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Determining HP of Pump for Lifting Water

Submitted by bmsingh on September 9, 2009 - 22:1 9 Kindly let me know the following; How to calculate the HP of the water pump motor for lifting water from sump to Roof tank in residential buildings? Is there a general rule to be followed? Any standards or recommendations may kindly be prov ided. B M Singh bm.singh@hotmail.com Go to Top

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1. How to calculate the HP of the water pump
Submitted by Anil Kumar Singla on October 3, 2009 - 1 9:20. Dear Sh BM Singh. Bookish answer to y our question is av ailable on 1 00's websites on this internet. Y ou might hav e searched v arious sites to quench y our thirst to satisfy y ou fully . Y ou might hav e found that there are only two v ariables required to calcuate the water pump HP. 1 ) height of total lift of water 2) required flow Please take total height in meters and flow required in liter per minute. now multiply height(in meters) and flow (in liters per minute) now div ide this by 4500 y ou will get theoretical HP of the pump. Now there is a secret to calculate actual HP of the pump In my practical ex perience i did not find pump efficiency more than 30 %. In most cases it is less than 30 %. So to calculate actual HP y ou should multiply theoretical HP by 4. Actual HP is 4 times more than theoretical HP. Second secret, Please calculate total suction lift from pump to sump bottom. please ensure water pump is capable of producing so much suction. Third secret, please add 20 % to y our actual height of water lift. These are called frictional losses. Fourth secret, submersible pumps are more efficient than monoblock pump. I think abov e points are useful to satisfy y our question Regards AK Singla Power Utilities Engineer, Panipat Refinery Panipat AK SINGLA

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2. Water lift for glacial spring - East Montpelier, Vermont

Submitted by Dean Loren (not v erified) on March 26, 201 2 - 06:59. Mr. AK Singla I am the project manager for Antonov ich Springs. I am renov ating a glacial spring in East Montpelier, V ermont. Our spring supplied the state capital in Montpelier.

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Can we talk about original grav imetric pipe design (4 miles) from 1 820, and proposed new pipeline from spring (350 gal/min) 1 1 00 ft to the top of a hill and farm at 1 200 ft than down to our factory on the riv er or back through farm to city park & forest. Its quite beautiful and I want to keep it simple. Thank y ou for y our risk analy sis. Dean Loren deanloren@gmail.com 7 1 8 27 7 1 367 reply

3. Determining HP of Pump for Lifting Water

Submitted by Ramesh Sakthiv el on October 4, 2009 - 1 0:1 1 . The following link prov ides y ou a simple calculator to workout the HP of a pump. http://www.gemi.org/waterplanner/ex cel/GEMI-Equations-Tool.x ls This inolv es understanding of the pumping head, size of pipe, water requirement, friction losses, etc., The better way to calculate the HP is to consult a pump v endor and use the pump rating chart of a pump y our planning to use. reply

4. Thank you for the site you've given

Submitted by Rena Joy (not v erified) on June 1 5, 201 2 - 1 5:01 . Thank y ou for the site y ou'v e giv en. The better thing is that it is in ex cel form which can be used also as reference. reply

5. Dear B. M. Singh, One first

Submitted by Anita Bhatt on October 5, 2009 - 1 2:02. Dear B. M. Singh, One first needs to determine the total head of water required i.e the length of the piping from the foot v alv e inside the sump to the pump suction flange and then add the height of the piping from the pump discharge flange to O/H tank. This is the total discharge head required. The horse power or Kw required is calculated as follows: Kw =flow in m3./hr X total head in metresX density of water / 3.6X1 02,000 X pump efficiency (in decimals). It would be simpler for y ou to contact the sellers of pumps to come take a look at the lay out of his sump, O/H tank, etc. take measurements and then quote for a suitable pump. The seller has to know how to determine the power required from the driv e motor. Regards S.S.Ranganathan Adv isor Ion Ex change Bangalore reply

6. What kind of submersible pump should be used?

Submitted by Pradeep Kumar (not v erified) on October 25, 201 2 - 08:06. Sir, Please adv ise the submersible pump capacity for lifting water from a borewell hav ing a depth of 450 feet and water in the borewell y ield is 2 inch. I require the water to be lifted to a height of 25 meters to the 8th floor building which is near Sri Mookambika temple Kollur. The water is required to fill 1 5,000 lts of tank in less than one hour. if y ou hav e Danfoss pumps please suggest the model and send a quotation accordingly . A lso I am looking for a water filter to be connected to the deliv ery line at the roof top of the building. I want to eliminate the small sand particles that come at the time of starting of the pump (old pump ) and remov e slight discoloration of water that occurs during the rainy season. Note test was done by Surathkal Institute and certified that was is good for drinking purpose. Thank y ou and best regards, Pradeep Kumar abimon.residency @gmail.com reply

7. Dear B. M. Singh, For

Submitted by Anita Bhatt on October 5, 2009 - 1 4:00. Dear B. M. Singh, For calculating the horse power of the pump for lifting the water to roof top, it will be required to do the following: The important parameters are the amount of water to be lifted (discharge) and the head from location of the pump to the roof top and the time in which, we want to lift the requisite quantity of water. Calculate the discharge of water to be lifted. For example ,if the per capita consumption is 200 lpcd, the days consumption will work out to 1000 liters or 1m3 and if it were to be lifted in 15 minutes, the requisite discharge will work out to (1m3/ (15*60)sec.

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or (1/900) m3/sec The formula for calculating the HP of the pump is (Q*1000*h)/ (75*eff) where is Q is the discharge in cum/sec; 1000 is the specific wt of water and h is the lift calculated from the location of the pump to the roof top. For a 3 storey building it would be 10 to 11 m. eff is the efficiency of the pump. By applying the above the requisite HP for the example above would work out to 0.25 HP, with a pump efficiency of 70%. However the next issue would be to see what capacity pumps are available in the market, which may be usually more than 0.25 HP. The same should be procured.

With regards, Vijay Kumar Hydrologist Head-Water Resources/Senior Consultant-Water Resources DHI-Water and Environment New Delhi-110019 reply

8. How to calculate the HP of the water pump

Submitted by RAJAMOHAMED AMBALAM on October 7 , 2009 - 1 6:47 . Dear Sir, The horse-power (H.P.) of a pump can be determined by calculating the work done by a pump in raising the water upto H height in meters Let the pump raise W kg of water to height H m Then work done by pump = W X H Kg m = WQH mkg/sec Where W density of water in kg/m3. Is equal to app. 1 .0 Q water discharge by pump in m3/sec The water horse power, Pw = (W Q H) /7 5 and the break horse power = ((W Q H) /7 5 X Efficiency } Power or energy required per second to the pump water is Pw = QH kw and this determines the horsepower Horse power of the pump is Pw x 1 .341 HP The abov e is the general formula. But for the design of y our sy stem, y ou should know the following in addition, the lift and the total head. The total head inv olv e, friction loss while the water flow through the pipe, bed loss, loss at v alv e, junction, at v arious changes of diameter of pipe etc. Hence to design a sy stem if y ou know the all v alues, then y ou can design the pump and motor horse power, (Discharge rate, Lift, total head) The total head inv olv e v arious frictional loss computations at different stage. These are useful to understand the sy stem and design as a whole. But in practical cases, due to ex haustiv e trial and error statistics, either recorded or practically performed and assessed, giv en the discharge, pipe diameter, and total height from sump to tank, an ex perience mechanic can tell the required horse power of the pump/ motor and pipe diameter. PV C pipes and HDP hoses hav e low frictional loss than the metal pipes. Depending up on y our ov erhead tank size, av ailable v olume of water, y ou can chose the pipe diameter and horse power by v ary ing the time of pumping. If y ou want lesser time, choose higher horse power which is within the av ailable discharge For a 5 member family , 500 liter capacity tank, filling twice a day will suffice the need. Assuming the tank is at a height of say about 25 feet y ou may fit 1 .5 h.p centrifugal self priming pump to lift water from 5 feet depth sump for a pipe diameter of one quarter inches. This might fill y our tank of 500 liters in max imum of about 1 0 to 1 2 minutes. Howev er this depends on the quality and make of the impeller and motor. An ISI standard pump might do. This is for y our enlightenment. A. RAJA MOHAMED GEOPHY SICIST, COASTAL ENERGY Pv t Ltd bismi1 2347 86@gmail.com A. RAJAMOHAMED AMBALAM GEOPHY SICIST COASTAL ENERGY Pv t Ltd, CHENNAI +91 944361 9352 reply

9. Suitable pump/motor for 10 feet depth sump 20 feet lifting

Submitted by Mohideen (not v erified) on December 1 8, 201 1 - 1 6:58. Dear Mr Raja Mohammed Please suggest the best pump with product make for my sump. Specifications are as follows: Height: 7 feet; Length: 6.5 feet; Width: 6.5 Feet

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Thanks, Mohideen, Group Fiv e - Saudi Arabia

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10. What is the data based on which we can install a lifting pump?
Submitted by Sy ed Jaff (not v erified) on June 1 8, 201 2 - 1 6:32. Sir, On which basis can we install a lifting pump if we are going to hav e a facility for drinking water with the aid of pump for 500 users? What will be the procedure to prepare for project? reply

11. Determining HP of Pump for lifting water up to 30 feet

Submitted by Siddharth kumar (not v erified) on July 1 9, 201 2 - 08:00. I hav e to lift water to a height of 30 feet to fill a tank of 2000 liters through a pipe of 0.5 inch from the depth of 2 meters. Kindly suggest what horse power monoblock pump is needed to meet this requirement? Regards, Siddharth Kumar reply

12. Pump for lifting water from sum to rooftop

Submitted by V INOO KHANNA (not v erified) on August 2, 201 2 - 1 9:46. Respected Sir, Namaskar & greetings. We hav e a sump below the ground lev el, its depth is of 3 feet appx wherein we fill drinking water and with help of three phase 1 h.p. pump we lift water appx 50feet (1 6 metres) to house roof and store in rcc water tank of 1 2000 litres for use of 9 families. This pump has become v ery slow and is also v ery old. We think the earlier owner put it about 25 y ears ago. Can we hav e this pump modified or renov ated for use or should we put a new one? Please also suggest latest pump and with what h.p. as we wish to fill the ov erhead roof tank of 1 2000 litres in 1 hour only due to electric load shedding. An early response will be highly appreciable. Thanks V inoo Khanna 8447 7 201 01 Plumbing contractor, New Delhi

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13. Water pump for single family residential bunglow

Submitted by Anony mous (not v erified) on August 3, 201 2 - 1 3:36. Members and Ex perts, I am not an engineer. But need to replace my water pump. I currently hav e a underground tank, which gets filled twice in a one day and an ov erhead tank attached to it. There is a submersible pump in the tank below, and a pump near my ov erhead tank. This pump abov e is a nuisance. Its switches on and off (cranks), each time any tap is opened. When it cranks, it creates huge fluctuations in my ov erall v oltage. It can be seen in AC, light bulbs, fans. I am scared that this is effecting all my electronics/pump aswell in a bad way . Is it the pump which is causing the problem because it is located nex t to ov erhead tank? Or is it the Kirloskar brand pump, which is causing the problem? reply

14. Question regarding pump choice for well

Submitted by R.Theeban (not v erified) on August 1 9, 201 2 - 09:26. My well is 300 ft from my office. I need to supply water to the tank which is near the office. My question is, what ty pe of water pump should I go for? I wish to know the following: 01 . Electric source 02. 1 " supply pump 03. Pump must be fitted in the well 04. Supply speed and pressure of pump are not important 05. Need:- water must be pumped More inform ation 01 . Tank is 300 ft from the well

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02. Water is at a depth of 1 5-20 ft in the well 03. Total height - 35ft (20ft from foot v alv e to pump (Max ). and 1 5ft from water pump to tank) 04. Tank 1 000 liter capacity 05. Water needs - 1 000 liters per day (max imum) Please denote the suitable pump and the features of the pump. Thank y ou reply

15. Pl suggest capacity of motor & pump for 2 storeyed apartments

Submitted by Satish Mardla (not v erified) on September 20, 201 2 - 1 2:30. Please suggest a suitable motor and pump to be used for 2 storey building. Water suction is from 25 feet underground and to deliv er to the water tank at roof at a height of 25feet. Also please prov ide the water tank dimensions. In the two storey building, a total 5 families will be accommodated (25 persons) reply

16. What hp pump is needed to lift water to a height of 40 ft?

Submitted by Anony mous (not v erified) on September 30, 201 2 - 1 0:1 1 . I hav e to lift water to a height of 40 feet to fill a tank through a pipe of 0.5 inch from the depth of 1 0 feet. Kindly suggest what horse power pump is needed to meet this requirement? reply

17. What hp pump is needed to lift water to 40ft,2500-3000 PSI?

Submitted by Rav i Hegde (not v erified) on September 30, 201 2 - 22:07 . What would be the specification (horse power) of the pump required to pump water to 40 feet height with 200 bar pressure / 2500-3000 PSI.? Any particular company pump of y our suggestion? Thanks in adv ance, Rav i reply

18. What is the number of power units consumed?

Submitted by jay a (not v erified) on October 23, 201 2 - 1 4:34. What is the number of power units consumed by one hp motor to lift 1 000 liters of water from sump at ground to a tank of 30 feet high. reply

19. Need information on the type of pump to buy

Submitted by MZ Sadicote (not v erified) on December 28, 201 2 - 1 1 :27 . Hello, I need to replace my old relic of a water pump. The details are as follows: Length of piping (3/4" dia) from foot v alv e to pump inlet 45' Length of piping (1 /2" dia) from pump outlet to roof tank 1 5' It's still working despite its leaky water seal and eroded shafting. I believ e a 1 /2 HP one would suffice for my needs. Could y ou please recommend a reliable brand and ty pe of pump I should go for in the present market? Hopefully one that has a track record of reliability equal to my old water pump. reply

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