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in what and how they learn? #ukedchat @ukedchat they should be empowered to know why and how best to learn and we need a damn good reason to teach what we are teaching. (1/2) @ukedchat I say give them carte blanche - if you do project based learning, they'll eventually get everything they need. #ukedchat Is there an acceptable or inappropriate age for children/students should direct their own learning? #ukedchat @jmpneale What 'tricky-ness' have you found in this approach? #ukedchat @ukedchat it should move their thinking and understanding forward- students should have input into this #ukedchat (2/2) @ukedchat chn need an opportunity to make decisions, it's an important skill set to learn #ukedchat @ICTmagic FS2 children direct own learning all the time, seems to be taken away the older they get #ukedchat @mathfour What they need may not be what society needs? #ukedchat I think Good practice from early years on child i itiated learning should continue into KS1 and 2 ideally #ukedchat @ukedchat #ukedchat if we want to engage chn in their learning, they need to feel a sense of ownership. RT @ChrisLabrey: Big respect for all fellow tweeps embarking on their first year of headship. #ukedchat @rogerbilling @ICTmagic I think any age, at my rainbows group there's a big focus on girls making their own decisions, they're 5-7yrs #ukedchat @Pekabelo At what age/stage are they ready for this? #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: Why teaching to the top is the route to success: A philosophy for teaching and leading http://t.co/NKcYwBo7 #ukedch ... #ukedchat I find the co-construction approach very rewarding. See here. http://t.co/wHopf6VW But it starts with simple choices at any age

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @StephenConnor7 @ictmagic That's very true. Masters of own learning in EYFS & we remove it in KS1 #ukedchat @StephenConnor7 Is there a point at which students/adults get the right to decide on the direction of their learning again? #ukedchat @SwayGrantham They mainly do this in reception, but then the choices are taken away from them once entering the primary curriculum #ukedchat @ChrisEdwards83 @ukedchat it helps them understand why they should put in the effort Student voice is important for real engagement & motivation. #ukedchat @ukedchat @ukedchat How so? And should we push kids to learn things they aren't inclined to because THEY think we should? #ukedchat @cherrylkd @SwayGrantham Why do we think this is so? #ukedchat @ChrisEdwards83 @ukedchat Indeed - that's a big piece of intrinsic motivation ala @danpink #ukedchat @ukedchat that depends on how much quality input students are given to make their own choices. RT @ChrisEdwards83: @ukedchat #ukedchat if we want to engage chn in their learning, they need to feel a sense of ownership. I think arts programs especially should allow freedom for self-directed learning #artsed #ukedchat Plymouth Education Society's SEN Teach Meet - come along to share or just watch - http://t.co/a24J2kkH #ukedchat #ukedchat chn need to be shown benefit of learning; it should also resonate with them: streetwise to worldwise. @KerriDrama How can we ensure that all children get a chance to express that voice, rather than the noisy few? #ukedchat I am inviting students to a CPD session on Outstanding Teaching I lead to get their views on the strategy we are about to try #ukedchat @ICTmagic @swaygrantham Play based learning, directing own interests is replaced by more targets & therefore lessons #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @chrisedwards83 Hear hear! If chn feel a sense of ownership then they are more likely to be motivated/engaged in my experience #ukedchat @ukedchat @swaygrantham very true... But I think we should be asking why these choices are taken away... @ChrisEdwards83 Indeed. How is this achieved though. Pupils need to be informed of potential they can achieve #ukedchat Strong believer in empowering learners to take responsibility through grp projects & teaching each other. Enjoy being in control. #ukedchat @ICTmagic individual learning paths, chn making choices independently within parameters #ukedchat @ICTmagic ...then again other schools/teachers don't like the potential for uncertainty. Some teachers like/have to retain control #ukedchat #ukedchat it is their future, their learning, their education, their school, but rarely their choice! #ukedchat Wide open fat questions (whilst maintaining integrity of lrning) also important. These qs develop pupil voice + understanding RT @ChrisEdwards83: @ukedchat #ukedchat if we want to engage chn in their learning, they need to feel a sense of ownership. RT @SwayGrantham: @ChrisEdwards83 #ukedchat it helps them understand why they should put in the effort Progress Champions - getting students to talk about progress in lessons http://t.co/sxRIjORO New idea I am trying for students #ukedchat Also important for students to be able to give feedback on their teacher and classes #ukedchat @cherrylkd @ICTmagic @SwayGrantham and therefore pressure on teachers. #ukedchat @ChrisEdwards83 #ukedchat to 'make life easier' much easier to aim chn in one direction, one set of resources etc for teacher Creative curriculum allows for more self/class directed learning rather than rote learning #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat it is their future, their learning, their education, their school, but rarely their choice!

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @SwayGrantham How do we decide on those parameters? As a staff with discussion with parents? #ukedchat @ukedchat hello guys/gals. Hope the new academic year brings you everything you hope for and lashings of fun. @HYWEL_ROBERTS Indeed. You need to show them a range of learning, then let them make the choices #ukedchat #ukedchat Kids can be such inhibited permissionseeking conformists; We need to liberate them to direct their own learning and explore... @jivespin How is the Progress Champions idea going so far #ukedchat @ukedchat When students understand the learning process and their preferences, it motivates them to achieve. I get them to teach. #ukedchat @ICTmagic I dont think there is all children should some sort of say what they want to learn #ukedchat @StephenConnor7 I agree, there is a lot of variety in approaches to this point out in schools. #ukedchat #ukedchat I came up with this idea to help both teachers and students think about what is needed for the perfect lesson http://t.co/I2rBMr8I @HYWEL_ROBERTS Can you give an example of such a wide open question please? #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: Creative curriculum allows for more self/class directed learning rather than rote learning #ukedchat 83 North East teachers signed up for Woodham TeachMeet next Thurs - still more places! #ukedchat http://t.co/sZxTTEM9 http://t.co/xAvM4EWJ RT @ukedchat: @HYWEL_ROBERTS Indeed. You need to show them a range of learning, then let them make the choices #ukedchat Yes, exactly @cherrylkd agreed and I think having that is better #ukedchat RT @louisashenton: @ukedchat When students understand the learning process and their preferences, it motivates them to achieve. I get th ... @ukedchat I think WHAT chn achieve and HOW chn achieve should be considered separately...

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @piersyoung Really well. Great for student engagement and motivation and our Acting Head has championed it in staff briefing #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: Creative curriculum allows for more self/class directed learning rather than rote learning #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat We need to liberate them to direct their own learning< agree, but perhaps gradually so as not to scare them?! @ukedchat the "what" can be harder but the "how" can be done by differentiation of instruction, ie read, listen or watch it not just read Something as simple as a popplet with chns Qs at start of topic - when a lesson addresses a Q, it gives sense of ownership to them #ukedchat RT @K_6Tweets: #ukedchat the "what" can be harder but the "how" can be done by differentiation of instruction, Starting Y1 topics with Q's what do we already know? what do we want to find out gives ch ownership and helps planning. #ukedchat @SwayGrantham As do I. But I have a nagging feeling that quiet/meek children sometime go with the flow, despite my best efforts. #ukedchat RT @TeamTait: 83 North East teachers signed up for Woodham TeachMeet next Thurs - still more places! #ukedchat http://t.co/sZxTTEM9 http ... @DJTom3 Thanks Tom. Ch love creative curriculum and choose topic & push it in direction they want to learn #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat Kids can be such inhibited permission-seeking conformists; We need to liberate them to direct their own ... @piersyoung they definitely need scaffolding, tell a child to do 'anything' and it can be too wide #ukedchat @joelittlewood This also encourages dialogue with parents, who help and explore with the child #ukedchat Ideally!!! @louisashenton @ukedchat getting them to teach is fab! Sometimes the pick up on things from peers they won't from me. I find it a great tool

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic RT @headguruteacher: RT @ukedchat: @HYWEL_ROBERTS Indeed. You need to show them a range of learning, then let them make the choices #uke ... @headguruteacher @ukedchat @hywel_roberts exactly what I'm doing in Art. Enquiry based starting points for Y9. Take it where they want. RT @ukedchat: RT @K_6Tweets: #ukedchat the "what" can be harder but the "how" can be done by differentiation of instruction, RT @K_6Tweets: #ukedchat getting them to teach is fab! Sometimes the pick up on things from peers they won't from me. I find it a great tool RT @Jivespin: Progress Champions - getting students to talk about progress in lessons http://t.co/sxRIjORO New idea I am trying for stud ... @piersyoung #ukedchat Yes, progressively. Choice of tasks in class,choice of topics, or of ways to respond (video, website, visual, oral..) RT @Carlsberg40: #ukedchat even more relevant I'd say! We need to keep their learning meaningful, whatever Gove thinks! @piersyoung @headguruteacher Many US high schools do large year-long senior projects in final yearcompletely self-directed #ukedchat #ukedchat this year I'm trialling giving topics an enterprise focus so there is point and purpose for learning. @ICTmagic I think it's good to be aware, sometimes putting quieter ones together and then speaking to their group opinions aside #ukedchat Please tweets to #ukedchat and not to @ukedchat, unless you are responding to a tweet from this account ;-) @cherrylkd thats ok and yeh I thought it would something like that #ukedchat @Christina_Mairs Do they get any preparation for it in the years before? #ukedchat @ukedchat @k_6tweets I agree, great way of learning their perspective! #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: @DJTom3 Thanks Tom. Ch love creative curriculum and choose topic & push it in direction they want to learn #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @Christina_Mairs I wasn't aware of that. Sounds like a great model to emulate here in the UK. @piersyoung @headguruteacher #ukedchat #ukedchat my problem is keeping a balance between offering choices on tasks for different learners and staying "boss" of my classroom Student voice should not be restricted to the questionnaire. The best student voice is informal and focused on their learning #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat That's why Art is so important. The most liberating of subjects - go anywhere, explore, create. Amazing. @NewtonEJ @MissAdey1 check out #ukedchat this evening! Pupil Voice! @headguruteacher @ukedchat @hywel_roberts isn't that how we should feel about all learning? #ukedchat That's why Art is so important. The most liberating of subjects - go anywhere, explore, create. Amazing.@pekabelo #ukedchat @HYWEL_ROBERTS @ICTmagic @SwayGrantham At end of yr I ask them all to write 3 things enjoyed and 3 they would like to see more of. #learnervoice #ukedchat @piersyoung Often, yes. They get an advisor the year before to begin planning and the younger years are full of small projects #ukedchat @ukedchat #ukedchat I know I bang on about it, but #mantleoftheexpert really good to dvlp this in pri + sec. Arts marginalised=bad thing :-) RT @ukedchat: @HYWEL_ROBERTS Can you give an example of such a wide open question please? #ukedchat @ukedchat what are we going to do about poverty? @HYWEL_ROBERTS #ukedchat, agree totally! @K_6Tweets @ukedchat I love it, I learn lots from them :) I also get them to stretch and challenge each other. What obstacles impede children's ability to direct their own learning & block their voices being heard in schools? #ukedchat @Jivespin I think one of my new pieces of advice is 'have a conversation with your class' like here: http://t.co/PJXhmU63 #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic ukedchat RT @HYWEL_ROBERTS: #ukedchat what are we going to do about poverty? Call me a Luddite but asking kids to suggest how we should teach is nonsense. I'm happy to get feedback on how I'm doing, however. #ukedchat @ICTmagic Not knowing their choices. #ukedchat @louisashenton @ictmagic nice idea. do you think at the end of the year is the best place for it though? #ukedchat @HYWEL_ROBERTS so true. Had great idea for teaching all subjects via the mindset of scientist, designer etc. 'night of experts' #ukedchat @ICTmagic ...The National Curriculum???? (!) #ukedchat @louisashenton I think that pupil feedback to teachers is very important and is a continual process. #ukedchat Wondering if the nice people at #ukedchat will help us get our #PrimaryPGCE hashtag out there. Us noobies need need some exposure :) @K_6Tweets The term 'boss' here is int'ing.How do you give ch freedom to learn their own way whilst maintaining the 'teacher' role #ukedchat @ICTmagic attitudes! Teachers have to be ready to follow their lead and not lead them! #ukedchat RT @HYWEL_ROBERTS: @ukedchat #ukedchat I know I bang on about it, but #mantleoftheexpert really good to dvlp this in pri + sec. Arts mar ... But some sense of National Curriculum is surely necessary? #ukedchat Embracing Gardner + multiple intelligences can be hindered by kids choosing the "easy" A route = short poem over essay if offered. #ukedchat RT @ePaceonline: @ICTmagic ...The National Curriculum???? (!) #ukedchat @ictmagic If they haven't been given opp to direct their own learning before, can be intimidating. We need to suggest ideas #ukedchat @ICTmagic League tables???? SATs????? #ukedchat @ICTmagic chn not used to making decisions, could be smothered at home, don't know how to begin #ukedchat 13/09/2012 19:18

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic As I child I loved teachers who told me about topics/areas I was totally ignorant of. (Still do). Does student voice prevent that? #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: @louisashenton I think that pupil feedback to teachers is very important and is a continual process. #ukedchat @ukedchat How can we expand children's knowledge and teacher's understanding of the choices that are out their to discover? #ukedchat @SwayGrantham Yes, this is very along the lines which Jim Smith promotes in his new book. It is a great read #ukedchat @ukedchat as a guide, not a prescription! #ukedchat @ICTmagic Quiet or shy children drowned out by noisy ones. Need to find way to give all pupil voice #ukedchat http://t.co/9LHpAxgD Blog post I wrote on getting students to teach. Ownership of learning. #ukedchat @Langnut #ukedchat we should not ask chn how we should teach. We SHOULD ask them how they learn. You have to careful to address all chd needs, not just the louder ones. Topic planning Qs, use of open Qs all help find a voice #ukedchat @Carlsberg40 Something like the Rose review then :-/ #ukedchat @ePaceonline So, the whole of the DofE then? :) Just what I was thinking! #ukedchat @ukedchat Loosely,yes.I think we should have standards for certain skills but flexibility is necessary for an engaging curriculum. #ukedchat @HYWEL_ROBERTS: @ukedchat what are we going to do about poverty? #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat I came up with this idea to help both teachers and students think about what is needed for the perfect lesson ht ... @Christina_Mairs Indeed. Society needs certain skills to run effectively #ukedchat @HYWEL_ROBERTS #mantleoftheexpert worked great for me in y5, including ch of all abilities and giving them a sence of worth (1/2) #ukedchat @ICTmagic @ukedchat I love the idea of bring professionals into classes and having career days all through school #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @joelittlewood depends how you perceive 'teacher' role, it's not 'do as I say' it's learning together... #ukedchat Sounds like #homeschool @ICTmagic: Looking 4ward to #ukedchat in 10 min abt 'giving children a say about the direction of their learning'. @Carlsberg40 I think most teachers try to do this to a limited extent. How can the profession move this forward together? #ukedchat @HYWEL_ROBERTS (2/2) however, I still ended up directing most of the learning to ensure the jigsawing of knowledgde worked #ukedchat @mrs_minstrel Definitely so. Enterprise & creative curriculum show subjects aren't discrete. Can teach anything through these 2 #ukedchat @Christina_Mairs @ukedchat if we have a NC it must be designed by people who understand learning not subjects RT @Jivespin: Progress Champions - getting students to talk about progress in lessons http://t.co/sxRIjORO New idea I am trying for stud ... @ICTmagic Yes, definitely I do it informally throughout the yr but get feedback on resources & booklets we use at end to develop #ukedchat @ICTmagic @piersyoung @headguruteacher I agree. My old school put its initial framework online http://t.co/9cIiaOSf #ukedchat @Christina_Mairs School is what discovering what is out there. So it has to be a good idea to bring 'out there' into school. #ukedchat @piersyoung no, it gives more opp. for questions to be asked, a child asked me about pacific ocean when given time to enquire #ukedchat RT @michaelrose: Wondering if the nice people at #ukedchat will help us get our #PrimaryPGCE hashtag out there. Us noobies need need som ... RT @ICTmagic: @Christina_Mairs School is what discovering what is out there. So it has to be a good idea to bring 'out there' into schoo ... RT @MichelleDhillon: @ictmagic If they haven't been given opp to direct their own learning before, can be intimidating. We need to sugge ...

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic RT @traceyab1: RT @SheliBB: Have you got any digital leader news? Come and share it during #DLchat tonight at 9 after #ukedchat Plz RT :-) RT @Pekabelo: @Christina_Mairs #ukedchat if we have a NC it must be designed by people who understand learning not subjects @ukedchat Yes. But not so prescriptive as to restrict any other learning than rote learning #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: What makes an outstanding school? @headguruteacher - see if you can spot a school we've worked in... #ukedchat htt ... @ICTmagic They are also confident to tell me what works for them and how they would like to learn, especially A2s. #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: @Christina_Mairs School is what discovering what is out there. So it has to be a good idea to bring 'out there' into schoo ... @cherrylkd But how can schools be held accountable? #ukedchat {playing devils advocate} @ukedchat as a trainee i like the NC as i feel it's good to have a structure to work to. i feel that a certain degree of it helps creativity @ukedchat #ukedchat @ssat figures show that Drama, Performing Arts & Art spec colls outperform Science spec coll in A level Physics! WHY? @ukedchat i think pace, and learning style could be more flexible - Some guidelines are needed for content #ukedchat @ukedchat a litle late - what are we discussing? @ukedchat @cherrylkd I love to play devil's advocate! :) #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: RT @Pekabelo: @Christina_Mairs #ukedchat if we have a NC it must be designed by people who understand learning not subjects @ICTmagic supporting tchers letting chn direct learning or teaching, so it's meaningful. If it doesn't work doesn't mean failure #ukedchat #ukedchat a national curriculum for learning not just a bunch of stuff to cover. That would empower students to make informed decisions @mrpeel How much say should we give our students in what and how they learn? #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @ICTmagic Not really standard do a learner voice Q for quan data but I like feedback from my indivdual classes. Helps to develop #ukedchat @bekblayton: @ukedchat i think pace, and learning style could be more flexible - Some guidelines are needed for content #ukedchat agreed. RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat a national curriculum for learning not just a bunch of stuff to cover. That would empower students to make infor ... @ukedchat Basic objectives remain same. Move 2 levels over KS etc but free the reins on topics #ukedchat @bekblayton Then, that's about pedagogy then? #ukedchat Teachers need to be given training on how to deal with student voice as it can so easily be misused #ukedchat #ukedchat The key is a mindset valuing student-led learning (see skateboarding lessons analogy http://t.co/BO9npuNw) Less control-freakery! RT @ukedchat: RT @Pekabelo: @Christina_Mairs #ukedchat if we have a NC it must be designed by people who understand learning not subjects Do you have any photos / examples of good word walls in class? What's worked for you? Cheers. Pls RT #engchat #literacy #ukedchat RT @michaelrose: Wondering if the nice people at #ukedchat will help us get our #PrimaryPGCE hashtag out there. Us noobies need need som ... @ICTmagic @ukedchat Ha! I can tell! #ukedchat @louisashenton Interesting. Perhaps you should share this idea more in your school. #ukedchat Does student voice move teachers into move of a facilitator role? #ukedchat @cherrylkd Good. Not going back to QCA units then? #ukedchat #ukedchat hate to be rude but since chn can not vote, how well can they judge the value of subjects looking ahead? might kill MFL for ever @ukedchat #ukedchat, that's it exactly, understanding learning and 'what makes students tick', is essential. @simonwithey @ukedchat #ukedchat @ssat Because A Level Physics - or most Physics for that matter - is HARD! Just ask @mrthomson :)

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat I came up with this idea to help both teachers and students think about what is needed for the perfect lesson ht ... @cherrylkd #ukedchat exactly! @Pekabelo second great suggestion you have had tonight #ukedchat @ukedchat indeed, and not as much pressure to complete coverage/ finish areas within a timeframe. Maybe more relevant at primary? #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat The key is a mindset valuing student-led learning (see skateboarding lessons analogy http://t.co/BO9npuNw ... @Jivespin I think that could be a great thing! #ukedchat @mrpeel Indeed. A need to make an informed decision #ukedchat @ukedchat @cherrylkd #ukedchat if children enjoy, they learn so results will speak for themselves! @christina_mairs #ukedchat @piersyoung @headguruteacher Culminating project is great; love it - but skills must develop much earlier. Half way through #ukedchat for this week. Focus now on "How do we accomplish giving them any say in their learning?" #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat hate to be rude but since chn can not vote, how well can they judge the value of subjects looking ahead? might kil ... @ePaceonline With swelling class sizes, how can we ensure we find out what makes our children tick effectively? #ukedchat @mrpeel talking to my pupils this week about most important subs, mfl was high cus of talking to international athletes etc. #ukedchat @MichelleDhillon @simonwithey @ukedchat @ssat @mrthomson Also there are generally few creative projects in the sciences #ukedchat #ukedchat hate NC if cold, always let chn lead me on revision and things not understood - balance? #ukedchat producing resilient learners with the ability to think is highly important, regurgitating 'knowledge' is not as essential. @danielharvey9 :) thanks sir! #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @bekblayton I don't know. There is still the accountabilty culture to fight. Boxes need ticking by very important people 8-) #ukedchat @louisashenton 140 character is never enough! #ukedchat [--------------------------------Extra space-----------------------------------] :) @SwayGrantham interesting-mine tend to grumble for ever at the very idea of being taken away from maths! Might be an age thing...#ukedchat @ukedchat No! Shock horror! Let children choose & help them discover. Continue to move up the levels as normal. Not hard concept #ukedchat @louisashenton But I understand what you are saying. #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat ooh, you need to look at ePace...it tells teachers how every child in class is learning!! @ukedchat @pekabelo @christina_mairs Shame last NC is to be binned as it tried to advocate learning skills - PLTS HSW #ukedchat @ePaceonline Completely agree! Then how can we produce these 'thinkers'? #ukedchat @ICTmagic get to know them and chat to them, on 1:1 basis and groups, whenever the opportunity arises #ukedchat #ukedchat more choice and independence needed tryig to make y13 choose cwk texts is impossible - still want to be told. Sad. @ukedchat eg Y7 Islam unit: What do you know already? What do you want to find out? The resulting plan easily as good as the official SoW @Christina_Mairs Definitely - but teachers need facilitator skills training. I was lucky to do this at #UFA was fantastic! #ukedchat RT @SwayGrantham: @ICTmagic get to know them and chat to them, on 1:1 basis and groups, whenever the opportunity arises #ukedchat RT @Carlsberg40: @ukedchat @cherrylkd #ukedchat if children enjoy, they learn so results will speak for themselves! Loads of Primary School ICT & Teaching Ideas http://t.co/aaFHB72K #ukedchat #edchat #edtech @cherrylkd I am afraid it is to some :-s #ukedchat They like the safety and structure of such programmes!

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic We like to give students surveys to constantly reflect on curriculum & develop it & let students plan & lead in lessons #ukedchat @ICTmagic @ePaceonline I haven't been to epace for a while... will do! #ukedchat @SwayGrantham @joelittlewood a teacher is needed to introduce new material, the freedom comes from how one chooses to decipher it #ukedchat #ukedchat - need to teach them the tools of independent learning early on and then choices are easier #ukedchat Give lots of choice eg format of hmwk responses, essay questions, DT projects, design of Science exps etc. Options, choices RT @KerriDrama: Student voice is important for real engagement & motivation. #ukedchat @ukedchat @mrpeel That reflects the education they have experienced!!! #ukedchat @Jivespin I think teacher training needs a big shake up anyway! #ukedchat RT @KerriDrama: We like to give students surveys to constantly reflect on curriculum & develop it & let students plan & lead ... RT @NATEfeed: Fight the Good Fight Geoff Barton distracted me for a moment #GCSE students: http://t.co/v4ZpFtat #ukedchat @ukedchat I know!But,if pupils were free to go their own way-if it took longer,or ended w/a diff qualification-would it be so bad? #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Half way through #ukedchat for this week. Focus now on "How do we accomplish giving them any say in their learning?" #ukedchat @christina_mairs #ukedchat @headguruteacher Re earlier, our Yr6 do term-long project on their own topic to help them learn how to question @KerriDrama So what is your role in this setup? #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat eg Y7 Islam unit: What do you know already? What do you want to find out? The resulting plan easily as good And it must be designed by people who understand children. Too many educators don't quite get this... #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic EricWareham #ukedchat - in BTEC's they can have options for the same success criteria RT @amyparkinbed: Plymouth Education Society's SEN Teach Meet - come along to share or just watch http://t.co/a24J2kkH #ukedchat @headguruteacher even simple choices. I asked mine how we were going to not lose class pencils, table pots, keep in draw etc. #ukedchat @ukedchat i agree and it is tragic that they seem so scared - IBDP studetns seem more independent.#ukedchat @GeekPeter Definitely. That's why student voice is so valuable on an informal basis rather than constrained in a formal setting #ukedchat balance between syllabus and beyond always crucial, also to differentiate between the two. Exams defined by syllabus, not learning #ukedchat @Christina_Mairs #ukedchat we need to somehow take the shackles off , adapt to new ways of obtaining information and learn to learn! @danielharvey9 @ukedchat @Pekabelo I think we should head more in the direction of the IB -like the way it emphasizes skills #ukedchat @EricWareham We do...then we untrain them as they enter "formal" curriculum!!! #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: Creative curriculum allows for more self/class directed learning rather than rote learning #ukedchat #ukedchat we def need to consider students' views on learning methods, but with some caution. Watch out 4 those tryin to laze not learn! @K_6Tweets @swaygrantham as Microsoft so aptly stated: the guide from the side, not the sage on the stage. #ukedchat What does pupil voice REALLY mean though? #ukedchat But what happens when we have things that they must know? So does that make a child centred curriculum slightly more futile? #ukedchat @kiranjoza #ukedchat Too much control of learning and emphasis on correctness is inhibiting; no way to develop a nation of entrepreneurs #ukedchat - getting student feedback is essential to improving our delivery and the way we teach 13/09/2012 19:35

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @ICTmagic Phew! Think some teachers are scared of feedback from students or that students don't deserve a say. I like it. #ukedchat #ukedchat @headguruteacher . Yes, even on a small scale letting them choose from two questions to answer, never minds types of tasks! @GeekPeter That's what gives student voice a bad name. Teacher insecurities should not be a barrier #ukedchat If kids are leading the curriculum, how do we ensure equal coverage? Should that be our aim? Classroom curriculum rather than NC? #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat teaching children how to self evaluate all the things they do using simple monitoring and assessment techniques. @mrpeel Sorry....IBDP? #ukedchat Excuse my ignorance! @Christina_Mairs @danielharvey9 @ukedchat what ever is designed. There should be a 'skies the limit' expectation to learning outcomes. @K_6Tweets @joelittlewood that teaches chn that they need a teacher there to learn, what about independent learning? #ukedchat It has probably been said, as I am late.... letting children choose how to work in the classroom, freedom to record as they want#ukedchat @ePaceonline That would also give them the freedom to make mistakes and learn from them! #ukedchat @mrpeel: i agree and it is tragic that they seem so scared - #ukedchat agree-but sts mayB changing and expecting to have voice and choice @ukedchat international Bac Diploma - the post 16 level. We teach both. #ukedchat .@ukedchat allow pupils to critique your lessons. They're generally far too generous #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat follow this link and it shows you class profile. http://t.co/Y2a8C2Wy RT @GaryAveryITT: It has probably been said, as I am late.... letting children choose how to work in the classroom, freedom to record as ... @yesiamemmab Good point, but there can be a balance? #ukedchat @louisashenton @ICTmagic Absolutely. Was just about to make this point - some teachers don't want to give chn a voice at all #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @thingsbehindsun #ukedchat we used studetn observations for a while, but they were very kind! @louisashenton Do you think that is because some teachers expect the worst? Can you give an example of feedback you've acted upon? #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: If kids are leading the curriculum, how do we ensure equal coverage? Should that be our aim? Classroom curriculum rather t ... @EricWareham #ukedchat why? It's quite possible to improve without it. "Essential" is rather over-egging the pudding I think. @ukedchat Completely agree - suddenly KS4 has to be taught differently - why? #ukedchat @mrpeel Doh!!! Thanks #ukedchat ...then understanding checked via question and answer during the next lesson #ukedchat @ukedchat: What does pupil voice REALLY mean though? #ukedchat Mmm - in part-opportunity to act as informed partner in their own learning @GeekPeter I am Student Voice co-ordinator and the barriers one has to hurdle can be dispiriting. Student voice enhances our work #ukedchat #ukedchat If some subjects aren't taught for a year, in place of PBL (as we do) does it make difference to results no- they're better! #ukedchat can be great for teachers to admit they arent infallible and can lead to broader discussion, but not always effective... @ukedchat could be anything from asking them at end of a lesson/activity what they thought to LV online Qs we have at my college. #ukedchat @ICTmagic some teachers feel that it breaks down the hierarchy of student/teacher relationships, not true but a worry #ukedchat #ukedchat - students AND teachers need to reflect constantly on what is received and how it is taught feedback is essential for success @ICTmagic curriculum for my students will be different to your students, demographics different...assess then must be more open #ukedchat RT @Jivespin: @GeekPeter I am Student Voice coordinator and the barriers one has to hurdle can be dispiriting. Student voice enhances o ...

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @thingsbehindsun Get them to film you, so you can see your lesson from their perspective. Would you be brave and honest enough? #ukedchat @ICTmagic let them choose topic & plan whole thing from the choice. All subjects covered. Some links a bit tenuous but are there #ukedchat @KerriDrama Enabler rather than teacher? #ukedchat @ukedchat Gutted to have missed this chat! I'm a huge supporter of the #EarlyYears an how it's taught with the children's voice! @ICTmagic They asked for more formal debates so arranged that, they said there wasn't enough space in HO so I made it bigger! #ukedchat @EricWareham Because it is suddendly very serious then....then the goal posts get moved on a whim!!! #ukedchat I find students are the best critics of any new strategy. They appreciate being asked as well as you are trying something new #ukedchat I've just blogged: Re purposing old resources homework booklets http://t.co/blo4TKZF #addcym #asechat #ukedchat RT @Jivespin: I find students are the best critics of any new strategy. They appreciate being asked as well as you are trying something ... @Bigkid4 - if your style doesnt enable students to make progress then feedback is essential? #ukedchat @MichelleDhillon @simonwithey @ukedchat @ssat what am I missing?! What do you mean by creative projects @Christina_Mairs? .@ukedchat happy to, but always important to concentrate more on what the pupils are doing/understanding than what the teacher is saying We always encourage every child to evaluate each session, important for us to get it right for them! #ukedchat #ukedchat chatham house rules in my form room to allow VIth form to vent frustration is very liberating for all concerned! @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat RT @Pekabelo: #ukedchat If some subjects aren't taught for a year, in place of PBL (as we do) does it make difference to results no- the ...

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @Jivespin #ukedchat, absolutely and helps them to feel that they are learning partners with a stake in what happens. @ukedchat @louisashenton #ukedchat... or are only box ticking! @MrBDK702 Join in, join in. 15 minutes left of #ukedchat @SwayGrantham I agree that this is probably the main worry. How can this be relieved for those teachers. #ukedchat @ukedchat ta-ra!! Yup - panic and chaos and carpet pulled from under us RT @climbdg5: @ICTmagic curriculum for my students will be different to your students, demographics different...assess then must be more ... Any suggestion for screen capture software that will let me post to Youtube? Tried Jing but needs converting #ukedchat RT @SwayGrantham: @ICTmagic some teachers feel that it breaks down the hierarchy of student/teacher relationships, not true but a worry ... @mrpeel @ukedchat Yep agree on the box ticking but for me informal feedback from individual groups important #ukedchat What do people think of Eastern "filial piety" where students trust adult's decision to teach x even though may not understand why?#ukedchat #ukedchat all this talk of chn giving feedback to improve teaching, does it ACTUALLY improve chn learning? #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat RT @thingsbehindsun: #ukedchat happy to, but important2 concentrate more on what pupils are doing/u'standing than what the teacher is saying @ukedchat @Pekabelo @Christina_Mairs but is a curriculum the what, rather than the how? @ePaceonline Also that you value their input and are not going through the motions. Enhances teacherstudent working relationships #ukedchat @ICTmagic other teachers modelling, teachers seeing they don't lose the respect of the class #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @raisechildrens We always encourage every child to evaluate each session, important for us to get it right for them! #ukedchat gr8 - regular RT @EricWareham: #ukedchat ta-ra!! Yup - panic and chaos and carpet pulled from under us @louisashenton @mrpeel @ukedchat .. and most effective #ukedchat Inspectors watch approx 1 of my lessons every few thousand. Each Sixth Former watches about 20% per week. Who's the best judge? #ukedchat @ukedchat mantle of the expert approach lets children take ownership of their learning #ukedchat #mantleoftheexpert @climbdg5 That is a interesting point. And of course the same is true within a school & within a class. #ukedchat RT @ChrisEdwards83: @Langnut #ukedchat we should not ask chn how we should teach. We SHOULD ask them how they learn. RT @ukedchat: @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat RT @climbdg5: #ukedchat @Pekabelo @Christina_Mairs but is a curriculum the what, rather than the how? @ICTmagic Oh, I showed a youtube clip of 'women know your limits' in Sociology, they liked that, asked for more clips... ;) #ukedchat RT @thingsbehindsun: Inspectors watch approx 1 of my lessons every few thousand. Each Sixth Former watches about 20% per week. Who's t ... Pupil voice like ice-skating. Discount couple of scores at top + bottom and you're left with a sensible appraisal of performance #ukedchat @ukedchat: @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat yes :) !! So document it to share Yes but what does 'a balance' like? Does that work? Would the whole system have to be reformed? #ukedchat RT @thingsbehindsun: Inspectors watch approx 1 of my lessons every few thousand. Each Sixth Former watches about 20% per week. Who's t ... @cherrylkd Sounds similar to what I do. #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic lisa_uk_com SarahLearns #ukedchat I am sure all this will be central to Mr Gove's master plan. LOL! Nearly missed #ukedchat on a topic I am passionate about? RT @thingsbehindsun: Inspectors watch approx 1 of my lessons every few thousand. Each Sixth Former watches about 20% per week. Who's t ... At the end of a 6 week programme we write about the things we want to celebrate!Helps us gauge progress in a totally positive way#ukedchat @kiranjoza #ukedchat Often after I've said 'present research any way you like', kids file out saying 'is it ok if...', 'am I allowed to..' If you want to listen to pupils ask them to self-assess so that they understand what learning really means and how they best learn #ukedchat @ICTmagic Great minds and all that! #ukedchat Any mention of early years and parents? #ukedchat Last 10 minutes of #ukedchat "How much say should we give our students in what and how they learn?" RT @ChrisEdwards83: @Langnut #ukedchat we should not ask chn how we should teach. We SHOULD ask them how they learn. The ask pupils to describe all the aspects of good teaching and ask them to tick off how many they see during each of your lessons #ukedchat @SwayGrantham Helped me as a new teacher- after evals I talked to my class and we found a middle ground #ukedchat @SarahLearns Earlier. EYFS practice has so much to offer the rest of the school #ukedchat #ukedchat consult with students crucial. They'll tell us how much say they should have. Allow time for student council to collect views If you could let children either choose what they learn or choose how they learn, which would it be? #ukedchat Pupils already have 100% say in what they learn because only a fraction of learning goes on in School #ukedchat We are running two of our next education conference workshops with young people. You're all welcome. :)#ukedchat 13/09/2012 19:48 13/09/2012 19:48

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic At times! I have often been amazed at how well students can step up & take charge of their own learning. #ukedchat @ICTmagic @ukedchat at GCSE/A-level there's only a certain amount you can give in what (exams yay), but plenty with regards to how #ukedchat @Sciencematters Curriculum lead by the inspiration of children/teachers to learn the things they care about & think are important. #ukedchat Fancy hosting a future #ukedchat session? Please give @ICTMagic or myself a shout. You will be supported throughout ;-) RT @lisa_uk_com: #ukedchat I am sure all this will be central to Mr Gove's master plan. LOL! @SheliBB @ukedchat I have used Mantle a few times in class and my children loved the freedom to dictate their own learning! The decide which books to read, youtube clips to watch, films to see, conversations to have. They've never had more choice #ukedchat In an ideal world children would have a big say in what was taught to them, but politics and institution takes over... #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat @thingsbehindsun Student voice in terms of what topics/skills they'd like to learn about is very important #ukedchat @ukedchat children should have in my opinion total control, teachers can guide what children want to learn and still assess for targets! @lisa_uk_com Ha ha ha ha! #ukedchat @ukedchat Glad to hear you say that. I feel like I go on a bit! #ukedchat - anyone using students to observe lessons and provide feedback - we are planning to At KS3 there's massive scope for students being able to suggest what to learn - national curriculum can be covered easily #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: @Christina_Mairs School is what discovering what is out there. So it has to be a good idea to bring 'out there' into schoo ...

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic #ukedchat children want to learn what they want to learn, but how much will future curriculum interest pupils? It's up to us as educators. @louisashenton Sounds interesting. YouTube is a super resource if used well in class. #ukedchat #ukedchat grrr. Won't reload. End of conversation for me just as getting interesting :( Ask students to bring in a news article or current topic that has interested them. Weave that topic into SOW #ukedchat #ukedchat, mind you the only core subject on my curriculum post 16 would be TOK from the IB - how we know what we "know" better than "facts" Teachers give out constructive criticism each and every day. Surely they should be able to take honest feedback? #ukedchat @Pekabelo Try http://t.co/RVshcCok for #ukedchat @cherrylkd That's what I was thinking! :) #ukedchat @ukedchat If children are dictated to too much it can put them off learning! Children need to be in control & led through the journey by us! @FootieFanMiss it's great isn't it!We have been some amazing companies and done some fab things over the years #mantleoftheexpert #ukedchat RT @Jivespin: I find students are the best critics of any new strategy. They appreciate being asked as well as you are trying something ... Ask students to engage in feedback for peers that allows their own comments- not just scaffolded to Say what you want them to say #ukedchat RT @ePaceonline: @Jivespin #ukedchat, absolutely and helps them to feel that they are learning partners with a stake in what happens. @thingsbehindsun many can, but OFSTED culture makes many very thin-skinned #ukedchat RT @Jivespin: @ePaceonline Also that you value their input and are not going through the motions. Enhances teacher-student working relat ...

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @ukcreativeed @thingsbehindsun And now with Studio Schools and specialist schools kids can choose these things by choosing schools #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: @louisashenton Pupil voice is only good when educators don't have selective hearing #ukedchat All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat #ukedchat we should focus on skills. 21st century learning should not be about knowledge. No point giving students a say if most teachers won't listen to their ideas. Needs to be school-wide policy #ukedchat RT @thingsbehindsun: Teachers give out constructive criticism each and every day. Surely they should be able to take honest feedback? # ... @piersyoung I think it would be 'what' they learn. They don't realise they have much choice of 'how' #ukedchat @joelittlewood Yeah, you're right - that's the 'coverage' and 'integrity' of the learning we always need to be mindful of #ukedchat RT @MrBDK702: #ukedchat If ch are dictated to too much it can put them off learning! Ch need2 be in control & led through the journey by us! RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat RT @ICTEvangelist: Dont forget 18 September 8pm BST - first #edubookclub chatting about Full On Learning by @fullonlearning #SLTchat #U ... @ukedchat children are not given enough credit for deciding their own educational journeys! Let's get children excited by learning! RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat Students are an excellent judge of what makes a good teacher. those they think can't teach actually don't want to b there #ukedchat One of the top complaints from the young people we work with is school councils. More positive about individual teachers. #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @thingsbehindsun certainly *should*, but you know the human race! It's something all teachers ought to be able to handle #ukedchat RT @MrBDK702: #ukedchat children are not given enough credit for deciding their own educational journeys! Let's get ch excited by learning! #ukedchat I always ask pupils thoughts on the lessons. What better judge of teaching than the pupils you teach RT @ukcreativeed: Students are an excellent judge of what makes a good teacher. those they think can't teach actually don't want to b th ... #ukedchat I'm all for pupil voice but pupils must first be taught to make the correct choices. @MichelleDhillon implementing that school-wide would be a maaaaaassive job! Resources-wise could be an issue, espec planning time #ukedchat #ukedchat - teachers perfrom. performers not best judges of quality and need objective view - chn best placed to provide this #ukedchat at the end of a programme we ask the chn to write the things they want to celebrate.This enables us to gauge progress positively. @SheliBB I really need to do it more! Loved it when we have! We have worked for Lord Sugar and Henry VIII!!! #mantleoftheexpert #ukedchat @Pekabelo we shall see - needs careful management and engagement with staff #ukedchat @ukedchat does total control work? always wonder is there a line where the teacher needs to step in to provide structure and guidance? @KerriDrama So teachers & children agree on the goals & the children strive to meet/exceed them in collaboration with the teacher. #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Fancy hosting a future #ukedchat session? Please give @ICTMagic or myself a shout. You will be supported throughout ;-) Students can sometimes reflect on y lesson or class is problematic much more objectively than teachers who tend2blame themselves #ukedchat

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic RT @mrs_minstrel: #ukedchat does total control work? wonder is there a line where the teach needs 2 step in to provide structure & guidance? RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat Important not to forget the need for a framework supplied by the teacher. Personal learning, but with some structure #ukedchat @ukedchat eventually I want to have a school where children decide their learning, teachers support and collaborative learning takes place! @MichelleDhillon individual teachers doing little bits allowing students more freedom over outcomes/method - is doable..I do it! #ukedchat @ukcreativeed Yes,but students often cannot completely articulate how they would change things.Ever read 'Fires In The Bathroom?" #ukedchat @mrgpg Agree with this. Ideally, I think we should collaborate. There is a balance to address at present perhaps. #ukedchat Student voice is 100% vital but so is allowing good teachers to shape the school experience & have input into provision etc #ukedchat And teachers need to be able to act on the more sensible ideas put forward by chn. More creative thinking needed imo #ukedchat @ukedchat perhaps comfort and support rather than structure and guidance.. #ukedchat All ~relevant~ links shared during the session have been saved at http://t.co/vwCmiag2 #ukedchat @ukedchat @mrs_minstrel look in to #RachelMacMillanNursery in #Deptford #London a brilliant nursery with children in complete control! RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat #ukedchat We use Google form to collect student voice. Works well and gives feedback scores etc straight away. .

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic RT @MrBDK702: @kedchat @mrs_minstrel look in to #RachelMacMillanNursery in #Deptford a brilliant nursery with children in complete control! @Arsinhy yes, I can see this point but we have seen schools use this is as a key way to improve - they make it non-judgmental #ukedchat .@mrthomson it's a sensitive profession. Many feel criticism from managers, parents etc and to add pupils.... #ukedchat Definitely! We might learn a thing or two from our students too :-) #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat I started getting pupils to fill in a feedback sheet when i mark their books. Get some quality comments and now used by all dept. @mrthomson Good! :) Seriously, it makes no sense to have some teachers embracing chn's ideas & others rejecting them #ukedchat Student voice must move away from the typical themes of the canteen and toilets to have any value in a 21st century school #ukedchat Would be interested to hear from any teachers/Schools that feel they have pupil voice cracked #ukedchat @KerriDrama I learn a thing or two on an hourly basis with them. That's why I go back the next day for more. #ukedchat @Jivespin Indeed. Selective hearing! #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat Kids can be such inhibited permission-seeking conformists; We need to liberate them to direct their own ... #ukedchat its funny that when it comes to effective learning we forget that 70% of what we learn is from doing RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat Kids can be such inhibited permission-seeking conformists; We need to liberate them to direct their own ... #ukedchat Need some advice. Have a student who's very strong with verbal responses A grade standard, written response typically D/C grade.. RT @Jivespin: Student voice must move away from the typical themes of the canteen and toilets to have any value in a 21st century school ... @ukcreativeed @thingsbehindsun Student voice in terms of topics/skills they'd like to learn about is very important #ukedchat-knowing why 2!

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic @MichelleDhillon you're def right - but - so many things that would make learning amazing for students, just diff to implement! #ukedchat It's 9pm. That's it for #ukedchat this week. Thanks to @ICTMagic for co-hosting alongside me this evening. @joelittlewood hosts next week. @mrthomson Can appreciate time/resources issues as you say, I'm sure you do a bang up job Mr T! :))) #ukedchat RT @ukcreativeed: Ask students to engage in feedback for peers that allows their own comments- not just scaffolded to Say what you want ... @EricWareham Good point. How can involvement be increased? #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: @KerriDrama So teachers & children agree on the goals & the children strive to meet/exceed them in collaboration w ... The archive from the session this evening will soon be published at http://t.co/f9pp9HjW Thank you @ICTmagic and @ukedchat Interesting debate as always. Lots of new ideas to take to school once again. #ukedchat @ukedchat thanks for hosting, great to share ideas. #ukedchat Student voice important...they see more lessons than anyone... @Jivespin if student voice topic keeps being repeated then their voices are wasted surely? #ukedchat @ukedchat Thanks and you are welcome. :) #ukedchat @FootieFanMiss one of my colleagues did Alan Sugar mantle this year!We've worked with Richard Branson tho ;-) http://t.co/S28khvP2 #ukedchat @SarahLearns totally buy into student voice, but feel that schools need also to capture the voice of the professionals they employ #ukedchat @cherrylkd Always a pleasure. :) #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: Why teaching to the top is the route to success: A philosophy for teaching and leading http://t.co/NKcYwBo7 #ukedch ... @ePaceonline Nice to be back :-) #ukedchat (Not that I ever went away)

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic MsTweetiePye @ukedchat @ICTMagic @joelittlewood thank you these chats really are helpful RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat @ukcreativeed Yes. My idea of hell, but I do it nonetheless. #ukedchat @ICTmagic Thanks for hosting - superb #ukedchat this week. Much appreciated! Busy day today, unfortunately missed @ukedchat will tune in next week. #ukedchat Works for us RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat We use Google form to collect student voice. Works well and gives feedback scores etc straight away @MsTweetiePye @Jivespin Glad you found it useful. #ukedchat #ukedchat Hi Edward? Whereabouts in the UK are you? RT @ukedchat: What does pupil voice REALLY mean though? #ukedchat RT @headguruteacher: #ukedchat Give lots of choice eg format of hmwk responses, essay questions, DT projects, design of Science exps et ... Phew! That's most have ever got involved in #ukedchat, prepping in new role! Scary sometimes yet enjoyable! ;) @SwayGrantham That they are only consulted about paint and events, rather that being more involved dayto-day. #ukedchat 1/2 RT @louisashenton: Phew! That's most have ever got involved in #ukedchat, prepping in new role! Scary sometimes yet enjoyable! ;) @MsTweetiePye Student voice is only wasted when it is completely ignored. We must always keep trying. #ukedchat @SheliBB Wow! How amazing! The kids must of loved it! Brilliant! #ukedchat @SwayGrantham Have seen some brilliant ones too! #ukedchat 2/2 RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat RT @Jivespin: @MsTweetiePye Student voice is only wasted when it is completely ignored. We must always keep trying. #ukedchat 13/09/2012 20:02

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13 September 2012 Hosted by @ukedchat @ICTMagic thanks @ukedchat and @ICTmagic - was v. interesting tonight and resonates with my pgce studies. always gd to hear ideas from the real world. Enjoyed #ukedchat this week again. My hosting debut next week (eek) I'm an NQT too so I'm fairly green! Be kind, and see you next week. RT @mrgpg: All this talk of "student voice" makes me wonder if schools have an adequate "staff voice"??? #ukedchat We have -School council,student curric team, student observation, students review SOWs, student governors & students in dept meets #ukedchat @joelittlewood Good luck! We are all behind you! #ukedchat @ukedchat glad I didn't miss it all ;) @mrs_minstrel Glad you found it interesting. Do many of your PGCEers use Twitter as a training tool? #ukedchat Google Releases Open-Source Online-Education Software http://t.co/5reh6Bcg #ukedchat #edtech #google #education @ICTmagic: it was interesting and it was useful. Thank you- Good 'morning' from OZ :) #ukedchat Aiming to get students involved in our CPD programme this year. I think their insights should help shape what we do #ukedchat RT @mrgpg: We have -School council,student curric team, student observation, students review SOWs, student governors & students in d ...

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