t he c o u r s e o f t he G u l f w a r . [ 1 6 7 0 )
Mr . S o a m e s : A t p r e s e n t , d e t a i l s r e l a t i n g t o b i o l o g i c a l
w a r f a r e m e d i c a l c o u n t e r m e a s u r e s r e m a i n " t l a s s i f i e d f o r
o p e r a t i o n a l r e a s o n s .
Mr . Ca m p b e U- S a v o u r s : To a s k t he S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r De f e n c e a t w ha t t i m e o n t he 2 0 a n d 2 1 J a n u a r y 1 9 9 1
Un i t e d Ki n g d o m p e r s o n n e l w e r e b r o u g ht i n t o c o n t a c t w i t h
c he m i c a l o r b i o l o g i c a l a g e n t s n e a r Dha hr a n .
[ 1 6 7 7 ]
Mr . S o a m e s : No c he m i c a l o r b i o l o g i c a l a g e n t s w e r e
d e t e c t e d a t Dha hr a n o n 2 0 a n d 2 1 J a n u a r y 1 9 9 1 .
Mr . Ca m p b e U. S a v o u r s : To a s k t he S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r De f e n c e a t w ha t t i m e o n t he 2 0 a n d 2 1 J a n u a r y 1 9 9 2
c he m i c a l a g e n t m o n i t o r s i n d i c a t e d s a r i n i n t he a i r i n t he
v i c i n i t y o f Un i t e d Ki n g d o m p e r s o n n e l a t Dha hr a n . [ 1 6 7 6 ]
Mr . S o a m e s : The r e i s n o e v i d e n c e o f s a r i n b e i n g
d e t e c t e d a t Dha hr a n o n 2 0 a n d 2 1 J a n u a r y 1 9 9 1 .
G u r k ha Tr o o p s
Mr . F a t c he t t : To a s k t he S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n c e ho w m a n y G u r k ha t r o o p s w i l l b e s t a t i o n e d i n
Br i t a i n a s a r e s u l t o f t he ha n d o v e r o f H o n g Ko n g ; w he r e
W r i t t e n A n s w e r s 1 1 NOVEMBER 1 9 9 6 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s
A l l p e r s o n s I L Q D e g r e e o r o t h e r
A
l e v e l a n d e q u i v a l e n t T r a d e GCSE o r Ot h e r
u n e m p l o ) e d o f h i g h e r e d u c a t i o n ( e x c l u d i n g t r a d e a p p r e n t i c e s h i p e q u i v a l e n t
w o r k i n g a g e
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w i t h h i g h e s t
q u a l i f i c a t i o n
U n i t e d I Gn g d o m 2 , 3 4 4
1 1 . 6 1 2 . 3 1 0 . 6 1 8 . 1 2 0 . 0 2 7 . 4
Gr e a t Br i t a i n 2 , 2 7 4
1 1 . 7 1 2 . 3 1 0 . 4 1 8 . 2 2 0 . 4 2 7 . 0
En g l a n d 1 . 9 4 2
1 1 . 8 1 2 . 2 9 . 7 1 8 . 1 2 0 . 8 2 7 . 4
So u t h Ea s t 7 4 2 1 4 . 1 1 2 . 8 8 . 7 1 6 . 7 2 2 . 1 2 5 . 5
Gr e a t e r L o n d o n 3 7 9 1 5 . 6 1 1 . 2 7 . 1 1 5 . 8 2 3 . 7 2 6 . 5
Re s t o f So u t h Ea s t 3 6 2 1 2 . 6 1 4 . 4 1 0 . 5 1 7 . 7 2 0 . 3 2 4 . 5
Ea s t A n g l i a 7 2
- - -
2 1 . 1 2 3 . 6 2 3 . 0
So u t h W e s t 1 6 9 1 2 . 7 1 4 . 9 1 0 . 1 2 2 . 1 1 8 . 4 2 2 . 0
W e s t Mi d l a n d s 2 1 9 9 . 0 1 2 . 1 6 . 6 1 6 . 9 1 9 . 5 3 5 . 9
Ea s t Mi d l a n d s 1 5 2 9 . 9 1 3 . 4 1 1 . 5 1 8 . 5 1 8 . 7 2 8 . 0
Y o r k s h i r e a n d 1 8 9 1 1 . 0 1 1 . 9 8 . 2 1 8 . 3 2 0 . 2 3 0 . 4
H u m b e r s i d e
No r t h w e s t 2 4 8 1 1 . 9 9 . 4 1 0 . 7 1 9 . 9 2 0 . 0 2 8 . 2
No r t h 1 5 1 7 . 1 1 1 . 3 1 6 . 5 1 6 . 8 2 2 . 1 2 6 . 3
W a l e s 1 1 4 9 . 3 9 . 7 1 0 . 8 1 9 . 2 2 0 . 2 3 0 . 8
Sc o t l a n d 2 1 8 1 2 . 0 1 4 . 6 1 6 . 0 1 9 . 1 1 6 . 6 2 1 . 6
No r t h e r n I r e l a n d 6 9
,
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No t e s :
W o r k i n g
a g e i s m e n a g e d 1 6 - 6 4 a n d w o m e n a g e d 1 6 - 5 9 . I n c l u d e s t h o s e w h o d i d n o t a n s w e r , b u t p e r c e n t a g e s a r e b a s e d o n t o t a l s
e x c l u d i n g t h e m .
1 Sa m p l e s i z e t o o s m a l l f o r r e l i a b l e e s t i m a t e .
So u r c e :
L a b o u r F o r c e Su r v e y ( w i n t e r 1 9 9 5 - 9 6 ) , Of f i c e f o r Na t i o n a l St a t i s t i c s .
H i g h l y I n d e b t e d P o o r Co u n t r i e s I n i t i a t i v e
Mr . Bi l l Mi c h i e : T o a s k t h e Ch a n c e l l o r o f t h e
Ex c h e q u e r w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e r e c e n t l y
a g r e e d h i g h l y
i n d e b t e d p o o r c o u n t r i e s i n i t i a t i v e ; a n d i f h e
w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 1 3 2 9 J
Mr s . A n g e l a K n i g h t : I r e f e r t o t h e a n s w e r I g a v e t o
t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r Ne w h a m , No r t h - Ea s t ( Mr . T i m m s )
o n 1 4 Oc t o b e r , Of f i c i a l Re p o r t , c o l u m n s 7 0 5 - 7 0 6 .
D EF ENCE
Mr . L l e w Sm i t h : T o a s k t h e Se c r e t a r y o f St a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e r e p o r t o f
t h e Ca n b e r r a Co m m i s s i o n o n t h e e l i m i n a t i o n o f n u c l e a r
w e a p o n s . [ 2 9 3 1 ]
Mr . So a m e s : W e h a v e n o t e d t h e c o n c l u s i o n s o f t h e
Ca n b e r r a Co m m i s s i o n . W e r e m a i n c o m m i t t e d t o t h e
p u r s u i t o f n e g o t i a t i o n s i n g o o d f a i t h o n e f f e c t i v e m e a s u r e s
r e l a t i n g t o n u c l e a r d i s a r m a m e n t , a s s e t o u t i n a r t i c l e VI o f
t h e n u c l e a r n o n - p r o l i f e r a t i o n t r e a t y . Bu t n u c l e a r
d i s a r m a m e n t c a n n o t r e a l i s t i c a l l y b e p u r s u e d
i n d e p e n d e n t l y o f t h e b r o a d e r s e c u r i t y c o n t e x t . W e a n d
NA T O c o n t i n u e t o j u d g e
t h a t n u c l e a r d e t e r r e n c e p l a y s a n
e s s e n t i a l r o l e i n m a i n t a i n i n g p e a c e a n d s t a b i l i t y i n Eu r o p e .
; ! f (
I ~ i \ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ g t P J ~
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D e f e n c e i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e c i r c u m s t a n c e s
o f t h e t w o o c c a s i o n s r e f e r r e d t o i n h i s a n s w e r o f 2 4 J u l y ,
Of f i c i a l Re p o r t , c o l u m n 4 2 4 , w h e n RA P a i r c r a f t w e r e
s c r a m b l e d o r d i v e r t e d f r o m t a s k t o i n v e s t i g a t e
u n c o r r e l a t e d r a d a r t a r g e t s ; i f t h e o b j e c t s w e r e i d e n t i f i e d ;
! 3 CW ! 3 - P A GI / J 3
i f i t w a s j u d g e d t h a t b r e a c h e s o f U n i t e d K i n g d o m a i r s p a c e
h a d o c c u r r e d ; a n d i f h e w i l l l i s t a l l s i m i l a r i n c i d e n t s w h i c h
h a v e o c c u r r e d s i n c e 1 9 7 9 . [ 2 9 3 2 J
Mr . So a m e s : T h e t a r g e t s w e r e i d e n t i f i e d a s Ru s s i a n
m a r i t i m e p a t r o l a i r c r a f t a n d w e r e i n t h e n o r t h e r n p o r t i o n
o f t h e U K a i r d e f e n c e r e g i o n . T h e y d i d n o t p e n e t r a t e U K
a i r s p a c e . I n f o r m a t i o n c o v e r i n g t h e p e r i o d f r o m 1 9 7 9 i s
n o t h e l d i n a r e a d i l y a v a i l a b l e f o r m a n d c o u l d b e p r o v i d e d
o n l y a t d i s p r o p o r t i o n a t e c o s t a n d e f f o r t .
D e f e n c e w h e n U n i t e d K i n g d o m
m i l i t a r y p e r s o n n e l w e r e
b r i e f e d a b o u t t h e s c r a m b l i n g o f Be l g i a n F - 1 6 a i r c r a f t o n
3 0 a n d 3 1 Ma r c h 1 9 9 0 ; w h e n t h e u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e c t c o n c e m e d w a s d e t e c t e d o n U n i t e d K i n g d o m r a d a r
s y s t e m s ; a n d i f RA F a i r c r a f t w e r e s c r a m b l e d . [ 3 1 8 5 ]
Mr . So a m e s : T h e Be l g i a n a u t h o r i t i e s d i d n o t n o t i f y
a d j a c e n t c o u n t r i e s b e c a u s e n o t h r e a t w a s p e r c e i v e d . T h e r e
i s n o e v i d e n c e o f r a d a r c o n t a c t s w i t h i n t h e U K a i r
d e f e n c e s y s t e m .
. . Ra d i a t i Q n
p e f e n c e i f t h e r a d i a t i o n r e a d i n g s , r e p o r t e d t o h i s
D e p a r t m e n t b y L i e u t e n a n t Co l o n e l Ch a r l e s H a l t o n
1 3
J a n u a r y 1 9 8 1 , w e r e j u d g e d t o h a v e p o s e d a n y t h r e a t
t o L i e u t e n a n t Co l o n e l H a l t a n d h i s t e a m ; w h o a s s e s s e d
t h e r e a d i n g s ; h o w t h e r a d i a t i o n c o m p a r e d w i t h
b a c k g r o u n d r a d i a t i o n i n t h e a r e a ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e
a s t a t e m e n t . [ 2 9 3 4 J
Mr . So a m e s : T h e r e i s n o r e c o r d o f a n y o f f i c i a l
a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r a d i a t i o n r e a d i n g s r e p o r t e d b y
L i e u t e n a n t Co l o n e l H a l t .
LOOSE MINUTE
f
D/DAO/1/13
n
Nov 96
PSO/ACAS
Copy
to:
PS/CAS
DPR
DAO
Sec (AS)2a1
REPORTED UFO SIGHTING OFF BOSTON
-
5 OCT 96
Referen ce:
A. D/DAO/1/!r dated 1 Nov 96.
1. You may kn ow from the attached press report that the con ten t
of Mr Martin Redmon ds letter to the SofS on the subject topic has
reached the public domain .
2. I reported at Referen ce that we were takin g a closer look at
this in ciden t in view of criticism of the RAFs AD system. That
work is still un derway but will be completed later in the week.
Some primary witn esses have been un con tactable. On the eviden ce
so far, we do n ot an ticipate extraordin ary con clusion s.
3. As in terim backgroun d:
a. There was on ly on e un solicited observer, others havin g
reported lights on en quiry
from the Yarmouth Coastguard.
b. The video has been in the MOD on ly sin ce 6 Nov, havin g
been requested from the police where it had been lodged with
the Head of Media Services, Lin coJn shire Police Services (it
shows a sin gle bright pin poin t light, the an gle of which may
be measured again st a buildin g in the foregroun d).
c. There was n o radar correlated con tact, the reportin g
system havin g ten tatively iden tified, when the visual
sightin g was in accurately reported, a station ary con tact over
Boston showin g on the Claxby remote head, but subsequen tly
discoun ted as a groun d return probably the Boston " stump" .
d. Reported aircraft sightin gs may be discoun ted, referrin g
to en quiries made to a Delta airlin es an d UK Air aircraft in
Blue On e. Neither observed an ythin g, although the Delta
aircraft made referen ce to flares which he had seen some 20
min utes earlier an d much to the W est.
4. Much of the reported material, an d its in terpretation , would
W r i t t e n A n s W e r s 5 NOVEMBER 1 9 9 6 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s
DEFENCE
Lan d Mi n e s
Mr . Co u s i n s : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e f o r De f e n c e
w h at i s t h e ( a) maxi mu m t i me d l i f e an d
( b ) s e l f - de s t r u c t
r e l i ab i l i t y o f
( i ) ar e a de n i al an d ( i i ) l an d mi n e s y s t e ms
p r e s e n t l y i n ac t i v e s e r v i c e w i t h Br i t i s h f o r c e s . [ 3 9 1 J
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : Th e s y s t e ms c o n c e r n e d ar e t h e HB876
s u b - mu n i t i o n o f t h e J P 2 3 3 ar e a de n i al w e ap o n an d t h e
MLRS A T2 s c at t e r ab l e mi n e . S e l f - de s t r u c t i o n w i l l
n o r mal l y t ak e p l ac e i n a mat t e r o f h o u r s f o r t h e HB876 ;
i t s s e l f - de s t r u c t r e l i ab i l i t y i s c u r r e n t l y b e i n g as s e s s e d. Th e
A T2 mi n e s e l f - de s t r u c t s w i t h i n day s an d h as a r e l i ab i l i t y
w h i c h h as b e e n e v al u at e d as o v e r 9 9 p e r c e n t .
A ddi t i o n al l y , i n e ac h c as e mi n e de t o n at i o n r e l i e s o n a
s h o r t - t i f e d b at t e r y , an d an y mi n e t h at f ai l s t o s e l f - de s t r u c t
w i l l de ac t i v at e w i t h i n a f u r t h e r s h o r t p e r i o d. P r e c i s e
s e l f - de s t r u c t i o n t i mi n g s f o r b o t h mi n e s ar e c l as s i f i e d.
Th e r e i s n o o t h e r ar e a de n i al w e ap o n i n s e r v i c e w i t h
t h e Br i t i s h ar me d f o r c e s , an d n o o t h e r l an d mi n e s y s t e m
i n s e r v i c e w h i c h h as a maxi mu m t i me d l i f e o r a
s e l f - de s t r u c t c ap ab i l i t y .
Mr . Re dmo n d: To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e f o r
De f e n c e i f h e w i l Ll i s t t h e r e p o r t s o f e n c o u n t e r s
b y Ro y al
A i r Fo r c e p i l o t s w i t h u n i de n t i f i e d
f l y i n g c r af t s i n c e 1 9 6 6
w h i c h h av e n o t b e e n r e l e as e d t o t h e p u b l i c ; o n w h at
g r o u n ds t h e y h av e b e e n r e t ai n e d; an d i f h e w i l l mak e a
s t at e me n t .
[ 2 2 0 1 ]
l \ f r . S o ame s : Th e i n f o r mat i o n c o u l d b e p r o v i de d o n l y
at di s p r o p o r t i o n at e c o s t .
Mr . Re dmo n d: To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e f o r
De f e n c e w h at i s t h e Ro y al A i r Fo r c e s
p r ac t i c e as r e g ar ds
i n v e s t i g at i n g s i g h t i n g s o f u n i de n t i f i e d f l y i n g c r af t w h i c h
c o r r e l at e w i t h r adar i n f o r mat i o n ; i f t h e r e i s a r e q u i r e me n t
t o i n v e s t i g at e s u c h p h e n o me n a
b y s c r amb l i n g ai r c r af t ; an d
i f h e w i l l mak e a s t at e me n t .
[ 2 2 0 0 ]
Mr . S o ame s : U n i de n t i f i e d c o n t ac t s p e n e t r at i n g U K
ai r s p ac e o r t h e U K ai r de f e n c e r e g i o n ar e i de n t i f i e d
b y al l
av ai l ab l e me an s , i n c l u di n g i n t e r c e p t i o n .
G u l f W ar Ve t e r an s
Mr . Dav i d Cl ar k : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e f o r
De f e n c e i f h e w i l l l i s t t h e p e o p l e w h o ar e c u r r e n t l y
e mp l o y e d o n h i s De p ar t me n t s G u l f v e t e r an s me di c al
as s e s s me n t p r o g r amme . [ 1 6 87J
Mr . S o ame s : Th e p e r s o n n e l c u r r e n t l y e mp l o y e d b y my
De p ar t me n t s G u l f v e t e r an s me di c al as s e s s me n t
p r o g r amme ar e :
Mi l i t ar y :
2 c o n s u l t an t p h y s i c i an s ( 1 g r o u p c ap t ai n RA P an d 1 J e u t e n an t
c o l o n e l RA MC)
1 s t at e r e g i s t e r e d n u r s e ( s q u adr o n l e ade r RA P )
1 me di c al admi n i s t r at o r ( f l i g h t s e r g e an t RA P )
Ci v i l i an :
1 p e r s o n al s e c r e t ar y
1 admi n i s t r at i v e o f f i c e r
2 admi n i s t r at i v e as s i s t an t s
1 t y p i s t
2 0 8 CW l ( ) - P A G I I 2
Mar r i e d Q u ar t e r s Es t at e
Mr . Har r y G r e e n w ay : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f
S t at e
f o r De f e n c e i f h e w i l l mak e a s t at e me n t o n t h e s al e
o f
t h e
mar r i e d q u ar t e r s e s t at e t o A n n i n g t o n Ho me s .
[ 2 75 0 J
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : Co n t r ac t s f o r t h e s al e w e r e
e xc h an g e d
o n 2 4 S e p t e mb e r . Th e t r an s ac t i o n w as c o mp l e t e d
t o day .
Me n w i t h Hi l l RA F S t at i o n
Mr . Madde n : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e
f o r
De f e n c e w h at r i g h t o f ac c e s s t h e l o c al He al t h an d
S af e t y
Exe c u t i v e h as t o Me n w i t h Hi l l s t at i o n ; i f i t mak e s
r e g u l ar
h e al t h an d s af e t y c h e c k s ; an d h o w man y t i me s i t h as
made
o f f i c i al v i s i t s t o t h e Me n w i t h Hi l l s t at i o n .
[ 2 1 5 3 ]
Mr . S o ame s : Th e He al t h an d S af e t y Exe c u t i v e h as t h e
s ame r i g h t o f ac c e s s t o RA P Me n w i t h Hi l l as at an y o t h e r
Mo D e s t ab l i s h me n t . Th e He al t h an d S af e t y Exe c u t i v e
h av e v i s i t e d t h e s i t e o n c e i n J u n e 1 9 9 6 .
Mr . Madde n : To as k t h e
S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e f o r
De f e n c e w h at s y s t e ms ar e i n p l ac e t o mo n i t o r l e v e l s o f
n o n - i o n i s i n g e l e c t r o - mag n e t i c r adi at i o n at Me n w i t h Hi l l
s t at i o n ; w h o i s r e s p o n s i b l e f o r s u c h mo n i t o r i n g ; i f t h e i r
r e p o r t s ar e made av ai l ab l e t o t h e p u b l i c ; an d w h at
p r e c au t i o n s ar e b e i n g t ak e n t o p r o t e c t t h e h e al t h an d
s af e t y o f ( a) t h e b as e p o p u l at i o n , ( b ) t h e l o c al
c o mmu n i t y
an d
( e ) t h e l o c al e n v i r o n me n t f r o m t h e e f f e c t s o f
n o n - i o n i s i n g e l e c t r o - mag n e t i c r adi at i o n e mi t t e d
b y
o p e r at i o n s at Me n w i t h Hi J I s t at i o n .
[ 2 1 5 7]
Mr . S o ame s : Th e r e i s n o s p e c i f i c l e g al r e q u i r e me n t t o
mo n i t o r n o n - i o n i s i n g e l e c t r o - mag n e t i c r adi at i o n . Ho w e v e r
RA P Me n w i t h Hi l l o b s e r v e s an d o p e r at e s i n ac c o r dan c e
w i t h t h e Nat i o n al Radi o l o g i c al P r o t e c t i o n Bo ar d
g u i de l i n e s an d t h e He al t h an d S af e t y at W o r k
Re g u l at i o n s 1 9 9 2 .
Mr . Madde n : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e f o r De f e n c e
i f h e w i l l c o mmi s s i o n a r e p o r t o n t h e s t at e o f t h e
e n v i r o n me n t at Me n w i t h Hi l l s t at i o n , s i mi l ar t o t h e i n t e r n al
U S e n v i r o n me n t al c o mp l i an c e s t at u s s u r v e y o f 1 9 9 2 ; o n
w h at o c c as i o n s h i s De p ar t me n t h as c o mmi s s i o n e d s i mi l ar
r e p o r t s i n t h e p as t ; an d i f h e w i l l c o mmi s s i o n an d p u b l i s h
s u c h r e p o r t s o n a r e g u l ar b as i s .
[ 2 1 5 8J
Mr . S o ame s : No . Th e c o mmi s s i o n i n g o f c o mp l i an c e
s t at u s s u r v e y s i s t h e s o l e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y o f t h e U S
au t h o r i t i e s . Th e s e s u r v e y s ar e c ar r i e d o u t t o U S c r i t e r i a
an d I am s at i s f i e d t h at t h e s t an dar ds ap p l i e d f u l l y me e t
t h o s e ap p l i c ab l e i n t h e U K. Th e r e f o r e
my De p ar t me n t h as
n o t c o mmi s s i o n e d an y s i mi l ar r e p o r t s an d do e s n o t i n t e n d
t o do s o .
U n i t e d S t at e s Vi s i t i n g Fo r c e s
Mr . Madde n : To as k t h e
De f e n c e w h i c h Br i t i s h b as e s ar e o c c u p i e d
b y
U n i t e d
S t at e s v i s i t i n g f o r c e s ; h o w man y U n i t e d S t at e s p e r s o n n e l
ar e s t at i o n e d at e ac h ; f o r w h at r e as o n s s i t e s u s e d b y
U n i t e d S t at e s v i s i t i n g f o r c e s ar e de s i g n at e d as RA P
s t at i o n s ; w h e n an d
b y w h o m t h i s de c i s i o n w as t ak e n ; w h at
p ar l i ame n t ar y s c r u t i n y o f t h i s de c i s i o n h as t ak e n p l ac e ;
an d i f h e w i l l mak e a s t at e me n t . [ 2 1 5 5 ]
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DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 1 2 :00 ON THURSDAY 7
NOVEMBER 1 996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE NAME AND TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE DESK OFFICER
WHO DRAFTS THE ANSWER AND THE NAME AND TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE
GRADE SlONE STAR WHO APPROVES THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
MP S DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
1 1 1
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will make a
statement on the circumstances of the two occasions referred to in
his Answer of 2 4th July, Official Report, column 42 4, when RAF
aircraft were scrambled or diverted from task to investigate
uncorrelated radar targetsi if the objects were identifiedi if it
was judged that breaches of united Kingdom airspace had occurredi
and if he will list all similar incidents what have occurred since
1 97 9. [2 932 ]
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REFERENCE:2344H
PQ TYPE:Ordinary written
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:00 ON THURSDAY 7
NOVEMBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
141To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, pursuant to his
Answer of 24th July, Official Report, column 424, if he will
explain why reports of sightings of an unidentified flying object
over RAF Shawbury referred in his Answer are regarded as having no
defence significance. [2928]
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TYPE:Ordinary written
NOVEMBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
91TO
ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what factors underlay
his Departments decision that the reported sitings of
unidentified flying objects on 5th November 1990 and 31st March
1993 were not of defence significance. [2898]
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TYPE:Ordinary Written
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:00 ON FRIDAY 8
NOVEMBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
151TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, when united Kingdom
military personnel were briefed about the scrambling of Belgian
F.- 16 aircraft on 30th and 31st March 1990; when the unidentified
flying object concerned was detected on any united Kingdom radar
systems; and if RAF aircraft were scrambled. [318 5]
"
W r i t t e n A n s H : e r s
DEFENCE
, ~
P l u t o n i u m
l \ f r . L I e w S m i t h : To a s k t b e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D; f e n c e i f t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t h a v e s i n c e 1 9
r e u e s t e d t h e U n i t e d Ki n gd o m t o p r o v i d e r e a c t o r gr a d e
( ) 1 ~ t o n i u m f o r t h e p u r p o s e
o f c o n d u c t i n g a n u c J e a r t e s t
; x p l o s o n u n d e r t h e p r o v i s i o n s o f t h e U S -U K m u t u a l
d e f e n c e a gr e e m e n t o n a t o r r J c e n e r gy c o -o p e r a t i o n . [ 3 8 5 0 0 ]
M r . A r b u t h n o t : No s u c h r e q u e s t s h a v e b e e n m a d e
b y
r h e U n i t e d S t a t e s .
S m a l l B u s i n e s s e s
1 \ J r . Da v i d S h . a w : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D f e n c e i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e i m p a c t o f
, 1 )
h i s p a n c i e s a n d
( b )
t h e w o r k o f h i s De p a r t m e n t i n
s m a l 1 b u s i n e s s e s i n t h e l a s t 1 2 m o n t h s a s
t h e p r e v i o u s 1 2 m o n t h s ; a n d i f h e w m p u b J i s h
, n c p e r f o r m a n c e i n d i c a t o r s b v w h i c h h i s De p a r t m e n t
m o o i t o r s t h e i m p a c t a n d t h e . s t a t i s t i c a l r e s u l t s
o f s u c h
Dl o n i t o r i n g. [ 3 9 1 4 1 ]
~ \ I r ~ A r b u t h n o t : Th e G o ~ y e m m e n t
r e c o gn i s e t = c r u c l a l
Te t e ;
b y
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a d r n i n i s t r a t i v e a n d t a . x a t i o n b u r d e n s ; a n d \ i l l e r . ; ;
; D0 r o p r i a t e Dr o v i d e d i r e c t a s s i s t a n c e i n t h e f o r m o f
, .
a d \ ~ i c e a n d s u p p o r t a n d e a s i n g a c c e s s t o f i n a n c e .
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. : ; , ~ [ [ m e n t f o r s m a 1 1 b u s i n e s s e s a n d I a t t e n d o r ; . I D
; ~ r e s e n t ; ; ; d a t t h e DTI s r e gu l a r m e e t i n gs .
[ n e De f e n c e
S u p p le r s S e r v i c e a s s i s t s c o m p a n i e s .
s m a l l b u s i o e s s e s . i n m a k i n g c o n t a c t \ v i t h
CO I 1 Er a c t s b r a n c h e s . I t a l s o f u l " a n ge s f o r d e t 3 . i l s
" .
f l 1 a n y f o r t h c o I n i n g t e n d e r s t o b e p u b l i s h e d i n t h e
l v l 0 D Co n t r a c t s B u l l e t i n w h i c h i s a v a i l a b l e t o
n y i n t e r e s t e d
p a r t y o n s u b s c r i p t i o n . Th i s e n a b l e s s m a l l
~ > i De s " e s e i t h e r t o s e e k t o t e n d e r d i r e c t l y f o r s p e c i f i c
: ; q u i r c n -l e n t s o r , l TI O r e c O TI 1 i l l o n l y , t o b e CO Dl
u t > -c o n t r a c t o r s t o l a r ge r c o m p a n i e s .
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k f e n c e m o v e d t o t h e n e w p r o c u r e m e n t h e a d q u a r t e r s a t
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S e r v i c e i s i n c o n t a c t w i t h t h e B r i s t o l c h a m b e r
f c C r n m e r c e a n d DI Ts b u s i n e s s l i n k s , w h o s e S o u t h -w e s r
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b y u s .
r o u gh t h e b u s i n e s s l i n k s n e t w o r k .
. -\ 5 m u c h o f t h e a s s i s t a n u ; p r o v i d e d b y m y De p a r H n e n r
s m a l l b u s i n e s s e s t e n d s t o b e i n t h e S u b -c O I H r a c t o r
c w r , t i s n o t p o s s i b l e t o e s t a b l i s h s u i t a b l e p e r f o n n a n c e
l r a m e t e r s a n d t h e r e f o r e n o s t a t i s t i c s a r e a v a i l a b l e .
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r ~ s p n : ~ e h i s De p a r t m e n t m a d e L O t h e -.
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p o r t s u b i t t e d . c .
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4 24
r e l a t i n g t o e v e n t s i n R e n d l e s h a m f o r e s t i n De c e m b e r
1 9 8 0 ; w h a t i n t e r v i e w s w e r e h e l d ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t ;
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w h o a s s e s s e d t h a t t h e e v e n t s a r o u n d R A P
W o o d b r i d ge a n d f V - \ F B e n t w a t e r s i r t De c e m b e r 1 9 8 0 ,
w h i c h w e r e r e p o r t e d t o h i s De p a r t m e n t
b y L i e u t e n a n t
Co l o n e l Ch a r l e s H a l t w e r e o f n o d e f e n c e s i gn i f i c a n c e ;
o n w h a t e v i d e n c e t h e a s s e s s m e n t w a s m a d e ; w h a t
a n a l y s i s o f e v e n t s w a s c a r r i e d o u t ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e
a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 3 9 24 9 J
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b y t h e s t a f f i n
m y De p a r t m e n t r e s p o n s i b l e f o r a i r d e f e n c e m a t t e r s . S i n c e
t h e j u d gm e n t w a s t h a t i t c o n t a i n e d n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e
s i gn i f i c a . . 1 c e n o f u r t h e r a c t i o n w a s t a k e n .
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1 v 1 r . R e d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c f w : r y o f S t a t e f o r
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b e e n
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d i v e r t e d f r o m t a s k t o i n v e s t i ga t e
u n c o r r e I a t e d t a r ge t s p i c k e d u p o n r a d a r ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a . . 1 z e a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 3 9 21 8 ]
l v l r ~ S o a n 1 e s : I n t h e p a s t f i v e y e a r s R A . _ F a i r c r a f t h a v e
b e e n s c r a m b l e d o r d i v e n e d f r o m t a s k o n t \ v o o c c a s i o n s t o
i n t e r c e p t a n d i d e n t i f y u n c o r r e l a e d r a d a r t r a . . s e n t e r i n g
t h e l Tn i t e d Ki n gd o r n a i r d e f e n c e r e gi o n .
M r . R e d m o n d : To a S K t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
De f e n c e
( 1 )
w h a t i s h i s De p a r t m e n t s a s s e s s m e n t . ~ o f
i n c i d e n t t h a t o c c u r r e d o n 5 No v e m b e r 1 9 9 0 w h e n a
o f R A F To r n a d o a i r c r a f t f l y i n g o v e r t h e NO f l i " s e a
o v e r t a k e n a t h i gh s p e e d b y a . . 1 1 u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f 1 ; a n d i f
\ v i L l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ~
( 2)
i f h e w i l ! m a . . 1 z e a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l v i n g o b i e c t s i gh t i n g r e p o n e d t o h i s De p a r t m e n t b v
t h e .
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[ 3 9 24 6 J
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r e c o r d e d o n m e a n d w e r e e x a m i n e d
b y s t a f f r e s p o n s i b l e
f o r a i r d e f e n c e f l 1 a t t e r s .
l \ r o
f l r m c o n c l u s i o n s \ v e r e d r 3 . \ \ TI
a b o u t t h e n a t u r e o f l e p h e n o m e n a r e p o n e d b i l t t h e e \ ; e n t s
w r e n o t j u d ge d t o b e o f d e f e n c e s i gr J c a n c e .
1 \ 1 r . R e d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n c e \ v h a t a s s e s s m e n t h i s De p a r t m e n t m a d e o f t h e
p h o t o gr a p h o f a n u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f t a t Ca l v i n e o n 4 A u gu s t
1 9 9 0 ; w h o r e m o v e d i t f r o m a n o f f i c e i n s e c r e t a r i a t ( a i r
s t a f f ) 2a ; f o r \ v h a t r e a s o n s ; a n d i f h e \ v j J ] m a k e J .
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 3 9 24 3 ]
1 \ 1 r . S o a m e s : A n u m b e r o f n e ga t i v e s a s s o c i a t e d w I t h
t h e s i gh t i n g V i e r e e x a m i n e d
b y s t a f f r e s p o n s i b J e f o r a i r
d e f e n c e m a t t e r s . S i n c e i t w a s
j u d ge d t b a t I f -j e y c o n t a i n e d
n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e s i gn i f i c a n c e t h e n e ga t i v e s \ v e r e n o t
r e t a i n e d a n d w e h a v e n o r e c o r d o f a n y p h o t o gr a p h s h a v i n g
b e e n t a k e n f r o m t h e m .
P u b l k i t y
1 v 1 5 H o d ge : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r De f e n c e
w h a t i s b s De p a r t m e n t s b u d ge t i n 1 9 9 6 -9 7 f o r
c o n s u l t a n t s t o a s s i s t w i t h i n f o r m a t i o n ,
p u b l i c i t y , p r e s s a n d
m e d i a .
[ 3 9 3 5 3 J
.
: 2 5 " W r i t t e n A n s w e r s
.
T h i s h e l p f u l r e c o m m e n d a t i o n , w h i c h r e f l e c t s t h e l o c a l
o p i n i o n s t h a t h a v e b e e n v o i c e d o v e r m a n y m o n t h s
b y m y
h o n . F r i e n d s a n d o t h e r s , w i l l b e c o n s i d e r e d
b y
B a r n e t
h e a l t h a u t h o r i t y a t i t s n e x t m e e t i n g .
R . e a d C o d e s
j \ , ] . M o r g a n : T o a s k t h e S e c r e t 3 , f ) o f S t a t e f o r H e a l t h ,
p u r s u a n t t o h i s a n s w e r o f 1 J u l y, O f f i c i a l R e p o r t , c o l u m n
3 3 4 , i f h e w i l l
s p e c i f y
t h e o r g a n i s a t i o n o r p e r s o n C 3 . l - r yi n g
o u t t h e s t u d y o f b . 1 e l i c e n s i n g a r r a n g e m e n t s b e t w e e n
C o m p u t e r A i d e d M e d i c a l S ys t e m s p I c a n d t h e NH S ; i f
L h a t o r g a n i s a t i o n w a s c h o s e n
b y
c o m p e t i t i v e t e n d e r s ;
w h e n t . " I : 1 e s t u d y w a s s t z t r t e d ; w h e n h e e x p e c t e d i t t o b e
c o m p l e t e d ; a n d i f h e w i l l p l a c e a
c o p y
i n t h e L i b r a r y o f
t h e c o m p l e t e d r e p o r t . [ 3 5 7 6 8 J
I V I r . H o r a m : T h e r e v i e w o f c u r r e n t l i c e n s i n g a n d
s u p p o r t a r r a n g e m e n t s f o r R e a d c o d e s w i l l b e c a r r i e d o u t
b y
S i l i c o n B r i d g e R e s e a r c h . S i n c e i t w a s c h o s e n f o r i t s
p a r t i c u l a r s k i l l s a n d e x p e r i e n c e , a t a c o s t b e l o w t h e s i n g l e
t e n d e r l i m i t , t b e r e w a s n o c o m p e t i t i v e t e n d e r . T h e r e v i e w
s t a r t e d a n 4 J u l y 1 9 9 6 a n d i s e x p e c t e d t o b e c o m p l e t e d b y
t h e e n d o f O c t o b e r 1 9 9 6 . A r e p o r t o f i t s f i n d i n g s w i l l b e
p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y.
T r u s t ~ m d H e a h A u t h o r i t i e s ( D e b t s )
M r . M i l b u r n : T o a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
H e a l t h , p u r s u a n t t o h i s 2 . l l s w e r o f 2 3 M a y, O f f i c i a l
R e p o r t , c o l u m n 9 3 , i f h e w i l l s h o w t h e a 1 T l O u n t o f b a d
d e b t s a n d c l a i m s a b a n d o n e d f o r e a c h . h e a l t h a u t h o r i t y
i n e a c h r e g i o n b r o k e n d o w n
b y c a t e g o r y f o r ! : b e l a s t
t h r e e ye a r s . ( 3 3 0 9 7 ]
M r . H o r a m [ h o l d i n g a n s w e r 1 7 J u n e 1 9 9 6 ] : T h e
i n f o r m a t i o n w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y.
C h i l d A b u s e I n q u i r e s
l v I I " . Y i l l b u r n : T o a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r H e a l t h
w h a t w a s t h e t o t a l c o s t t o p u b l i c f u n d s o f
( a )
t h e
i n d e v e n d e n t r e v i e w o f r e s i d e n t i a l c a r e c o n d u c t e d
b y
L a d y \ - V a g n e r a n d
( b ) i t s r e p o r t , " R e s i d e n t i a l C a r e - A
P o s i t i v e C h o i c e " .
( 3 5 1 4 6 ]
: 1 1 1 1 . B O i < T I 1 J [ h o l d i n g a n s w e r 1 J u l y . ! 9 9 6 ] : T h e
i n f o r m a t i o n i s n o t a v a i l a b l e .
D EF ENC E
L a n d M i n e s
j \ " 1 r , , . C I v r yd : T o a s k t l 1 e S e c r e t a r j o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
h o w m a n y J P 2 3 3 m i n e s w e r e l e r t
b y
U n i t e d Ki n g d o m
f o r c e s a t b o m b d u m p . 1 . 1 1 3 i n B a . . 1 r a i n ? " f t e r 1 e G u l f w a r ;
a n d h o w m a n y o f t h e m a r e c u r r e n t l y o w n e d
b y t h e U n i t e d
Ki n g d o m G o v e m m e n t . [ 3 5 3 6 0 ]
l i r . S o a m e s : A l l T I
2 3 3 m u n i t i o n s i n B a h r a i n w e r e
r e t u m e d t o t h e U K a f t e r t h e G u l f w a r .
H a w k T r a i n e r C r : < , s h , P o r t u g a l
I v I r . G o r d o n P r e n t i c e : T o a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r D e f e n c e , p u r s u a n t t o h i s a n s w e r o f 1 8 J u n e ,
O f f i c
a l
R e p o r t , c o l u m n 4 1 6 , i n r e s p e c t o f t h e c r a s h o f a H a w k
t r a i n e r , w h e n t . l : \ e NA T O s t a n d a r d i s a t i o n a g r e e m e n t c a r n e
i n t o o p e r a t i o n . [ 3 5 6 9 1 ]
1 3 C W l 3 0 - P A G l I D
A Nf J ? ,
8 J U L Y 1 9 9 6 W r i t t e n
A n s w e r s 2 6
M r . S o a m e s : NA T O
s t a n d a r d i s a t i o n a g r e e m e n t 3 5 3 1
f I r s t c a m e i n t o o p e r a t i o n i n 1 9 6 4 .
O f f i c i a l S e c r e t s
( 1 V i l i t a r y A c c i d e n t s )
M r . J i m C t u m i n g h a m : T o a s k t . " 1 e
S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r D e f e n c e w h a t p r o p o s a l s h e h a s t o a l t e r t h e p r o v i s i o n s
c o n t a i n e d i n o f f i c i a J
.
s e c r e t s l e g i s l a t i o n i n r e l a t i o n t o
m i l i t a r y i n c i d e n t s r e s u l t i n g i n
( a ) i n j u r i e s a n d
( b ) f a t a l i t i e s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t [ 3 5 7 0 3 J
M r . . S o a m e s : T h e r e a r e n o p r o v i s i o n s i n o f f i c i a l s e c r e t s
l e g i s l a t i o n r e l a t i n g s p e c i f i c a l l y t o s u c h i n c i d e n t s . S e r v i c e
b o a r d o f
i n q u i r y r e p o r t s o n
m i l i t a r y i n c i d e n t s r e s u l t i n g i n
f a t a l i t i e s a r e r e l e a s e d t o t h e n e x t o f k i n o f d e c e a s e d
s e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l , o n
r e q u e s t , s u b j e c t t o ! : b e m i n i m u m o f
s e c u r i t y r e q u i r e m e n t s .
A r m e d F o r c e s
1 " l r . G a l b r a i t h : T o a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e . p u r s u a n t t o h i s a n s w e r t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r f o r
S o u t h S h i e l d s ( D r . C l a r k ) o f 1 6
M a y, O f f i c
a l R e p o r t ,
c o l u r n n 5 5 9 , i f h e w i l l b r e a k : d o w n t h e f i g u r e s f o r f u . 1 T l e d
f o r c e s
b y ( a ) ye a r a n d
( b ) s e r v i c e f o r e a c h ye a r s i n c e
1 9 9 1 .
.
[ 3 5 7 5 1 ]
M r . S o a m e s : T I l e s t r e n g 1 . h o f t h e R e g u l a r a n T I e d f o r c e s
b y s e r v i c e , o n 1 A p r i l r o r e a c h ye a r s i n c e 1 9 9 J v ;r a s a . s
f o l l o w s :
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1 9 9 1 I 9 9 2 1 9 9 3 1 9 9 4 1 9 9 5 1 9 9 6
- - - , . - - - - - - - - - - ~ - - -
R . " f I R . 1 v f
A n n y
R A P
6 2 , 1 0 0
1 5 2 , 4 0 0
8 6 , 0 0 0
6 2 , J o o
1 5 4 , 6 0 0
8 8 , 4 0 0
5 4 , 4 0 0
1 4 0 , 9 0 0
8 0 , 9 ( \ ( )
5 5 , 8 0 0
1 2 8 , 6 0 0
1 5 , 7 0 0
5 0 , 9 0 0
J 1 5 , 9 0 0
7 0 , 8 0 0
4 & , 3 0 0
1 1 3 , 4 0 0
6 4 . 7 0 0
- - - - _ . _ , - - ~ < - ~ _ . - - - ~ - - ~ ~ - -
T o t a l
O t . h e r s
I
3 0 5 , 1 0 0 3 0 0 , 5 0 0 2 8 1 , 2 0 0 2 6 - 0 , 1 0 0 2 3 7 , 6 0 0 2 2 6 , 4 0 0
2 , 1 0 0 2 , 0 0 0 1 , 9 0 0 i , 6 0 0 1 , 0 0 0 1 , 0 0 0
J L o r . . . . a . H y E. . " 1 g a g e d S e r v i c e P e r s o n n e l . A r m y f i g f u ~ s i n c l u d e G u r k h a s t r e . n g t h s .
A l l f i g u r e s c o n t a i n a n d e m e n t f o r p e r s o n n e l u n d e r g o i n g t r a i r t i n g .
F l yi n g O b j e c t s
M r . R e d m o n d : T o a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h i c h o f f i c e w i t . J i n h i s D e p a r t m e n t d e a l s w i t h
s i g b tn g s o f u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l yi n g o b j e c t s . [ 3 5 8 4 5 ]
I V " u . S o a m e s : T h e f o c a l p o i n t w i t h i n m y D e p a r t m e n t
f o r r e p o r t s o f s i g h t i n g s o f u n i d e n t i f i e d f l yi n g o b j e c t s i s
S e c r e t a r i a t ( A i r S t a f t ) 2 a .
M r . R e d m o n d : T o a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e i f h e w i l 1 l i s t
b y ( a ) d a t e a n d
( b ) l o c a t i o n f o r t h e
l a s t 1 0 ye a r s u n e x p l a i n a b l e
s i g h t i n g s o f u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l yi n g o b j e c t s r e c e i v e d
b y h i s D e p a r t m e n t ; a n d w h a t
a c t i o n w a s s u b s e q u e n t l y t a k e n . [ 3 5 8 4 4 ]
M r . S o a m e s :
M y D e p a r t m e n t e v a l u a t e s r e p o r t s o f
" u n e x p l a i n e d " a e r i a l p h e n o m e n a s o l e l y i n o r d e r t o
e s t a b l i s h w h e t h e r t h e y m a y h a v e < . . . . n y d e f e n c e s i g n i f i c a n c e .
U n l e s s t h e r e i s e v i d e n c e t o i n d i c a t e t . ~ a t t h e U K a i r
d e f e n c e r e g i o n m a y h a v e b e e n c o m p r o m i s e , d . a n d t o d a t e
n o s i g h t i n g h a s p r o v i d e d s u c h e v i d e n c e ,
m y
D e p 3 . l - r m e n t
d o e s n o t i n v e s t i g a t e o r s e e k t o p m v i d e a n e x p l a n a t i o n f o r
w h a t w a s o b s e r v e d . T h e q u e s t i o n o f u n e x p l a i n a b l e .
s i g h t i n g s h a s n o t t . ~ e r e f o r e a r i s e n .
BACKGROUND
-
PQ 2338H
1. This PQ is one of five which have been tabled
by
Martin
Redmond for answer this week, on UFO- related
issues. Since the
House returned from the summer recess this brings the total of
Martin Redmond PQs on UFO- related issues to 33.
2. A
copy
of the answer given to the previous question (24 July)
is attached at Annex A. The incidents giving rise to the
uncorrelated radar tracks mentioned in that answer occurred on
2 Aug and 6 Sep 91. The radar tracks were subsequently identified
by
interception as Russian maritime patrol aircraft which had
penetrated the UK Air Defence Region and which were thought to
have been monitoring Exercise Northern Star, a NATO maritime
exercise taking place at the time.
3. The question asks for details of similar incidents from 1979
onwards. Central file records only exist for the last five years.
It might be possible to obtain some information for the period
from 1979
by initiating a trawl of local records (Forms 540) held
by
RAF stations with air defence responsibilities. Forms 540 are
raised
by
all RAF stations for historical purposes to record
noteworthy events of significance to the station, but not
specifically those of an operational nature. It would involve a
manual search
by
each station for the 17 year period since the
records are not held in a readily available form. The answer to
the last part of the
MPs
question could not therefore be provided
without disproportionate cost and effort and the
reply reflects
this line.
I :
. .
.
{\
A f - \ , h ~ 1 : )c
. .
W r i t t e n A n s w e r s 2 4 JULY 1 9 9 6 4 2 4
DEFENCE
P i u t o n i u m
Mr . Li e w S m i t h : To a s k t h e S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n ce
i f t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t h a v e s i n ce 1 9 6 6
r e q u e s t e d t h e Un i t e d - - K i n g d o m t o p r o v i d e r e a ct o r g r a d e
~ l ~ t o n i u m f o r t h e
p
r p o s ;
o f co n d u ct i n g a n u cl e a r t e s t
~ x p l o s i o n u n d e r t h e p r o v i s i o n s o f t h e US - UK m u t u a l
d e f e n ce a g r e e m e n t o n a t o m i c e n e r g y co - o p e r a t i o n . [ 3 8 5 0 0 ]
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : No s u ch r e q u e s t s h a v e b e e n m a d e
b y
t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s .
S m a l l Eu s i n e s s e s
Mr . Da v i d S h a w : To a s k t h e S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n ce i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e i m p a ct o f
h i s p o l i ci e s a n d ( b )
h e p i m : s m a U b u s i n e s s e s i n t . 0 e l a s t 1 2 m o n t h s a s
i l : ! n s r t b e p r e v i o u s 1 2 m o n t h s ; a n d i f h e w m p u b H s h
t l ~ e p e r f o r m ~ l Dce i n d i ca t o r s b y
, v t . t ch h i s De p m i m e n t
m o r t o r s t h e i m p a ct a n d t h e s t a t i s t ca l r e s u l t s o f s u ch
m o n i t o r i n g , [ 3 9 1 4 1 ]
h . J. r . A r b u t h n o t : Th e G o v e r n m e n t r e co g n i s e t h e cr u ci a l
r o l e p l a y e d b y s m a I l f i m l s i n t h e UK e co n o m y a n d a i m
t o h e l p t h : m
b y p r o v i d i n g s o u n d e co n o m i c co n d i t i o n s -
i n t l a t i o n a n d i n t e r e s t r a t e s l o w ; r e d u ci n g
a d r n i n i s t r a t i v e < ! l d t a x a t i o n b u r d e n s ; a n d w h e r e
r r p p r o p r i a t e p r o v i d e d i r e ct a s s i s t a n ce i n t h e f o r m o f
s p e ci a j i s t a d v i ce a l 1 d s u p p o r t a n d e a s i n g a cce s s t o f i n a n ce ,
De p a r t m e n t s u p p o r t s t h e
DTI s s m a ! 1 b u s i n e s s
m e a : m r e s a n d i n i t i a t i v e s . I a m t h e Mi n i s t e r w i t h i n t h i s
f o r s m a l l b u s i n e s s e s a n d I a t t e n d o r a m
r e p r e s e n t e d a t t h e DTI s r e g u l a r m e e t i n g s .
I r K
De f e n ce S u p p Ee r s S e r v i ce ! a s s i s t s co m p a n i e s ,
i n cl u d i n g s m a l l b u s i n e s s e s , i n m a k i n g co n t a ct w i t h
co n t r a ct s b r a n ch e s . i t a l s o a r r a n g e s f o r d e t a i l s
m a n y f o r t h co m i n g t e n d e r s t o b e p u b l i s h e d i n t h e
f o r t n i g h t l y MOD Co n t r a ct s B u l l e t i n w h i ch i s a v a i 1 a b l e t o
; m y i n t e r e s t e d
p a r t y o n s u b s cr i p t i o n . Th i s e n a b l e s s m a l l
b u s i n e s s e s e i t h e r t o s e e k t o t e n d e r d i r e ct l y f o r s p e ci f i c
[ cq u i r e r n e n r s o r ~ m o r e co r n m o n l y , t o o e co l l l e
s u b - co n t r a ct o r s t o l a r g e r co m p a n i e s .
S i n ce t h e P r o cu r e m e n t Ex e cu t i v e o f t h e Mi n i s t r y o f
De f e n ce m o v e d t o t h e n e w p r o cu r e m e n t h e a d q u a r t e r s a t
A b b e y W o o d n e a r B r i s t o l e a r l i e r t h 1 s y e a r , t h e De f e l ! Ce
S u p p l i e r s S e r v i ce i s i n co n t a ct \v i t h t h e B r i s t o l ch a m b e r
o f co m m e r ce a n d DTI s b u s i n e s s l i n k s , w h o s e S o u t h - w e s t
r e g i o n a l s u p p l y n e t w o r k o f f i ce h a s b e co m e t h e i r n a t i o n a l
f o ca l p o i n t f o r t h e d e f e n ce i n d u s t r y . Ot h e r a r e a s o f t h e
co u n t r y ca n r e a ch
m y De p a r t m e n t , a n d b e r e a ch e d
b y u s ,
t h r o u g h t h e b u s j n e s s Ji n k s n e t w o r k .
A s H m ch o f t h e a s s i s t a n ce p r o v i d e d b y m y
De p a I n n e n t
t o s m a l J b u s i n e s s e s t e n d s t o b e i n t h e s u b - co n t r a cr o r
s e CTOr , i t i s n o t p o s s i b l e t o e s t a b l i s h s u i t a b l e p e r f o r m a 1 1 ce
p a r a m e t t r s a n d t h e r e f o r e n o s t a t i s t i cs a r e a v a i l a b l e .
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w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 3 9 2 4 5 J
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f l y i n g o b j e ct s i g h t i n g r e p o n e d t o h i s De p a r t m e n t b y t h e
m e t e o r o l o g i ca l o f f i ce r a t R A P S h a w b u r y i n t h e e a r l y
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t h e s i g h t i n g w e r e e x a m i n e d
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co n s u l t a n t s t o a s s i s t w i t h i n f o I m a t i o n , p u b l i ci t y , p r e s s a n d
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PQ
REFERENCE:2340H
NOVEMBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):ACAS(N)
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMO D (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if the radiation
readings, reported to his Department by
Lieutenant Colonel Charles
Halt on 13th January 1981, were judged to have posed any threat to
Lieutenant Colonel Halt and his team; who assessed the readings;
how the radiation compared with background radiation in the area;
and if he will make a statement. [2934]
Mr Soames: There is no record of any official assessment of the
radiation readings reported by
Lieutenant Colonel Halt.
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Co l o n e l Ch a r l e s H a l t w e r e o f n o d e f e n c e s i g n i f I c a n c e ;
o n w h a t e v i d e n c e t h e a s s e s s m e n t w a s m a d e ; w h a t
a n a l y s i s o f e v e n t s w a s c a r r i e d o u t ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e
a s t a t e m e n t . [ 3 9 24 9 ]
M r . S o a m e s : Th e r e p o r t w a s a s s e s s e d
b y
t h e s t a f f i n
m y
De p a r t m e n t r e s p o n s i b l e f o r a i r d e f e n c e m a t t e r s , S i n c e
t h e j u d g m e n t w a s t h a t i t c o n t a i n e d n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e
s i g n i f i c a n c e n o f u r t h e r a c t i o n w a s t a k e n .
U n c o r r e l a t e d R a d a r Tr a c k s (I n v e s t i g a t i o n s )
M r . R e d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n c e o n h o w m a n y o c c a s i o n s R A P a i r c r a f t h a v e b e e n
(a )
s c r a m b l e d a n d (b )
d i v e r t e d f r o m t a s k t o i n v e s t i g a t e
u n c o r r e l a t e d t a r g e t s p i c k e d u p
o n r a d a r ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 3 9 21 8 }
M r . S o a m e s : I n t h e p a s t f I v e y e a r s R A P a i r c r a f t h a v e
b e e n s c r a m b l e d o r d i v e r t e d f r o m t a s k o n t w o o c c a s i o n s t o
i n t e r c e p t a n d i d e n t i f y u n c o r r e l a t e d r a d a r t r a c k s e n t e r i n g
t h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m a i r d e f e n c e r e g i o n .
U n i d e n t i f i e d Cr a f t
M r . R e d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n c e
(1 )
w h a t i s h i s De p a r t m e n t s a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e
i n c i d e n t t h a t o c c u l Te d o n 5 No v e m b e r 1 9 9 0 w h e n a p a t r o l
o f R A P To r n a d o a i r c r a f t f l y i n g o v e r t h e No r t h s e a w e r e
o v e r t a k e n a t h i g h s p e e d b y
a n u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f t ; a n d i f h e
w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 3 9 24 5 J
(2)
i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e u n i d e n t i f I e d
f l y i n g o b j e c t s i g h t i n g r e p o n e d t o h i s De p a r t m e n t b y t h e
m e t e o r o l o g i c a l o f f i c e r a t R A P S h a w b u r y i n t h e e a r l y
h o u r s 0 0 1 M a r c h 1 9 9 3 . [ 3 9 24 6 ]
M r . S o a m e s : R e p o r t s o f s i g h t i n g s o n t h e s e d a t e s a r e
r e c o r d e d o n f I l e a n d w e r e e x a m i n e d b y s t a f f r e s p o n s i b l e
f o r a i r d e f e n c e m a t t e r s . No f I r m c o n c l u s i o n s w e r e d r a w n
a b o u t t h e n a t u r e o f t h e p h e n o m e n a r e p o r t e d b t t h e e v e n t s
w e r e n o t j u d g e d t o b e o f d e f e n c e s i g n i f i c a n c e .
M r . R e d m o n d : To a s k t h e
De f e n c e w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h i s De p a r t m e n t m a d e o f t h e
p h o t o g r a p h
o f a n u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f t a t Ca l v i n e o n 4
A u g u s t
,
1 9 9 0 ; w h O r e m o v e d i t f r o m a n o f f i c e i n s e c r e t a r i a t (a i r
s t a f f ) 2a ; f o r w h a t r e a s o n s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t . [ 3 9 24 8 ]
M r . S o a m e s : A n u m b e r o f n e g a t i v e s a s s o c i a t e d w i t h
t h e s i g h t i n g w e r e e x a m i n e d
b y s t a f f r e s p o n s i b l e f o r a i r
d e f e n c e m a t t e r s . S i n c e i t w a s j u d g e d t h a t t h e y c o n t a i n e d
n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e s i g n i f i c a n c e t h e n e g a t i v e s w e r e n o t
r e t a i n e d a n d w e h a v e n o r e c o r d o f a n y p h o t o g r a p h s h a v i n g
P u b l i c i t y
M s H o d g e : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y
o f S t a t e f o r De f e n c e
w h a t i s h i s De p a r t m e n t s b u d g e t i n 1 9 9 6 - 9 7 f o r
c o n s u l t a n t s t o a s s i s t w i t h i n f o r m a t i o n , p u b l i c i t y . p r e s s a n d
m e d i a . [ 3 9 3 5 3 ]
BACKGROUND NOTE TO PQ2303H
1. This PQ is one of two which follow 26
UFO-related
PQs
tabled last month
by
Mr Redmond (22 to this Department, one to the
Prime Minister, and three to the FCO).
2. We believe that the question has been asked as a result of
recent media speculation about an alleged
UFO
sighting off the
East Anglian coast which occurred on the night of
4/5 Oct, and was
-.
witnessed by
a number of people including officers of Skegness and
Boston Police stations. Mr Redmond has written to USofS about
this matter recently (copy
attached) and we shall be providing a
draft reply
for this letter shortly.
3. During the night of
4/5 Oct, lights in the sky were observed
seawards over The Wash. Although newspaper articles claim that
the sightings were correlated
by
radar returns, the radar returns
were assessed, were almost certainly caused
by
a permanent
geographical
feature on land and considered to be St Botolphs
church spire in Boston, (273ft high). The church spire is known
locally as the
Boston Stump and can appear occasionally on some
radars in certain radar propagation conditions. The lights over
The Wash area were observed from three separate locations high
above the h rizon, but without corroborating radar data and no
associated air vehicle was d tected
by
civil or military radars.
A distant celestial source probably accounted for the lights
observed.
4. As the PQ answer explains,
"all
available means" would be
used to identify penetrations of UK airspace (which extends 12 nms
from our coastline) or the much larger UK Air Defence Region which
we police on behalf of NATO. We do not believe it would be
appropriate
to provide Mr Redmond with more detailed information
about the
"means"
available to us as this would reveal our early
warning methodology. The measures used would include electronic
early warning identification (radar) and procedural means (ie.
correlation with civil flight plans), and interception when
electronic and procedural means did not resolve the issue.
Interception would also be used in the case of non-NATO military
aircraft to demonstrate a defence presence.
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I am very c onc erned about an inc ident t hat oc c urred of f t he
East A ngl ian c oast rec ent l y, invol ving a visual unident if ied
f l ying c raf t
sight ing whic h was c orrel at ed
by various dif f erent
m il it ary radar syst em s. I have at t ac hed, f or your inf orm at ion,
c opies of som e rec ent press report s.
From t hese press report s it woul d seem as if t he unident if ied
f l ying c raf t was seen
by t he c rew of a t anker; t he c rew of a c ivil
airc raf t ; pol ic e at Skegness (who t ook a video) , and
pol ic e at
B ost on.
Sim ul t aneousl y, t he obj ec t seem s t o have been pic ked
up
on m il it ary radar syst em s at R. A . F. Neat ishead, R. A . F.
Waddingt on,
and R. A . F. Nort hwood, t oget her wit h
syst em s at London and at
A ngl ia radar.
What st rikes m e as inc redibl e is t hat no airc raf t were
sc ram bl ed when an unc orrel at ed
t arget was pic ked up so c l ose t o
t he c oast . This raises ror m e, serious issues about t he
way in
whic h we pol ic e t he U . K. A ir Def enc e Region
(U . K. A . D. R. ) .
Given
t hat we have Tornado F. 3 airc raf t based at R. A . F. Leuc hars; R. A . F.
Leem ing; and R. A . F. Coningsby, shoul d not one of t hese bases have
had A ir Def enc e airc raf t on Q uic k Reac t ion A l ert
(Q . R. A . ) , and
shoul d a l aunc h not have been ordered? I am al so unc l ear as t o
t he invol vem ent of R. A . F. Kinl oss in Sc ot l and, hom e of our Nim rod
Marit im e Pat rol A irc raf t .
A st ory seem s t o have been
put around t hat t he radar
syst em s
r, l ere
pic king up
: Sost on s
c hurc h t o ; ver!
A l t hough I ground c l ut t erl l
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give spurious ret urns around c ert ain radar heads,
m y
underst anding is t hat t he l oc at ions of suc h areas are wel l known,
and t hat suc h an ef f ec t is unl ikel y t o be repeat ed on so m any
dif f erent radar syst em s. Som e of t he A ir Traf f ic Cont rol radars
m ight have dif f ic ul t y wit h ground c l ut t er, but A ir Def enc e radar
syst em s and t heir skil l ed
operat ors shoul d know t he dif f erenc e.
This "expl anat ion! !
al so rail s t o t ake ac c ount of t he visual
sight ings.
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u t . o f t h i
r h L s I s t h e t r a n s c r i p t o f t h e c o n v e r s a t I o n s b e t w e e n
~ o a s t g u a r d s , RAF s t a t i o n s I n N o r f o l k , S c o t l a n d a n d
. . c o d o n , p o l I c e a n d N o r t h S e a t a n k e r C o n o c o a s t
. . m e n s t r a n g e l I g h t s w e r e s e e n I n t h e n i g h t s k y a t
t h e w e e k e n d . I t I s t h e r e c o r d I n g t a k e n a t
i a ! T ! 1 o u t h C o a s t g u a r d h e a d q u a r t e r s :
0 3 : 1 . 4 S k e g n e s s J X l l l c e :
"We
c a n s e e a s t r a n g e
r e d - a o d . g r e e n r o t a t i n g l i g h t i n t h e s k y d i r e c t l y
; o l l L l - e a s t f r o m S k e g n e s s . I t l o o k s s t r a n g e a s i t
i s s t a t i o n a r y a n d t h e r e i s n o a i r c r a f t s o u n d i n
t i 1 e a r e a . "
J 3 26 RAF K i n l e s s : "N o r t h w o o d h a v e a r a d a r
: o n t a c t b e a r i n g 221 d e g r e e s a t 1 6 m i l e s , i t l o o k s
t o b e s t . . 1 . t i o n a r y a n d t h e r e i s n o w a y o f
i e t e r m i n i n g i t s h e i g h t b u t i t m u s t b e q u i t e a
s i z e t o b e v i s i b l e f r o m S k e g n e s s . "
0 3 3 1 K I n l o s s : "N e a t i s h e a d n o w c o n i l r m s a
: o u D l e o f r a d a r c o n t a c t s i n t h e a r e a b u t n o
h e i g h t , t i l e y s e e m t o b e s t a t i o n a r y . T h e r e a r e
d e t 1 n i t e l y n o m i l i t a r y a i r c r a f t i n t . 1 e a r e a a n d
[1 0 n o t i f i e d c i v i l f l i g h t s s h o u l d b e t h e r e . "
0 3 4 6 C o n o c o a s t t a n k e r :
"We
h a v e t h e s e l i g h t s
)n v s u 3 . l . N o w t h e y a r e f l a s h i n g r e d , g r e e n a n d
w h i t e . C a n n o t i d e n t i f y i t a s a n a i r c r a f t a s i t
l o o k s s t a t i o n a r y a n d i t i s a p p r o x i m a t e l y o n e
m i l e h i g h . "
Y a r m o u t h C o a s t g u a r d : "D i d
y o u s e e f r o m w h i c h
d i r e c t i o n i t a p p e a r e d ? "
C o n o c o a s t : "N o .
I t j u s t a p p e a r e d a n d i s
s t a o n a r j . "
0 3 53 K l n l o s s : "N e a t i s h e a d s a y i t c o u l d b e
c a : . : ; ; e d b y t h e w e a t h e r "
C o a s t g u a r d :
"r
d o n t
t h i n k s o a s w e h a v e ; : s u : :
; : 0 n t a c t .
. ,
K l n l o s s : "We U. N e a ts h e a d a n d N o r t J 1 . w o o d
r e p o r t t h a t t i l e r e i s n o t r a n s p o n d e r o n t h i s
o b j e c t a n d t h e r e f o r e n o m e a n s o f i n t e r r o g a t i o n .
I t i s o b v i o u s t h a t w h a t e v e r i t i s i t d o e s n o t w a n t
a n y o n e t o k n o w t i l a t i t i s t h e r e . Al s o
N e a t i s h e a d r e p o r t i t s p o s i t i o n a s d i r e c t l y o v e r
B o s t o n . "
0 4 0 8 C o n o c o a s t :
"n
i s s t i l l s t a t i o n a l ) a n d
D a s h i n g r e d , g r e e n , b l u e a n d w h i t e . I t l o o k s
v e r y h i g h . n o r t h o f u s , a n d t h e r e i s n o e n g i . n e
n o i s e .
0 4 1 7 C o a s t g u a r d : "S k e g n e s s , c a n y o u g e t v i d e o
f o o t a g e a s t h e RAF a r e v e r j i n t c r e s l e r l < 1 n d m a y
r e o u i r e i t l a t e r . "
0 4 27 K l n l o s s : "N e a t i s h e a d a r e k e e p i n g a J o g o f
w h a t l o o k s l i k e c l u t t e r o n t h e r a d a r . "
0 4 4 5 Y a r m o u t h C o a s t g u a r d : "C o l 1 o c o a s t . c a n y o u
g i v e u s a n u p d a t e ? "
C o n o c o a s t :
"We
c a n s e e t w o l i g h t s ! l a s h [n g
g r e e n a n d r e d . "
0 50 1 C o a s t g u a r d : "Gi v e
u s b o t h b e a r i n g s o f I h e
t v , o l i g h t s "
C o n o e o a s t : "T h e r e i s o n e s t a t i o n a r y l i g h t a t 24 5
d e g t r u e a n d t h e o t h e r a t 1 60 t r u e , t h e l i g h t s a r e
b o t h v i s i b l e w i t h t h e n a k e d e y e a n d b o t h
e x h i b i t t i l e s a m e c h a r a c t e r i s t i c s f l a s h i n g r e d .
b l u e . g r e e n a n d w h i t e . "
o r l d
0 51 7 B o s t o n J X l l l c e :
"We
c a n s t i l l s e e t h e l i g h t . I t
i s t o w a r d s t i l e s o u t h - e a s t a n d s e e m s a b o u t 4 0 - 4 5
d e g r e e s i n t h e s k y . I t i s j u s t a b r i g h t l i g h t t o u s . "
0 521 K l n l o s s : "N e a t i s h e a d a r e r u n n i n g a t r a c e
o n t h i s a n d c a n n o t e x p l a i n i t . I f t h e y a r e
h e l i c o p t e r s t i l e y a r e f a s t a p p r o a c h i n g t h e e n d o f
t h e i r e n d u r a n c e a s i t i s w e U o v e r t w o h o u r s
s i n c e t h e f J r s t r e p o r t l e t a l o n e h o w l o n g t . . 1 e y
w e r e u p t i l e r e b e f o r e t i l e y w e r e a c t u a l l y
s i g h t e d . "
0 552 C o n o c o a s t : "We
c a n s t i l l s e e t i l e l i g h t s ,
a n d t h e y a r e o n t h e i r o r i g i n a l b e a r i n g s a n d
f l a s h i n g t h e s a m e c o l o u r s b u t t h e y s e e m h i g h e r
a n d d i m m e r "
0 70 8 FY l g h t Ue u t e n a n t M c Fa r l a n e , f i e a t l s h e a d :
"We
h a d a r e p o r t f r o m N o r i l i w o o d t J 1 . a t a c i v i l
f l i g h t h a d a l s o r e p o r t e d s t r a , g e l i g h t s i l 1 t . 1 e
a r e a . T h e y f i t e x a c t l y w h a t w a s s e e n f r o m t h e
g r o u n d , m u l t i - < : o l o u r e d , f l a s h i n g , s t a t i o n a r l
l i g , . 1 t s .
"
0 73 1 Fl i g h t Ue u t e n a n t Ge o r g e . N o r t h w o o d : "T h i s
e c h o i s s t i l l o n o u r s c r e e n s a n d w e c a n n o t
e x p l a i n t h i s a t a l l a p a r t f r o m i t b e i n g a
m e t e o r o l o g i c a l p h e n o m e n o n b u t t h e n a g a i n w e
h a v e v i s u a l s l g h t i r J g s a l s o . T h e c i v i l i a n f l i g h t
t h a t r e p o r t e d t h e s e l i g h t s a s a f l a r e w a s s i x
m i l e s a w a y a t t h e t i m e . Al l v e r i s t r a n g e :
U0 9 N e a t l s h e a d : "T h e
o b j e c t s t i l l h a s n o t
m o v e d , L D n d o n r a d a r a n d V l a d d i n g t o n c a n a l s ,
s e e
i t . "
1 920 An g J l a r a d a r : "T h e r e i s n o t h L "1 g t h e r e n o w
w e a r e o f t h e o p i n i o n t i l a t i t w a s t h e B o s t o n
S t u m p . "
Wi n d : Fo r c e Fo u r . V i s i b i l i t y : 20 m i l e s .
D i d
y o u
s e e t h e
m y s t e r i o u s
b r i g h t l i g h t s ?
T h e s o u r c e o f "s t r a n g e "
b r i g h t
i g r l t s s p o t t e d i n t h e s k y o f f E a s t
\ n g l i a 2. t t h e w e e k e n d r e m a i n e d a
T I i s t e r y l a s t n i g h t .
P J l i c e , t h e RAP a n d s h i p p i n g
e p o r t e d t h e a p p e a r a n c e o f t w o
a r g e . u n e x p l a i n e d o b j e c t s a b o v e
. h e Wa s h i n t h e e a r l y h o u r s o f
; a t u r d a y .
B a f T I e d p e r s o n n e l a t RAF
; e a t i s h e a d
s p e n t h o u r s t r a c k L 1 g
h e l T FO s , d e s c r i b e d b y w i t n e s s e s
i s
l a r g e , a b o u t a m i l e u p i n t h e s k y ,
t ~ : d w i t h b l u e . w h i t e . r e d d g r e e n
? < h i n "
l i g h t s
. _ - ; ~
& l s t r ; o f D e f e n c e s a i d i t
w a s t a k i n g t h e s g h t i n g s s e r i o u s l y
a n
"a l l p o s s i b i l i t i e s " w o u l d b e
c o v e r e d .
S p o k e s m a n t - : i g e l S e r g e a n t s a i d :
"We
a r e t r y i n g t o p r o v e t h a t i t d o e s
n o t r e p r e s e n t a n y s o r t o f s e c u r i t y
t h r e a t a n d L h . a t i t \ V D . S n o t a n
a g g r e s s i v e i n t r u s i o n i n t o o u r
a i r s p a c e . T h i s i s o n e o f L 1 . e b i g g e r
s i g h t i l 1 . g s r e c e n t l y a n d h a s c a u s e d
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EDP a f t er t . h e s l g h t i ng s , wh i c h c o c i d ed wi t . 1
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DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLI AMENTARY BRANCH: 1 2: 00 ON MONDAY 4
NOVEMBER 1 996
LEAD BRANCH: SEC( AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE( S):
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE NAME AND TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE DESK OFFI CER
GRADE Sl ONE STAR WHO APPROVES THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
MPS DETAI LS: MR MARTI N REDMOND ( LABOUR) ( DON VALLEY)
221 TO ask t he Secret ary of St at e f or Def ence, what is t he Royal
Air Forces pract ice as regards invest igat ing sight ings of
unident if ied f l ying
craf t which correl at e wit h radar inf ormat ion;
if t here is a requirement t o invest igat e such phenomena
by
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DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:00 ON MONDAY 4
NOVEMBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
221TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what is the Royal
Air
Forces practice as regards investigating sightings of
unidentified flying craft which correlate with radar information;
if there is a requirement to investigate such phenomena
by
scrambling aircraft; and if he will make a statement. [2200]
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DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:00 ON MONDAY 4
NOVEMBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
111
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list the
reports of encounters by Royal Air Force pilots with unidentified
flying
craft since 1966 which have not been released to the
publici on what grounds they are still classified documents not
released to the public; and if he will make a statement. [2201]
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S oa me s :
I w i I / w r i r e t o t h e h on . . \ < f e mb e r
a n d a
C O D Y of t h e
l e t t e r
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my r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e M e mb e r
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h o n . M e mb e r s h o r t l y. C o p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l : : I ce d
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b y mo n t h f o r e ach o f t h e l as t 1 0 ye ar s ,
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[ ~ 0 9 2 2 J
M r . D av i d D a , i s : I s h aH w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e mb e r
s h o r t l y. C o p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i I I b e p l ace d i n t h e Li b r ar i e s
o f t h e H o u s e .
C o n s u l t an t s
M r . M i l b u r n : T o as k t h e S e cr e t ar Y o f S t at e f o r F o r e m
an d C o mmo n w e al t h A f f ai r s w h at ar ~ h i s l at e s t e s t i ma~ s
o f t h e e x p e n d i t u r e o n al l e x t e r n al co n s u l t an t s , i n cl u d i n g
man a s z e me n t co n s u l t an t s , f o r e ach ye ar s i n ce 1 9 9 2 , i n
1 9 9 6
p r i ce s . f o r / 1 J s D e p ar t me n t an d i t s ag e n ci e s ; an d w h at
ar e t h e
q u an t i f i e d an n u al co s t s av i n g s w h i ch s u ch
e x p e n d i t u r e h as r e s u l t e d i n .
[ ~ ! l i S ]
C o mmo n w e al t h A f f ai r s Of f i ce ,
my r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e
M e mb e r f o r Ri ch mo n d an d Bar n e s ( M r . H an l e y) , s h al l
w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e mb e r s h o r t l y. C o p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l
b e p l ace d i n t h e Li b r ar i e s o f t h e H o u s e .
Ne w
Bu i l d i n g s an d P r e mi s e s
M r s .
Br i d g e t P r e n t i ce : T o as k t h e S e cr e t ar y o f S t at e
f o r
F o r e i g n an d C o mmo n w e al t h A f f ai r s w h at w as t h e t o t al
e x p e n d i t u r e o n n e w b u i l d i n g s an d p r e mi s e s
b y h i s
D e p ar t me n t an d i t s ag e n ci e s ; an d i f h e w i l l i n d i cat e t h e
s q u ar e f o o t ag e o f n e w o f f i ce s p ace p u r ch as e d o r n e w l y
r e n t e d i n e ach o f t h e l as t f i v e ye ar s .
[ 4 1 J 4 4 ]
C o mmo n w e al t h
Of f i ce ,
f o r Ri ch mo n d an d Bar n e s ( } . . o k H an l e y) , s h al l w r i t e t o t h e
h o n . M e mb e r
s h o r t l y. C o p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i ! ! b e p l ace d
T e l e p h o n e I n t e r ce p t i o n s
M r .
Re d mo n d : T o as k t h e
F o r e i g n an d
C o mmo n w e al t h A f f ai r s i f h e w i H l i s t f o r e ach
o f t h e l as t 1 2 mo n t h s t h e n u mb e r o f
( a) i n t e r ce p t i o n s an d
( b ) mo n i t o r i n g s o f t e l e p h o n e caI l s
( i )
e n t e r i n g o r
( i i ) l e av i n g t h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m,
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h e ad q u ar t e r s - Nat i o n al
S e cu r i t y
A g e n cy ag r e e me n t : an d i f h e w
mak e a
s t at e me n t .
[ 4 0 9 i 2 j
D r . Li am F o x : T h e M i n i s t e r o f S t at e , F o r e i 2 : n an d
Of f i ce ,
f o r Ri ch mo n d an d Bar n e s ( M r .
H an l e y) , s h al l w r i t e t o t h e
h o n . M e mb e r s h o r t l y. C o p i e s o f t h e J e t t e r w i I J b e
p l ace d
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W e ap o n s
M r . A u s t i n M i t ch e l l : T o as k t h e
F o r e i g n an d C o mmo n w e al t h
A f f ai r s w h at as s e s s me n t
h e
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w e ap o n s o f t h e d e ci s i o n o f t h e
I n t e r n at i o n al C o u r t o f J u s t i ce o n n u cJ e ar w e ap o n s .
[ 4 J 2 2 4 J
M r . D av i d D av i s : I s h al l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e mb e r
s h o r t l y. C o p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l J b e p l ace d i n t h e Li b r ar i e s
C o mb i n e d H e at an d P o w e r
M r . Bat t l e : T o as k t h e
F o r e i g n
an d
A f f ai r s w h at
cap aci t y o f e l e ct r i ci t y
u s e d i n h i s
D e p ar t me n t s
b u i l d i n g s i s g e n e r at e d i n a
co mb i n e d h e ar an d
p o w e r p l an t ; an d w h at p l an s h e h as t o
i n cr e as e t h at
cap aci t y.
[ 4 1 3 2 1 ]
D r . Li am F o x : T h e M i n i s t e r o f S t at e , F o r e m an d
Of f i ce ,
my r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e ~ l e mb e r
f o r Ri ch mo n d an d Bar n e s ( ] v I r . H an l e y) , s h al l w r i t e t o t . 1 e
h o n . M e mb e r s h o r t l y.
C o p i e s o f t h e J e t t e r w i l l b e p l ace d
D EF E~ C E
Re l i g i o u s D i s cr i mi n at i o n
( C at e r i ck
C amp )
M r . G ab r ai t h : T o as k t h e
D e f e n ce w h at
r e p o r t s h e h as r e ce i v e d o f r e l i g i o u s
d i s cr i mi n at i o n at C at t e r i ck
camp d u r i n g J u n e an d J u l y:
an d i f h e w i l J mak e a s t at e me n t .
[ 4 0 7 6 6 J
M r . S o ame s : T h e r e h av e b e e n n o r e p r t e d i n ci d e n t s o f
r e l i g i o u s d i s cr i mi n at i o n at C at t e r i ck
C amp d u r i n g J u n e
an d J u l v . H o w e v e r , w e t r e at an y al l e e : at i o n s o f
d i s cr i mi ~ at i o n
e x t r e me l y
s e r i o u s l y ~ n d i f t h e h o n .
M e mb e r can p r o v i d e
an y i n f o r mat i o n w h i ch s u g g e s t s t h at
r e J i g i o u s d i s cr i mi n at i o n
h as t ak e n p l ace at C at t e r i ck C amp
i t w i l l , o f co u r s e , b e f u l l y i n v e s t i g at e d .
S u i ci d e s
M r . G al b r ai t h : T o as k t h e
D e f e n ce
p u r s u an t t o h i s an s w e r o f 1 6 M ay t o t h e h o n .
M e mb e r f o r S o u t h S h i e l d s
( D r C l ar k ) , Of f i ci al Re p o r T ,
co l u mn 5 5 9 , i f h e w i l l b r e ak d o w n t h e n u mb e r o f s u i ci d e s
i n t h e an n e d f o r ce s
b y ( a) ye ar an d
( h ) s e r v ce f o r e ach
ye ar s i n ce 1 9 9 1 .
[ ~ 0 7 6 7 ]
M r . S o ame s : S i n ce
J an u ar y 1 9 9 1 t h e t o t aI n u mb e r o f
s e r v i ce
p e r s o n n e l w h o h av e b e e n co n f i r me d as
co mmi t t i n g
s u i ci d e i s 1 3 0 . w h i ch i s b r o k e n d o w n as
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w h a t a r e t h e
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h ou s e s
f r om t h e
m a r r i e d
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t o
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H om e s
f or
i m m e d i a t e
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b y e p r i v a t e
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1 \ 1 r .
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I w i I l
~ i t e t o t h e h on ,
M e m b e r a n d
a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r
w i l y e
L i b r a r y of t h e
H ou s e .
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M a n or
M r .
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To a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r y
of S t a t e f or
D e f e n c e
w h a t , :
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c u r r e n t l y
u n d e r t a k e n
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w h a t
w or k
w a s
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e s t a b l i s h m e n t
f or t h e l a s t
1 0
y e a r s ;
J f
d i f h e w
m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 4 08 1 3 ]
M r .
~ a m e s : I w i l l
w r i t e t o t h e h on .
M e m b e r a n d a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r w
b e
f
H o; e
/
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I n t e l l i g e n c e
Br a n c h e s
/
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To a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f or
M r . A r b u t h n ot :
M y D e p a r t m e n t
h a s
c on d u c t e d
n o
; ;
f or m a l a s s e s s m e n t of t h e r i s k s t o c i v i l i a n s
f r om
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p p n ,
.
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a n d i f h e
w i l l m a k e a
s , " e m e n t ;
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~ I a r k : To a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r ; : of
S t a t ~ f or
D e f e t 1 0
.
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i f h e w , 1 I m a k e .
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n c a n m m ." p p , d
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s l a l e m e n l ;
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n c a n i u m
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v e r y I ow I I , v , 1
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d e p l e t e d n c a n i n m
a m m u o> l > on
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m m m a L
J m a k e a
s l a l e m n l ;
[ 4 I 04 I J
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S e c r e t a r y
of S t a t e
f ol
D e f e n c e
( 4 ) w h a t i s t h e
c u r r e n t
f u n c t i on of
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w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e of t h e 1 9 9 J A t o~ i c
En e r g y
f u n c t i on
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y e a r s a n d
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y e a r s
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A u t h or i t y r e p or t on i n d u s t r i a l
t e c h n ol og y
c o
c e m i n g t h e
m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t ;
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of e x p os u r e t o
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h on .
M e m b e r
t f
t h e
l e t t e r
s e n t
m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
r 4 1 03 9 J
b y m y n ob I , F d ood t h e
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r w i J [ w r i t e 1 0 I h ,
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p p l a c e d i n t h e L I b r a r y of t h e
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i \ 1 e m b e r s
a n d a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r \ \ " i l ]
b e
L i b r a r y
of t h e
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c h ol a s
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of
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m a k e a
s t : l t e m e n t .
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N i c h ol a s
P op e w a s
p os t e d on
p r om ot i on t w o
y e a r s
a g o t o a
g e n e r a l
f i n a n c e
p ol i c y
b r a n c h ,
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S h e l l s
D r , D a v i d Cl a r k : To a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r y
of S t i n e f or
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h e h a s m a d e of t h e
c u r r e n t
r i s k
p os e d t o c i v i l i a n s f r om
e x p l od e d
d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e D s i n K u w a i t .
[ 4 ! 1 O! ]
; \ I r . S oa m e s : BJ i t i s h
f or c e s
f i r e d
S m e
S S
d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m s h e l l s d u r i n g t h e
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c on f l i c t .
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of
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a s s e s s m e n t
of t h e
n u m b e r
of
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w r i t e t o t h e
h on .
M e m b e r a n d a
c op y of t h e
l e t t e r
w i l l b e
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S e c r e t a r y
of S t a t e f or
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J 04 8 J
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i n
f l y i n g
ob j e c t
i n v e s t i g a t i on s ;
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s t a t e m e n t ;
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( 3 ) h ow
m a n y
r e c or d s
c u r r e n t l y
h e l d
b y h i s
S c i e n t i f i c
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y e a r s a n d
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y e a r s ; h ow
m a n y of
t h e s e
r e c or d s r e f e r t o
f l y i n g
ob j c t s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
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A u s t r al i an
ai r f o r c e i n r e s p e c t o f
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s ; an d i f
he w i l l m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
[ 41042 J
has t ak e n
D e p ar t m ~ n t w i t h t he
S p an i s h
M i n i s t r y
o f D e f e n c e s
i n t e l l i g e n c e
s e c t i o n o f t he
S p an i s h ai r f o r c e s
ai r o p e r at i o n s c o m m an d
i n
r e s p e c t o f
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s ; an d i f he \ v i l I m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
[ . + 10501
(6) i f he w i U m ak e
s t at e m e n t
o n hi s
D e p ar t m e n t s
p o l i c y t o w ar d s
f l y i n g o b j e c t s an d o n ho w t hi s
has d e v e l o p e d
d u r i n g t he
p as t 30
y e ar s ;
[ 409131
(7 )
w hat
c o - o p e r at i o n
t he r e i s b e t w e e n
t he
Ro y al A i r
F o r c e an d t he U n i t e d
S t at e s
ai r f o r c e i n
r e s p e c t o f
e s t Qb l s hi n g t he f ac t s
r e l at i n g t o
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s ; an d i f he w i I ! m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
[ 40918 1
(8 )
ho w m an y aU e g e d
l an d i n g s
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s hav e b e e n
r e c o r d e d
i n e ac h
y e ar s i n c e
198 0 an d
t hi s y e ar t o d at e ; ho w
m an y hav e b e e n
i n v e s t i g at e d
b y hi s
p e r s o n n e l ;
w hi c h o f t he s e had b e e n
t r ac e d
b y r ad ar an d w i t h w hat
r e s u l t ; an d i f he
w i l l m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
(4092 11
has t ak e n
D e p ar t m e n t
w i t h t he I t al i an
M i n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e ai r f o r c e
g e n e r al s t af f
(2 .
D e p ar t m e n t )
i n
r e s p e c t
o f u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s ; an d i f he w i l l
m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
[ 410491
(10) w hat
i n s t r u c t i o n s
hav e
b e e n
s e n t t o t he
c o m m an d e r s o f Ro y al A i r F o r c e
s t at i o n s t o c o ! ! e c t
r e p Or t s
f r o m ai r c r e w s
hav i n g
al l e g e d l y
s i g ht e d
f l y i n g o b j e c t s ; w hat
i n q u i r i e s hav e b e e n he l d
f o l l o w i n g
s u c h
s i g ht i n g s ; t o w hat
e x t e n t t he r e has b e e n
c o l l ab o r at i o n
b e t \ v e e n hi s
D e p ar t m e n t
an d
d e p ar t m e n t s
i n
(a) Can ad a
an d
(b ) t he U n i t e d S t at e s o f
A m e r i c a o n t hi s
p r o b l e m ; an d
i f he w i l l m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
(40917 J
(11) w hat
c o n s u l t at i o n
has t ak e n
p l ac e i n e ac h o f t he
l as t f i v e y e ar s b y hi s
D e p ar t m e n t
w i t h Ne w
Z e al an d s
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e
i n
r e s p e c t o f
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s ; an d i f he w i l l m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
[ 410-
J
(12 ) w hat
c o n s u l t at i o n
has t ak e n
p l ac e i n e ac h o f t he
l as t f i v e y e ar s
b y hi s
D e p ar t m e n t
w i t h t he
P o r t u g u e
.
.
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e s
j o i n t s t af f o f t he ar m e d
f o r e s
.
i n t e l l i g e n c e d i v i s i o n
i n
r e s p e c t o f
i n g
o b j e c t s ; an d i f he w i l l m ak e a
s t at e m e n t ;
1051J
(13) ho w
m an y i n s t an c e s
o f
f l y i n
o b j e c t s
hav e b e e n r e p o r t e d o n
b y t he
d e f e n c e
s e r v i c s o f t he
U n i t e d
Ki n g d o m
d u r i n g t he l as t 12
m o n t hs ; hat
s t e p s
ar e t ak e n t o c o - o r d i n at e
s u c h
o b s e r v at i o n s ;
d i f he w i I !
m ak e a s t at e m e n t ;
P 09t O]
(l ~ ) i f he w i l l l i s t
b y y e ar f o r
t h~
! af .
30
y e ar s ho w
m an y s t r u c t u r e d c r af t o f u n . . \ n o w n
o n g y I
hav e
p e n e t r at e d
t he U n i t e d Ki n g d o m s
ai r d d e n c e r e a o n ;
an d
i f he w i l t
m ak e a s t at e m e n t .
[ 40919] .
M r . S o am e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h ho n . f e m b e r
an d a
c o p y o f t he l e t t e r w i l l b e
p l ac e
I
i n t he
L i b r ar y o f t he
H o u s e .
To r n ad o
Cr as h
(Bl ac k p o o l )
M r . M o r g an : To as k t he
S ~ c r e t ar y o f S t J t e
f o r
D e f e n c e . p u r s u an t t o hi s o r al
s t at e m e n t
o f 14
Oc t o b e r ,
j . . ; ~ (I . \ - ! . . ! . j . P . . . . G [ , ~
-
W r i t t e n
A n s w e r s
1094
Oj j c i al
Re p o r t , c o l u m n
47 6. o n w hat d at e t he F 3
To r n ad o
w hi c h
c r as he d
o n
Bl ac k p o o l
b e ac h i n
S e p t e m b e r ,
r e c e i v e d
i t s
c e r t i f i c at e
o f
ai r w o r t hi n e s s .
[ 4107 0J
D r .
D av i d
Cl ar k : To as k t he
S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e
f o r
D e f e n c e ,
p u r s u an t
t o hi s
r e p l y o f 14
Oc t o b e r ;
Of f i c i al
Re p o r t , c o l u m n
48 4.
b y w ho m
t he
i n v e s t i g at i o n
i n t o
t he
c r as h o f t he
To r n ad o
F 3 o f f
Bl ac k p o o l o n 2 8
S e p t e m b e r
w i I ! b e c ar r i e d
o u t .
(41336J
M r .
A r b u t hn o t :
The
To r n ad o
F 3 t hat
c r as he d
n e ar
Bl ac k p o o l
o n 2 8
S e p t e m b e r
1996 had
b e e n
au t ho r i s e d
t o
f l y b y t he
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e o n t he
s am e
d ay as t he
ac c i d e n t .
The
au t ho r i s at i o n
w as
i s s u e d , at Br i t i s h
A e r o s p ac e
W ar r o n
w he r e
t he
ai r c r af t
W as
b e i n g
r e f u r b i s he d ,
i n
ac c o r d an c e
w i t h
s t an d ar d
. p r o c e d u r e s
f o r
ai r c r af t
u n d e r g o i n g
s u c h
w o r k .
The
ai r c r af t
w hi c h
c r as he d w as t he n i n t h o f a s e r i e s
o f 16
ai r c r af t
b e i n g
r e f u r b i s he d
b y Br i t i s h
A e r o s p ac e .
The
p r e v i o u s
e i g ht had
al r e ad y b e e n
r e t u r n e d
t o t he
RA F i n
f u J l y
o p e r at i o n al
c o n d i t i o n .
/ . .
A
M i n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e ~ o
d o f
i n q u i r y i s u n d e r
w ay i n t o t he c au s e s
o f t he c r as h d n o t o n e
b y t he
D e p ar t m e n t
o f
Tr an s p o r t
as
s u g g e s t e
b y m y r i g ht ho n .
F r i e n d
o n
1. +
Oc t o b e r ,
Of f i c i al
Re r o n . c o l u m n
48 4.
I
Ne w
. l } 6i l d i n g s an d
P r e m i s e s
M r s .
Br i d g e t p
e n t i c e : To as k t he
S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e
f o r
D e f e n c e
7 -
at w as t he t o t a!
e x p e n d i t u r e
o n n e w
b u i l d i n g s
an g , p r e m i s e s
b y hi s
D e p ar t m e n t
an d i t s
ag e n c i e s ;
an t i f he w i l l i n d i c at e
t he
s q u ar e
f o o t ag e o f n e w
o f f i c e
s p ac j i !
p u r c has e d o r
n e w l y r e n t e d i n e ac h o f t he l as t
f i v e
y e ar r
[ 4 ! l 47 1
I \ I r
)r b u t hn o t :
The
i n f o r m at i o n
i s n o t he l d
c e n t r al l y
an d
, 5Ou l d
b e
p r o v i d e d
o n l y at
d i s p r o p o r t i o n at e
c o s t .
/
I
A r m e d
F o r c e s
(S t r e n g t h)
/
,
/
M r .
D av I d
Cl ar k : To as k t he
/
D e f e n c e
w hat
w as t he
s t r e n g t h
o f t he
Br i t i s h
ar m e d
f o r c e s
On 1
A p r i l 1992 ; an d w hat w i l l b e i t s
s t r e n g t h o n
(a) 1
A p r i l 1999 an d
(b ) 1
A p r i l 2 000.
[ 41111J
M r .
S o am e s :
The t o t al
s e r v i c e
s t r e n g t h o f t he
r e g u l ar
an n e d
f o r c e s
On 1
A p r i l 1992 w as
302 . 400. The
e s t i m at e d
s t r e n g t h
o n 1
A p r i l 1999 an d I
A p r i l 2 000 i s
2 13, 500 f o r
e ac h
y e ar . Bo t h
f i g u r e s i n c l u d e
G u r k ha
s t r e n g t hs ,
Ro y al
M ar i n e s
an d
Qu e e n
A l e x an d r a
Ro y al Nav al
Nu r s i n g
S e r v i c e ,
an d
an
e l e m e n t
f o r
p e r s o n n e l
u n d e r g o i n g
t r ar n i n g .
I D I S
S c e p t r e
; \ I r .
Re d m o n d :
To as k t he
D d e n c e
w hat
w as t he
r e s u I t
o f hi s
i n v e s t i g at i o n s
i n t o an i n c i d e n t o n
b o ar d
H M S
S c e p t r e o n
2 2
J u l y ; an d i f he w i l l
m ak e a
s t at e m e n t .
[ 408 35]
M r .
S o am e s :
The
Ro y al
Nav y b o ar d o f
i n q u i r y i n t o
t he
i n c i d e n t
o n 2 2
J u l y , w he n t w o
p e ac e
d e m o n s t r at o r s
w e r e
ap p r e he n d e d
s ho r t l y af t e r
g ai n i n g ac c e s s t o i l l v f S
S c e p t r e ,
i d e n t i f i e d
t he n e e d t o
t i g ht e n
c e r t ai n
as p e c t s o f
t he
s p e c i f i c
s e c u r i t y
p r o c e d u r e s
r e l at i n g t o o u r n u c l e ar
hU D t e r
k i l l e r
s u b m ar i n e s .
Thi s has
b e e n
d o n e . I t al s o
r e . . ::o m m e n d e d
a
n u m b e r
o f
ad d i t i o n al
s e c u r i t y an d
. \
~ . . . . : . . _ ~ . - . . - . t . . . t : - - . . . . . . ~ ~ ~ . , v - " -
, ; - - . . ; . . . . . . . . . . . ~ ~ . . _ . . . . . " . -
_ . . . . . . . _ " _ ~ " _ h _ . . . " 4 . ~ . . - . . . . _ . . . . .
.
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. .
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1 7 OCTOBER
1 9 9 6
1 09 6
Eur at om
Tr e at y
I \ . l r . L I e w S mi t h : To as k t h e
S e c r e t ar y of S t at e J or
D e f e n c e w h at ac t i v i t i e s of h i s D e p ar t me n t
c ome ) ; f t h i n
t h e s c op e of t h e Eur at om
t r e at y .
.
[ 4 ! 2 9 7 J
Mr . S oame s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h on .
Me ~ r an d a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t h e
L w r ar y of t h e
H ous e .
/
/
War G r av e s
( Fr an 0
/
Mr . Bar r y J on e s : To as k t h e
Z e c r e t ar y of S t at e f or
D e f e n c e i f h e w i l l mak e a s t a1me n t c on c e r n i n g t h e
d e s e c r at i on of w ar
g r av e s i n n op h e m Fr an c e .
[ 4 1 2 5 6 }
Mr , S oame s : I w i l l
w r i t 7 ; { 0 t h e h on . Me mb e r an d a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r w i l l
b e / l ac e d i n t h e
L i b r ar y of t h e
H ous e .
/
.
/
/
?F
S e al an d
.
1 \ 1 r ,
Bar r y J on / s : To as k t h e
S e c r e t ar y of S t at e f or
D e f e n c e w h e n
h e . k x p e c t s a d e c i s i on on t h e mar k e t t e s t i n g
b i d s at RAP S e . x 1 an d ; an d i f h e w i l l mak e a s t at e me n t .
/
[ 4 1 2 5 7 J
I
Mr .
Ar b , n t h n ot : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h on . Me mb e r an d For e i g n Pol i c e Of f i c e r s
( Pow e r s )
a
c op y of Ah e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t h e
Mr . 1 \ l ad d e n : To as k t h e
H ous .
/ .
. . D e f e n c e b y
w h at aut h or i t y ( a) me mb e r s of v i s i t i n g f or c e s
/
an d ( b ) US s e c ur i t y p ol i c e of f i c e r s ar r e s t an d d e t ai n
D omi n i e
Ai r c r af t Con t r ac t s
Un i t e d K i n g d om c i t i z e n s on p ub l i c
h i g h w ay s f or
( i ) t h e f t
. J .
: : I n d ( i i ) ot h e r aH e g e d of f e n c e s
ag ai n s t Un i t e d
K i n g d om
, . ; r . Bar r y J on e s : To as k t h e
l aw .
[ 4 1 3 ~ 8 J
I 1 e f e n c e w h at
p r os p e c t s t h e r e ar e f or t h e Ray t h e on
. . , H aw k e r
j e t w or k f or c e at
Br oug h t on , FJ i n t s h i r e , ob t ai n i n g
Mr . S oame s : I w i l l w n t e t o t h e h on . Me mb e r
an d a
I c on t r ac t s t o s e r v i c e t h e ~ i l 0D s
D omi n i e ai r c r af t ; an d i f
c op y
of t h e l e t t e r w i I l b e p l ac e d i n t h e
L i b r ar y of
t h e /
h e w i l l mak e a
s t at e me n t .
[ - 1 1 2 5 8 ] H ous e .
I Mr . Ar b ut h n ot :
1 w i ! ! w r i t e t o t h e h on . Me mb e r an d
Ep i d e mi ol og y Re s e ar c h
Pr op os al s
; 1
a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r
w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t h e L i b r ar y of t h e
H ous e .
Mr . L l e w S mi t h : To as k t h e
S e c r e t ar y
of
S t ~ .
t f or
D e f e n c e . p ur s uan t t o h i s an s w e r of 1 7
J ul y t o t h
h on .
Me mb e r f or S out h D e r b y s h i r e
( Mr s .
Cur r i e ) ,
f f i c i al
Re p or t .
c ol umn s 5 3 2 - 3 3 ,
i ~
h e w i l l n ow mak e a
s t at e me n t
on t h e
out c ome of t h e Me d i c al
Re s e ar c h
Coun c i l
s e l e c t i on
p r oc e s s
on t h e 3 7 out l i n e
p r op os al s f or r e s e ar c h
i n t o
G ul f
w ar
s y n d r ome me n t i on e d i n h i s an s w e r .
[ 4 1 3 06 ]
Mr .
$oame s : I w B! w r i t e t o t h e h on .
Me mb e r
an d a
c op y
of t h e l e t t ~ r w i l l b e
p l ac e d i n t h e
H ous e .
an a~ e me n t me as ur e s t o mi n i mi s e t h e
p os s i b i l i t y of s uc h
I i n ; i d e n t h ap p e n i n g ag ai n . Man y of t h e s e h av e
al r e ad y
: e n p ut i n p l ac e , an d ot h J ~ r s ar e b e i n g ad d r e s s e d w i t h t h e
: e at e s t
ur g e n c y .
1 \ I r . N i c h ol as Re d f e r n
: \ l r . Re d mon d : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y of S t at e f or
\ e f e n c e i f h e w i l l 1 i s t t h e t i t l e s of t h e r e c or d s of t h e
f i n i s ! r ) of D e f e n c e s s c i e n t i f k i n t e l l i g e n c e b r an c h i n
: ~ p e c t of c or r e s p on d e n c e s e n t t o ( v I r . K i c h ol as
Re d f e r n
y
t h e Pub l i c Re c or d Of t c e . K e w n 2 1 S e p t e mb e r 1 9 9 0.
[ - 1 08 8 9 ]
1 \ l r . S oame s : I w i l l w r i t e t o h on . J \ l e mb e r an d a
c op y
, f
t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t h e L i b r ar y i n t h e H ous e .
Pe n i n s ul a Bar r ac k s , Wi n c h e s t e r
Mr . Fat c h e t t : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y of S t at e f or
) e f e n c e
( 1 )
w h e t h e r h i s D e p ar t me n t e n t e r e d i n t o an
, " r e e me n t w i t h t h e d e v e l op e r s of Pe n i n s ul a
b al Tac k s ,
, V i n c h e s t e r , s o t h at h i s D e p ar t me n t c oul d s h ar e i n
an y
; ai n ar i s i n g f r om d e v e l op me n t ; an d i f h e w i l l mak e a
t at e me n t ;
[ - 1 1 2 2 7 ]
( 2 ) i f h e w i l l s e t oU[ ( a) t h e p ur c h as e an d
( b ) t h e s al e
1 r e of Pe n i n s ul a b ar r ac k s , Wi n c h e s t e r .
[ - 1 1 2 2 8 ]
Mr . S oame s : I w w r i t e t o t h e h oo. Me mb e r aod a
: op y of t h e l e t t e r \ v i l l b e p l ac e d i n t h e L i b r ar y of t h e
H ous e .
Comb i n e d H e at an d Pow e r
Mr . Bat t l e : To as k t h e S e c r e t ar y of S t at e f or D e f e n c e
w h at c ap ac i t y of e l e c t r i c i t y us e d i n h i s D e p ar t me n t s
b ui l d i n g s i s g e n e r at e d i n a c omb i n e d h e at an d
p ow e r
p l an t ; an d w h at p l an s h e h as t o i n c r e as e t h at
c ap ac i t y .
[ 4 1 3 1 7 ]
Mr . Ar b ut h n ot : I w i J I w r i t e t o t h e h on . Me mb e r an d
a c op y
of t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t h e
H ous e .
5 - : 9
CW1 ~ . ?AG I I 9
"
.
.
Wr i t t e n An s w e r s
G ul f War
( Pe s t i c i d e s )
Mr . L l e w
S mi t h : To as k t h e
D e f e n c e
( 1 )
i f t h e
or g an op h os p h at e p e s t i c i d e D e n e n t on -
S - Me t h y l w as us e d
b y h i s D e p ar t me n t s
me d i c al
p e r s on n e l i n
Op e r at i on
G r an b y i n t h e G ul f w ar ; [ - 1 1 2 9 3 ]
( 2 ) p ur s uan t t o t h e l e t t e r f r om t h e Mi n i s t e r of S t at e f or
t h e Ar me d For c e s t o t h e h on . Me mb e r f or B! ae n au G w e n ! ,
on 4 Oc t ob e r . i f h e w i ! ! n ow c or r e c t h i s an s w e r of I I J ul v
1 9 9 4 ,
Of f i c i al Re p or t , c ol umn 4 3 6 . on t h e us e f
p e s t i c i d e s
d ur i n g t h e G ul f w ar .
[ . . 1 1 2 9 4 ]
Mr . S oame s : r w i ! ! w r i t e t o t h e h on . Me mb e r an d a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e
p l ac e d i n t h e
H ous e .
A3 1 9 Tan k e r Ai r b us
Mr . Bar r y J on e s : To as k t h e
D e f e n c e w h at
p l an s h i s D e p ar t me n t h as t o p ur c h as e
Br i t i s h Ae r os p ac e s
p l an n e d A3 1 9 t an k e r ai r b us ; an d i f h e
w i l l mak e a s t at e me n t .
[ . . I 1 2 5 9 J
Mr .
Ar b ut h n ot :
I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h on . Me mb e r an d
a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r \ v i H b e p l ac e d i n t h e
H ous e . ,
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ANNEX A TO
D/SEC(AS) /64/4
. . ;. ,
DATED OCT 96
DRAFT REPLY FROM MINISTER(AF) TO MARTIN REDMOND MP
D/Min(AF)/ October 1996
I am writing as promised in
my
answers of 17 October to your
questions (Official Report,col 1092,
copy attached) about the
functions of a number of Defence Intelligence branches.
It has been the policy of successive Governments not to provide
information on the functions of individual intelligence branches
when this discloses the more recent nature of their duties.
I shall arrange for a
copy
of this letter to be placed in the
Library of the House.
THE HON NICHOLAS SOAMES
Martin Redmond Esq. MP
A- I
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1 0 9 1
.
W r i t l e n A n s w e r s 1 7 OCTOBER 1 9 9 6 W r i t l e n A n s w e r s 1 0 9 2
(3) w h a t r e s e a r c h h a s b e e n c o n d u c t e d o n b e h a l f o f h i s
D e p a r t m e n t b y
t h e n a t i o n a l p o i s o n s i n f o n n a t i o n s e r v i c e
i n t o t h e c a u s e s o f G u l f w a r s y n d r o m e . [ 4 1 2 9 2 J
Mr . S o a m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r s a n d a
c o p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i ! ! b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y
o f t h e
H o u s e .
Mr . N i c h o l a s P o p e
l v l r . Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e t o . . . . . h a r p o s t Mr . N i c h o l a s P o p e w a s a p p o i n t e d
b y
h i s D e p a r t m e n t a f t e r h i s t o u r o f d u t y w i t h S e c r e t a r a t
(A i r S t a f f ) D e p a r t m e n t 2 : \ . : a n d i f h e w i H m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t [ 4 0 9 2 0 J
l \ . l r . S o a m e s : Mr . N i c h o l a s P o p e w a s p o s t e d o n
p r o m o t i o n t w o y e a r s a g o t o a g e n e r a ! f i n a n c e p o l i c y
b r a n c h .
U r a n i u m - t i p p e d S h e l l s
D r . D a \ i d Cl a r k : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e c u r r e n t r i s k
p o s e d t o c i v i l i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e l l s i n K u w a i t . [ 4 ] 1 0 1
J
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : My D e p a r t m e n t h a s c o n d u c t e d n o
f o n n a l a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r i s k s t o c i v i l i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d
d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d a m m u n i t i o n i n K u w a i t .
D r . Cl a r k : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t c o n c e r n i n g t h e r i s k t o s o l d i e r s
o f h a n d l i n g d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e I 1 s . [ 4 1 1 0 0 ]
Mr . S o a m e s : D e p l e t e d u r a n i u m h a s a v e r y l o w l e v e l
o f r a d i o a c t i v i t y a n d t h e r i s k s a t t a c h e d t o t h e h a n d l i n g o f
d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m a m m u n i t i o n a r e m i n i m a l .
w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e 1 9 9 1 A t o m i c En e r g y /
A u t h o r i t y r e p o r t o n i n d u s t r i a ! t e c h n o l o g y c o n c e r n i n g t h e
r i s k o f e x p o s u r e t o e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e l l s . [ 4 1 ! O2 ]
Mr . S o a m e s : I r e f e r t h e h o n . Me m b e r t o t h e l e t t e r s e n t
b y m y
n o b l e F r i e n d t h e U n d e r - S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r Bl a e n a u G w e n t
(Mr . S m i t h ) o n 7 A u g u s t 1 9 9 6 . a
c o p y
o f w h i c h h a s b e e n
p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y o f t h e H o u s e .
h o w m a n y d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p ; d s h e l l s w e r e f i r e d b y
Br i t i s h f o r c e s d u r i n g t h e G u l f w a r ; a n d w h a t a s s e s s m e n t
h e h a s m a d e o f t h e n u m b e r o f e x p l o d e d s h e l l s r e m a i n i n g
i n K u w a i t . [ 4 1 0 9 9 J
Mr . S o a m e s : Br i t i s h f o r c e s f i r e d s o m e 8 8 d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m s h e l l s d u r i n g t h e G u l f c o n t l i c t . Th e Mi n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e h a s m a d e n o a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e n u m b e r o f
e x p l o d e d s h e l l s r e m a i n i n g i n K u w a i t , a s w e j u d g e
t h e r i s k
t o h u m a n h e a l t h p o s e d b y
D U r o u n d s t o b e n e g l i g i b l e . I t
i s l i k e l y . t h o u g h . t h a t a l a r g e p r o p o r t i o n o f t h e 8 8 s h e l l s
w a s e x p e n d e d i n I r a q r a t h e r t h a n K u w a i t .
Mr . L I e w S m i t h : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t s t u d i e s h a v e b e e n c o n d u c t e d
b y
h i s
D e p a r t m e n t i n t o t h e n e p h r o t o x i c i t y o f t h e i n h a l a t i o n o f
u r a n i u m p a r t i c l e s . 1 4 1 2 9 6 J
, ; 7 c y . . - l P A G l n
Mr . S o a m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r a n d a
c o p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y o f t h e
H o u s e .
Ma r r i e d Q u a r t e r s Es t a t e
Mr . S p e H a r : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
w h a t a r e t h e l o c a t i o n s o f t h e h o u s e s f r o m t h e m a r r i e d
q u a r t e r s . e s t a t e t h a t h a v e b e e n r e i e a s e d t o l u Tn g t o n
H o m e s f o r i m m e d i a t e u s e
b y
t h e p r i v a t e s e c t o r .
1 4 0 9 31
]
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . r - . 1 e m b e r a n d
a
c o p y
H o u s e .
R- \ F Ru d l o e Ma n o r
Mr . Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t w o r k i s c u r r e n t l y u n d e r t a k e n a t RA F
Ru d l o e Ma n o r ; w h a t w o r k w a s u n d e r t a k e n i n t h e l a s t
1 0 y e a r s ; w h a t w a s , b y r a n k . t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t f o r t h e l a s t
1 0 y e a r s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 0 8 2 3
]
c o p y
H o u s e .
D e f e n c e I n t e l l i g e n c e Br a n c h e s
, D e f e n c e
(1 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 5 5 S I G :
/
w h a t w a s i t s f u n c t i o n (a ) f i v e v e a r s a n d (b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ;
a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e ~ t ;
.
(4 1 0 4 0 ]
(2 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 6 5 B; w h a t w a s i t s
f u n c t i o n (a ) f i v e y e a r s a n d (b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ . . . 1 0 38 J
(3)
w h a t i s t h e Cu r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 5 S ; w h a t w a s i t s
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 I J
(4 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 6 1 E; w h a t w a s i t s
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 37 J
(5 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I I 0 ; w h a t w a s i t s
f u n c t i o n (a ) f i v e y e a r s a n d (b j 1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s . t a t e m e n t . [ 4 1 0 39 J
Mr . S o a m e s : I w i l l . . . . ; r i t e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r a n d a
c o p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t h e
H o u s e .
U n i d e n t i f i e d F l )i n g Ob j e c t s
Mr . Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y
o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e (1 ) w h a t c o n s u l t a t i o n h a s t a k e n p l a c e i n e a c h o f
t h e l a s t f i v e y e a r s b y h i s D e p a n m e n t w i t h t h e F r e n c h
Mi n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e Ce n t r e ~ a t i o n a l d Et u d e s
S p a t i a l e s
i n
r e s p e c t o f u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g o b j e c t s ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ . . . 1 0 4 8 J
(2 )
i f a l o d g e r u n i t h o u s e d w i t h i n h i s D e p a r t m e n t s
F l y i n g Co m p l a i n t s Ri g h t s p e c a l i s e s i n u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e c t i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ; a n d i f h e w i ! ! m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 36 J
(3)
h o w m a n y r e c o r d s c u r r e n t l y h e l d
b y
h i s
D e p a r t m e n t s S c i e n t i f i c I n t e l l i g e n c e Br a n c h a r e u n d e r
e x t e n d e d c l o s u r e f o r
(a ) 5 0 y e a r s . (b ) 7 5 y e a r s a n d (c ) I { )()
y e a r s ; h o w m a n y o f t h e s e r e c o r d s r e f e r t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g o b j e c t s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 0 9 1 I ]
- ,
.
ANNEX B TO
D/SEC(AS)/64/4
DATED
OCT
96
DRAFT LETTER FROM MINISTER(AF) TO MARTIN REDMOND MP
I said I would write to you in response to your recent
Parliamentary Question (Official Report, 17 October, Col_ 1092,
copy
attached).
RAF Rudloe Manor consists of a parent unit and five lodger units:
No 1 Signals Unit
-
providing voice and data communications
for MOD, RN, Army and RAF establishments throughout the
country.
Detachment of 1001 Signals Unit
-
operating the UK military
communications satellIte system. No 1001 SU comprises
several sites, one of which is located at RAF Rudloe Manor.
Headquarters Provost and Security Services
(UK)
-
a RAF unit
commanding the six geographical P&SS Regions within the UK.
Headquarters Provost and Security Services (Western Region)
-
providing specialist Police and Security support to all RAF
establishments within the West Midlands, the West Country and
South and Mid Wales.
Controller Defence Communications Network
-
a tri- service
unit controlling world wide defence communications.
Rudloe Manor also has a parenting responsibility for B ristol
University Air Squadron and No 3 Air Experience Flight, which
operate from the airfield at Colerne.
B - 1
. ,
The role of the station over the last 10 years has not varied,
although some of the lodger units have changed:
a. No 1001 Detachment formed in Oct 91.
b . No 1 SU carne into existence in Apr 93, forming from a
staff organisation which originally arrived in Nov 85.
c.
HQ P&SS(WR) formed in Apr 93, and HQ P&SS (Southern
Region), which was then at RAF Rudloe Manor, moved to RAF
Halton in 1995.
d. No 6 SU, a message switching unit, closed in
Oct 94.
Information on the estab lishment of the station is not availab le
for security reasons in th~ form requested. However, I can tell
you that it comprises 557 Service and 225 civilian personnel.
copy
of this letter to b e placed in the
Lib rary of the House.
B - 2
I
, ,
J 0 9 !
W r i t t e n A n s w e r s 1 7 Ocr OBER 1 9 9 6 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s 1 M2
( 3 )
w h a t r e s e a r ch h a s b e e n co n d u ct e d o n b e h a l f o f h i s
t h e n a t i o n a l p o i s o n s i n f o n n a t i o n s e r v i ce
i n t o t h e ca u s e s o f G u l f w a r s y n d r o m e , [ 4 1 29 2)
Mr . S o a m e s : I w i I ! w r i t e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r s a n d a
co p y o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a ce d i n t h e L i b r a r y
o f t h e
H o u s e .
Mr . ~ i ch o l a s P o p e
Mr . Re d m o n d : T o a s k t h e S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n ce t o w h a t p o s t Mr . N i ch o l a s P o p e w a s a p p o i n t e d
b y h i s D e p a r t m e n t a f t e r h i s l Ou r o f d u t y w i t h S e cr e t a r i a t
( A i r S t a f f ) D e p a r t m e n t 2A : a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 0 9 20 )
Mr . S o a m e s : Mr . N i ch o l a s P o p e w a s p o s t e d o n
p r o m o t i o n t w o y e a r s a g o t o a g e n e r a l f i n a n ce p o l i cy
b r a n ch .
D r . D a v i d C l a r k : T o a s k t h e S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n ce w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e cu r r e n t r i s k
p o s e d t o C v i i i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e l l s i n K u w a i t . [ 4 1 1 0 1 J
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : 1 y D e p a r t m e n t h a s co n d u ct e d n o
f o r m a l a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r i s k s t o ci v i l i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d
d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d a m m u n i t i o n i n K u w a i t .
D r . C l a r k : T o a s k t h e S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n ce
i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t co n ce r n i n g t h e r i s k t o s o l d i e r s
o f h a n d l i n g d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e l l s . [ 4 1 1 0 0 ]
Mr . S o a m e s : D e p l e t e d u r a n i u m h a s a
v e r y
l o w l e v e l
o f r a d i o a ct i v i t y a n d t h e r i s k s a t t a ch e d t o t h e h a n d l i n g o f
w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e 1 9 9 1 A t o m i c En e r g y
A u t h o r i t y r e p o r t o n i n d u s t r i a ! t e ch n o l o g y co n ce r n i n g t h e
s h e l l s . [ 4 1 1 0 2]
Mr . S o a m e s : I r e f e r t h e h o n . Me m b e r t o t h e l e t t e r s e n t
b y m y
n o b l e F r i e n d t h e U n d e r - S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n ce t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r Bl a e n a u G w e n t
( Mr . S m i t h ) o n 7 A u g u s t ! 9 9 6 , a
co p y
o f w h i ch h a s b e e n
p l a ce d i n t h e L i b r a r y o f t h e H o u s e .
h o w m a n y d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e l l s w e r e f i r e d b y
Br i t i s h f o r ce s d u r i n g t h e G u l f w a r ; a n d w h a t a s s e s s m e n t
i n K u w a i t . [ 4 1 0 9 9 J
Mr . S o a m e s : Br i t i s h f o r ce s f i r e d s o m e 8 8 d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m s h e l l s d u r i n g t h e G u l f co n f l i ct . T h e Mi n i s t r y o f
D e f e n ce h a s m a d e n o a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e n u m b e r o f
t h e r i s k
t o h u m a n h e a l t h p o s e d b y D U r o u n d s t o b e n e g l i g i b l e . I t
i s l i k e l y , t h o u g h , t h a t a l a r g e p r o p o r t i o n o f t h e 8 8 s h e l l s
l \ 1 r . L I e w S m i t h : T o a s k t h e S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n ce w h a t s t u d i e s h a v e b e e n co n d u ct e d
b y
h i s
D e p a r t m e n t i n t o t h e n e p h r o t o x i ci t y o f t h e i n h a l a t i o n o f
u r a n i u m p a r t i cl e s . [ 4 1 29 6 }
~ 7 C W I 4 6 - P A G I ! 7
co p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a ce d i n t h e
H o u s e .
Mr . S p e H a r : T o a s k t h e
S e cr e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n ce
\ 1 , h a t a r e t h e l o ca t i o n s o f t h e h o u s e s f r o m t h e m a r r i e d
q u a r t e r s e s t a t e t h a t h a v e b e e n r e l e a s e d t o A r r i n g t o n
H o m e s f o r i m m e d i a t e u s e b y t h e p r i v a t e s e ct o r . [ 4 0 9 3 !
1
Mr . A r b u t h n o t : I w w r i t e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r a n d
a
co p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a ce d i n t h e L i b r a r y o f t h e
H o u s e .
RA F Ru d l o e Ma n o r
D e f e n ce w h a t w o r k i s cu r r e n t l y u n d e r t a k e n a t RA F
Ru d I o e Ma n o r ; w h a t w o r k w a s u n d e r t a k e n i n t h e l a s t
1 0 y e a r s ; w h a t w a s , b y r a n k . t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t f o r t h e l a s t
1 0 y e a r s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 0 8 23 ]
co p y
H o u s e .
D e f e n ce I n t e l l i g e n ce Br a n ch e s
D e f e n ce
( 1 )
w h a t i s t h e cu r r e n t f u n ct i o n o f D I 5 5 S I G ;
w h a t w a s i t s f u n ct i o n ( G ) f i v e y e a r s a n d ( b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ;
a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 0 1
( 2) w h a t i s t h e cu r r e n t f u n ct i o n o f D 1 6 5 B; w h a t w a s i t s
f u n ct i o n ( a ) f i v e y e a r s a n d ( b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 3 8 J
( 3 )
w h a t i s t h e cu r r e n t f u n ct i o n o f D I 5 5 ; w h a t w a s i t s
f u n ct i o n
( a )
f i v e y e a r s a n d
( b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a r n : t i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 1 ]
( 4 ) w h a t i s t h e cu r r e n t f u n ct i o n o f D I 6 1 E; w h a t w a s i t s
f u n ct i o n ( a )
f i v e y e a r s a n d ( b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 3
]
( 5 ) w h a t i s t h e cu r r e n t f u n ct i o n o f D I l O; W h a t w a s i t s
f u n ct i o n ( a ) f i v e y e a r s a n d ( b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i J !
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 1 0 3 9 J
co p y
H o u s e .
U n i d e n t i f i e d F J ) - i n g Ob j e ct s
D e f e n ce ( l ) w h a t co n s u l t a t i o n h a s t a k e n p l a ce i n e a ch o f
t h e l a s t f i v e y e a r s b y
h i s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t h e F r e n ch
Mi n i s t r y o f D e f e n ce C e n t r e N a t i o n a l d Et u d e s
S p a t i a l e s
i n
r e s p e ct o f u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g o b j e ct s ; a n d i f h e w i l l
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 8 J
( 2)
F l y i n g C o m p l a i n t s F l i g h t s p e ci a l i s e s i n u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e ct i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ; a n d i f h e w i n m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 3 6 J
( 3 )
h o w m a n y r e co r s cu r r e n t l y h e l d
b y
h i s
D e p a r t m e n t s S ci e n t i f i c I n t e l l i g e n ce Br a n ch a r e u n d e r
e x t e n d e d cl o s u r e f o r ( a ) 5 0 y e a r s , ( b ) 7 5 y e a r s a n d ( e ) 1 0 0
y e a r s ; h o w m a n y o f t h e s e r e co r d s r e f e r t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g o b j e ct s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 0 9 ! 1 ]
. ,
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ANNEX C TO
D/SEC lAS)/64/4
DATED OC T 96
DRAFT LETTER FROM US of S TO MARTIN REDMOND MP
D/USofS)/ October 1996
In response to a nu m ber of Qu estions you recently a sked a bou t
UFO
m a tters (Officia l Reportr cols 1092-1093 a nd 1095, copies
a tta ched) Nichola s Soa m es sa id tha t he wou ld be writing to you . I
a m r howeverr replying a s the Minister responsible for these
issu es. A fu ll list of the Qu estions is a tta ched a t Annex. I
ha ve a dded a sepa ra te nu m ber sequ ence from one to fifteen a nd u se
this in the following pa ra gra phs for ea se of reference a nd
cla rifica tion.
The MOD s interest in u nexpla ined a eria l phenom ena
(Qu estion 1)
is lim ited to whether the UK Air Defence Region m ight
ha ve been com prom ised. Unless there is a ny evidence tha t this is
the ca se, a nd to da te no sighting ha s provided su ch evidencer we
do not investiga te fu rther or seek to provide a n expla na tion for
wha t m ight ha ve been observed. We ha ve no expertise or role with
respect to UFO/flying sa u cer m a tters a ndr so fa r a s the
existence or otherwise of extra terrestria l lifeform s is concernedr
we rem a in open m inded bu t know of nothing tha t proves they exist.
Ou r policy in this respect ha s not cha nged du ring the la st thirty
yea rs.
RAF Sta nding Instru ctions (Qu estion 2) requ ire a ll RAF
sta tion C om m a nders to forwa rd reports of a ll
UFO
sightings
",
.,
,
whether made
by
members of the public or on - duty service
person n el
to the Secretariat (Air Staff), Bran ch 2a. Sec(AS)2a look at all
UFO
sightin g reports (Question 3) whether military or civilian
reported. Reports are assessed in con sultation with other MOD
bran ches as required to determin e whether there is an y defen ce
in terest in what has been reported. Over the last twelve mon ths
there has been on e in stan ce of an on - duty member of the services
reportin g an un explain ed aerial
sightin g, an d this was n ot
judged to be of an y sign ifican ce.
We have n o eviden ce (Question
4) that an y structured craft of
un kn own origin has pen etrated the UKs
Air Defen ce Region . I am
un able to provide the in formation
you seek about reports of
alleged lan din gs (Question 5) sin ce records are main tain ed
on ly of
UFO
sightin g reports which are n ot broken down further in to
specific categories.
You ask at Question s 2a, 2b an d 6 - 1 2 about collaboration an d
con sultation with a n umber of foreign govern men ts.
My Departmen t
has regular discussion s with a n umber of coun tries on a wide ran ge
of topics of mutual in terest but such discussion s have n ot
exten ded to UFO/flyin g saucer
issues or the existen ce or
otherwise of extraterrestrial life forms.
I can con firm (Question 1 3) that
my Departmen ts
Scien tific
I n telligen ce Bran ch holds n o records un der exten ded closure for
an y period in excess of 30 years. So far as the in formation
sought at Question 1 4 is con cern ed, the PRO has con firmed that the
class list givin g details of preserved records is available to
researchers at Kew.
. .
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Finally, I can also confirm (Question 15) that there is no
unit within the Flying Complaints Flight (FCF) based at RAF Rudloe
Manor (or anywhere else) specialising in investigations into
unidentified flying objects. I should add that despite continuing
misunderstandings about the role of RAF Rudloe Manor in
alleged
UFO
investigations, the station is not and never has been
involved in this way.
I shall arrange for a copy of this letter to be placed in the
The Earl Howe

Martin Redmond MP
,
~ .
. .
W r i r c e n A n s w e r s 1 0 9 2
,
0 .
F l y i n g Obje d s
Mr .
Re d mon d : To a s k t h e
D e f e n c e
( ! ) w h a t
c on s u l t a t i on h a s r a k e n p l a c e i n e a c h of
t h e l a s t f J v e
y e a r s
by h i s
D e p a r t me n t w i t h t h e F r e n c h
Mi n i s t r y of D e f e :1 c e
C e n t r e :. - i a t i on a l d E t u d e s
S p a t i a b
i n .
r e s p e c t of u n i d e mi f J e d
r 1 y i n g obje c t s : a n d i f h e w i ! !
ma k e a
s t a t e me :1 t :
[ . J . J ~ 8 ;
P 5 .
( :2 ) i f a l od g e r u n i t h ou s e d w h i n h i s
D e ; J a r t me n t s
F l y i n g C omp l a i n t s
Ri g h t s p e c i a J i s e s i n u n i d e n t i f i e d
f 1 y i n g
obje c t
i n v e s t i g a t i on s :
a n d i f h e w i H ma k e a s t a t e me n t :
[ " 1 0 3 6 1
( 3 ) h ow
ma n y r e c or d s
c u r r e n t l y h e l d
by h i s
S c i e n t i f i c
I n r e l 1 i g e n c e B r a n c h a r e u n d e r
e x t e n d e d c l os u r e f or
( a ) 5 0 Y e a r s . I b} 7 5 y e a r s a n d
( C ) 1 0 0
y e a r s : h ow
ma n y of t h e s e
r e c or d s r e f e ~ t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g obje c t s : a n d i f h e w i 1 J ma k e a s t a t e me n t : [ 4 0 9 1 1
J
\ ? , .
1 0 9 5 W r i r t e n A n S N e r s
1 4 -
:\ f r . N i c h ol a s Re d f e r n
Mr . Re d mon d : To a s k t h e
D e f e n c e i f h e w i H l i s t t h e t i t l e s or t h e r e c or d s of t h e
Mi n i s t r y of D e f e :1 c e
s s c i e n t i f i c i me J I i g e n c e br a n c h i n
r e s p e c t
of
c or r e s p on d e n c e
s e m t o \ 1 r . ~ jc h o s Re d f e r n
bv t h e P u bl i c Re c or d
Of f i c e , Ke w on 2 1 S e p t e mbe r 1 9 9 0 .
-
[ . . 0 8 3 9 ]
l \ I r . S oa me s ; r w i I ! w r i t e t o h oo. :V l e mbe r a n d a
c op y
of t h e ! e n e r w i I I be
L i br a r y
i n t h e H ou s e .
1 7 Oc r OB E R
1 9 9 6
1 0 9 3
W r i t t e n
A n s w e r s
t \ .
( 4 ) w h a t
p l a c e i n e a c h of t h e l a s ,
f i v e
y e a r s
by h i s
D e p a r t me n t w i t h t h e
Roy a l A u s t r a l i a n
a i r f or c e i n r e s p e c t of u n i d e mi f i e d
f l y i n g obje c t s : a n d i f
h e w i l l ma k e a s t a t e me n t ;
[ " 1 0 . . . :)
( 5 ) w h a t
c on s u l t a t i on h a s t a . 1 . ; ; :e n
f i v e
y e a r s
by h i s
S p a n i s h Mi n i s t r y
of D e f e n c e
s i n t e mg e n c e s e c t i on of t h e
S p a n i s h a i r f or c e s
a i r
op e r a t i on s c omma n d i n r e s p e c t of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
obje c t s : a n d i f h e w jJ j ma . l c e a
s t a t e me n t :
[ 4 1 0 5 0 ]
1 .
L
( 6 ) i f h e w i 1 l ma k e s t a t e me n t
on h i s
p ol i c y t ow a r d s
f l y i n g obje c t s a n d on h ow t h i s
h a s
d e v e l op e d
d u r i n g t h e p a s t 3 0
y e a r s ;
[ 4 0 9 1 3 J
( 7 ) w h a t
c o- op e r a t i on t h e n ~ i s be t w e e n
t h e Roy a l A i r
F or c e a n d t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s a i r f or c e i n r e s p e c t of
e s t a bi i s h i n g
t h e f a c t s r e l a t i n g t o
f l v i n ! !
obje c t s : a n d i f h e w i l l ma k e a
s t a t e me n t ;
[ . . !
9 1 8 ]
( 8 ) h ow
ma n y a l l e g e d l a n d i n g s
by u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
obje c t s h a v e be e n r e c or d e d i n e a c h
y e a r s i n c e 1 9 8 0 a n d
t h i s v e a r t o d a t e : h ow ma n v h a v e be e n
i n v e s t i g a t e d bv h i s
D e p . mme n t s
p e r s on n e l : ; h i c h
of t h e s e h a d be e n r :( a c e
by r a d a r a n d w i t h w h a t r e s u l t ; a n d i f h e w i l l ma k e a
s t a t e me n t ;
[ . . 1 0 9 2 1 ]
b.
5 . .
6 .
( 9 ) w h a t
f i v e
y e a r s
by h i s
D e p a r t me n t w i t h t h e I t a l i a n
Mi n i s t r y of
D e f e n c e a i r f or c e g e n e r a l s t a f f ( 2 .
D e D a r t me n t ) i n r e S D e c t
of
u n i d e n t i f i e d f 1
i n g obje c t s : a n d
i f
h e w i I I ma k e a
s t a t e me n t ;
[ 4 1 ( 4 9 )
2 .
( 1 0 ) w h a t
i n s t r u c t i on s h a v e
be e n s e n t t o t h e
c omma n d e r s
of Roy a l A i r F or c e s t a t i on s t o c ol l e c t
r e ? or t s
f r om a i r c r e w s
h a v i n g a l l e g e d l y
s i g h t e d u n i d e n t i f i e d
t l y i n g obje c t s : w h a t
i n q u i r i e s h a v e be e n h e l d f oI J ow i n g
s u c h
s i g h t i n g s : t o w h a t e x t e n t t h e r e h a s be e n c ol l a bor a ( jon
be t w e e n
h i s
D e ? a r t me n t a n d
d e p a r t me n t s i n ( a ) C a n a d a
a n d ( b; t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s of A me r i c a on t h i s
p r obl e m: a n d
i f h e w i J I ma k e a s t a t e me n t :
[ . 1 0 9 1 - : ]
( 1 1 ) w h a t
l a s t f i v e
y e a r s
by h i s
D e p a r t me n t
w i t h :; . { e w Z e a l a n d s
:V 1 i n i s t r y or D e f e n c e i n r e s p e c t of
f l y i n g
obje c t s : a n d i f h e w i l l ma k e a s t a t e me n t ;
[ 4 1 0 l 3 ]
( 2 ) w h a t
! a s t f i v e v e a r s bv h i s
P or t u g u e s e
~ l i n i s t r y of D e f ~ n c e
s joi n t s t a f f of t h e a r me d f r c e s
i n r e 1 l
g e n c e d i v i s i on i n r e s p e c t of
f l y i n g
obje c t s : a n d i f h e w i 1 1 ma k e a s t a t e me n t :
[ . 1 1 0 5 1 J
( 1 3 ) h ow
ma n y i n s t a n c e s of
f l y i n g obje c t s
h a v e
be e n
r e p or t e d on
by , h e d e f e n c e
s e r v i c e s or t h e
C n i t e d
Ki n g om d u r i n g t h e l a s t 1 2 mon t h s : w h a r
s t e p s
a r e , a k e n t o c o- or d i n a t e s u c h
obs e r v a t i on s :
a n d i f h e w i I l
ma k e a
s t a t e me n t :
( 4 0 9 1 0 )
1 2 .
1 .
3 .
4 . . ( J 4 ) i f h e w i l l l i s t
by y e a r r or t h e l a s t 3 0 y e a r s h ow
ma n y
s t r u c t u r e d
c r a f t of u n k n ow n
or i g i n h a y e
p e n e t r a t e d
t h e
U n i t e d
Ki n g d om s
a i r d e f e n c e
r e g i on : a n d i f h e w i J 1
ma k e a
s t a t e me n t .
[ . 1 0 9 1 9 ]
Mr .
S oa me s :
I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h on .
Me mbe r a n d a
c op y of t h e l e t t e r w i l l be p l a c e d i n t h e L i br a r v of t h e
H ou s e .

.
, .
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W r i t t e n A . n s w e r s 16 OCTOBER 1996
922
D r . L i a m F o x : Th e M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e , F o r e i g n a n d
Co m m o n w e a l t h Of f i c e ,
m y r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e M e m b e r
f o r Ri c h m o n d a n d Ba r n e s ( M r . H a n l e y) , s h a H w r i t e t o t h e
h o n . M e m b e r s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d
i n t h e L i b r a r i e s o f t h e H o u s e .
F i ) i n g Ob j e c t s
M r . Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
F o r e i g n a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s
( 1)
w h a t c o n s u l t a t i o n
h a s t a k e n
p l a c e i n e a c h o f t h e l a s t f i v e ye : J r s
b y h i s
D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t h e F r e n c h S e r v i c e d e D o c u m e n t a t i o n
Ex t e r i e u r e t d e Co m r e - Es p i o n n a g e i n r e s p e c t o f
f l yi n g o b j e c t s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t ;
{ 4 0 9i O]
( 2) i f h e w i 11 l i s t
b y m o n t h f o r e a c h o f t h e l a s t 10 ye a r s ,
a n d t h i s
ye a r t o d a t e , t h e n u m b e r o f o c c a s i o n s t h a t M 16
h a s m o n i t o r e d u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l yi n g o b j e c t s i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ;
a n d i f h e w m m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 0 98 1}
b y m o n t h f o r e a c h o f t h e l a s t 10 ye a r s
a n d t h i s ye a r t o d a t e t h e n u m b e r o f o c c a s i o n s o n w h i c h t h e
G o v e r n m e n t
Co m m u n i c a t i o n s h e a d q u a r t e r s h a s m o n i t o r e d
f l yi n g o b j e c t i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ; a n d i f h e w
[ 4 0 922]
M r . D a v i d D a v i s : I s h a l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r
s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r i e s
Co n s u l t a n t s
M r . M i l b u r n : To a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n
a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t a r e h i s l a t e s t e s t i m a t e s
o f t h e e x p e n d i t u r e o n a l l e x t e r n a l c o n s u l t a n t s , i n c l u d i n g
m a n a g e m e n t c o n s u l t a n t s , f o r e a c h ye a r s i n c e 1992, i n
1996 p r i c e s , f o r h i s D e p a r t m e n t a n d i t s a g e n c i e s ; a n d w h a t
a r e t h e
q u a n t i f i e d a n n u a l c o s t s a v i n g s w h i c h s u c h
e x p e n d i t u r e h a s r e s u l t e d i n .
{ 4 ! t i 8 ]
Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s Of f i c e ,
m y r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e
M e m b e r f o r Ri c h m o n d a n d Ba r n e s ( M r . H a n l e y) , s h a l l
w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w m
b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r i e s o f t h e H o u s e .
Ne w Bu i l d i n g s a n d P r e m i s e s
M r s . Br i d g e t P r e n t i c e : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r F o r e i g n a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t w a s t h e t o t a l
e x p e n d i t u r e o n n e w b u i l d i n g s a n d p r e m i s e s b y h i s
D e p a r t m e n t a n d i t s a g e n c i e s ; a n d i f h e w i l l i n d i c a t e t h e
s q u a r e f o o t a g e o f n e w o f f i c e s p a c e p u r c h a s e d o r n e w l y
r e n t e d i n e a c h o f t h e l a s t f i v e ye a r s . [ 4 114 4 ]
Co m m o n w e a l t h
Of f i c e ,
f o r Ri c h m o n d a n d Ba r n e s ( ! v i r . H a n l e y) , s h a l l w r i t e t o t h e
Te l e p h o n e I n t e r c e p t i o n s
M r . Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e
F o r e i g n a n d
Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s i f h e w m l i s t f o r e a c h
o f t h e l a s t 12 m o n t h s t h e n u m b e r o f
( a ) i n t e r c e p t i o n s a n d
( b ) m o n i t o r i n g s o f t e l e p h o n e c a l l s
( i ) e n t e r i n g o r
( i i ) l e a v i n g t h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m , t h r o u g h t h e j o i n t
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h e a d q u a r t e r s - Na t i o n a l
S e c u r i t y A g e n c y a g r e e m e n t ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 4 0 97 1J
D r . L i a m F o x : Th e M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e ,
F o r e i g n a n d
f o r Ri c h m o n d a n d Ba r n e s ( M r . H a n l e y) , s h a l l w r i t e t o t h e
h o n . M e m b e r s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i 11 b e p l a c e d
Nu c l e a r
W e a p o n s
M r . A u s t i n M i t c h e l l : To a s k t h e
F o r e i g n a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t a s s e s s m e n t
h e
h a s m a d e o f t h e i m p l i c a t i o n s f o r U n i t e d K i n g d o m
p o l i c y
o n t h e u s e o f n u c l e a r w e a p o n s o f t h e d e c i s i o n o f t h e
I n t e r n a t i o n a l Co u r t o f J u s t i c e o n n u c l e a r w e a p o n s .
[ 4 1224 J
M r . D a v i d D a v i s : 1 s h a l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r
Co m b i n e d H e a t a n d P o w e r
M r . Ba t t l e : To a s k t h e
F o r e i g n
a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t
c a p a c i t y o f e l e c t r i c i t y
u s e d i n h i s D e p a r t m e n t s
b u i l d i n g s i s g e n e r a t e d i n a
c o m b i n e d h e a t a n d p o w e r p l a n t ; a n d w h a t p l a n s h e h a s t o
i n c r e a s e t h a t c a p a c i t y.
[ 4 13 2J ]
D r . L i a m F o x : Th e M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e ,
F o r e i g n a n d
h o n . M e m b e r s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l I b e p l a c e d
D EF ENCE
Re l i g i o u s D i s c r i m i n a t i o n ( Ca t e r i c k
Ca m p )
M r . G a b r a i t h : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t r e p o r t s h e h a s r e c e i v e d o f r e l i g i o u s
d i s c r i m i n a t i o n a t Ca t t e r i c k
c a m p d u r i n g J u n e a n d J u l y;
a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t .
[ 4 0 7 6 6 J
M r . S o a m e s : Th e r e h a v e b e e n n o r e p o r t e d i n c i d e n t s o f
r e l i g i o u s d i s c r i m i n a t i o n a t Ca t t e r i c k Ca m p d u r i n g J u n e
a n d J u l y. H o w e v e r , w e t r e a t a n y a l l e g a t i o n s o f
d i s c r i m i n a t i o n
e x t r e m e l y s e r i o u s l y a n d i f t h e h o n .
M e m b e r c a n p r o v i d e a n y i n f o n n a t i o n w h i c h s u g g e s t s t h a t
r e l i g i o u s d i s c r i m i n a t i o n h a s t a k e n p l a c e a t Ca t t e r i c k Ca m p
i t w i l l , o f c o u r s e , b e f u l 1y i n v e s t i g a t e d .
S u i c i d e s
M r . G a l b r a i t h : To a s k t h e
D e f e n c e p u r s u a n t t o h i s a n s w e r o f 16 M a y t o t h e h o n .
M e m b e r f o r S o u t h S h i e l d s
( D r Cl a r k ) , Of f i c i a l Re p o r t ,
c o l u m n 559, i f h e w i l l b r e a k d o w n t h e n u m b e r o f s u i c i d e s
i n t h e a r m e d f o r c e s
( b ) s e r v i c e f o r e a c h
ye a r s i n c e 1991.
[ 4 0 7 6 7 J
M r . S o a m e s : S i n c e
J a n u a r y 1991 t h e t o t a l n u m b e r o f
s e r v i c e
p e r s o n n e l w h o h a v e b e e n c o n f i n n e d a s
c o m m i t t i n g s u i c i d e i s 13 0 , w h i c h i s b r o k e n d o w n a s
f o I J o w s :
.
.
ANNEX A TO
DjSEC(AS)j64/4
DATED OCT 96
,
D/Min(AF)/
October 1996
I am writing as promised in my
answers of 17 October to your
questions (Official Report, col 1092, copy attached) about the
It has been the policy
of successive Governments not to provide
when this discloses the more recent nature of their duties.
copy
A-1
.
. .
J 0 9 1
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W r i t t e n A n s w e r s 1 7 OCTOBER 1 9 9 6 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s J 0 9 2
( 3 )
w h a t r e s e a r c h h a s b e e n c o n d u c t e d o n b e h a l f o f h i s
t h e n a t i o n a l p o i s o n s i n f o r m a t i o n s e r v i c e
i n t o t h e c a u s e s o f G u l f w a r s y n d r o m e .
[ 4 1 2 9 2 J
M r . S o a m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r s a n d a
c o p y
H o u s e .
M r . N i c h o l a s Po p e
D e f e n c e t o w h a t p o s t M r . N i c h o l a s Po p e w a s a p p o i n t e d
b y
h i s D e p a r t m e n t a f t e r h i s t o u r o f d u t y w i t h S e c r e t a r i a t
( A i r S t a f f )
D e p a r t m e n t 2 A ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 4 0 9 2 0 ]
M r . S o a m e s : M r . N i c h o l a s Po p e
w a s p o s t e d o n
p r o m o t i o n
t w o y e a r s a g o t o a g e n e r a l f i n a n c e p o l i c y
b r a n c h .
D r . D a v i d Cl a r k : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e c u r r e n t r i s k
p o s e d t o c i v i l i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e J J s i n K u w a i t .
[ 4 1 1 0 1 J
M r . A r b u t h n o t : M y
D e p a r t m e n t h a s c o n d u c t e d n o
f o r m a l a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r i s k s t o c i v i l i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d
d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m - t i p p e d a m m u n i t i o n i n K u w a i t .
o f h a n d l i n g d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e l l s . [ 4 1 1 0 0 J
M r . S o a m e s : D e p l e t e d u r a n i u m h a s a v e r y l o w l e v e l
o f r a d i o a c t i v i t y a n d t h e r i s k s a t t a c h e d t o t h e h a n d l i n g o f
w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e 1 9 9 1 A t o m i c En e r g y
A u t h o r i t y r e p o r t o n i n d u s t r i a l t e c h n o l o g y c o n c e r n i n g t h e
s h e l l s .
[ 4 1 1 0 2 J
M r . S o a m e s : I r e f e r t h e h o n . M e m b e r t o t h e l e t t e r s e n t
b y m y
D e f e n c e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r f o r Bl a e n a u G w e n t
( M r . S m i t h ) o n 7 A u g u s t 1 9 9 6 , a c o p y
p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y
h o w m a n y d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e l l s w e r e f i r e d b y
Br i t i s h f o r c e s d u r i n g t h e G u l f w a r ; a n d w h a t a s s e s s m e n t
i n K u w a i t .
[ 4 1 0 9 9 J
M r . S o a m e s : Br i t i s h f o r c e s f i r e d s o m e 88 d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m s h e l l s d u r i n g t h e G u l f c o n f l i c t . Th e M i n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e h a s m a d e n o a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e n u m b e r o f
t h e r i s k
t o h u m a n h e a l t h p o s e d b y
i s l i k e l y , t h o u g h , t h a t a l a r g e p r o p o r t i o n o f t h e 88 s h e l l s
M r . L l e w S m i t h : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t s t u d i e s h a v e b e e n c o n d u c t e d b y
h i s
D e p a r t m e n t i n t o t h e n e p h r o t o x i c i t y o f t h e i n h a l a t i o n o f
u r a n i u m p a r t i c l e s .
[ 4 1 2 9 6 J
S ~ 7 CW I 4 Q. PA G l n
M r . S o a m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r a n d a
c o p y
H o u s e .
M a r r i e d Qu a r t e r s Es t a t e
M r . S p e l l a r : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
H o m e s f o r i m m e d i a t e u s e b y
t h e p r i v a t e s e c t o r . [ 4 0 9 3 1
J
M r . A r b u t h n o t : I w w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r a n d
a
c o p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y
o f t h e
H o u s e .
RA F Ru d l o e M a n o r
D e f e n c e w h a t w o r k i s c u r r e n t l y u n d e r t a k e n a t RA F
Ru d l o e M a n o r ; w h a t w o r k w a s u n d e r t a k e n i n t h e l a s t
1 0 y e a r s ; w h a t w a s , b y
r a n k , t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t f o r t h e l a s t
] 0 y e a r s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 0 82 3 J
M r . S o a m e s : I w w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r a n d a
c o p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y
o f t h e
H o u s e .
D e f e n c e
( 1 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 5 5 S I G ;
w h a t w a s i t s f u n c t i o n ( a )
f i v e y e a r s a n d ( b ) 1 0 y e a r s a g o ;
a n d i f h e w m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 0 J
( 2 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 6 5 B; w h a t w a s i t s
f u n c t i o n ( a )
f i v e y e a r s a n d ( b )
1 0 y e a r s a g o ;
a n d i f h e w i l l
[ 4 1 0 3 8J
( 3 ) w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 5 5 ; w h a t w a s i t s
1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i l l
[ 4 1 0 4 1 J
( 4 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 6 I E; w h a t w a s i t s
1 0 y e a r s a g o ;
a n d i f h e w i l l
[ 4 1 0 3 7 J
( 5 )
w h a t i s t h e c u r r e n t f u n c t i o n o f D I l O; w h a t w a s i t s
1 0 y e a r s a g o ; a n d i f h e w i l l
[ 4 1 0 3 9 ]
M r . S o a m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r a n d a
c o p y
H o u s e .
U n i d e n t i f i e d F l y i n g
Ob j e c t s
D e f e n c e ( 1 )
w h a t c o n s u l t a t i o n h a s t a k e n p l a c e i n e a c h o f
t h e l a s t f i v e y e a r s b y
h i s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t h e F r e n c h
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e Ce n t r e N a t i o n a l
d Et u d e s S p a t i a l e s
i n
[ 4 1 0 4 8]
( 2 )
F l y i n g Co m p l a i n t s F l i g h t s p e c i a l i s e s i n u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e c t i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[
4 1 0 3 6 J
( 3 )
h o w m a n y r e c o r d s c u r r e n t l y h e l d
b y
h i s
e x t e n d e d c l o s u r e f o r ( a ) 5 0 y e a r s , ( b )
7 5 y e a r s a n d ( c ) 1 0 0
f l y i n g o b j e c t s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 0 9 1 1 ]
. . .
DRAFT LETTER FROM MINISTER(AF) TO MARTIN
D/Min(AF)/
ANNEX B TO
D/SEC(AS) /64/4
. . .
DATED OCT 96
D
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October 1996
Parliamentary Question (Official Report, 17 October, Col 1092,
copy
attached).
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University Air Squadron and No 3 Air Experience Flight, which
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c. HQ P&SS(WR) formed in Apr 93 , and HQ P&SS (Southern
Region),
which was then at RAF Rudloe Manor, moved to RAF
Halton in 1995.
Oct 94.
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Wr u e n A n s w e rs 1 7 OCTOBER 1 9 9 6 Wri t t e n A n s w e rs 1 0 9 2
( 3 )
w hat re s e arc h has b e e n c o n d u c t e d o n b e hal f o f hi s
D e p art m e n t b y
t he n at i o n al p o i s o n s
i n f o rm at i o n s e rv i c e
i n t o t he c au s e s o f G u l f w ar s y n d ro m e . [ 4 1 2 9 2 ]
Mr. S o am e s : I w i l l w ri t e t o t he ho n . Me m b e rs an d a
c o p y
o f t he l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t he L i b rary
o f t he
H o u s e .
Mr. N i c ho l as P o p e
Mr. Re d m o n d : To as k t he S e c re t ary o f S t at e f o r
D e f e n c e t o w hat p o s t Mr. N i c ho l as P o p e w as ap p o i n t e d
b y
hi s D e p art m e n t af t e r hi s t o u r o f d u t y w i t h S e c re t ari at
( A i r S t af f )
D e p art m e n t 2 A ; an d i f he w i l l m ak e a
s t at e m e n t .
[ 4 0 9 2 0 ]
Mr. S o am e s : Mr. N i c ho l as P o p e w as p o s t e d o n
p ro m o t i o n
t w o y e ars ag o t o a g e n e ral f i n an c e p o l i c y
b ran c h.
U ran i u m - t i p p e d S he l l s
D r. D av i d Cl ark : To as k t he S e c re t ary o f S t at e f o r
D e f e n c e w hat as s e s s m e n t he has m ad e o f t he c u rre n t ri s k
p o s e d t o c i v i l i an s f ro m e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u ran i u m - t i p p e d
s he l l s i n K u w ai t .
[ 4 1 1 0 1 ]
Mr. A rb u t hn o t : My
D e p art m e n t has c o n d u c t e d n o
f o rm al as s e s s m e n t o f t he ri s k s t o c i v i l i an s f ro m e x p l o d e d
d e p l e t e d
u ran i u m - t i p p e d
am m u n i t i o n i n K u w ai t .
D r. Cl ark : To as k t he S e c re t ary o f S t at e f o r D e f e n c e
i f he w i l l m ak e a s t at e m e n t c o n c e rn i n g t he ri s k t o s o l d i e rs
o f han d l i n g d e p l e t e d u ran i u m - t i p p e d s he l l s . [ 4 1 1 0 0 ]
Mr. S o am e s : D e p l e t e d u ran i u m has a v e ry l o w l e v e l
o f rad i o ac t i v i t y an d t he ri s k s at t ac he d t o t he han d l i n g o f
d e p l e t e d u ran i u m am m u n i t i o n are m i n i m al .
D r. Cl ark : To as k t he S e c re t ary
o f S t at e f o r D e f e n c e
w hat as s e s s m e n t he has m ad e o f t he 1 9 9 1 A t o m i c En e rg y
A u t ho ri t y re p o rt o n i n d u s t ri al t e c hn o l o g y c o n c e rn i n g t he
ri s k o f e x p o s u re t o e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u ran i u m - t i p p e d
s he l l s .
[ 4 1 1 0 2 ]
Mr. S o am e s : I re f e r t he ho n . Me m b e r t o t he l e t t e r s e n t
b y m y
n o b l e F ri e n d t he U n d e r- S e c re t ary o f S t at e f o r
D e f e n c e t o t he ho n . Me m b e r f o r Bl ae n au G w e n t
( Mr. S m i t h) o n 7 A u g u s t 1 9 9 6 , a
c o p y
o f w hi c h has b e e n
p l ac e d i n t he L i b rary o f t he H o u s e .
D r. Cl ark : To as k t he S e c re t ary o f S t at e f o r D e f e n c e
ho w m an y d e p l e t e d u ran i u m - t i p p e d s he l l s w e re f i re d b y
Bri t i s h f o rc e s d u ri n g t he G u l f w ar; an d w hat as s e s s m e n t
he has m ad e o f t he n u m b e r o f e x p l o d e d s he l l s re m ai n i n g
i n K u w ai t .
[ 4 1 0 9 9 ]
Mr. S o am e s : Bri t i s h f o rc e s f i re d s o m e 88 d e p l e t e d
u ran i u m s he l l s d u ri n g t he G u l f c o n f l i c t . The Mi n i s t ry o f
D e f e n c e has m ad e n o as s e s s m e n t o f t he n u m b e r o f
e x p l o d e d s he l l s re m ai n i n g i n K u w ai t , as w e j u d g e
t he ri s k
t o hu m an he al t h p o s e d b y
D U ro u n d s t o b e n e g l i g i b l e . I t
i s l i k e l y , t ho u g h, t hat a l arg e p ro p o rt i o n o f t he 88 s he l l s
w as e x p e n d e d i n I raq rat he r t han K u w ai t .
Mr. L l e w S m i t h: To as k t he S e c re t ary o f S t at e f o r
D e f e n c e w hat s t u d i e s hav e b e e n c o n d u c t e d b y
hi s
D e p art m e n t i n t o t he n e p hro t o x i c i t y o f t he i n hal at i o n o f
u ran i u m p art i c l e s .
[ 4 1 2 9 6 J
, - 1 7 CWI - I 6 - P A G l n
Mr. S o am e s : I w i l l w ri t e t o t he ho n . Me m b e r an d a
c o p y
o f t he
H o u s e .
Marri e d Q u art e rs Es t at e
Mr. S p e l l ar: To as k t he S e c re t ary
o f S t at e f o r D e f e n c e
w hat are t he l o c at i o n s o f t he ho u s e s f ro m t he m arri e d
q u art e rs e s t at e t hat hav e b e e n re l e as e d t o A rri n g t o n
H o m e s f o r i m m e d i at e u s e b y
t he p ri v at e s e c t o r. [ 4 0 9 3 ! ]
Mr. A rb u t hn o t : I w i l l w ri t e t o t he ho n . Me m b e r an d
a c o p y
o f t he l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t he L i b rary o f t he
H o u s e .
; ~ ~ J : ( ~ 4 r
e Ma r
D e f e n c e w hat w o rk i s c u rre n t l y u n d e rt ak e n at RA F
Ru d l o e Man o r; w hat w o rk w as u n d e rt ak e n i n t he l as t
1 0 y e ars ; w hat w as , b y ran k , t he e s t ab l i s hm e n t f o r t he l as t
1 0 y e ars ; an d i f he w i l l m ak e a s t at e m e n t . [ 4 0 82 3 ]
c o p y
o f t he
H o u s e .
D e f e n c e I n t e l l i g e n c e Bran c he s
D e f e n c e
( 1 )
w hat i s t he c u rre n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 5 5 S I G ;
w hat w as i t s f u n c t i o n ( a)
f i v e y e ars an d ( b )
1 0 y e ars ag o ;
an d i f he w i U m ak e a s t at e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 0 J
( 2 )
w hat i s t he c u rre n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 6 5 B; w hat w as i t s
f u n c t i o n ( a)
1 0 y e ars ag o ;
an d i f he w i l l
m ak e a s t at e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 3 8J
( 3 )
w hat i s t he c u rre n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 5 5 ; w hat w as i t s
1 0 y e ars ag o ; an d i f he w i U
m ak e a s t at e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 4 1 ]
( 4 )
w hat i s t he c u rre n t f u n c t i o n o f D I 6 1 E; w hat w as i t s
f i v e y e ars an d
( b )
1 0 y e ars ag o ; an d i f he w i l l
m ak e a s t at e m e n t ; [ 4 1 0 3 7 ]
( 5 )
w hat i s t he c u rre n t f u n c t i o n o f D I l O; w hat w as i t s
f i v e y e ars an d
( b )
1 0 y e ars ag o ;
an d i f he w i U
m ak e a s t at e m e n t . [ 4 1 0 3 9 ]
c o p y
o f t he l e t t e r w i l l b e p l ac e d i n t he L i b rary o f t he
H o u s e .
U n i d e n t i f i e d F l y i n g
Ob j e c t s
D e f e n c e ( 1 )
w hat c o n s u l t at i o n has t ak e n p l ac e i n e ac h o f
t he l as t f i v e y e ars b y
hi s D e p art m e n t w i t h t he F re n c h
Mi n i s t ry o f D e f e n c e Ce n t re N at i o n al
d Et u d e s S p at i al e s
i n
re s p e c t o f u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g o b j e c t s ; an d i f he w i l l
m ak e a s t at e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 4 8]
( 2 )
i f a l o d g e r u n i t ho u s e d w i t hi n hi s D e p art m e n t s
F l y i n g Co m p l ai n t s F l i g ht s p e c i al i s e s i n u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e c t i n v e s t i g at i o n s ; an d i f he w i l l m ak e a s t at e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 3 6 ]
( 3 )
ho w m an y re c o rd s c u rre n t l y he l d b y
hi s
D e p art m e n t s S c i e n t i f i c I n t e l l i g e n c e Bran c h are u n d e r
e x t e n d e d c l o s u re f o r ( a) 5 0 y e ars , ( b )
7 5 y e ars an d ( c )
1 0 0
y e ars ; ho w m an y o f t he s e re c o rd s re f e r t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g o b j e c t s ; an d i f he w i l l m ak e a s t at e m e n t ; [ 4 0 9 1 1 ]
4 - -
, 1 .
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ANNEX C TO
D!SEC (AS)/64 /4
DATED OC T 96
DRAFT LETTER FROM US of S TO MARTIN
REDMOND~ ~ U:
D/USofS)/ October 1 996
In response to a number of Questions you recently a sked a bout
UFO
ma tters (Officia l Report, cols 1 092- 1 093 a nd 1 095, copies
~ : { r~ v ~ ~ ~ " J ~
a tta ched) Nichola s/sa id tha t he would be writing to you. I a m,
~ J ; *
howev er, replying
a s the Minister responsible for these issues. A
full list of the Questions is a tta ched a t Annex . I ha v e a dded a
sepa ra te number sequence from one to fifteen a nd use this in the
following pa ra gra phs for ea se of reference a nd cla rifica tion.
The
MOD s interest in unex pla ined a eria l phenomena
(Question 1 ) is limited to ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ e~ " F, eQ" - S& l~ y, , . 4 ; ; G ; ~ ta nli. sl1 . . ~
whether th~ re~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ a G e- t~ a ~ the UK Air Defence Region might
ha v e been compromi sed b~ " , ~ , a . . " , llQst. iJ . 9. , ~ f> G F. si~ a , - : mJ . . . lJ . ; I; ; , a * ~ . . . , a iJ ; ; , G , ~ ; f. .
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Unless there is a ny ev idence tha t this is the ca se, a nd to da te no
sighting ha s prov ided such ev idence, we do not , ma k&
~ ~ stiq~ ~ . or seek to prov ide a n ex pla na tion for wha t might
ha v e been observ ed. We ha v e no ex pertise or role with respect to
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in this respect ha s not cha nged during the la st thirty yea rs. ~ ~ c~ $
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RAF Standing Instructions (Question 2) require all RAF
station Commanders to forward reports of all
U FO
sightings
whether made by
members of the public or on- duty service personnel
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to the secretariat\Air
staf1 ,
Branch 2a. Sec(AS)2ais@ ~ 4 4 ~ ~ all
U FO
sighting reports (Question 3) whether military or civilian
reported"
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assessed in consultation with other M O D branches as required to
determine whether there is any defence interest in what has been
reported. O ver the last twelve months there has been one instance
of an on- duty member of the services reporting an unexplained
aerial sighting!
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We have no evidence (Question 4 )
that any structured craft of
unknown origin has penetrated the U K s Air Defence Region. I am
unable to provide the information you seek about reports of
alleged landings (Question 5)
since records are maintained only of
U FO
sighting reports which are not broken down further into
specific categories.
You ask at Questions 2a, 2b and 6- 1 2 about collaboration and
consultation with a number of foreign governments.
M y Department
has regular discussions with a number of countries on wide range
of topics of mutual interest but such discussions have not
extended to U FO / flying saucer issues or the existence or
otherwise of extraterrestrial life forms.
I can confirm (Question 1 3) that
my
Department s Scientific
Intelligence Branch holds no records under extended closure for
any period in excess of 30 years. So far as the information
. .
j .
- -
sought at Question 14 is concerned, the PRO has confirmed that the
class list giving details of preserved records is available to
researchers at Kew.
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at RA F Rudloe Manor {specialising in investigations into
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unidentified flying obj ects. I should add that despite continuing
misunderstandings about the role of RA F Rudloe Manor in alleged
U FO
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Martin Redmond MP
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.
W r i t t e n A n S w e r s
1 0 9 2
1 7 OCTOBER 1 9 9 6
( 8 ) how
m a n y a l l e g e d l a n d i n g s
f I y i n g
ob j e c t s ha v e b e e n r e c or d e d i n e a c h
y e a r s i n c e 1 9 8 0 a n d
t hi s
y e a r t o d a t e ; how m a n y ha v e b e e n
i n v e s t i g a t e d
b y hi s
p e r s on n e l ; w hi c h of t he s e ha d b e e n t r a c e d
b y r a d a r a n d w i t h w ha t r e s u l t ; a n d i f he w m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 0 9 2 1 ]
( 9 ) w ha t c on s u l t a t i on ha s t a k e n p l a c e i n e a c h of t he l a s t
f i v e
y e a r s
b y hi s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t he I t a l i a n
M i n i s t r y of
D e f e n c e a i r f or c e g e n e r a l s t a f f ( 2 . D e p a r t m e n t ) i n r e s p e c t
of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f I y i n g ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 4 9 J
( 1 0 ) w ha t i n s t r u c t i on s ha v e b e e n s e n t t o t he
c om m a n d e r s of Roy a l A i r F or c e s t a t i on s t o c ol l e c t
r e p or t s
f r om a i r c r e w s ha v i n g a l l e g e d l y s i g ht e d u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g ob j e c t s ; w ha t i n q u i r i e s ha v e b e e n he l d f ol l ow i n g
s u c h
s i g ht i n g s ; t o w ha t e x t e n t t he r e ha s b e e n c ol l a b or a t i on
b e t w e e n hi s
D e p a r t m e n t a n d d e p a r t m e n t s i n ( a ) Ca n a d a
a n d
( b ) t he U n i t e d S t a t e s of A m e r i c a on t hi s p r ob l e m ; a n d
i f he w i J 1 m a k e a s t a t e m e n t :
[ 4 0 9 1 7 ]
( 1 1 ) w ha t c on s u l t a t i on ha s t a k e n
p l a c e i n e a c h of t he
l a s t f i v e
y e a r s b y hi s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h Ne w Z e a l a n d s
M i n i s t r y of D e f e n c e i n r e s p e c t of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w i 1 l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 4 3 J
( 1 2 ) w ha t c on s u l t a t i on ha s t a k e n
p l a c e i n e a c h of t he
l a s t f i v e
y e a r s
b y hi s D e p a r t m e n r w i t h t he
P or t u g u e s e
M i n i s t r y of D e f e n c e s
j oi n t s t a f f of t he a r m e d f or c e s
i n t e l l i g e n c e
d i v i s i on i n r e s p e c t of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t
[ 4 1 0 5 1 J
( 1 3 ) how
m a n y i n s t a n c e s of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g ob j e c t s
ha v e b e e n
r e p or t e d on
b y t he d e f e n c e s e r v i c e s of t he
U n i t e d
K i n g d om d u r i n g t he l a s t 1 2 m on t hs ; w ha t
s t e p s
a r e t a k e n t o c o- or d i n a t e s u c h ob s e r v a t i on s ; a n d i f he w i l l
m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 0 9 ! OJ
4
> ! I ( 1 4 ) i f he w i l l l i s t
b y y e a r f or t he l a s t 3 0 y e a r s how
m a n y
s t r u c t u r e d c r a f t of u n k n ow n
or i g i n ha v e
p e n e t r a t e d
t he
U n i t e d
K i n g d om s a i r d e f e n c e
r e g i on ; a n d i f he w i l l
m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 49 ! 9 ]
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F l y i n g Ob j e c t s
M r . Re d m on d : To a s k t he
D e f e n c e
( 1 ) w ha t c on s u l t a t i on ha s t a k e n p l a c e i n e a c h of
t he l a s t f i v e
y e a r s
b y hi s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t he F r e n c h
M i n i s t r y of D e f e n c e Ce n t r e Na t i on a l d Et u d e s
S p a t i a l e s
i n
r e s p e c t of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w i l l
[ 4 1 0 4 8 J
( 2 ) i f a l od g e r u n i t hou s e d w i t hi n hi s D e p a r t m e n t s
F l y i n g Com p l a i n t s F l i g ht s p e c i a l i s e s i n u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
ob j e c t i n v e s t i g a t i on s ; a n d i f he w i J I m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 3 6 J
( 3 ) how
m a n y r e c or d s
c u r r e n t l y he l d
b y hi s
D e p a r t m e n t s S c i e n t i f i c
I m e ! 1 i g e n c e Br a n c h a r e u n d e r
e x t e n d e d c l os u r e f or
( a ) 5 0 y e a r s , ( b ; 7 5 y e a r s a n d
( c ) 1 0 0
y e a r s ; how
m a n y of t he s e r e c or d s r e f e r t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 0 9 1 I J
5 ~
\
"
1 0 9 5 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s
4 ~
M r . Ni c hol a s Re d f e r n
M r . Re d m on d : To a s k t he
D e f e n c e i f he w i I l l i s t t he t i t l e s of t he r e c or d s of t he
M i n i s t r y of D e f e n c e s
s c i e n t i f i c i n r e i l i g e n c e b r a n c h i n
r e s p e c t of c or r e s p on d e n c e s e n t t o ; \ ,1 r . Ni c hol a s Re d f e r n
b v t he P u b l i c Re c or d Of f i c e . K e w on 2 1 S e p t e m b e r 1 9 9 0 . .
[ 4 0 8 8 9 J
M r . S oa m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o hon . : \ f e m b e r a n d a
c op y
of t he l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t he L i b r a r y
i n t he H ou s e .
2 .
2 . .
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1 0 9 3
,\ . ~
( 4 ) w ha t c on s u l t a t i on ha s t a k e n
p l a c e i n e a c h of t he l a s t
f i v e y e a r s
b y hi s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t he
Roy a l A u s t r a l i a n
a i r f or c e i n r e s p e c t of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g ob j e c t s ; a n d i f
he w i J 1 m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 4 2 J
( 5 ) w ha t c on s u l t a t i on ha s t a k e n
p l a c e i n e a c h of t he l a s t
f i v e
y e a r s b y hi s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t he S p a n i s h M i n i s t r y
of D e f e n c e s
i n r e J l i g e n c e s e c t i on of t he S p a n i s h a i r f or c e s
a i r op e r a t i on s c om m a n d i n r e s p e c t of u n i d e n t i f i e d
f I y i n g
ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 1 0 5 0 J
( 6 ) i f he w i l l m a k e s t a t e m e n t on hi s D e p a r t m e n t s
p ol i c y t ow a r d s u n i d e n t i f i e d
H y i n g ob j e c t s a n d on how t hi s
ha s
d e v e l op e d d u r i n g t he p a s t 3 0 y e a r s ;
[ 4 0 9 1 3 J
( 7 ) w ha t c o- op e r a t i on t he r e i s b e t w e e n t he
Roy a l A i r
F or c e a n d t he U n i t e d S t a t e s a i r f or c e i n r e s p e c t of
e s t a b l i s hi n g t he f a c t s r e l a t i n g t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
f I y i n g
ob j e c t s ; a n d i f he w i I J m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 0 9 1 8 J
1 ,.
L
b ~
5 "
~.
M r .
S oa m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t he hon . M e m b e r a n d a
c op y of t he l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t he
L i b r a r y of t he
H ou s e .
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( 3 ) - w h a t r e s e a r c h h a s b e e n c o n d u c t e d o n b e h a l f o f h i s
t h e n a t i o n a l p o i s o n s i n f o r m a t i o n s e r v i c e
i n t o t h e c a u s e s o f G u l f w a r s y n d r o m e . [ 4 12 92 ]
Mr .
S o a m e s : I w i l l w r i t e t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r s a n d a
c o p y
o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r y
o f t h e
Ho u s e .
I
( J ~ )
I
.
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Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
I D e f e n c e t o w h a t p o s t Mr . N i c h o l a s P o p e w a s a p p o i n t e d
i
b y
h i s D e p a r t m e n t a f t e r h i s t o u r o f d u t y w i t h S e c r e t a r i a t
I
( A i r
S t a f f ) D e p a r t m e n t 2 A ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 4 092 0]
Mr .
S o a m e s : Mr . N i c h o l a s P o p e w a s p o s t e d o n
p r o m o t i o n
t w o y e a r s a g o t o a g e n e r a l f i n a n c e p o l i c y
b r a n c h .
D r . D a v i d Cl a r k : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e
w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e c u r r e n t r i s k
p o s e d
t o c i v a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e l l s i n K u w a i t . [ 4 1101J
Mr .
A r b u t h n o t : My D e p a r t m e n t h a s c o n d u c t e d n o
f o r m a l
a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r i s k s t o c i v i l i a n s f r o m e x p l o d e d
d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m - t i p p e d a m m u n i t i o n i n K u w a i t .
D r .
Cl a r k : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
o f h a n d l i n g d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e l l s . [ 4 1100J
Mr .
S o a m e s : D e p l e t e d u r a n i u m h a s a v e r y
l o w l e v e l
o f
r a d i o a c t i v i t y a n d t h e r i s k s a t t a c h e d t o t h e h a n d l i n g o f
d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m a m m u n i t i o n a r e m i n i m a l .
D r .
Cl a r k : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
w h a t
a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e 1991 A t o m i c En e r g y
A u t h o r i t y r e p o r t o n i n d u s t r i a l t e c h n o l o g y c o n c e r n i n g t h e
r i s k
o f e x p o s u r e t o e x p l o d e d d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d
s h e l l s .
[ 4 1102 ]
Mr .
S o a m e s : I r e f e r t h e h o n . Me m b e r t o t h e l e t t e r s e n t
b y m y
D e f e n c e
t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r BI a e n a u G w e n t
( Mr .
S m i t h ) o n 7 A u g u s t 1996 , a
c o p y
p l a c e d
i n t h e L i b r a r y o f t h e Ho u s e .
h o w m a n y
d e p l e t e d u r a n i u m - t i p p e d s h e l l s w e r e f i r e d b y
Br i t i s h
f o r c e s d u r i n g t h e G u l f w a r ; a n d w h a t a s s e s s m e n t
i n
K u w a i t .
[ 4 1099]
1\ l r .
S o a m e s : Br i t i s h f o r c e s f i r e d s o m e 8 8 d e p l e t e d
u r a n i u m
s h e l l s d u r i n g t h e G u l f c o n f l i c t . Th e Mi n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e
h a s m a d e n o a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e n u m b e r o f
e x p l o d e d
s h e l l s r e m a i n i n g i n K u w a i t , a s w e j u d g e t h e r i s k
t o
h u m a n h e a l t h p o s e d b y
i s l i k e l y ,
t h o u g h , t h a t a l a r g e p r o p o r t i o n o f t h e 8 8 s h e l l s
Mr . L l e w S m i t h : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e
w h a t s t u d i e s h a v e b e e n c o n d u c t e d b y
h i s
D e p a r t m e n t
i n t o t h e n e p h r o t o x i c i t y o f t h e i n h a l a t i o n o f
u r a n i u m
p a r t i c l e s . [ 4 12 96 ]
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10 y e a r s ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 08 2 3 ]
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a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 104 0]
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m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 103 8 ]
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f u n c t i o n
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f u n c t i o n
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m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 103 9]
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t h e l a s t t i v e y e a r s b y h i s D e p a r t m e n t w i t h t h e F r e n c h
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i n .
m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ; [ 4 104 8 J
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o b j e c t i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ; a n d i f h e w i l J m a k e a s t a t e m e n t ;
[ 4 103 6 ]
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En v i r o n m e n t wh a t p r o v i si o n s e x i st f o r t h e o f f sh o r e
d i sp o sa l o f r a d i o a c t i v e sc a l e a r i si n g f r o m o i l e x p l o r a t i o n
a n d d r i IJ i n g i n t h e No r t h se a a n d At l a n t i c . [ 4 1 2 5 1 }
Mr . Cl a p p i so n : D i sc h a r g e o f n a t u r a l l y r a d i o a c t i v e
sc a l e f r o m o i l e x p l o r a t i o n a n d d r i J J i n g i n UK wa t e r s i s
r e g u l a t e d u n d e r t h e Ra d i o a c t i v e S u b st a n c e s Ac t 1 9 9 3 , a s
a m e n d e d . Th e En v i r o n m e n t Ag e n c y i s t h e r e g u l a t o r f o r
t h e En g l i sh a n d W e l sh se c t o r s. Th e S c o t t i sh En v i r o n m e n t
P r o t e c t i o n Ag e n c y i s t h e r e g u l a t o r f o r t h e S c o t t i sh se c t o r .
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Mr . Me a c h e r : To a sk t h e S e c r e t a i - y o f S t a t e f o r t h e
En v i r o n m e n t wh a t c o n t r i b u t i o n h i s D e p a r t m e n t m a d e t o
t h e W o r l d Co n se r v a t i o n Co n g r e ss h e l d i n Mo n t r e a l t h i s
m o n t h ; i f h i s D e p a r t m e n t wa s r e p r e se n t e d a t t h e c o n g r e ss;
a n d wh a t p l a n s h e h a s t o a sse ss t h e c o n c l u si o n s o f t h e
c o n g r e ss. [ 4 1 2 5 2 J
Mr . Cl a p p i so n : Th e UK i s a st a t e m e m b e r o f t h e
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l e a d i n g t h e l J K d e l e g a t i o n a t t h e W o r l d Co n se r v a t i o n
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c o n t r i b u t i o n t o m CN 1 9 9 4 t o 1 9 9 6 , wh i c h wi l l b e
l a u n c h e d d u r i n g t h e c o n g r e ss.
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Mr . Me a c h e r : To a sk t h e P r i m e Mi n i st e r wh a t n e w
p o l i c y p r o p o sa l s we r e a n n o u n c e d
b y Mi n i st e r s o f
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7 O c t o b e r ; a n d i f h e wi l l i n d i c a t e wh i c h o f t h e m wi J J b e
su b j e c t t o c o m p l i a n c e c o st a sse ssm e n t s. { 4 0 8 0 1 ]
Th e P r i m e Mi n i st e r : Th e G o v e r n m e n t
p r e p a r e a
c o m p l i a n c e c o st a sse ssm e n t f o r a U n e w l e g i sl a t i o n l i k e l y
t o h a v e a n i m p a c t o n b u si n e ss a n d t h e v o l u n t a r y se c t o r .
Th e G o v e r n m e n t s l e g i sl a t i v e p r o g r a m m e wi l l b e
p r e se n t e d t o t h e H o u se o n 2 3 O c t o b e r . Co m p l i a n c e c o st s
a sse ssm e n t s wi J J b e p r e se n t e d i n d u e c o u r se f o r t h e Bi J J s
i n t h e p r o g r a m m e .
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Mr . Mi l b u r n : To a sk t h e P r i m e Mi n i st e r wh a t a r e h i s
l a t e st e st i m a t e s o f t h e e x p e n d i t u r e o n a J J e x t e r n a l
c o n su l t a n t s, i n c l u d i n g m a n a g e m e n t c o n su l t a n t s, f o r e a c h
y e a r si n c e 1 9 9 2 , i n 1 9 9 6 p r i c e s, f o r h i s D e p a r t m e n t a n d
i t s a g e n c i e s; a n d wh a t a r e t h e q u a n t i f i e d a n n u a l c o st
sa v i n g s wh i c h su c h e x p e n d i t u r e h a s r e su l t e d i n . { 4 1 1 7 3 ]
Th e P r i m e Mi n i st e r : F o r t h e se p u r p o se s m y O f f i c e i s
p a r t o f t h e Ca b i n e t O f f i c e . O f f i c e o f P u b l i c S e r v i c e .
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a l l o c a t e t o a d e p a r t m e n t t h e a sse ssm e n t s o f t h e n o n - a i r
d e f e n c e i m p l i c a t i o n s a sso c i a t e d wi t h u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g
o b j e c t s; a n d i f h e wi l l m a k e a st a t e m e n t .
[ 4 0 8 2 2 ]
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i m p l i c a t i o n s o f u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g o b j e c t s a r e t h e
r e sp o n si b i l i t y o f t h e Mi n i st r y o f D e f e n c e a n d t h e Ci v i l
Av i a t i o n Au t h o r i t y r e sp e c t i v e l y . Th e G o v e r n m e n t h a v e n o
p l a n s t o a l l o c a t e r e so u r c e s t o r e se a r c h i n g e x t r a t e r r e st r i a l
p h e n o m e n a .
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Mr . S o l e y : To a sk t h e P r i m e Mi n i st e r i f h e wi l l e x t e n d
t h e No r t h e r n Ir e l a n d c o m p e n sa t i o n sc h e m e f o r t e r r o r i st
a t t a c k s t o m a i n l a n d Br i t a i n .
[ 4 0 9 3 4 }
Th e P r i m e Mi n i st e r : I r e f e r t h e h o n . G e n t l e m a n t o t h e
r e p l y g i v e n t o t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r Ma n c h e st e r , BJ a c k J e y
( Mr . Ea st h a m ) ,
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wa s t h e t o t a l e x p e n d i t u r e o n n e w b u i l d i n g s a n d p r e m i se s b y
h i s D e p a r t m e n t a n d i t s a g e n c i e s; a n d i f h e wi l l i n d i c a t e t h e
sq u a r e f o o t a g e o f n e w o f f i c e sp a c e p u r c h a se d o r n e wl y
r e n t e d i n e a c h o f t h e l a st f i v e y e a r s.
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p u r p o se s o f t h i s q u e st i o n ,
m y O f f i c e i s p a r t o f t h e Ca b i n e t O f f i c e , O f f i c e o f P u b l i c
S e r v i c e . I r e f e r t h e h o n . Me m b e r t o t h e
r e p l y g i v e n t o d a y
b y m y r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d , t h e P a y m a st e r G e n e r a l .
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Mr . H a n so n : To a sk t h e P r i m e Mi n i st e r wh a t st e p s h e
i s t a k i n g t o e n c o u r a g e t h e p u r c h a se a n d u se o f Br i t i sh
Be e f
b y G o v e r n m e n t D e p a r t m e n t s.
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wa y t o e n c o u r a g e u se
o f Br i t i sh Be e f i s t o r e st o r e c o n f i d e n c e i n t h e p r o d u c t . Th e
Mi n i st r y o f
Ag r i c u l t u r e , F i sh e r i e s a n d F o o d h a s l a u n c h e d
a n i n i t i a t i v e t o r e a ssu r e c o n su m e r s a n d t h o se r e sp o n si b l e
f o r p r o c u r e m e n t a b o u t t h e r i g o r o u s e n f o r c e m e n t o f t h e
c o n t r o l m e a su r e s i n t r o d u c e d t o p r o t e c t p u b l i c h e a l t h . Th e
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S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r W a l e s
wh a t p r o p o sa l s h e h a s a n d wh a t c o n su l t a t i o n s h e h a s se t
u p o n t h e i n t r o d u c t i o n o f a sa l a r i e d st a t u s sc h e m e f o r
g e n e r a l p r a c t i c e .
[ 4 0 6 6 8 ]
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a n d t h i s ye a r t o d a t e t h e n u m b e r o f o c c a s i o n s o n w h i c h t h e
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a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t a r e
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m a n a g e m e n t c o n s u l t a n t s , f o r e a c h ye a r s i n c e 1 9 9 2 . i n
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[ 4 1 1 7 8 ]
Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s Of f i c e ,
m y r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e
M e m b e r f o r Ri c h m o n d a n d Ba r n e s ( M r . H a n l e y) , s h a l l
w r i t e t o t h e h o n . M e m b e r s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i l l
b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r i e s o f t h e H o u s e .
Ne w Bu i l d i n g s a n d P r e m i s e s
M r s . Br i d g e t P r e n t i c e : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e
f o r F o r e i g n a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t w a s t h e t o t a l
e x p e n d i t u r e o n n e w b u i J d i n g s a n d p r e m i s e s
b y h i s
D e p a r t m e n t a n d i t s a g e n c i e s ; a n d i f h e w i l l i n d i c a t e t h e
s q u a r e f o o t a g e o f n e w o f f i c e s p a c e p u r c h a s e d o r n e w l y
r e n t e d i n e a c h o f t h e l a s t f i v e ye a r s . [ 4 1 1 4 4 ]
Co m m o n w e a l t h Of f i c e , m y r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e M e m b e r
Te l e p b o n e In t e r c e p t i o n s
M r . Re d m o n d : To a s k t h e
F o r e i g n a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s i f h e w i l l l i s t f o r e a c h
o f t h e l a s t 1 2 m o n t h s t h e n u m b e r o f
( a ) i n t e r c e p t i o n s a n d
( b ) m o n i t o r i n g s o f t e l e p h o n e c a l l s
( i ) e n t e r i n g o r
( i i ) l e a v i n g t h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m , t h r o u g h t h e j o i n t
4 6 2 CW 1 4 5 . P A G 1 1 1 0
f \ ~
I. t . j
. -
.
,
, ! \ . . d \ . ~
L : : . ) l
W r i t t e n A n , \ " J . < / e r s
G o v e r n m e n t
, .
Co m m u n i c a t i o n s
h e a d q u a r t e r s - Na t i o n a l
S e c u r i t y A g e n c y a g r e e m e n t ; a n d i f . h e w i l l m a k e a
s t a t e m e n t .
[ 4 0 9 7 2 J
D r . . L i a m F o x : . . Th e M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e , F o r e i g n a n d
f o r Ri c h m o n d a n d Ba r n e s ( M r . H a n l e y) , s h a H w r i t e t o t h e
M r . . A u s t i n M i t c h e l l : To a s k t h e
F o r e i g n a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e
h a s m a d e o f t h e i m p l i c a t i o n s f o r U n i t e d K i n g d o m p o l i c y
o n t h e u s e o f n u c l e a r w e a p o n s o f t h e d e c i s i o n o f t h e
.
In t e r n a t i o n a l Co u r t o f J u s t i c e o n n u c l e a r w e a p o n s .
[ 4 J 2 2 4 J
s h o r t l y. Co p i e s o f t h e l e t t e r w i U b e p l a c e d i n t h e L i b r a r i e s
Co m b i n e d H e a t a n d P o w e r
M r . Ba t t l e : To a s k t h e
S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n
a n d Co m m o n w e a l t h A f f a i r s w h a t c a p a c i t y o f e l e c t r i c i t y
u s e d i n h i s D e p a r t m e n t s b u i l d i n g s i s g e n e r a t e d i n a
c o m b i n e d h e a t a n d p o w e r p l a n t ; a n d w h a t p l a n s h e h a s t o
i n c r e a s e t h a t
c a p a c i t y.
[ 4 1 3 2 1 ]
Co m m o n w e a J t h Of f i c e ,
D EF ENCE
Re l i g i o u s D i s c r i m i n a t i o n ( Ca t e r i c k Ca m p )
M r . G a b r a i t h : To a s k t h e
D e f e n c e w h a t r e p o r t s h e h a s r e c e i v e d o f r e l i g i o u s
d i s c r i m i n a t i o n a t Ca t t e r i c k c a m p d u r i n g J u n e a n d J u l y;
a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e a s t a t e m e n t . [ 4 0 7 6 6 J
M r . S o a m e s : Th e r e h a v e b e e n n o r e p o r t e d i n c i d e n t s o f
r e l i g i o u s d i s c r i m i n a t i o n a t Ca t t e r i c k Ca m p d u r i n g J u n e
a n d J u l y. H o w e v e r , w e t r e a t a n y a l l e g a t i o n s o f
d i s c r i m i n a t i o n e x t r e m e l y s e r i o u s l y a n d i f t h e h o n .
M e m b e r c a n p r o v i d e a n y i n f o r m a t i o n w h i c h s u g g e s t s t h a t
r e l i g i o u s d i s c r i m i n a t i o n h a s t a k e n p l a c e a t Ca t t e r i c k Ca m p
i t w i I! , o f c o u r s e , b e f u l l y i n v e s t i g a t e d .
S u i c i d e s
M r . G a l b r a i t h : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e p u r s u a n t t o h i s a n s w e r o f ] 6 M a y t o t h e h o n .
M e m b e r f o r S o u t h S h i e l d s ( D r Cl a r k ) ,
Of f i c a l Re p o r t ,
c o l u m n 5 5 9 , i f h e w i I! b r e a k d o w n t h e n u m b e r o f s u i c i d e s
i n t h e a r m e d f o r c e s
( b ) s e r v i c e f o r e a c h
ye a r s i n c e 1 9 9 1 .
[ 4 0 7 6 7 J
M r . S o a m e s : S i n c e
J a n u a r y ] 9 9 1 t h e t o t a l n u m b e r o f
s e r v i c e
p e r s o n n e l w h o h a v e b e e n c o n f i r m e d a s
c o m m i t t i n g s u i c i d e i s 1 3 0 , w h i c h i s b r o k e n d o w n a s
f o l l o w s :
ANNEX A TO
D/SEC(AS) /64/4
. . . . . .
DATED OCT 96
D/Min(AF)/
October 1996
my
answers of ?? October to your
questions (official report, cols . .
copy
attached) about the
The departme~ tal titles you asked about are in a series which
. i
delineate/Defence Intellig~ nce Staff (DIS) branches, sections and
"
desks 91though not all of them were extant during the timeframe
J/
you~ lpecified.
It has been the policy of successive Governments
not to provide information on the functions of individual
intelligence branches when this discloses the current nature of
DIS responsibilities. In the/1ight of this, I am afraid I cannot
comment upon the duties o~ //the Defence Intelligence branches
referred to in your qu~ % tions.
i
copy
A-I
ANNEX B TO
D/SEC(AS) /64/4
~ O"
DATED OCT 96
DRAFT LETTER FROM MINISTER(AF) TO MARTIN REDMOND
D/Min(AF)/
October 1996
Parliamentary Question, a
copy
of which is attached at Annex.
RAF Rudloe Manor consists of a parent unit and 6 lodger
units~ The parent unit i~ ~ anded by
a Station Commander
(a
"
wing Commander, Administrative ~ ch) and it provides
accommodation, medical, dental, and
other administrative services dger units:
f"~ "
No 1 Signals Unit - # ~ RAF unit!operatingand maintaining
L..~ \ -
fixed telecommunications services within the UK on behalf of
Headquarters Defence Fixed Te.:t.,
communications System; ", it
- ... ,-
,1\ .,...,""; ;
provides voice and data communications for MOD, RN, Army and
RAF establishments throughout the country.
Detachment of 1001 Signals Unit.
""No" x""StJ "is"
>."RAF unit
~ .f; .)\ >""
operatl ~ ~ the UK military communications satellite system.
B - 1
It controJs sa te l l i te ~ a nd ope ra te s communi ca ti ons pa ssi ng
ove r t) 1 e m No 1 001 SU compri se s se ve ra l si te s, one of whi ch
"
i s l oca te d a t RAF Rudl oe Ma nori pa rt of the De ta chme nt
ope ra te s from a si te a t Azi mghur Ba rra cks, col e rne
Ni
r
g
~
whi ch i s cl ose toRAF Rudl oe Ma nor.
He a dqua rte rs Provost a nd Se curi ty Se rvi ce s (UK)
-
a RAF uni t
comma ndi ng the 6 ge ogra phi ca l P&SS Re gi ons wi thi n the UK ~
provi di ng sp
~ i a l i st Pol i cy a nd Se curi ty support to a l l RAF
,~
e sta b l i sJ; l 1 ~ e nt.~ J.
"
He a dqua rte rs Provost a nd Se curi ty Se rvi ce s (We ste rn Re gi on)
-
.
provi di ng spe ci a l i st Pol i cy a nd Se curi ty support to a l l RAF
e sta b l i shme nts wi thi n a ,t: f" { ; J; e a " " ,{ i } 6 ns: i : st" : i : ng: ~ " e - &, the We st
Mi dl a nds, the We st Country a nd South a nd Mi d Wa l e s.
Control l e r De fe nce Communi ca ti ons Ne twork
-
a tri - se rvi ce
uni t control l i ng worl d wi de de fe nce communi ca ti ons.
Bri stol Uni ve rsi ty Ai r Squa dron
-
provi di ng a i r e xpe ri e nce
a nd fl yi ng tra i ni ng for the BUAS ca de ts a nd ope ra ti ng from
the a i rfi e l d a t Azi mghur Ba rra cks.
The rol e of the sta ti on ove r the l a st 1 0 ye a rs ha s not va ri e d,
a l though some of the l odge r uni ts ha ve cha nge d:
B- 2
~
b. No 1 SU came into existence in Apr 93, forming from a
c. HQ P&SS(WR) formed in Apr 93, and HQ P&SS (Southern
Region),
Halton in Sep
85.
Oct 94.
I am able to provide the following information for the
establishment of the Station:
[DASA PROVI DI NG THE STATS]
For security reasons I am unable to
go
into anymore detail.
B-3
ANNEX C TO
D/SEC (AS)/64/4
DATED OC T 96
DRAFT LETTER FROM US of S TO MARTIN REDMOND
UFO
m a tters, Nichola s sa id tha t he wou ld be writing to you . I
a m , however, replying a s the Minister responsible for these
issu es. A fu ll list of the Qu estions is a tta ched a t Annex a nd,
for ea se of reference, I ha ve nu m bered them from one to fifteen.
The MODs interest in u nexpla ined a eria l phenom ena
(Qu estion 1)
is lim ited to tha t requ ired solely to esta blish
whether there is a ny evidence tha t the UK Air Defence Region m ight
ha ve been com prom ised by
a hostile foreign m ilita ry a ircra ft.
Unless there is a ny evidence tha t this is the ca se, a nd to da te no
sighting ha s provided su ch evidence, we do not m a ke a ny fu rther
investiga tions or seek to provide a n expla na tion for wha t m ight
ha ve been observed. We ha ve no expertise or role with respect to
UFO/flying sa u cer m a tters or so fa r a s the existence or
otherwise of extra terrestria l lifeform si we rem a in open m inded bu t
know of no evidence tha t proves these phenom ena exist. Ou r policy
in this respect ha s not cha nged du ring the la st thirty yea rs since
wea re confident tha t ou r own Air Defence system technology ha s
evolved a nd developed to m eet ou r needs.
: t; " " " c,a J J ,,,,,,a .ssU4: ; ,e" " 1{ ,QU,,,,: tl1& t RAF Sta nding Instru ctions (Qu estion 2)
requ ire a ll RAF Sta tion C om m a nders to forwa rd reports of a ll
UFO
sightings whether m a de
by
m em bers of the pu blic or ondu ty service
personnel " c: i: 1: : l? eG t to the Secreta ria t Air
Sta ff~ ~
Bra nch 1~ " " s.eG ,~ A~ 2a .
Sec(AS)2a coordina te a ll
UFO
sighting reports (Qu estion 3)
whether m ilita ry or civilia n reported a nd initia te fu rther a ction
a s requ ired. Reports a re a ssessed in consu lta tion with other MOD
bra nches a s requ ired to determ ine whether there is a ny defence
interest in wha t ha s been reported. Over the la st twelve m onths
there ha s been one insta nce of a n ondu ty m em ber of the services
reporting a n u nexpla ined a eria l sighting.
~ : ~ i . { , : 4
I
" , ^ e
f l " " " . e c r r r f 1 : r n r (Que sti on 4 ) that ~ 6 i str uc tur e d c r af t of
F , . f : J L ? ! ~ , . 1
un kn own
or i g i r t, w" i l av e
pe n e tr ate d the UK
I ;
Ai r De f e n c e Re g i on . I am
un abl e to pr ov i de the i n f or mati on you se e k bout r e por ts of
al l e g e d l an di n g s (Que sti on 5)
si n c e r e c or ds ar e mai n tai n e d on l y of
UF O
si g hti n g r e por ts whi c h ar e n ot br oke n down f ur the r i n to
spe c i f i c c ate g or i e s.
You ask at Que sti on s 2a, 2b an d 6 - 1 2 about c ol l abor ati on an d
c on sul tati on wi th a n umbe r of f or e i g n g ov e r n me n ts.
My De par tme n t
has r e g ul ar di sc ussi on s wi th a n umbe r of c oun tr i e s on a wi de r an g e
of topi c s of mutual i n te r e st but suc h di sc ussi on s hav e n ot
e xte n de d to UF O/f l yi n g sauc e r i ssue s or the e xi ste n c e or
othe r wi se of e xtr ate r r e str i al l i f e f or ms.
I c an c on f i r m (Que sti on 1 3) that
my
De par tme n t s Sc i e n ti f i c
I n te l l i g e n c e Br an c h hol ds n o r e c or ds un de r e xte n de d c l osur e f or
an y pe r i od i n e xc e ss of 30 ye ar s. So f ar as the i n f or mati on
soug ht at Que sti on 1 4 i s c on c e r n e d, the PRO has c on f i r me d that the
c l ass l i st g i v i n g de tai l s of pr e se r v e d r e c or ds i s av ai l abl e to
r e se ar c he r s at Ke w.
F i n al l y, I c an al so c on f i r m (Que sti on 1 5) that the r e i s n o
l odg e r un i t house d wi thi n the F l yi n g Compl ai n ts F l i g ht (F CF ) base d
at RAF Rudl oe Man or spe c i al i si n g i n i n v e sti g ati on s i n to
un i de n ti f i e d f l yi n g obje c ts. I shoul d add that de spi te c on ti n ui n g
mi sun de r stan di n g s about the r ol e of RAF Rudl oe Man or i n al l e g e d
UF O
i n v e sti g ati on s, the stati on i s n ot an d n e v e r has be e n
i n v ol v e d i n thi s way.
~ ~
what.post M r
after his tour of
2Aiandifhe will
, Ac i ; ..: .."
~ ~
T 0 9 - $ k 3 ) : .g ~ seC : r etar y
of State for
~ ; c : b .R .* ~ .s < ~ ? pewas
~ ppoin~ edb y
his
dutY i \ N : ~ : t: .hSec r etar ~ at
( A~ r Staff) Depar tment
mak e.a~ statement.
~ l,
, T o ask the Pr ime M inister ,
if he will alloc ate toa
depar tmentth
assessments of the non
air - defenc e
implic ations
assoc iated
with
unidentified fly ing ob j ec t~ ;
and if he will mak e a
statement.
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, ; , ~ . . : > , : . ~ ~ , . . . . ~ , " : " . . " - , , : ~ C
: ; . . ; .
" . . . . . . . . o .
1
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984
C o 1 5.
1 3 2&
1 3 3
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F J ) i n g O b j e c t s
S i r P a t r i d :
Wa U ? s k c d t h c S ~ c r c t a f Y o f S t i l t C f o r
D e f c l l c e
( 1 ) IJ O W
l l J : ! n y
a H c r , . : : d l a n d i n g s
b y u n i d c l 1 1 i f i c : 1
f i y i . 1 g o b j e c t s h a v c b c e n 1 1 1 : 1 d . : : i u 1 %0, 1 9S I, 1 982 : 1 : 1 d
J 9S 3 . r e s p : c t i v c l y ; IIn d h o w
m n n ) h : l v C b e e n
i n v c s l i g a t e d
b y h i s D : : p a r t m c l 1 t $
p : f s o n n ~ l ;
( 2) h o w
m : m ) u n c x p ! a i n e d
s i s h t i n D s t h e r e k l \ c h e e n i n
1 9&0, 1 9S 1 . J 93 2 a n d
1 983 , n : s p e c t i \ " c l y ; a n d wh i c h o f
t h c ~ e h a d b e e n t m c e d
b y n ! C b . r : m t : \ . . . . i t h wl 1 ; \ I Il S U! L
Mr . L e e f l l l r S l l G IIl t o h i s
r e p l y . 9 M; : r c h 1 984. c . . 7 23 } :
F o r t l i e y e a r s j ! q [ ; C ~ { ; 0! 1 , t e
: v 1 i n i s l f ) o f D d c n : c r e c e i v e d
t h c f o l l o wi n g n u m b e r s 1 ) f n : p O l " : S o f s i g h t i n g : : ; o f
Il y i n g
o b j e c t s wh i c h t h e o b $ . : . : - r v c r c o u l d n o ! i d e : 1 ( j f y : 3 . 50, 6 0D .
250, ; Iu d 3 90, n e : p ; : \ r S o f a l l ~ g e d l a ! l d j n ~ s : l r C n a t
s f p : : : . . r a l d ) i d ~ n ! j f i c d . Th e D ; : p : t r t l 1 ~ c n t \ , a s
s a ! i s f i : . - d t h : ! !
.
n o n : : o r t h e ! " , . : : IC p ) : 1 S w~ s o f : 1 Y d c f c n c ~
s j f : n i ! k : ; ~ ; : : c a n d ,
i n s u c h C : 1 S C : S , d o e s n o t m a l a . , i n r e c o r d s o f Ih e e x t e n t o f
i l s i : wc s t i g . : ! i i 1 s .
t
. , . . . . .
.
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A N N ~ ~
~ d )
To
ask the Secretary of State, if
h. e
will list
by month for each
~
~ of the last 10 years and this year to d ate the
nu mber of
occasions
C -
on which GC HQ has monitored u nid entified
flying objects
.
investigations; and if he will make a statement.
To ask ~ he Secretary of State for
F oreign and
C ommonwealth
A ffairs, what consu ltation has taken place in each of the last
five years
by his Department with F rench Service d e
Docu mentation
Exterieu r et d e C ontre- Espionnage in respect of
u nid entified
flying objects1 and if. he will make a statement.
g
I f
,
To ask the
Secretary
of
State for
F oreign and
C ommonwealth
.
A ffairs, if he will list
by
month for each of the last 10
years,
and ~ his year to d ate, the . nu mber of occasions
that MI 6 has
monitored
u nid entified
flying objects
investigations;
and if he
will make a statement.
ANNEX A TO
D/SEC(AS) /64/4
DATED
OCT
96
my
questions (official report, cols
..copy attached) about the
It has been the policy of ~ uccessiv e Gov ernments not to prov ide
information on the functions of indiv idual intelligence branches
when this discloses
~
e~ ~
r& ~ sibj li~ s.
: : : ; : : : ; ; ; : : : : : " " "
. ....~ .
,......,
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ : ; ~ ~ ~ ~ .
I" ; ~ : # & : fr
~
arrange for a
copy
of
this letter to be placed in the
N" - - O,,,L..
" .
A- 1
I
~
L f - -
~
~ ~ A
To ask the Secretary of State f or Def ence, what is the current
f unction of DI 61Ej what was its f unction
(a) ,f ive years and
(b) 10
,years ago;
and if he will make a statement.
- ~ ._ ,._ ._ .._ - .- ......- - - .- - . .- - - - -
To ask the Secretary of State f or Def en e,
what is the current
f unction of DI 65Bi what was its f unction
(a)
f ive years and
(b)
10
years ago;
To ask the
Secretary of State f or Def ence, what is the current
f unction of
DI 55; what was its f unction
(a)
f ive years and
(b)
10
years
ago; and,if
he will make a statement.
~
To ask the
Secretary f State f or Def ence
what is
the._ current
f unction
of DI 55
SI G; what was its f uncti~ n
(a) f ive years- - and
(b)
10
years
ago; and if he will make a statement.
To ask the Secretary of State f or Def ence, what is the current
f unction of DI 10; what was its f unction
(a) f ive years and
(b)
10
years ago;
ANNEX B TO
DjSEC(AS)/64j4
DATED OCT 96
I said I would write to you in response to
your recent
copy
it),
RAF Rudloe Manor consists of a parent unit and
fllodger
units:
No 1 Signals Unit
-
this RAF unit provides voice and data
Detachment of 1001 Signals Unit. This unit operates the UK
military _.communications satellite system. No 1001 SU
"
Rudloe Manor; part of the Detachment operates from a site at
Azimghur B arracks, Co!erne which
is"
close to RAF Rudloe
Manor.
(UK)
-
a RAF unit
commanding the 6 geographical P&SS Regions within the UK.
-
providing specialist Polio~ and Security
support to all RAF
-
a tri- service
unit controlling world wide defence
cO~ lJ .nications
~ _- - - - " - - - - - - - ~ " _._.._
R: ~ ~ ;)\ ~ r~ tl1~ 1it~ ~ ~ " ;~ ~ ~ ~ ~ :f
~ ~ ~ [ ~ a1:\ ~ ~ ~ :~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ (~ ~ ~ ~ " \
t..
aaQ.~ .Ll,~ .n.g~ .ttJ ;~ .j,n4ng.,,,,.,f,Q F" ..~ fl.
- e" B tfM~ " eade..,." b..
" s- ~ "
~ loper a
t~
fro
the airf ie Id at A< 0 ~ m9~ ~ ~ li.FaeJ .sC:- ~ ~ ,j < I? 5
\ ; :~ .v
r \
a. No 1001 Detachme~ t formed in Oct 91.
b. No 1 SU came into existence in
Apr 93, forming from a
staff organisation which originally arrived in Nov 85 .
B - 1
~ f : >
To ask the
Secretary of State f or Def ence, what work is currently
undertaken at RAF Rudloe Manor; what work was
undertaken
in the
last 10 years; what was,
by rank, the
establishment
f or the last
10 years; and if he will make a statement.
ANNEX C TO
D/SEC lAS)/64/4
DATED OC T 96
UFO
m a tters, Nichola s sa id tha t he wou ld be
writing to you . I
a m , however, replying a s the Minister responsible for these
The MOD s
interest in u nexpla ined a eria l
phenom ena
(Qu estion 1) is lim ited to tha t requ ired solely to esta blish
ha ve been com prom ised
by a hostile foreign m ilita ry a ircra ft.
sighting ha s provided su ch evidence, we do not m a ke
a ny fu rther
investiga tions or seek to provide a n expla na tion for wha t m ight
otherwise of extra terrestria l life form s; we rem a in
open m inded bu t
know of no evigence tha t proves these phenom ena exist. Ou r policy
we a re confident tha t ou r own Air Defence system technology ha s
RAF Sta nding Instru ctions (Qu estion 2) requ ire a ll RAF
Sta tion C om m a nders to forwa rd reports of a ll
UFO
sightings
whether m a de
by m em bers of the pu blic or ondu ty service personnel
to the Secreta ria t Air Sta ff, Bra nch 2a . Sec(AS)2a coordina te a ll
UFO
sighting reports (Qu estion 3) whether m ilita ry or civilia n
reported a nd initia te fu rther a ction a s requ ired.
Reports a re
a ssessed in consu lta tion with other MOD bra nches a s requ ired to
determ ine whether there is a ny defence interest in wha t ha s been
reported. Over the la st twelve m onths there ha s been one insta nce
of a n ondu ty m em ber of the services reporting a n u nexpla ined
a eria l sighting.
We ha ve no evidence (Qu estion 4) tha t a ny stru ctu red cra ft of
u nknown origin ha s penetra ted the UK s
Air Defence
Region. I a m
u na ble to provide the inform a tion you seek a bou t
reports of
a lleged la ndings (Qu estion 5) since records a re m a inta ined only of
UFO
sighting reports which a re not broken down fu rther into
specific ca tegories.
You a sk a t Qu estions 2a , 2b a nd 6- 12 a bou t colla bora tion a nd
consu lta tion with a nu m ber of foreign governm ents.
My Depa rtm ent
ha s regu la r discu ssions with a nu m ber of cou ntries on a wide ra nge
of topics of m u tu a l interest bu t su ch discu ssions ha ve not
extended to UFO/flying sa u cer issu es or the existence or
otherwise of extra terrestria l life form s.
I ca n confirm (Qu estion 13) tha t
m y Depa rtm ent s Scientific
Intelligence Bra nch holds no records u nder extended closu re for
researchers at Kew.
lodger unit housed within the Flying Complaints Flight (FCF) based
at RAF Rudloe Manor specialising in investigations into
misunderstandings about the role of RAF Rudloe Manor in alleged
U FO
investigations, the Station is not and never has been
Lord Howe
Martin Redmond MP
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To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St at e f o~ Def enc e, if he
will
make a
st at ~ ment on his Depar t ment s
polic y
t owar ds unident if ied
f lying
obj ec t s and on how t his has developed dur ing t he past 30 year s.
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- - . - .
To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St t e f or Def enc e, what inst r uc t ions have
been sent t o t he c ommander s of Royal Air For c e st at ions t o c ollec t
r epor t s f r om air c r ews having allegedly sight ed unident if ied
f lying obj ec t s; what inq ui~ ies
have been held f ollowing suc h
sight ings; t o what ext ent t her e has been c ollabor at ion bet ween his
Depar t ment and t he r espec t ive depar t ment s in
(a)
Canada and
(b)
t he U nit ed St at es of Amer ic a on t his pr oblem; and if he will make
a st at ement .
TO, ask
~ h7
Sec r e~ ar y of St ~ t e f or
Def enc e, how
many inst anc es
of
un~ d7 nt ~ f ~ ed
f ly~ ng obj ec t s have
b7 en r epor t ed on
by t he
def enc e
ser v~ c es of t he U nit ed
K ir igdom
dur ~ ng t he last 1 2
mont hs;
what
st eps ar e t aken t o c o- or dinat e
suc h o
ser vat ions;
and if he w; ll
make a st at ement .
To ask t he
Sec r et ar y of St at e f or
Def enc e, if he will list
by year
f or t he last 30 year s how
many st r uc t ur ed
c r af t of
unknown
or igin
h~ ve penet r at ed t he U nit ed K ingdom s
air
def enc e
r egion and if he
w~ ll make a st at ement .
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To
a~ k
t he
Sec ~ et ar y
? f
St at 7 f or
~ ef en e, how
many alleged
land~ ngs
by un~ dent ~ f ~ ed
f ly~ ng obJec t s have been
r ec or ded
in eac h
year sinc e 1 980 and t his
year t o dat e; how
many have been
invest igat ed
by
his Depar t ment s
per sonnel; whic h of t hese had
been t r ac ed
by r adar and wit h what r esult ; and if he will make a
st at ement .
To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St at e f or Def enc e, what c o- oper at ion t her e
is bet ween t he Royal Air For c e and t he U nit ed St at es A r For c e in
r espec t of est ablishing t he f ac t s r elat ing t o unident if ied
f lying
obj ec t s; and if he will make a st at ement .
. . . . _ . . . ~ . . . _ . _ - - _ . _ _ . _ ~ ~ _ . _ _ . . : . . . . " " - " - . . . . : . . . _ _ .
To ask t he Sec r et ar y
of St at e f or Def enc e, what c onsult at ion has
t aken plac e in eac h of t he last f ive year s by
his Depar t ment wit h
t he spanish Minist r y. of
Def enc e s I nt elligenc e Sec t ion of t he
Spanish Air For c es Ai: r : Oper at ions
Command in r espec t of
unident if ied f lying obj ec t s;
and if he will make a st at ement .
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To
ask. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ c ~ - ~ t a; ; - ~ i- - . st at e
f or .
D~ f enc e
, what : , c onsult at in h
s
t aken plac e
in eac h of t he last f ~ ve year s by
h~ s Depar t ment
w~ t h
t he I t alian Minist r y
of Def enc e Air For c e G ener a~
St af f
(2n~
Depar t ment )
in r espec t
of
unident if ied f lying
obJec t s; and ~ f he
will make a
st at ement .
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of St at e f or Def enc e, what c onsult at ion has
t aken plac e in eac h of t he last f ive
ye~ r s by
his Depar t ment wit h
t he Por t uguese Minist r y
of
Def enc e s Jo~ nt St ~ f f
o~
~ he Ar m; d
F
r c es I nt elligenc e
Division
in r espec t of un~ de~ t ~ f ~ ed f ly~ ng
nb~ ec t s. and if he will make
a st at ement .
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To
ask t he Se ret aryof
st at e
for
Defence,
w hat . consu l t ~ ~ ~ ? f
~ ~ : h
akeri
l ace i n each of t he
- l ast fi ve years by
hJ . s Dep art m e~ - I T3 -
.
~ he
F r~ nch M i ni st ry
of
Defence
ceri t r:
Nat i onal ~ E t ~ d e~
Sp at J . al es
i n
resp ect
of
u ni d ent i fi ed fl yi ng
obJ ect s;
and J . f he w J . l l m ake a
~ t ~ ! : _ ~ ~ ent .
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~ hat
cons~ l
t at i on h~ s
of
st at e
for
Defence, .
De
art m ent
w J . t h
To
ask
t he
S7 cr: ;~ ~ Y of
t he
l ast
fi ve yea~ s
~ Y u ~ t ~ ent l fi ed
fl yi ng
~
(t aken
p l ace
J . n
.
Ai r
F orce
i n
resp ec
0
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Royal
Au s~ ral J . an,
11
m ake
a
st at em ent .
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he
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t at i on
has
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fee
w hat
consu .
t h
.
f
st at e
for
De
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Dep art m ent
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To ask t he Secret ary of St at e for Defence, how m any record s
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cu rrent l y hel d
by
hi s Dep art m ent s Sci ent i fi c I nt el l i gence Branch
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are, u nd er ext end ed cl o~ u re for
(a)
50 years, (b)
7 5 years and
(c)
10 0 , years ; how m any of t hese record s refer t o u ni d ent i fi ed fl yi ng
. . . ~ ! ? l ~ ~ t s
i
and i f he w i l l m ake a st at em ent .
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Ti ~ ~ ~ To ask t he Chancel l or of t he Du chy of L ancast er, i f he. w i l l l i st
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t he t i
~ l es
of t he record s qf t he M i ni st r of Defe- nce
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Sci ent i fi c
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I nt el l J . gence Branch i n resp ect of corresp ond ence sent t o M r
Ni ch~ l as Red fern
by
t he Pu bl i c Record Offi ce, Kew on 21st
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Toaskt b~ - s~ cret ary of St at e for Defence,
i ~
a
l od ge: ;
U I ;i t hc: > u sed
w i t hi n hi s Dep art m ent s F l yi ng
Com p l ai ~ t s F l J . gh~
sp ecJ . ~ l J . ses
J . n
u ni d ent i fi ed fl yi ng
object
i nvest i gat i ons;
and J . f he w J . I I m ake a
st at em ent .
ANNEX A TO
D!SEC(AS)/64/4
DATED OCT 96
D/Min(AF)/
October 1996
my
questions (official report, cols ..copy attached) about the
It has been the policy of ~ uccessiv e Gov ernments not to prov ide
information on the functions of indiv idual intelligence branches
.
when this discloses the current nature of DIS responsibilities.
copy
of
A-I
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To a sk the Secreta ry of Sta te for Defence, wha t is the current
function ofDI61Ej wha t wa s its function
(a )
five y ea rs a nd
(b)
10
y ea rs a go;
a nd if he will ma ke a sta tement.
To a sk the Secreta ry of Sta te for Defen
;e,
wha t. .
is the current
.
function of DI65B; wha t wa s its function (a )
five y ea rs a nd (b)
10
y ea rs a goia nd. if he will ma ke a sta tement.
To a sk the
Secreta ry of Sta te for Defence, wha t is the current
function of DI55; wha t wa s its function
(a )
five y ea rs a nd
(b)
10
y ea rs
a go; a nd,if he will ma ke a sta tement.
. . .
To a sk the
Secreta ry of Sta te for Defence wha t is
the. _. current
function of DI55
SIG; wha t wa s its functidn
(a ) five y ea rs" a nd
(b)
10
y ea rs
a go; a nd if he will ma ke a sta tement.
To a sk the Secreta ry of Sta te for Defence, wha t is the current
function of DIIO; wha t wa s its function
(a )
five y ea rs a nd
(b)
10
y ea rs a go;
a nd if he will ma ke a sta tement.
ANNEX B TO
D/SEC(AS)/64/4
DATED OCT 96
D/Min(AF)/
October 1996
copy
units:
No 1 Signals unit
-
Detachment of 1001 Signals Unit. This unit operates the UK
military communications satellite system. No 1001 SU
Rudloe Manori part of the Detachment operates from a site at
Azimghur B arracks, Colerne which is close to RAF Rudloe
Manor.
(UK)
-
a RAF unit
-
providing specialist Policy and Security support to all RAF
-
a tri- service
B ristol University Air Squadron
-
providing air experience
and flying
training for the B UAS cadets and operating from
the airfield at Azimghur B arracks.
a. No 1001 Detachme~ t formed in Oct 91.
B - 1
c. HQ P&SS(WR) formed in Apr 93, and HQ P&SS (Southern
Region),
Halton in Sep
85.
Oct 94.
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For security reasons I am unable to
go
into anymore detail.
B-2
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To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what work is currently
undertaken at RAF Rudloe Manor; what work was undertaken in the
last 10 years; what was, b y rank, the
estab lishment
for the last
10 yearsj and if he will make a statement.
ANNEX C TO
D/SEC (AS)/64/4
DATED OC T 96
In response to a number of Questions you recently a sked a bout
UFO
ma tters, Nichola s sa id tha t he would be writing to you. I
a m, however, replying a s the Minister responsible for these
issues. A full list of the Questions is a tta ched a t Annex a nd,
for ea se of reference, I ha ve numbered them from one to fifteen.
The MOD s interest in unexpla ined a eria l phenomena
(Question 1) is limited to tha t required solely to esta blish
whether there is a ny evidence tha t the UK Air Defence Region might
ha ve been compromised by
a hostile foreign milita ry a ircra ft.
sighting ha s provided such evidence, we do not ma ke a ny further
investiga tions or seek to provide a n expla na tion for wha t might
UFO/flying
sa ucer ma tters or so fa r a s the existence or
otherwise of extra terrestria l lifeforms; we rema in open minded but
know of no evidence tha t proves these phenomena exist. Our policy
in this respect ha s not cha nged during the la st thirty yea rs since
we a re confident tha t our own Air Defence system technology ha s
evolved a nd developed to meet our needs.
RAF Sta nding Instructions (Question
2) require a ll RAF
sta tion C omma nders to forwa rd reports of a ll
UFO
sightings
whether ma de by
members of the public or on- duty service personnel
to the Secreta ria t Air Sta ff, Bra nch 2a . Sec(AS)2a coordina te a ll
UFO
sighting reports (Question 3) whether milita ry or civilia n
reported a nd initia te further a ction a s required. Reports a re
a ssessed in consulta tion with other MOD bra nches a s required to
determine whether there is a ny defence interest in wha t ha s been
reported. Over the la st twelve months there ha s been one insta nce
of a n on- duty member of the services reporting a n unexpla ined
a eria l sighting.
We ha ve no evidence (Question 4) tha t a ny structured cra ft of
unknown origin ha s penetra ted the UK s
Air Defence Region. I a m
una ble to provide the informa tion you seek a bout reports of
a lleged la ndings (Question 5)
since records a re ma inta ined only of
UFO
sighting reports which a re not broken down further into
You a sk a t Questions 2a , 2b a nd 6- 12 a bout colla bora tion a nd
consulta tion with a number of foreign governments.
My Depa rtment
ha s regula r discussions with a number of countries on a wide ra nge
of topics of mutua l interest but such discussions ha ve not
extended to UFO/flying
sa ucer issues or the existence or
otherwise of extra terrestria l life forms.
I ca n confirm (Question 13) tha t
my Depa rtment s Scientific
Intelligence Bra nch holds no records under extended closure for
researchers at Kew.
lodger unit housed within the Flying complaints Flight (FCF) based
U FO
Lord Howe
Martin Redmond MP
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ask the Secretary of State f or D ef en ~ e, i f he
wi l l
make a
statemen t on hi s D epartmen t s pol i cy towards un i den ti f i ed
f l yi n g
objects an d on how thi s has devel oped duri n g the past 30 years.
, ;
To ask the Secretary of St te f or D ef en ce, what i n structi on s have
been sen t to the comman ders of Royal Ai r Force stati on s to col l ect
reports f rom ai r crews havi n g al l egedl y si ghted un i den ti f i ed
f l yi n g objects;
what i n q ui ~ i es have been hel d f ol l owi n g such
si ghti n gs;
to what exten t there has been col l aborati on between hi s
D epartmen t an d the respecti ve departmen ts i n
(a)
C an ada an d
(b)
the Un i ted States of Ameri ca on thi s probl em; an d i f he wi l l make
a statemen t.
To. ask
~ h~
Secre~ ary
o~
St~ te f or
D ef en ce, how man y i n stan ces of
un 1 d~ n t1 f 1 ed
f l Y1 n g obJects have been
reported on
by the def en ce
serV1 ces of the Un i ted Ki n gdom duri n g the l ast 1 2 mon ths; what
steps are taken to co- ordi n ate
such
observati n s
an d i f he wi l l
make a statemen t.
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v
To ask the Secretary of State f or D ef en ce, i f he wi l l l i st
by year
f or the l ast 30 years
~ ow ma~ y structu~ ed craf t of un kn own
ori gi n
h~ ve pen etrated the Un 1 ted K1 n gdom s
a1 r def en ce
regi on ; an d i f he
w1 l l make a statemen t.
To
a~ k
the
Sec~ etary
~ f
Stat~ f or
~ ef en ce, how man y al l eged
l an d1 n gs
by un 1 den t1 f 1 ed
f l Y1 n g obJects have b en recorded i n each
year s~ n ce 1 980
a~ d
thi s year to date; how
man y have been
1 n vest1 gated
by
h1 s D epartmen t s
person n el ; whi ch of these had
been traced
by
radar an d wi th what resul t; an d i f he wi l l make a
statemen t.
To ask the Secretary of State f or D ef en ce, what co- operati on there
i s between the Royal Ai r Force an d the Un i ted States A r Force i n
respect of establ i shi n g the f acts rel ati n g to un i den ti f i ed f l yi n g
objects; an d i f he wi l l make a statemen t.
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/
/
To ask the Secretary
of State f or D ef en ce, what con sul tati on has
taken pl ace i n each of the l ast f i ve
yea~ s by
hi s D 7partmen t
wi th
the Span i sh Mi n i stry
of
D ef en ce s I n tel 1 1 gen ce Sect1 0n of the
Span i sh
Ai r Forces Ai ~ .
Operati on s C omman d i n respect of
un i den ti f i ed f l yi n g
objects;
an d i f he wi l l make a statemen t.
To
ask the
Secretary
of State f or.
D ef en ce , what
.
con sul t: . atroi i l i - ~ S
taken pl ace
i n each of the l ast f 1 ve years by
h1 s
D epartmen t
w1 th
the
I tal i an
Mi n i stry
of
D ef en ce
Ai r Force Gen eral
Staf f (2n ~
D epartmen t)
i n respect
of
un i den ti f i ed f l yi n g
objects;
an d 1 f he
wi l l
make a
statemen t.
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To ask the Secretary
of State f or.
D ef en ce, what.
con sul tati on h~ s
taken pl ace
i n each of the l ast f 1 ve years by
h1 s D epartmen t
w1 th
the Portuguese
Mi n i stry
of D e~ en ce s Joi n t St~ f f o~
~ he
ArI D 7d
Forces
I n tel l i gen ce
D i vi si on
1 n respect of un 1 den t1 f 1 ed f l Y1 n g
obje~ ts,
an d i f he wi l l make a sta~ emen t.
"
T
sk the Se retary
of
State
for
Defence,
what.consultatipn h~ s
.
okan
lace in each
of
the last
five years by
h~ s
Departm ent.w~ th
\ .^
~ heeF r~ nch Ministry
of
Defence
centr~
National
~ tE tud e~
Spat~ ales
\ v
in
respect
of
unid entified
flying
obJects;
and ~ f he w~ ll m ake a
, _m _ "
._...m ..~ : t; tf: : I l~ l1 ! : ~ ._~ . .... ..m m
.
I
,
,
what
consultation
h~ s
t
y
of
state
for
Defence,
h Departm ent
~ ~ th
T o
ask
the
s: cre
a~
of
the
last
five
years
~ y ~ ~ entified
fly~ ng
taken
place
~ n ea~
Air
F orce
in
respect
0
un~
the
Royal
Austral~ an ll
m ake
a
statem ent.
objects;
and
if
he
W ~
what
consultation
h~ s
f
state
for
Defence, .
Departm ent
w~ th
T .o
ask
the
s: cretarhy
o~
the
last fi,! e
years
bty
o~ ~ ~ n~ .. d .
entified
k
.place~ n
eac
fence
~ n
respec
I )
;: we~ eala~ d s ~ ini~ t~
~ ;
~ ill
m ake
a
statem ent.
.
.
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T o ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how m any record s
currently held
by
his Departm ent s Scientific I ntelligence Branch
are und er extend ed closure for
(a)
50 years, (b)
75 years and
(c)
1 0 0 years; how m any of these record s refer to unid entified flying
objects;
and if he will m ake a statem ent.
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T o ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of L al1 caster, if he will list
1 ;f
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the titles of the record s qf
the Ministry of Def nce
1
s Scientific
~ . .? I ntelligence Branch in respect of correspond ence sent to Mr
Nicholas Red fern by
the Public Record Office, Kew on 2 1 st
Septem ber 1 9 9 0 .
)
T o ask the Secretary
of state for
Def: nce ,
i~
a lod ge:
u~ it
h~ used
within his
Departm ent ~ F ly~ ng
co~ pla~ nts F l~ gh~
spec~ ~ l~ ses
~ n
unid entified flying
obJect
~ nvest~ gat~ ons;
and ~ f he w~ ll m ake a
statem ent.
ANNEX A TO
DjSEC(AS)/64/4
DATED OCT 96
my
questions (official report, cols ..copy attached) about the
It has been the policy of Succ ssive Governments not to provide
when this discloses the current nature of DIS responsibilities.
copy
of
A- I
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To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what is the current
function ofDI61E; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
. years ago;
and if he wil l make a statement.
- - - . - - - - - - " " " - - - - - . - ~ ,_ . _ . . _ - - _ . . . . _ . _ ~ _ " . _ . . _ _ . _ . . _ . . _ _ n. . . . _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ h_ _
" _ ~ _ _ "
To ask the Secretary of State for Defen~ e, wha~ is the current
functign of DI65B; what was its function (a)
five years and
(b)
10
y~ ars ago;
To ask the
Secretary of State for Defence, what is the current
function of
DI55; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years
ago;
and.
if he wil l make a statement.
,
To ask the
Secretary of State for Defence what is
the. . ,current
function of DI55
SIG; what was its functi~ n
(a)
five
years. -
nd
(b)
10
years
ago; and if he wil l make a statement.
. . - . . . . - . . - - . . . - . . - . - - - "
function of DI10; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
ANNEX B TO
D/SEC(AS) /64/4
. . . ". .
DATED OCT 96
copy
units:
No 1 Signals Unit
-
Detachment of 1001 Siqnals Unit. This unit operates the UK
military. ,. communications satellite system. No 1001 SU
,
Rudloe Manori part of the Detachment operates from a site at
,Azimghur B arracks, Colerne which is close to RAF Rudloe
Manor.
(UK)
-
a RAF unit
-
providing specialist Policy and Security support to all RAF
-
a tri- service
B ristol University Air Squadron
-
providing air experience
and flying~ raining for the B UAS cadets and operating from
the airfield at Azimghur B arracks.
a. No 1001 Detachme~ tformed in Oct 91.
B - 1
c . HQ P&SS(WR) formed in Apr 93, and HQ P&SS (Southern
Region), whic h was then at RAF Rudloe Manor, moved to RAF
Halton in Sep 85.
d. No 6 SU, a messa~ e switc hing unit, c losed in
Oc t 94.
For sec urity reasons I am unable to
go
into anymore detail,
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To ask the
Se cre tary of State for De fe nce , what work is
curre ntly
unde rtake n at RAF Rudloe Manor; what work was
unde rtake n in the
last 10
ye ars; what was,
by rank, the
e stablishme nt
for the last
10 ye arsi and if he will make a state me nt.
ANNEX C TO
D/SEC (AS) 164/4
DATED OC T 96
D/USofS)/
October 1996
In response to a nu m ber of Qu estions
you recently a sked a bou t
UFO
m a tters, Nichola s sa id tha t he wou ld be writing to you . I
a m , however, replying a s the Minister
responsible for these
The MOD s interest in u nexpla ined
a eria l phenom ena
(Qu estion 1) is lim ited to tha t requ ired
solely to esta blish
ha ve been com prom ised
by
a hostile foreign m ilita ry a ircra ft.
sighting ha s provided su ch evidence, we do not m a ke a ny fu rther
investiga tions or seek to provide a n
expla na tion for wha t m ight
otherwise of extra terrestria l lifeform si we rem a in open m inded bu t
know of no evigence tha t proves these
phenom ena exist. Ou r
policy
we a re confident tha t ou r own Air Defence
system technology ha s
RAF Sta nding Instru ctions (Qu estion
2) requ ire a ll RAF
Sta tion C om m a nders to forwa rd reports of a ll
UFO
sightings
whether m a de
by
m em bers of the pu blic or ondu ty service personnel
to the Secreta ria t Air Sta ff, Bra nch 2a .
Sec(AS)2a coordina te a ll
UFO
sighting reports (Qu estion 3) whether
m ilita ry or civilia n
reported a nd initia te fu rther a ction a s requ ired. Reports a re
a ssessed in consu lta tion with other MOD bra nches a s requ ired to
determ ine whether there is a ny defence interest in wha t ha s been
reported. Over the la st twelve m onths there ha s been one insta nce
of a n ondu ty m em ber of the services
reporting a n u nexpla ined
a eria l sighting.
We ha ve no evidence (Qu estion
4) tha t
a ny stru ctu red cra ft of
u nknown origin ha s penetra ted the UK s
Air Defence Region. I a m
u na ble to provide the inform a tion you seek a bou t reports of
a lleged la ndings (Qu estion 5) since records a re m a inta ined
only of
UFO
sighting reports which a re not broken down fu rther into
You a sk a t Qu estions 2a , 2b a nd 6- 12
a bou t colla bora tion a nd
consu lta tion with a nu m ber of foreign governm ents.
My Depa rtm ent
ha s regu la r discu ssions with a nu m ber of cou ntries on a wide ra nge
of topics of m u tu a l interest bu t su ch discu ssions ha ve not
extended to UFO/flying sa u cer issu es or the existence or
otherwise of extra terrestria l life form s.
I ca n confirm (Qu estion 13) tha t
m y Depa rtm ent s Scientific
Intelligence Bra nch holds no records u nder extended closu re for
researchers at Kew.
lodger unit housed within the Flying Complaints Flight (FCF) based
U FO
investigations, the Station is not and never has been
Lord Howe
Martin Redmond MP
1 -
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To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St at e f o~ Def enc e, i f b e wi ll
make a
st at ~ ent on hi s Dep ar t ment s p oli c y t owar ds uni dent i f i ed
f lyi ng
ob jec t s and on how t hi s has develop ed dur i ng t he p ast 3 0 year s.
t .
- - ~ - - - - - - ~ ~ - - - -
- _ . . ~ . _ _ _ _ m_ . _ _ . . _
_ . _
- - - - - -
. . , - , _ . _ . _ . . - . ~ . _ . _ . . ~ - - -
~ ~
To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St t e f or Def enc e, what i nst r uc t i ons have
b een sent t o t he c ommander s of Royal Ai r For c e st at i ons t o c ollec t
r ep or t s f r om ai r c r ews havi ng allegedly si ght ed uni dent i f i ed
f lyi ng ob jec t s; what i nq ui ~ i es
have b een held f ollowi ng suc h
si ght i ngs; t o what ext ent t her e has b een c ollab or at i on b et ween hi s
Dep ar t ment and t he r esp ec t i ve dep ar t ment s i n
(a)
Canada and
(b )
t he uni t ed St at es of Amer i c a on t hi s p r ob lem; and i f he wi ll make
a st at ement .
TO, ask
~ h7
Sec r e~ ar y of St ~ t e f or
Def enc e,
how
many i nst anc es
of
un~ d~ nt ~ f ~ ed
f ly~ ng ob jec t s have b een
r ep or t ed on
b y t he def en
ser v~ c es of t he Uni t ed
Ki ngdom dur i ng t he last 1 2
mont hs;
what c e
st ep s ar e t aken t o c o- or di nat e
suc h
ob ser vat i ns.
and i f he wi ll
make a st at ement .
. ,
To ask t he
Sec r et ar y of St at e f or
Def enc e,
i f he wi ll li st
b y year
f or t he last 3 0 year s
~ ow ma~ y st r ~ c t u: ed c r af t of unknown
or i gi n
h?ve p enet r at ed t he Un~ t ed K~ ngdom s a~ r
def enc e
r egi on; and i f he
w~ ll make a st at ement .
. _ . _ - - _ . ~ . ~ ~ _ . . - . . _ . ~ - ~ . .
- . . ~ , " - - - - - - - - .
To
a~ k
t he
Sec : et ar r
~ f
St at 7 f or
gef enc e, how
many alleged
land~ n~ s b y un~ dent ~ f ~ ~ d
f ly~ ng ob Jec t s have b een r ec or ded i n eac h
year s~ nc e 1 980 and t h~ s year t o dat e; how
many have b een
i nvest i gat ed
b y
hi s Dep ar t ment s
p er sonnel; whi c h of t hese had
b een t r ac ed
b y r adar and wi t h what r esult ; and i f he wi ll make a
st at ement .
-
To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St at e f or Def enc e, what c o- op er at i on t her e
i s b et ween t he Royal Ai r For c e and t he Uni t ed St at es A r For c e i n
r esp ec t of est ab li shi ng t he f ac t s r elat i ng t o uni dent i f i ed f lyi ng
ob jec t s; and i f he wi ll make a st at ement .
. - _ . _ _ . , - - _ . _ . _ . . _ - - - - ~ - - - - - - ; . . . _ . . : . . . , ~ - , -
To ask t he Sec r et ar y of St at e f or , Def enc e, what .
c onsult at i on
h?s
t aken p lac e i n eac h of t he last f ~ ve year s b y
h~ s Dep ar t ment
w~ t h
t he Sp ani sh Mi ni st r y, of
Def en?e s I nt elli g~ nc e Sec t i on of t he
sp ani sh Ai r For c es Ai r : op er at ~ ons, c omman< : i
~ n r esp ec t of
uni dent i f i ed f lyi ng
ob jec t s;
and ~ f he w~ ll make a st at ement .
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" " - - - - " ~ " _ . _ - - - - - - - - - - - - "
To
aSk:
~ ~ ~ - ~ ~ ; r - et a; ; - - ~ f - ~ t at e f or D~ f e~ c e
I
what c onsult
i i on
h~ s-
t aken p lac e
i n eac h of t he
last f i ve year s b y
hi s Dep ar t ment
w~ t h
t he I t ali an Mi ni st r y
of
Def enc e
Ai r For c e G ener al St af f
(2n~
Dep ar t ment )
i n r esp ec t
of
uni dent i f i ed f lyi ng
ob jec t s;
and ~ f he
wi ll make a
st at ement .
~ _ . . . _ ~ . . ~ _ , _ ~ f i _ " . .
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- - . . . . . ~ . . . _ . . - . _ - . ~ - - - - - ~ - - - - - - . . . . ~ . . . . . . . -
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of St at e f or , Def enc e,
what c onsult at i on has
t aken p lac e i n eac h of t he last f ~ ve year s b y
hi s Dep ar t ment
wi t h
t he Por t uguese
Mi ni st r y
of
Def enc e s Joi nt St af f of t he Ar med
For c es I nt elli genc e
Di vi si on
i n r esp ec t of uni de~ t i f i ed f lyi ng
nhi ec t s. and i f he wi ll make a st a~ ement .
. .
~ h )
ask th e Se retary
of State
for. D f! f~ . n c e ,
wh at.
c on sult
, ~ ; p n
, . ~ s. .
. . .
To
en
lac e i n eac h of th e
"last fi ve year~
by
h l. s D ep artm ~ ~ 1 : . oW l. t. ll,
fh :
F r~ n c h
Mi n i stry
of D ef
n c e
Cen tre
N atl. on al ~ E tud e~
Sp atl. ales
i n
resp ec t
of
un i d en ti fi ed
flyi n g
objec ts;
an d l. f h e wl. I !
m ake a
~ ta, ~ ~ i n ~ ~ t. ____.
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h as

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wh at
c on sul
tatl. O n .
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of
State
for
D efen c e,
D e artm en t
wl. th
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ask
th eS7 c r: ; ~ ~ O f
th e.
last.
fi ve yea~ s
~ y
U : : i ~ en t
fi ed
flyi n g
,
~
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l
taken
p lac e
l. n .
I
Ai r
F orc e
l. n
resp ec
0
i
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th e
Royal
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m ake
a
statem en t.
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ask
th e s~ c reta~ yo~
th e
last fi ! e
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~ Y ofl. ~ i d en ti f~ ed
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p lac e
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To ask th e Sec retary of State for D efen c e, h ow m an y rec ord s
f
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by
h i s D ep artm en t s Sc i en ti fi c I n telli gen c e Bran c h
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(a)
50 years, (b)
7 5 years an d
(c )
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1 0 0 years ; h ow m an y of th ese rec ord s refer to un i d en ti fi ed flyi n g
I
objec ts; an d i f h e wi ll m ake a statem en t.
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r, i f h e wi ll li st
----. --. . .
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th e ti ~ les of th e rec ord s ~ f
th e Mi n i stry of D ef
bc e
s.
Sc i en ti fi c
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N i c h ~ las Red fern
by
th e Publi c Rec ord O ffi c e, Kew on 21 st
S~ ~ ~ = ~ ! ~ . 1 9 9 0
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se~ retary
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D ef~ n c e ,
i ~
a
lod ge: : u~ l
t h ~ used
wi th i n
h i s
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l. n
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MINISTER REPLYING:MINISTER OF STATE FOR
THE ARMED FORCES
PQ
REFERENCE:2134H
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY
BRANCH: 12:00 ON WEDNESDAY 16 OCTOBER
1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)2
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE NAME AND TELEPHONE
NUMBER OF THE DESK OFFICER WHO DRAFTS
THE ANSWER AND THE NAME AND TELEPHONE
NUMBER OF THE GRADES/ONE STAR WHO
APPROVES THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND
(LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
To ask the Prime Minister, if he will
allocate to a department the
assessments of the non air-defence
implications associated with
unidentified flying objects; and if he
will make a statement. (40822)
Answer: The air defence and air
traffic implications of unidentified
flying objects are the responsibility
of the MOD and the CAA respectively.
The Government has no plans to allocate
resources to researching
extraterrestrial phenomena.
c a n n o t J : U l e o u t t h e p o s s i b i l i t y
t h a t
t h e y
m a y
h a v e o n r e c o r d i n o t h e r c o n t e x t s
i n d i v i d u a l s w h o h a v e s e p a r a t e l y
m a d e a s t u d y o f U F O s . I t w o u l d t h e r e f o r e s e e m
m o s t a p p r o p r i a t e
t o a d h e r e t o t h e s t a n d a r d
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trom the Se c r ta~
of Stat~ to Martin
Re d mond M~
In my
re pl y
of 1 7 Oc tobe r to your
Parl iame ntary
Que stion asking if I woul d l ist by month for e ac h of the
past 1 0 ye ars,
and this
ye ar
to d ate , the numb r of
o~ ~ asions
that MI6 has monitore d unid e ntifie d fl ying
obje c ts
inve stigations, and if I woul d make a state me nt,
I promise d
to write to you shortl y. I al so promise d to
re pl y
to a simil ar que stion,
original l y put to the
Se c re tary
of State for De fe nc e ,
with re spe c t
to GCHQ, for
whic h I have
Ministe rial re sponsibil ity-
As you may
know, it has be e n the l ong- stand ing
pOl ic y
of suc c e ssive
Gove rnme nts not to c omme nt on the
ope rations
of the inte l l ige nc e and se c urity age nc ie s. I
propose
to
maintain that pol ic y.
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BACKGROUND NOTE TO PQ
2117H
This PQ is one of 26 tabled
by
Martin Redmond about, directly or
indirectly, UFOs. Given the large number of questions and the
fact that the House prorogues on Thursday, there is insufficient
time to collect the information and assess the collective worth of
the replies. It is suggested that Min(AF) writes to Mr Redmond
and an answer to this effect is attached.
Sec(AS)2 have already prov ded more detailed background to this
raft of PQs.
RUDLOE MANOR/FCF
PQ 2117H
last 10 years;
what was, by
rank, the establishment for the last
10 years; and if he will make a statement.
PQ
2130H
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if a lodger unit housed
within his Departments Flying Complaints Flight specialises in
unidentified flying object investigations; and if he will make a
statement.
DRAFT ANSWERS TO PQs 2103H,2105H,2110H,2113H,2120H,2122H
PQ
TYPE: ORDINARY WRITTEN
NO SUPPLEMENTARIES REQUIREQ
DATE FOR RETURN TO PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:00 ON WEDNESDAY 16 AND
THURSDAY 17 OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH: DI SEC
COPY ADDRESSEES: SEC(AS)
MPs DETAILS: MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
2103H
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence
,
what is the current
function of DI61E; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
DRAFT ANSWER: I will write to the Hon Member.
2105H
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what consultation has
taken place in each of the last five years by
his Department with
the Spanish Ministry of Defences Intelligence Section of the
Spanish Air Forces Air Ope~ ations Command in respect of
unidentified flying objects; and if he will make a statement.
2110H
function of DI55 SIG; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10 years ago;
2113H
function of DI65B; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
2120H
function of Dl10; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
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PQs 2103H, 2105H. 2110H. 2113H. 2120H. 2122H
These are six of 26 PQs on UFO issues raised
by
Martin Redmond. In
view of this number Sec(AS) wish to coordinate a look at the
collective worth of what might be said in
reply
from MOD and other
departments. These six questions, aimed at the intelligence role
in UFO reporting, ask for information on organisational details of
the DIS which are classified, and its UFO intelligence exchanges
with allies which are non- existent. We will be unable to divulge
any
detailed organisational information but should be able to make
a general contribution to a reply
coordinated
by Sec(AS) which
will also address the non- intelligence aspects.
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PARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS TABLED BY MARTIN REDMOND
TYPE: ALL ORDINARY WRITTEN
PQ 2100H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2 Copy:
DAO
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what instructions have
been sent to the commanders of Royal Air Force stations to collect
reports from air crews having allegedly sighted unidentified
flying objects; what inquiries have been held following such
sightings; to what extent there has been collaboration between his
Department and the respective departments in
(a)
Canada and
(b)
the United States of America on this problem; and if he will make
a statement.
PQ 2101H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2
Copy
to: DI See
Sec(O)
DAO
his Department with
the Royal Australian Air Force in respect of unidentified
flying
objects; and if he will make a statement.
PQ 2103H
Lead:
Copy:
DI(Sec)
Sec(AS)2
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
PQ 2104H (TRANSFERREP TO FCO)
Lead: Sec(AS)
Copy:
To ask the Secretary of State, if he will list
by month for each
of the last 10 years and this year to date the number of occasions
on which GCHQ has monitored unidentified
flying objects
investigations; and if he will make a statement.
"
PQ 2105H
Lead:
Copy:
DI(Sec)
Sec(AS)
Lead: See
(AS)
Copy:
DI See
DIO
DAO
his Department with
the Spanish Ministry of Defences Intelligence Section of the
Spanish Air Forces Air Operations Command in respect of
PQ 2106H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2
Copy:
DI See
See(O)
DAO
his Department with
New Zealands Ministry of Defence in respect of unidentified
flying objects; and if he will make a statement.
PQ 2109H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS) Copy:
DAO
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will make a
statement on his Departments policy towards unidentified flying
objects and on how this has developed during the past 30 years.
PQ 2110H
Lead:
Copy:
DI(Sec)
Sec(AS)
function of DI55 SIG; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10 years ago;
.
PO 2111H
Lead:
Copy:
DI(Sec)
See
(AS)
Lead: See
(AS)
Copy:
DI See
DIO
DAO
Sec(AS)l
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what co-operation there
is between the Royal Air Force and the united States Air Force in
respect of establishing the facts relating to unidentified flying
PO 2112H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2 Copy: DAO
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many instances of
unidentified flying objects have been reported on by
the defence
services of the united Kingdom during the last 12 months; what
steps are taken to co-ordinate such observations; and if he will
make a statement.
PO 2113H
Lead:
Copy:
DI(Sec)
See
(AS)
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
PO 2114H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2 Copy:
DI See
DIO
DAO
his Department with
the Portuguese Ministry of Defence s Joint Staff of the Armed
Forces Intelligence Division in respect of unidentified flying
objects, and if he will make a statement.
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PQ 2117H
Lead:
Lead: CS Logs Command
Copy: CS PTC
See
(AS)
CS PTC
last 10 years;
what was, by
rank, the establishment for the last
10 years;
PQ 2118H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2 Copy:
DAO
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list
by year
for the last 30 years how many structured craft of unknown origin
have penetrated the united Kingdoms air defence region; and if he
PQ 2120H
Lead:
Copy:
DI Sec
Sec(AS)2
function of DIIO; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
PQ 2122H
Lead:
Copy
to:
DI Sec
Sec(AS)
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
PQ 2123H
Lead:
Copy:
Copy:
DI See
D Se(Air)
DIO
DAO
Sec(AS)
CS STC
his Department with
the French Ministry of Defence Centre National dEtudes Spatiales
in respect of unidentified flying objects; and if he will make a
statement.
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PQ 2127H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2 CQPY:
DI See
DIO
DAO
his Department with
the Italian Ministry of Defence Air Force General Staff (2nd
Department) in respect of unidentified flying objects; and if he
PQ 2130H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)
Lead: CS Logs Command or CS PTC
Copy:
See
(AS)
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if a lodger unit housed
within his Departments Flying ComplaintsFlight specialises in
unidentified flying object investigations; and if he will make a
statement.
PQ 2131H
Lead:
Copy:
DI(Sec)
Sec(AS), CS(RM)
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To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many records
currently held by
his Departments Scientific Intelligence Branch
are under extended closure for
(a)
50 years, (b)
75 years and
(c)
100 years; how many of these records refer to unidentified flying
PQ 2134H
Lead:
Copy:
Sec(AS)2
To ask the Prime Minister, if he will allocate to a department the
assessments of the non air-defence implications associated with
PQ 2135H
Lead:
Copy:
CT(Pers)
Sec(AS), PUS
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, to what post Mr
Nicholas Pope was appointed by
his Department after his tour of
duty with Secretariat (Air Staff) Department 2A; and if he will
make a statement.
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PQ 2136H
Lead:
Copy:
Lead: Duchy of Lancaster 111111111111
Copy:
CS(Records Management) !
Sec(AS)
To ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, i f he wi ll li st
the ti tles of the records of the Mi ni stry of Defence s Sci enti fi c
I ntelli gence Branch i n respect of correspondence sent to Mr
Ni cholas Redfern
by
the Publi c Record Offi ce, Kew on 21st
September 1990.
PQ 2142H
Lead:
Copy:
Copy:
DAO
Sec(AS) 2
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many alleged
landi ngs by
uni denti fi ed flyi ng objects have been recorded i n each
year si nce 1980 and thi s year to date; how many have been
i nvesti gated by
hi s Department s personnel; whi ch of these had
been traced
by
radar and wi th what result; and i f he wi ll make a
statement.
FCO PQs
To ask the Secretary of State for Forei gn and Commonwealth
Affai rs, what consultati on has taken place i n each of the last
fi ve years by
hi s Department wi th French Servi ce de Documentati on
Exteri eur et de Contre-Espi onnage i n respect of uni denti fi ed
flyi ng objects; and i f he wi ll make a statement.
To ask the Secretary of State for Forei gn and Commonwealth
Affai rs, i f he wi ll li st
by
month for each of the last 10 years,
and thi s year to date, the number of occasi ons that MI 6 has
moni tored uni denti fi ed flyi ng objects i nvesti gati ons; and i f he
wi ll make a statement.
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PQ
REFERENCE:21 00H
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 1 2:00 ON THURSDAY 1 7
OCTOBER 1 996
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
441 To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what instructions
have been sent to the commanders of Royal Air Force stations to
collect reports from air crews having allegedly sighted
unidentified flying objects; what inquiries have been held
following such sightings; to what extent there has been
collaboration between his Department and the respective
departments in
(a)
Canada and
(b)
the United States of Am~ ica on
this problem; and if he will make a statement. [4091 7]~
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REFERENCE:2101H
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
311TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what consultation
has taken place in each of the last five years by
his Department
with the Royal Australian Air Force in respect of unidentified
flying objects; and if he will make a statement. [41042]
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PQ
REFERENCE:2103H
PQ
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:DI(SEC)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS)2
,
461TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what is the current
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
and if he will make a statement. [41037]~
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PQ
REFERENCE: 2104H
PQ TYPE:Ordi nary wri tten
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:~
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
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321TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, i f he wi ll li st
by
month for each of the last 10 years and thi s year to date the
number of occasi ons on whi ch GCHQ has moni tored uni denti fi ed
flyi ng objects i nvesti gati ons; and i f he wi ll make a statement.
[40922J~
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PQ
REFERENCE:2105H
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH: D~ C
) .5iEC:.- ~ s )
COpy ADDRESSEE(S) :SEC(AS)
331TO as k the Secretary of State for Defence, what cons ultation
has taken place in each of the las t five years by
his Department
with the Spanis h Minis try of Defence s Intelligence Section of the
Spanis h Air Forces Air Operations Command in res pect of
unidentified flying objects ; and if he will make a s tatement.
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PQ
REFERENCE:2106H
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:00 ON WEDNESDAY 16
OCTOBER 1996. PLEASE CALL IF THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
his Department
with New Zealands Ministry of Defence in respect of unidentified
flying objects; and if he will make a statement. [41043]~
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PQ REFERENCE:2I09H
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S) :
351To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will make a
statement on his Departments
policy towards unidentified flying
objects and on how this has qeveloped during the past 30 years.
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UR GE N T A CT I ON R E QUI R E D
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MI N I ST E R R E P L Y I N G:MI N I ST E R OF ST A T E FOR T HE A R ME D FOR CE S
P Q
R E FE R E N CE :2110H
P Q T Y P E :Ordinary W
ritten
SUP P L E ME N T A R I E S A R E R E QUI R E D? N O
DA T E FOR R E T UR N T O T HE P A R L I A ME N T A R Y BR A N CH: 12:00 ON W E DN E SDA Y 16
OCT OBE R 1996.P L E A SE CA L L I F T HI S DE A DL I N E CA N N OT BE ME T .
L E A D BR A N CH:DI (SE C)
COpy A DDR E SSE E (S):SE C(A S)
P L E A SE N OT E T HA T T HE N A ME A N D T E L E P HON E N UMBE R OF T HE DE SK OFFI CE R
W HO DR A FT S T HE A N SW E R A N D T HE N A ME A N D T E L E P HON E N UMBE R OF T HE
GR A DE SlON E ST A R W HO A P P R OVE S T HE A N SW E R MUST BE QUOT E D.
MP S DE T A I L S:MR MA R T I N R E DMON D (L A BOUR ) (DON VA L L E Y )
211T o ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what is the current
function of DI 55 SI G; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10 years ago;
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REFERENCE:2lllH
PQ
OCTOBER 19 9 6- please let us know if you have any problems reaching
this deadline.
LEAD BRANCH: D~ EC
:; a.
d~ )
COpy ADDRESSEE(S) :SEC(AS)
361TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what co- operation
there is between the Royal Air Force and the United States Air
Force in respect of establishing the facts relating to
unidentified flying objects; and if he will make a statement. .
[409 18) ~
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REFERENCE:2112H
PQ
OCTOBER 1996.PLEASE CALL THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS) 2
COpy ADDRESSEE(S) :
GRADE SlONE STAR WHO APPROV E~ THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DONdV ALLEY)
491To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many instances
of unidentified flying objects have been reported on
by
the
defence services
of. the United Kingdom during the last 12 months;
what steps are taken to co-ordinate such observations; and if he
will make a statement. [ 40910] \ .,/ / " "
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PQ
REFERENCE:2113H
OCTOBER 1996
-
please let us know if you have any problems meeting
this deadline.
LEAD BRANCH:DI SEC
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS)
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOHD (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
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PQ
REFERENCE:2114H
OCTOBER 1996.PLEASE CALL IF THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
SOl
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what consultation
his Department
with the Portuguese Ministry.of Defences Joint Staff of the Armed
Forces Intelligence Division in respect of unidentified flying
objects; and if he will make a statement. [41051]
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MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
WEDNESDAY 16 OCTOBER 1996
MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
last 10 years; what was, by rank, the establishment for the last
10 years; and if he will make a statement. [40823]
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PQ
REFERENCE:2118H
OCOTBER 1996. PLEASE CALL IF THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
MP S
DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
521TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list
by
year for the last 30 years how many structured craft of unknown
origin have penetrated the United Kingdom s air defence region;
and if he will make a statement. [40919]/
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PQ
REFERENCE:2120H
LEAD BRANCH:DI(SEC)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS)2
function of DIIO; what was its function
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
and if he will make a statement. [41039]v/
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PQ REFERENCE:2122H
OCTOBER 1996
-
PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM MEETING
THIS DEADLINE
LEAD BRANCH:DI SEC
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS)
~
MPS
4olTo ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what is the current
(a)
five years and
(b)
10
years ago;
[41041]
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REFERENCE:2123H
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):CMD SEC HQ STC
MPS DETAILS:MR RH9~aGAN
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231TO Qsk the Secretary of State f or Def ence, what consultation
has taken place in each of the last f ive years by
his Department
with the French Ministry of Def ence Centre National dEtudes
Spatiales in respect of unidentif ied
f lying objects; and if he
will make a statement. [41048]
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MINISTER REPLYING: MINISTER OF STATE FOR THE ARMED FORCES
PQ REFERENCE: 2127H
PQ TYPE: Ordinary Written
SUPPLEMENTARIES ARE REQUIRED1" NO
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12: 00 ON WEDNESDAY 16
OCTOBER 19 9 6- PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS MEETING
THIS DEADLINE
LEAD BRANCH: SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
GRADE 5/0NE STAR WHO APPROVES THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
MPS
DETAILS: MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
his Department
with the Italian Ministry of Defence Air Force General Staff (2nd.
Department) in respect of unidentified
flying objects; and if he
will make a statement. [41049 ]/
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PQ
REFERENCE:2130H
OCTOBER 1996. PLEASE CALL
IFTHIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
LEAD BRANCH: ~ , 1Nt~ .
Cs
r- Te. . . . .
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
261TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if a lodger unit
housed within his Departments Flying Complaints Flight
specialises in unidentified flying object investigations; and if
he will make a statement. [41036]~ /
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REFERENCE:2131H
LEAD BRANCH: W S~ G. .
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COPY ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS), CS(RM)
GRADE SlONE STAR WHO APPROVES THE ANSWER
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BE QUOTED.
271Toask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many records
currently held
by
his Departments Scientific Intelligence Branch
are under extended closure for
(a)
50 years, (b)
75 years and
(c)
100 years; how many of these records refer to unidentified flying
objects; and if he will make a statement. [40911]
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MINISTER REPLYING: MINISTER OF STATE FOR
THE ARMED FORCES
PQ REFERENCE: 2134H
PQ TYPE: Ordinary Written
BRANCH: 12: 00 ON WEDNESDAY 16 OCTOBER
1996
LEAD BRANCH: SEC(AS)2
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
NUMBER OF THE GRADE 5
I
ONE STAR WHO
MP S
DETAILS: MR MARTIN REDMOND
implications. associated with
will make a statement. (40822 ). . . . . . . /
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PQ
REFERENCE:2135H
LEAD BRANCH:CT(PERS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS), PUS
MPS
DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOMD (LABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
221TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, to what post Mr
Nicholas Pope was appointed by his Department after his tour of
duty with Secretariat (Air Staff) Department 2A; and if he will
make a statement. [40920 ]/-
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DEFENCE PROCUREMENT
PQ REFERENCE:2136H
PQ TYPE:ordinary Written
1996.
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
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COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
NUMBER OF THE GRADE 5 lONE STAR WHO
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND
To ask the Chanc ellor of the Duc hy of
Lanc aster, if he will list the titles
of the rec ords of the Ministry of
Def enc es Sc ientif ic Intelligenc e
Branc h in respec t of c orrespondenc e
sent to Mr Nic holas Redf ern
by
the
Public R c ord Of f ~ c e, kew on 21st
September 1990.
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PQ
REFERENCE:2142H
PQ TYPE:Ordi nary wri t t en
DATE FOR RETURN TO THE PARLIAMENTARY BRANCH: 12:0 0 ON WEDNESDAY 16
OCTOBER 1996
-
THIS DEADLINE
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
GRADE 5/ 0 NE STAR WHO APPROVES THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
411To ask t he Secret ary of St at e for Defence, how many al l eged
l andi ngs by
uni dent i fi ed
fl yi ng object s have been recorded i n each
year si nce 1980 a~ d t hi s year t o dat e; how many have been
i nvest i gat ed
by
hi s Depart ment s
personnel ; whi ch of t hese had
been t raced
by radar,ft nd
wi t h what resul t ; and i f he wi l l make a
st at ement . [40 921
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2100H
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PQ REFERENCE:2100H
OCTOBER 1996
COpy ADDRESSEE
(8)
:
MPS
441To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what instructions
have been sent to the commanders of Royal Air Force stations to
collect reports from air crews having alleged~ y sighted
unidentified flying objects; what inquiries have been held
following such sightings; to what extent there has been
collaboration between his Department and the respective
departments in
(a)
Canada and
(b)
the united States of America on
this problem; and if he will make a statement. [40917]
Mr Soames: I will write to the hon. Member and a
copy of the
letter will be placed in the Library of the House.
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PO
REFERENCE:2142H
PO TYPE:Ordinary written
OCTOBER 1996
-
THIS DEADLINE
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
411To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, how many alleged
landings by
unidentified flying objects have been recorded in each
year since 1980 and this year to date; how many have been
investigated by
his Departments personnel; which of these had
been traced by
radar and with what result; and if he will make a
statement. [40921]
copy
of the
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PQ
REFERENCE:2130H
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS}2
COPY ADDRESSEE(S}:
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR)(DON VALLEY)
261TO ask the secretary of State for Defence, if a lodger unit
housed within his Departments
Flying Complaints Flight
specialises in unidentified flying object investigations; and if
he will make a statement. [41036]
Mr SGames: I will write to the hon. Member and a
copy
of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2127H
PQ TYPE:ordinary written
OCTOBER 1996- PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS MEETING
THIS DEADLINE
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
his Department
with the Italian Ministry of Defence Air Force General Staff (2nd.
Department) in respect of unidentified flying objects; and if he
copy of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2123H
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS}2
COpy ADDRESSEE(S}:CMD SEC HQ STC
GRADE 5/0NE STAR WHO APPROVES THE ANSWER MUST BE QUOTED.
MPS DETAILS:MR RHODRI MORGAN (LABOUR) (CARDIFF WEST)
MARTIN REDMOND? LABOUR DON VALLEY
has taken place in each of the last five years by his Department
with the French Ministry of Defence Centre National dEtudes
spatiales in respect of unidentified flying objects; and if he
copy of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2118H
OCOTBER 1996. PLEASE CALL IF THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
S21TO ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list
by
year for the last 30 years how many structured craft of unknown
origin have penetrated the united Kingdoms air defence region;
and if he will make a statement. [40919]
copy
of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2114H
OCTOBER 1996.PLEASE CALL IF THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
s o l To as k the Secretary o f State fo r Defence, what co ns ultatio n
has taken place in each o f the las t five years by his Department
with the Po rtugues e Minis try o f Defences Jo int Staff o f the Armed
Fo rces Intelligence Divis io n in res pect o f unidentified flying
o bjects ; and if he will make a s tatement. [41051]
Mr So ames : I will write to the ho n. Member and a
co py
o f the
letter will be placed in the Library o f the Ho us e.
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PQ REFERENCE:2112H
OCTOBER 1996.PLEASE CALL THIS DEADLINE CANNOT BE MET.
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
491TO ask the secretary of State for Defence, how many instances
of unidentified flying objects have been reported on
by
the
defence services of the United Kingdom during the last 12 months;
what steps are taken to co-ordinate such observations; and if he
copy
of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2l09H
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND fLABOUR) (DON VALLEY)
351To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will make a
statement on his Departments
policy towards unidentified
flying
objects and on how this has developed during the past 30 years.
[40913)
copy of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2106H
COPY ADDRESSEE(S):
his Department
with New Zealands Ministry of Defence in respect of unidentified
copy
of the
.
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PQ REFERENCE:2105H
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:DI(SEC)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):SEC(AS)
with the Spanish Ministry of Defence s Intelligence section of the
Spanish Air Forces Air Operations Command in respect of
[41050]
copy
of the
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PQ REFERENCE:2101H
OCTOBER 1996
LEAD BRANCH:SEC(AS)
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
MPS DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND (LABOUR)(DON VALLEY)
311TO ask the Secretary of state for Defence, what consultation
with the Royal Australian Air Force in respect of unidentified
Mr Soames: I will write to the hon. Member and a copy of the
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THE ARMED FORCES
PQ REFERENCE:2134H
1996
COpy ADDRESSEE(S):
NUMBER OF THE GRADE SlONE STAR WHO
MPS
DETAILS:MR MARTIN REDMOND
implications associated with
will make a statement. (40822)
Answer: The air defence and air
traffic implications of unidentified
flying objects are the responsibility
of the MOD and the CAA respectively.
The Government has no plans to allocate
resources to researching
extraterrestrial phenomena.
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