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110 - Ukedchat Archive 09 August

110 - Ukedchat Archive 09 August

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Published by Colin Hill
What specifically turns off students today to the most common methods of teaching?
What specifically turns off students today to the most common methods of teaching?

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Thursday 9th August 2012
Hosted by @ukedchat - What specifically turns off students?#ukedchat Archive
usernametimestatusukedchat20:00It's 8pm. Welcome to #ukedchat this week. Topic="What specifically turnsoff students today to the most common methods of teaching?"oldandrewuk20:01#ukedchat "turns off" is a bit of a weasel phrase. It could mean"bores/doesn't entertain", "challenges", "displeases" or it could mean...ukedchat20:03Distracted by 800m final....ok, here we go with #ukedchatJanP6520:03Out of sync with how they 'learn' on their own. #ukedchatJackieCarr320:03@ukedchat "fails to engage"?lewis89220:03What turns off students? Chalk and talk teaching. Flipped classroom thefuture? #ukedchatoldandrewuk20:03#ukedchat ..."requires effort to pay attention to" or "requiresconcentration". Not all of these are bad things. Learning's not constantfunMichelleDhillon20:04RT @ukedchat: Distracted by 800m final....ok, here we go with #ukedchatukedchat20:04@oldandrewuk What works best for you? #ukedchatJanP6520:04Flipped classroom is really interesting. #ukedchatLawrenceBham20:04#ukedchat "What specifically turns off students today to the mostcommon methods of teaching?"<-- sitting still for more than 12 minutes!oldandrewuk20:04#ukedchat Also, not all students are "turned off" by the same thing. A lotare turned off by effort or learning. That's *their* problem.ukedchat20:05@gingamusings Indeed, but the relationship has to be one of trust#ukedchatgingamusings20:05#ukedchat Also! Lots of time in whole class instruction that they alreadyknow about...40-50% of what you teach they already knowKateBoot20:05@ukedchat #ukedchat possibly the teacher in the room delivering thelesson ??syded0620:05@LawrenceBham @ukedchat repetition of same style is a turn off. Eventhough I am an advocate of consistency for students #ukedchatkanda_hh20:05@ukedchat does it 'turn them off' from learning? I don't think ch need /should expect constant 'entertainment' - thats not always learningPage 1 of 28
 
Thursday 9th August 2012
Hosted by @ukedchat - What specifically turns off students?#ukedchat Archive
Mad_teach20:05@JanP65 what does a flipped classroom mean? #ukedchatrapclassroom20:05@ukedchat er.. What does that question mean?! #ukedchatJanP6520:05@MichelleDhillon Lol! I know! #ukedchatanthonydking20:05Beyond the Olympic glory lies a patchy future for school sportshttp://t.co/Tr58HQ1e #ukedchatJanP6520:05@oldandrewuk But could that not be that they are forced to learn instyles not appropriate to their needs? #ukedchatgingamusings20:05#ukedchat... believing that their teacher thinks they can't do it..Absolumsaid relationships are the cornerstone of teachinglewis89220:06Good relationships with students are essential to enable good teachingand learning to take place #ukedchatMad_teach20:06#ukedchat keeping it fresh and exciting keeps em on their toes!nickotkdIV20:06@ukedchat i think chd get turned off by teachers who still stick to thetraditional 3 part lesson.oldandrewuk20:06#ukedchat Group work is also pretty unpleasant for those who want tolearn if they are in a group with those who don't.JamesTheo20:06@EmmaHam63497594 You turned up in time for #ukedchat which runsfrom 8-9pm every Thurs. You should find people to follow as well as joinin!esoldaveglasgow20:06#ukedchat Working in ESOL in UK, we see a lot of Internationals put off by'gamelike' classroom activity, so we need to 'sell' OUR method.gingamusings20:07@oldandrewuk #ukedchat totally agree group work can be the worst.Especially for those students who naturally work aloneukedchat20:07@rapclassroom Which teaching methods don't work for pupils?#ukedchatJanP6520:07@oldandrewuk Very true. Why it is important to very learning structuresand give choice. Listen to 'learner voice' so to speak. jamesdhobsonuk20:07#Ukedchat i hope this session isn't used to promote individual's petcreed, fad or theory. I can feel it already. Best be specific?oldandrewuk20:07#ukedchat Any type of activity which keeps kids busy but serves nopurpose beyond practising an ill-defined "skill" is frustrating.MarieWallace720:07ÔÇ£@oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Group work is also pretty unpleasant forthose who want to learn if they are in a group with those who don't.ÔÇØgingamusings20:07@ukedchat #ukedchat Totally agree trust is huge but once given it caneasily be broken by a careless comment by teacherssyded0620:07@oldandrewuk very true and can be difficult to manage if teacher doesn't'know' students #ukedchatMichelleDhillon20:07@JanP65 :) Back to topic now #ukedchatMichelleDhillon20:08@ukedchat Would the phrase 'turn on', even though slightly rude,perhaps be better? ;) #ukedchatsyded0620:08@ukedchat @JanP65 students still require the skill of listening andpatience #ukedchatgingamusings20:08agreed @oldandrewuk @lewis892 #ukedchatukedchat20:08Joining #ukedchat this evening. http://t.co/RVshcCok is a great site#ukedchatkanda_hh20:08@ukedchat I don't think ch need / should expect constant 'entertainment'- thats not always learning #ukedchatPage 2 of 28
 
Thursday 9th August 2012
Hosted by @ukedchat - What specifically turns off students?#ukedchat Archive
Mad_teach20:08@oldandrewuk #ukedchat or just in a grp with ppl u don't get along with.But then with friends working together there can be too much chat!learningteachr20:08Ofsted lesson criteria are likely a predictable and dull routine for studentswho learn to parrot them #ukedchatkanda_hh20:08@ukedchat does it 'turn them off' from learning? #ukedchatukedchat20:08@oldandrewuk Are you talking from a secondary and/or primaryperspective? #ukedchatMad_teach20:09@kanda_hh @ukedchat #ukedchat v true but if there's a bit oentertainment r they more likely to be attentive?oldandrewuk20:09#ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussing feelings is unbearable formany kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.ukedchat20:09@syded06 So this needs to be taught from an early age? #ukedchatJanP6520:09@jamesdhobsonuk I think that not every 'method' works for everylearner, classroom and situation. Not one answer for every sit. #ukedchatukedchat20:09@kanda_hh Do you feel this is a recent change of expectation with pupils,or something more historic? #ukedchatteacherofy520:09@oldandrewuk students/chn know when you give activity just 'to keepbusy' - agree with you #ukedchat - must serve a purpose, learn somethinglewis89220:09We need more project based work that is relevant and personalised toeach learner. Like year 7 pods @collegiatehigh #ukedchatoldandrewuk20:09#ukedchat "No hands up" is torture for kids who know the answer. Even if they don't get to answer at least with hands up they show interest.gingamusings20:10#ukedchat make the learning relevant and authentic - and it will beentertaining...We don't have to be #actorsoldandrewuk20:10#ukedchat Waiting is probably the chief torture of school. If teachers arenot prepared or have no pace it is, again, highly frustrating.teacherofy520:10#ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussing feelings is unbearable formany kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.@oldandrewukGeorgeEBlack20:10RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussingfeelings is unbearable for many kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.lewis89220:10@MichelleDhillon @ukedchat I agreeÔǪ..slightly rude haha but muchbetter #UkedchatMichael_Merrick20:10RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussingfeelings is unbearable for many kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.Apple4teacherz20:10RT @ukedchat: 45 minutes until #ukedchat, this week talking about"What specifically turns off students today to the most common methodsof teaching?"esoldaveglasgow20:10RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Group work is also pretty unpleasant forthose who want to learn if they are in a group with those who don't.Page 3 of 28

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