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Dialogue with Hidden Hand

Dialogue with Hidden Hand

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In 2008 a self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider appeared on the ATS forum with a mandate to answer any questions the users might have.

Wes Penre was a member of the forum and transcribed the entire dialogue and put it on his website: http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

However, his website occasionally experiences problems, and this document is valuable enough to warrant inclusion elsewhere on the internet for safekeeping.

All credit to Wes Penre for transcription.
In 2008 a self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider appeared on the ATS forum with a mandate to answer any questions the users might have.

Wes Penre was a member of the forum and transcribed the entire dialogue and put it on his website: http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

However, his website occasionally experiences problems, and this document is valuable enough to warrant inclusion elsewhere on the internet for safekeeping.

All credit to Wes Penre for transcription.

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anscribed by Wes Penre, who was a member of the ATS forum when “Hidden Hand” 
THE HIDDEN HAND
“A Window of Opportunity”
 October 2008
First Session: 
HH:
I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens,whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offeryou the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunityto you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, thatthere is only so much I am able to say.Rules define life in games.If you wish to participate, here they are:1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you inreciprocation.2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your questionis not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question waslacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwiseunworthy of being dignified with a response.3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of "provisional faith". In practice, thismeans that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or pettyname calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under "suspended judgment". In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to thecontent of truth and knowledge imparted herein.4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it byhaving to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer thequestions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time wehave wisely.
 
If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if Iso choose.That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me.I will check back and respond as time allows.
ATS
: How many generations back does your bloodline extend, or, perhaps more accurately, who doesyour family consider its earliest ancestor in a position of power?
HH
: Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded"history", and beyond, our Family has been 'directing' the 'play' from behind the scenes, in one way oranother. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are 'born to lead'. Itis part of the design for this current paradigm.
ATS
: To what extent has selective breeding been used to preserve the purity of the line? and whatbecomes of children of unapproved unions? (They would naturally still be raised with privilege, but not,perhaps "given the keys to the castle" as it were?)
HH
: The breeding is generally case specific, dependent upon the role that the Family members inquestion are due to grow into. I will touch more on this in answer to the next poster's question that yourephrased.There are no unapproved unions. Our Family will always intermarry between lines, or, what we wouldterm 'Houses'[1]. Marriages are arranged. In all my years alive, I have never seen or heard of a Family member breaking this code, as far as marriage goes. You do as you are told. One cannot 'join' the Family.One is 'born', or incarnated into it.On the rare instances of a child being born that could be seen as bringing 'difficulties', you are correct inyour premise, that it would be raised as part of the Family, though would not grow up in the house orcommunity of either of its parents.
ATS
: If one were to imagine a scale, perhaps as a triangle with Political, Religious and Corporate powerat the three points, how would you categorize the power your family yields? (Balanced? Leaning moretowards one or two than a third? Heavily favoring one of the three above the others?) And has thatposition shifted over time?
HH
: You need to first understand the structure of the Family. In the grand scheme of things, the Line isnot as important as the House, the House, is not as important as the Family. The Family is all. No matterthe House or Line, we are One (truly international) Family.Imagine if you will, a
 
body. A House would represent a vital organ or body part within the Body itself.Each part has an important role to play in the functioning of the whole, and to each of us, the 'whole'has our undivided loyalty. As I say, many lines, (far more than you are aware of), One Family.Our realms of influence do not fit as comfortably into the three boxes of your triangle as you mayimagine. There are
six disciplines of training within the Family
, and each member of the Family is
 
schooled extensively in all of them, from early childhood. We all have an area of specialty, though wehave experience in all spheres. The six spheres or 'schools' of learning are
Military, Government,Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences
. In practice, out there on the 'stage' of public life,
wehold key positions in all of these main areas of importance
. With the
addition of 
a complicit
Media
 machine and ownership of your
Financial establishments
, all bases are covered.I will have to reply in parts, due to the restriction of characters per post.Napoleon making the "Hidden Hand" sign,showing off that he is "initiated" 
ATS
: Which Ruling Bloodline Family.... Rockefellers?That may be a bit too direct for our inquisitee. I'd offer the following substitute:How many parallel bloodlines do you estimate are in similar positions to your own, and to what extentdoes your family see them as either competition or collaborators?
HH
: Yes, as I say, knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that isimportant.There are
13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines
. Yet there are
many many other lines
that
spring fromthese
, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can bemixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, nocompetition, just Family.No competition in the sense of House against House, though it is a 'dog eat dog' world. So there is

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