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Jeni Barnett LBC MMR show transcriptPart 1
JB1.mp30.00 to 7.01 minutesJB: Now, it's cold, it's miserable, lots of us are snuffling, lots ofus have got viruses, some of us will be affected by it, some of uswon't. Every single time we come round again to 'measles epidemic' or'infection rates rise in Europe" my first thought is: I'm anindependent, individual human being, I have raised a biological childand two logical children. Sometimes their responses to things wereworse than others, sometimes children around them had a response thatwas worse than mine, than my kids. The fact is, the notion that we'reall the same, that you have to be inoculating children with this MMRjab, this debate is going to go on for ever and ever and always at theback of it, in my head is 'hold on a minute, there's a drug companythat's making lots of money out of it'. And I always get reallyanxious when I hear the you know now that we've got 'Banishing measles*TIMESTAMP: 1.00*from Europe in 2010 may have been dashed by poor vaccinations rates ina handful of countries'. you cannot have your cake and eat it. Youcannot be putting rubbish and carp in food endlessly and looking at therise of asthma and obesity and then turn round and not say look what'shappening with measles. You have to approach the whole thing at thehealth of our children and the health of our society. Now back in theday (and that's an expression I've learned from my [unclear] son), backin the day, children got measles, children got mumps. I'm notsuggesting - I am not suggesting - that we got backwards where somechildren, where we have one in fifteen children die of it. And thatone person in fifteen is the one we have to be looking at and wonderingwhy and dealing with it. But if, as a human being, you decide you donot want to give your child a vaccination, you should, in a democracy,have that right to day no.*TIMESTAMP: 2.00*There are some children - whether you like it or whether you do not -that have a response to that triple jabbing that is not good for them.We have evidence, however much people say we don't, we have evidencethat if a child's immune system is weak; my daughter was one of them,she was very asthmatic as a child, she could not have received thattriple vaccine, she couldn’t have done it so I made a calculateddecision that I didn't want to go there. and it isn't a decisionthat's made easily, it's a lonely decision, if you're not part of theherd, if your' not mooing with the other cows or baaing with the othersheep, if you wanting to stand alone, it's a very lonely businessstanding under a tree in a field all on your own saying 'I don't wantto do that'. So I want you to phone me and tell me why you decidedagainst the vaccine and how you're coping with people saying 'See!You're the reason, you are the reason we haven't banished measles'. Ihad that said to me by doctor in Canada: 'You haven't had your chidvaccinated?*TIMESTAMP: 3.00*
 
Your-' he left me in the kitchen! He blamed me for the whole measlesepidemic. 0-8-4-5-6-0-6-0-9-7-3 Why didn't you have your childvaccinated, hw are you coping with the fact that people don't like youfor it, how do you like it when you are, when the study is documentingthat 12,000 cases of European measles in the two years spanning 2006and 2007 means that we are one of the handful of countries in Britainthat are not doing it right. Well maybe, maybe there are all sorts ofother figures that have been withheld from us, and I don't know whatthey are because they've been withheld! Measles is a contagiousinfection caused by a virus. Measles was once common but because ofimmunisation it's now fortunately becoming very rare. I want to knowfrom some kind of expert*TIMESTAMP: 4.00*what measles is and what is in the vaccine, and why people have areaction to it, and really my question is: what is wrong with childhoodillnesses? Is it - to hark back to the first hour - because we don'thave parents at home looking after the children? What's going on? Isthere something wrong with having mumps, is there something - you knowis it - most people aren't that one in fifteen. So if you did not haveyour child vaccinated, why? 0-8-4-5-6-0-6-0-9-7-3 Text me if youdecided against having that triple M, and are now dealing with peoplesaying 'you are responsible for the rise in measles'. Text me on 8-4-8-5-0. We are living in the 21st century, we have running water, mostof us have running water, most of us live in better situations than wedid when I grew up - I grew up in two rooms with rats and mice in the*TIMESTAMP: 5.00*east end of London. I can remember it. And DON'T email me in - there'sa guy who emails me in to say 'Oh you just want to be part of the eastend' no, I grew up in St Marks St, thank you very much, born in MileEnd Road, and when I go there now I look at it and think blimey that'smy birthright and thank God for that I like it. my feet are rooted inthe east end even though my parents were rehoused - rehoused - incouncil housing, social housing, that welfare state looked after uspoor little immigrant Jews. And we were sent to this lovely house andthere we have it. Asthma runs in my family, asthma runs in myhusband's family so my daughter was not inoculated. I, however, havetalked to many people over the years - 22 years I've lived with mydaughter - and over the years many many people have said the samething, that when we were little, chicken pox, you took your kid to getthe chickenpox, you made sure your child was near somebody who had it.My brother got mumps,*TIMESTAMP: 6.00*he lived to tell the tale. I don't know if we had measles. I wassitting next to Nick Owen on the settee at TV AM when his children wereincubating rubella which is measles, and I was pregnant! Now I'm notsaying that we shouldn't be using science and medicine to makeeverybody healthy, but there's an obsession now with trying to sanitiseabsolutely everything, and if your child's immune system is strongenough it will fight and it will grow and it will be strong. Too manyantibiotics and now we have MRSA and superbugs. I'm not an expert, thisis what I have observed, phone me: 0-8-4-5-6-0-6-0-9-7-3. If you choseto stand under the tree in the field outside the herd. Tracey inOlympia talk to me.T: Hi Jeni, yes I'd like to totally agree with you the fact thatimmunisation is totally unnecessary especially*TIMESTAMP: 7.00*
 
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