Calls this dam shepeirish mimakom l’makom. And gm is askingif you can eat this meat raw. Mashma, that in normal situation can eat raw meat withoutmelicha, and only when dam has been peirush mimakom limakom do we assur it.However, if would do melicha, for sure it would be mutar.(Others have girsa, that gm wants to know if mutar to eat at all, and gm leaves that as ateiku, in which case this gm
telling us that generally it’s mutar to eat meat raw).2.
Davka dam shepiresh ligamrei is assur, but if it moves mimakomlimakom, not assur. B/c when are moleiach dam, obviously don’t get all of it out. Ela,we are moleiach basar to extent that after pouring boiling water on it it would stopcoming out (Check this). And even though for sure some dam is traveling on its way outwhen it is stopped. Ela vaday dam is only assur once its totally piresh.3.
4 cases that have " based on this yesod.
(a) Case #1-
Piece of meat is red b/c the animal had gotten a
mechaim, not called dam evarim shepiresh.*Assuming that perish mimakom limakom is considered piresh.(b) Case #2-
, no need for melicha b/c the dam will comeout and fall to the ground. And the dam that is left inside and moves around inside, that’snot called dam eivarim shepiresh.**Apparently holding that piresh mimakom limakom is not called piresh!? What aboutin perek 7?!
: Makes chiluk that if it moved meChaim, called dam shepiresh, but if happens after death, not called dam shepiresh.(c) Case #3
Basar nisbashel without any melicha
. Need 60 in thetavshil kineged the dam. What about the original piece?
1- Yesh omrim
b/c it was cooked without melicha.
b/c the dam was batel, and whatever dam moved around inside the basar isn’t a problem b/c its dam eivarim shelo piresh.(d) Case #4-
use kli she’eino menukav
to do melicha what’s din of meat?
1- Nimukei R’ Peretz:
Whole chaticha should be assur b/c dam can’t come out at all b/cthe whole area is backed up, and dam already started moving and couldn’t get out, so thewhole piece is assur.
: Only the part of the meat sitting in the dam/tzir will become assur b/c has dinkavush, and that which moves around inside doesn’t assur the whole piece b/c it’sdspmml”m.4.
' MA 6:12
– Chiyuv Melicha even by raw meat. Gm never says that don’tneed melicha by basar umtza. However, if chalto b’chometz, now can eat it w/outmelicha.
* These notes have not been reviewed by R’ Simon. They are the notes I took during the shiurim.