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A I am pretty sure. that had the auto theft logo there that said
) 2 Q Did she tell you that? 2 where is yOUT car. A..nd he found it and we called
3 A Yes. 3 it and it still was activated when it was
4 Q Do you know if she clid it on county 4 supposed to be turned :in a year prior to that and
5 time or after work? 5 shut off. He had all kinds of stuff.
6 A That I don It know. 301P 6 Q Do you know what he was actually
7 Q Do you know if she had to go buy a 7 charged with? Was he charged with all the stuffl
8 bag of dog food? 8 or was he just charged with guns?
9 A Yes, I know that she had to buy a 9 A He was charged willi the guns.
10 bag of dog food at Samis. I don't know what 10 Q Do you know why he wasn't charged
11 kind, but I just remember she had to buy a bag of 11 with taking all the other stuff as well, like the
12 dog food. 12 thing he wrote you up for?
13 Q Did she discuss whether she thought 13 A He 'IlI'Tote Detective George up.
14 that was an appropriate h~ing for Mr. Rebert to 14 Q Oh, I'm sorry. He wrote Detective
15 ask ber to do as the chief county detective? 15 George up for?
16 A I remember she was pissed-- oh, 16 A IVlT. Rebert ciidn 't want it done.
17 pardon me. She was upset vvith having to do 17 Q How do you know that?
18 that. 18 A He said it.
19 Q Did she say she was going to speak 19 Q Were you there when he said it?
20 to Mr. Rebert about that subject? 20 A Yes.
21 A That I don't recall. 21 Q In what context clid he say it?
22 Q Do you know if any of the detectives 22 A We were in Chief Downing's office.
23 ever drove Stanley Rebert around to work the 23 It was myself, :Mr. Rebert, Chief Downing,
24 poles dnring eJection da~ys? 24 Lieutenant Glovvczevlski, and Eric P~ugustine from I
"25 A I never did. 25 t."1e AG's office. \Ve were discussing it -- DO. I
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Q I am not saying you did. Do you That was a different conversation. I wasn It
2 know if anyone else ever clid? 2 tbere for that. That was a different
3 A I don't know if :Mr. Ingle did or 3 conversation.
4 DOl. I donTt kno"'\v. 4 "lie v/ere talYing about somet:bing and I
5 Q Does that sound like something that
6 would be in character for tvli ~ Ingle to do?
5 Mr. Rebert looked up and said, Well, maybe love
6 ought to get t.~at coucb out of my bouse. I
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A Yes.
Q Do you remember Mr. Ingle being
7 Q Oh, I'm going to get to that
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I 9 charged criminally with respect to things that 9 A Okay.nris would have been before ,
10 he did dlli-ring his tenure as chief county 10 there, but I dOD 't L'IinK I was L'Iere for that. I
I 11 detective?
12 A Yes.
302!' 11 Q Did someone tell you that I~JL Rebert
12 didn It ~Tant him prosecuted?
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I 13 Q \Xv'hal Vias be alleged to have done and
14 what was he ultimately convicted of?
15 A It was alleged that he had stolen 15
A Yes.
Q vIas that Chief DG~rning?
A Yes.
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j 6 property from tbe D.A. 's office; gUJ,lS, fireanns, 16 Q Did Chief Downing tel1you that she
17 weapons, specifically a BroVi'1ling high powered 17 had TeComiiicTIded to Ivfr". Rebert tbat lvtr. Ingle
18 semiautomatic pistol. Ano the state police 18 should be charged ...rith all of the things that he
19 ultimately found that gun, along with nmnerous 19 stole and not just the guns?
20 other guns and a megapbone and a laptop computer 20 A Yes.
21 and radios and crime scene tape and badges and 21 Q Letis talk about the meeting with
22 you name it, be bad it. 22 the couch. Was that right before Mr. Ingle's
23 I meaD, be even bad Detective 23 trial?
24 George's radio that he VilJ'ote him up for. He had 24 A Yes, that would bave been, like, the
") ~ my ceD phone from when I was '\ovith auto t.~eft 25 morning of, because we bad to make the big
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1 display for Augustine. b I something along those lines. I can't :remember
) 2 Q "Where was the group at? 2 specifically; but it was something like, You got
3 A Chief DOINl1ing' s office. 3 to do it. And she was like, No, we're not going
4 Q"Who was present in the office at the 4 to do that. You take care of it. I am not going
5 time? 5 to involve my guys, or something along those
6 A Me, Chief Downing, Lieutenant 6 lines.
7 Glowczewski, Eric Augustine. And I don't 1mow if 7 Q And that was said in front of Mr.
8 there was anyone else. I don't think there was 8 Rebert at the meeting?
9 anybody else there. 9 A Urn-hum.
303P 10 I just remember I was standing in 10 Q Is that yes?
11 the doonvay. Mr. Rebert was in front of me. 11 A Yes, SIT. I'm sorry.
12 Eric Augustine was to my left. The lieutenant 12 That was me, Eric Augustine, Stan,
13 was over here and chief was at her desk. And 13 Lieutenant, and Chief DovvDing.
14 there might have been someODe behind me OT off to 3('5,14 Q Eric Augustine, he was the guy from
15 the far left, but I don It remelnber. 15 the .LA",G's office. F-ight?
16 Q And what was being discussed at the 16 A That's correct.
17 time? 17 Q He actually tried the case?
18 A Trial strategy. 18 A Yes, sir.
19 Q Did Mr. Rebert come into the room? 19 Q How did the trial go?
20 A Yes. 20 A It went very well.
21 Q "What happened after J\'1r. Rebert came 21 Q Was Mr. Augustine happy v>'ith the
22 into the room? 22 results?
23 A We were talking about something. I 23 A Yes, he was.
24 just relnember hun loo1cing up. He ,vas sitting on 24 Q Were Y011. happy with the results?
25 the COllIer of -- leaning up against t.~e credenza p;,. Yes, I 'v'vas.

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1 kind of thing and he looked up and said, \Ve need Q "Why were you happy with the results?
2 to -- we got to get that couch 011.1 of my home. 2 A Because he was a pohce officer that
3 Something along those lines. 3 stole. He gave us a bad image.
4 Q Do you knov--T "vhat context!f I mean, 4 Q Was Mr. Rebert happy with the
5 what was going on in the discussion in the room?
A Vie were talkillg about property,
5 results?
6 A Yes, and no.
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7 county property. 7 Q Explain that.
8 Q Stolen county property? 8 A He was happy that there was a

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9 A Right.
Q And Mr. Rebert said we have got to
11 get that couch out of my basement?
''1 ..4- I don It knOvl if be said basement. I
9 conviction. ADd then later on there was some
10 strife in the office between Paul Crouse and
11 Susan Voyzey. I just remember something about
12 Ken Ingle and the chief being criticized for it
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13 t."hink he said house. 13 or something along those lines.

14 Q Out of his hOllse? :::07P 14 Q Vi as u~ere ever an indication that J

15 A Yes. 15 Ingle was romantically involved with Susan

16 Q Did he ask the detectives to 16 Voyzey?
17 actually go do tbat, or did he just say v;-e got to 17
18 get it out? 18 that, you Know, I had any firsthand knowledge of.
19 A I don't know what was said after 19 I probably had 30-hand 1mmvledge of it.
20 that. I just remember it being said. Then it 20 Q Were they pretty friendly based upon
21 was like, get it out. And I am pretty sure the 21 what you could see?
'-- 22 chief said, No, we are not going to do that. 22 A Urn-hum.
23 Q Chief DO~Tning? 23 Q Is that yes?
24 A Yes. You need to get somebody else 24 A Yes, SIT.
).:; to no it \A/e are not !wil1" to do it or u A ftf':T thf'O r:nnv-ir_tinn UJ'l<: thf>TF' 'mv