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Jeni Barnett LBC MMR show transcriptPart 1
JB1.mp30.00 to 7.01 minutesJB: Now, it's cold, it's miserable, lots of us aresnuffling, lots of us have got viruses, some of us will beaffected by it, some of us won't. Every single time wecome round again to 'measles epidemic' or 'infection ratesrise in Europe" my first thought is: I'm an independent,individual human being, I have raised a biological childand two logical children. Sometimes their responses tothings were worse than others, sometimes children aroundthem had a response that was worse than mine, than my kids.The fact is, the notion that we're all the same, that youhave to be inoculating children with this MMR jab, thisdebate is going to go on for ever and ever and always atthe back of it, in my head is 'hold on a minute, there's adrug company that's making lots of money out of it'. And Ialways get really anxious when I hear the you know now thatwe've got 'Banishing measles*TIMESTAMP: 1.00*from Europe in 2010 may have been dashed by poorvaccinations rates in a handful of countries'. you cannothave your cake and eat it. You cannot be putting rubbishand carp in food endlessly and looking at the rise ofasthma and obesity and then turn round and not say lookwhat's happening with measles. You have to approach thewhole thing at the health of our children and the health ofour society. Now back in the day (and that's an expressionI've learned from my [unclear] son), back in the day,children got measles, children got mumps. I'm notsuggesting - I am not suggesting - that we got backwardswhere some children, where we have one in fifteen childrendie of it. And that one person in fifteen is the one wehave to be looking at and wondering why and dealing withit. But if, as a human being, you decide you do not wantto give your child a vaccination, you should, in ademocracy, have that right to day no.*TIMESTAMP: 2.00*There are some children - whether you like it or whetheryou do not - that have a response to that triple jabbingthat is not good for them. We have evidence, however much
 
people say we don't, we have evidence that if a child'simmune system is weak; my daughter was one of them, she wasvery asthmatic as a child, she could not have received thattriple vaccine, she couldn’t have done it so I made acalculated decision that I didn't want to go there. and itisn't a decision that's made easily, it's a lonelydecision, if you're not part of the herd, if your' notmooing with the other cows or baaing with the other sheep,if you wanting to stand alone, it's a very lonely businessstanding under a tree in a field all on your own saying 'Idon't want to do that'. So I want you to phone me and tellme why you decided against the vaccine and how you'recoping with people saying 'See! You're the reason, you arethe reason we haven't banished measles'. I had that saidto me by doctor in Canada: 'You haven't had your chidvaccinated?*TIMESTAMP: 3.00*Your-' he left me in the kitchen! He blamed me for thewhole measles epidemic. 0-8-4-5-6-0-6-0-9-7-3 Why didn'tyou have your child vaccinated, hw are you coping with thefact that people don't like you for it, how do you like itwhen you are, when the study is documenting that 12,000cases of European measles in the two years spanning 2006and 2007 means that we are one of the handful of countriesin Britain that are not doing it right. Well maybe, maybethere are all sorts of other figures that have beenwithheld from us, and I don't know what they are becausethey've been withheld! Measles is a contagious infectioncaused by a virus. Measles was once common but because ofimmunisation it's now fortunately becoming very rare. Iwant to know from some kind of expert*TIMESTAMP: 4.00*what measles is and what is in the vaccine, and why peoplehave a reaction to it, and really my question is: what iswrong with childhood illnesses? Is it - to hark back tothe first hour - because we don't have parents at homelooking after the children? What's going on? Is theresomething wrong with having mumps, is there something - youknow is it - most people aren't that one in fifteen. So ifyou did not have your child vaccinated, why? 0-8-4-5-6-0-6-0-9-7-3 Text me if you decided against having thattriple M, and are now dealing with people saying 'you areresponsible for the rise in measles'. Text me on 8-4-8-5-0. We are living in the 21st century, we have runningwater, most of us have running water, most of us live inbetter situations than we did when I grew up - I grew up intwo rooms with rats and mice in the
 
*TIMESTAMP: 5.00*east end of London. I can remember it. And DON'T email mein - there's a guy who emails me in to say 'Oh you justwant to be part of the east end' no, I grew up in St MarksSt, thank you very much, born in Mile End Road, and when Igo there now I look at it and think blimey that's mybirthright and thank God for that I like it. my feet arerooted in the east end even though my parents were rehoused- rehoused - in council housing, social housing, thatwelfare state looked after us poor little immigrant Jews.And we were sent to this lovely house and there we have it.Asthma runs in my family, asthma runs in my husband'sfamily so my daughter was not inoculated. I, however, havetalked to many people over the years - 22 years I've livedwith my daughter - and over the years many many people havesaid the same thing, that when we were little, chicken pox,you took your kid to get the chickenpox, you made sure yourchild was near somebody who had it. My brother got mumps,*TIMESTAMP: 6.00*he lived to tell the tale. I don't know if we hadmeasles. I was sitting next to Nick Owen on the settee atTV AM when his children were incubating rubella which ismeasles, and I was pregnant! Now I'm not saying that weshouldn't be using science and medicine to make everybodyhealthy, but there's an obsession now with trying tosanitise absolutely everything, and if your child's immunesystem is strong enough it will fight and it will grow andit will be strong. Too many antibiotics and now we haveMRSA and superbugs. I'm not an expert, this is what I haveobserved, phone me: 0-8-4-5-6-0-6-0-9-7-3. If you chose tostand under the tree in the field outside the herd. Traceyin Olympia talk to me.T: Hi Jeni, yes I'd like to totally agree with you the factthat immunisation is totally unnecessary especially*TIMESTAMP: 7.00*in this day and age when-
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