3Tape 1, August 16, 1998Lawrence Wollersheim and Jesse PrinceL: Testing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Today is the 16th of August, 1998. This isLawrence Wollersheim, about 5:00 in the afternoon, sitting with Jesse Prince. We’re justgoing to talk about his time in Scientology and ask him different things. And this is myvoice, the other voice will be Jesse’s.J: The voice he’s referring to is this one right here.L: OK. Tell me, the other day we were talking about Scientology tampering with judges.You mentioned that you had been interviewed by the FBI once before and that they hadasked you about it but you didn’t tell them what was going on. Were you in Scientology?J: Yes I was. I told them the truth as I understood it at that time.L: You told them what you knew at that time, the truth as you understood it at that time.It was concerning a tampering with a judge. What was that judge’s name?J: Judge Mary Anna Fouser.L: This was in a case?J: A RICO suit brought against David Mayo, the AAC. CSC and RTC brought theaction.L: What specifically did Scientology do to tamper with this judge, and if you can just tryto describe what your knowledge is, and who was involved in doing it and if you knowwhat they specifically did, or you don’t know what they did. Kind of, a person, an action,as much detail as you can have.J: What I would like to do is just start at the beginning. Any time a judge appears in acase in Scientology, good, bad, or indifferent, a common practice is to do an ODC,particularly if he’s a hostile judge, or is perceived to be a hostile judge. ODC meansovert data collection. What would happen is, you’d get some guys normally from OSAInvest, and they would go and get as much public record as they could about thatparticular judge.L: Could you state what OSA Invest is?J: Office of Special Affairs Investigation Unit. It’s kind of like a low scale FBIinvestigatory group that investigates enemies and critics of Scientology.