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Transcript of vice presidential debate

Transcript of vice presidential debate

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CBS released a partial transcript of the vice presidential debate between Paul Ryan and JoeBiden. The full text will be updated when available.OCTOBER 11, 2012SPEAKERS: VICE PRESIDENT JOSEPH R BIDEN JR.REP PAUL D RYAN.MARTHA RADDATZ, MODERATOR 21:01: 33 RADDATZ: Good evening, and welcome to the first and only vice presidentialdebate of 2012, sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates. I'm Martha Raddatzof ABC News, and I am honored to moderate this debate between two men who havededicated much of their lives to public service.21:01:51 Tonight's debate is divided between domestic and foreign policy issues. And I'mgoing to move back and forth between foreign and domestic, since that is what a vice president or president would have to do. We will have nine different segments. At the beginning of each segment, I will ask both candidates a question, and they will each havetwo minutes to answer. Then I will encourage a discussion between the candidates withfollow-up questions.21:02:16 By coin toss, it has been determined that Vice President Biden will be first toanswer the opening question. We have a wonderful audience here at Centre Collegetonight. You will no doubt hear their enthusiasm at the end of the debate -- and right now,as we welcome Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan.21:02:35 (APPLAUSE)21:03:00 OK, you got your little wave to the families in. It's great. Good evening,gentlemen. It really is an honor to be here with both of you.21:03:09 I would like to begin with Libya. On a rather somber note, one month ago tonight,on the anniversary of 9/11, Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave Americanswere killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi. The State Department has now made clear,there were no protesters there. It was a pre-planned assault by heavily armed men. Wasn'tthis a massive intelligence failure, Vice President Biden?BIDEN: 21:03:35 What is was, it was a tragedy, Martha. It -- Chris Stevens was one of our  best. We lost three other brave Americans. I can make absolutely two commitments to youand all the American people tonight. One, we will find and bring to justice the men whodid this. And secondly, we will get to the bottom of it, and whatever -- wherever the factslead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the American public, becausewhatever mistakes were made will not be made again.
21:04:04When you're looking at a president, Martha, it seems to me that you should take alook at his most important responsibility. That's caring for the national security of thecountry. And the best way to do that is take a look at how he's handled the issues of theday.On Iraq, the president said he would end the war. Governor Romney said that was a tragicmistake, we should have left 30,000 -- he ended it. Governor Romney said that was a tragicmistake, we should have left 30,000 troops there.21:04:30 With regard to Afghanistan, he said he will end the war in 2014. Governor Romney said we should not set a date, number one. And number two, with regard to 2014,it depends. When it came to Osama bin Laden, the president the first day in office, I wassitting with him in the Oval Office, he called in the CIA and signed an order saying, "Myhighest priority is to get bin Laden."Prior to the election, prior to the -- him being sworn in, Governor Romney was asked thequestion about how he would proceed. He said, "I wouldn't move heaven and earth to get bin Laden." He didn't understand it was more than about taking a murderer off the battlefield. It was about restoring America's heart and letting terrorists around the worldknow, if you do harm to America, we will track you to the gates of hell if need be.And lastly, the president of the United States has -- has led with a steady hand and clear vision. Governor Romney, the opposite. The last thing we need now is another war.RADDATZ: Congressman Ryan?RYAN: 21:05:33 We mourn the loss of these four Americans who were murdered.RYAN: When you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks, they sentthe U.N. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a YouTube video. Ittook the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack.He went to the U.N. and in his speech at the U.N. he said six times -- he talked about theYouTube video.Look, if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it is, a terrorist attack. Our ambassador in Paris has a Marine detachment guarding him. Shouldn't we have a Marinedetachment guarding our ambassador in Benghazi, a place where we knew that there wasan Al Qaida cell with arms?21:06:17 This is becoming more troubling by the day. They first blamed the YouTubevideo. Now they're trying to blame the Romney-Ryan ticket for making this an issue.With respect to Iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal, which was we agreedwith the Obama administration. Let's have a status of forces agreement to make sure thatwe secure our gains. The vice president was put in charge of those negotiations by
President Obama and they failed to get the agreement. We don't have a status of forcesagreement because they failed to get one. That's what we are talking about.21:06:51 Now, when it comes to our veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude for what they've done for us, including your son Beau. But we also want to make sure that wedon't lose the things we fought so hard to get. Now, with respect to Afghanistan, the 2014 deadline, we agree with a 2014 transition. Butwhat we also want it do is make sure that we're not projecting weakness abroad, and that'swhat's happening here.RYAN: 21:07:18 This Benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself, but unfortunatelyit's indicative of a broader problem. And that is what we are watching on our TV screens isthe unraveling of the Obama foreign policy, which is making the (inaudible) more chaoticus less safe.RADDATZ: I just want to you about right in the middle of the crisis. Governor Romney,and you're talking about this again tonight, talked about the weakness; talked aboutapologies from the Obama administration. Was that really appropriate right in the middleof the crisis?RYAN: 21:07:47 On that same day, the Obama administration had the exact same position.Let's recall that they disavowed their own statement that they had put out earlier in the dayin Cairo. So we had the same position, but we will -- it's never too early to speak out for our values.21:08:03 We should have spoken out right away when the green revolution was up andstarting; when the mullahs in Iran were attacking their people. We should not have calledBashar Assad a reformer when he was turning his Russian-provided guns on his own people. We should always stand up for peace, for democracy, for individual rights.21:08:23 And we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts, because what thatdoes when we equivocate on our values, when we show that we're cutting down ondefense, it makes us more weak. It projects weakness. And when we look weak, our adversaries are much more willing to test us. They're more brazen in their attacks, and areallies are less willing to...(CROSSTALK)BIDEN: 21:08:39 With all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey.RADDATZ: And why is that so?BIDEN: Because not a single thing he said is accurate. First of all...RADDATZ: Be specific.

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