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Constitutional Government is Not Limited Government

Constitutional Government is Not Limited Government

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Since
 
the
 
issue
 
continually
 
comes
 
up
 
when
 
debating
 
"limited
 
Government",
 
Libertarian
 
Party
 
supporters
 
who
 
believe
 
they
 
are
 
anarchists
 
I
 
feel
 
the
 
need
 
to
 
lay
 
out
 
in
 
detail
 
yet
 
AGAIN
 
the
 
explicit
 
reasons
 
why
 
associating
 
"limited"
 
Constitutional
 
Government
 
and
 
liberty
 
is
 
problematic,
 
contradictory
 
and
 
flawed
 
logic.
 
In
 
this
 
note
 
we
 
will
 
be
 
examining
 
why
 
the
 
Founding
 
Fathers
 
introduced
 
a
 
form
 
of 
 
Government
 
that
 
was
 
NOT
 
meant
 
to
 
be
 
a
 
smaller
 
less
 
powerful
 
Government
 
than
 
the
 
Articles
 
of 
 
Confederation
 
but
 
in
 
fact
 
was
 
meant
 
to
 
be
 
a
 
more
 
powerful
 
more
 
coercive
 
form
 
of 
 
Government.
 
I
 
will
 
also
 
be
 
posting
 
sections
 
of 
 
the
 
Constitution
 
to
 
demonstrate
 
why
 
it
 
led
 
to
 
a
 
coercive
 
tyrannical
 
form
 
of 
 
Government.
 
First
 
we
 
will
 
look
 
at
 
how
 
James
 
Madison
 
wanted
 
to
 
create
 
a
 
form
 
of 
 
Government
 
that
 
held
 
supremacy
 
over
 
the
 
states
 
rights
 
and
 
how
 
the
 
states
 
were
 
to
 
be
 
in
 
a
 
subordinate
 
position.
 
This
 
is
 
for
 
all
 
the
 
"states
 
rights"
 
Libertarian
 
Party
 
cheerleaders:"Conceiving
 
that
 
an
 
individual
 
independence
 
of 
 
the
 
States
 
is
 
utterly
 
irreconcileable
 
with
 
their
 
aggregate
 
sovereignty;
 
and
 
that
 
a
 
consolidation
 
of 
 
the
 
whole
 
into
 
one
 
simple
 
republic
 
would
 
be
 
as
 
inexpedient
 
as
 
it
 
is
 
unattainable,
 
I
 
have
 
sought
 
for
 
some
 
middle
 
ground,
 
which
 
may
 
at
 
once
 
support
 
a
 
due
 
supremacy
 
of 
 
the
 
national
 
authority,
 
and
 
not
 
exclude
 
the
 
local
 
authorities
 
wherever
 
they
 
can
 
be
 
subordinately
 
useful."http://press
pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch8s6.htmlNotice
 
I
 
provided
 
the
 
link
 
below
 
the
 
quote
 
so
 
that
 
you
 
know
 
Madison
 
actually
 
did
 
say
 
it.
 
That
 
quote
 
illustrates
 
what
 
Madison,
 
the
 
father
 
of 
 
the
 
Constitution
 
had
 
in
 
mind
 
when
 
he
 
drew
 
up
 
the
 
document
 
and
 
the
 
subsequent
 
form
 
of 
 
Government
 
that
 
it
 
was
 
to
 
create.
 
He
 
goes
 
on
 
to
 
elaborate
 
in
 
that
 
same
 
link
 
about
 
how
 
the
 
new
 
Government's
 
powers
 
of 
 
coercion
 
should
 
be
 
particularly
 
emphasized
 
in
 
a
 
specific
 
amendment
 
in
 
the
 
Constitution:"An
 
article
 
should
 
be
 
inserted
 
expressly
 
guarantying
 
the
 
tranquillity
 
of 
 
the
 
States
 
against
 
internal
 
as
 
well
 
as
 
external
 
dangers.In
 
like
 
manner
 
the
 
right
 
of 
 
coercion
 
should
 
be
 
expressly
 
declared.
 
With
 
the
 
resources
 
of 
 
Commerce
 
in
 
hand,
 
the
 
national
 
administration
 
might
 
always
 
find
 
means
 
of 
 
exerting
 
it
 
either
 
by
 
sea
 
or
 
land"
 
http://press
pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch8s6.html
1
 
In
 
the
 
Anti
Federalist
 
Papers
 
pg
 
35
 
it
 
highlights
 
Madison's
 
goal
 
of 
 
slyly
 
creating
 
a
 
strong,
 
powerful,
 
National
 
Government
 
and
 
to
 
eliminate
 
the
 
Articles
 
of 
 
Confederation
 
entirely
 
by
 
imposing
 
this
 
new
 
form
 
of 
 
Government
 
despite
 
people
 
being
 
given
 
the
 
impression
 
they
 
were
 
 just
 
meeting
 
to
 
amend
 
the
 
Articles
 
of 
 
Confederation:"The
 
plan
 
embodied
 
Madison's
 
intention
 
to
 
greatly
 
strengthen
 
the
 
national
 
government,
 
and
 
boldly
 
set
 
out
 
to
 
frame
 
an
 
entirely
 
new
 
Constitution
 
rather
 
than
 
simply
 
amend
 
the
 
Articles
 
of 
 
Confederation
 
as
 
the
 
convention
 
was
 
formerly
 
charged
 
to
 
do."http://books.google.com/books?id=t6Ynu
b9vrUC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=the+plan+embodied+madison's+intention+to+greatly+strengthen+the+national+government&source=bl&ots=Zs2sHIOeq2&sig=oxcHSDVjQ3hFUaoOHkfFmfI58T4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=y_FEUaXXK6qp2QWz04GgDw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=the%20plan%20embodied%20madison's%20intention%20to%20greatly%20strengthen%20the%20national%20government&f=false
We weren't even allowed to see the record of the proceedings from the drafters of theConstitution until 53 YEARS AFTER when James Madison's notes were released in1840. Why all the secrecy?:http://www.constitution.org/dfc/dfc_0002.htm
You
 
need
 
to
 
have
 
a
 
copy
 
of 
 
the
 
Anti
Federalist
 
Papers
 
in
 
your
 
own
 
personal
 
library
 
because
 
the
 
book
 
is
 
so
 
important
 
there
 
are
 
few
 
books
 
that
 
can
 
rival
 
it
 
in
 
terms
 
of 
 
significance.
 
If 
 
you
 
are
 
a
 
Libertarian,
 
an
 
anarchist,
 
voluntarist,
 
or
 
interested
 
in
 
political
 
history
 
these
 
topics
 
will
 
come
 
up
 
again
 
and
 
again.
 
George Washington wrote to Alexander Hamilton months before the Constitution wasratified:"The Men who oppose a strong & energetic government are, in my opinion, narrowminded politicians, or are under the influence of local views." That shows just how despised opponents of this new strong centralized FederalGovernment were by Founding Fathers like Washington.
2
 
http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/constitution/1787/hamilton1.htmlGeorge Washington then went on to talk about how the people needed a coercive,powerful Government to make them do what was in their best interest and that he and hispeers had formerly had too good an impression of the people to see things any other way:"
We have probably had too good an opinion of human nature in forming ourconfederation. Experience has taught us, that men will not adopt & carry intoexecution, measures the best calculated for their own good without the interventionof a coercive power. I do not conceive we can exist long as a nation, without havinglodged somewhere a power which will pervade the whole Union in as energetic amanner, as the authority of the different state governments extends over the severalStates. To be fearful of vesting Congress, constituted as that body is, with ampleauthorities for national purposes, appears to me the very climax of popularabsurdity and madness...We must take human nature as we find it. Perfection fallsnot to the share of mortals. Many are of opinion that Congress have too frequentlymade use of the suppliant humble tone of requisition, in applications to the States,when they had a right to assume their imperial dignity and command obedience."
George Washington to John Jay15 August 1786
http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/constitution/1784/jay2.html
Ok
 
so
 
let's
 
get
 
back
 
to
 
what
 
the
 
Founding
 
Fathers
 
set
 
out
 
to
 
introduce
 
in
 
this
 
new
 
Federal
 
Constitution.
 
During
 
the
 
constitutional
 
convention
 
it
 
was
 
expressly
 
stated
 
that
 
this
 
new
 
form
 
of 
 
Government
 
was
 
needed
 
to
 
stop
 
rebellions
 
from
 
the
 
states,
 
to
 
check
 
states
 
rights
 
and
 
to
 
protect
 
the
 
nation
 
from
 
"anarchy"
 
which
 
of 
 
course
 
was
 
likened
 
to
 
unchecked
 
states
 
rights:"2.
 
[FN9]
 
that
 
the
 
foederal
 
government
 
could
 
not
 
check
 
the
 
quarrels
 
between
 
states,
 
nor
 
a
 
rebellion
 
in
 
any,
 
not
 
having
 
constitutional
 
power
 
nor
 
means
 
to
 
interpose
 
according
 
to
 
the
 
exigency:
 
3.
 
[FN9]
 
tha
 
t
 
there
 
were
 
many
 
advantages,
 
which
 
the
 
U.
 
S.
 
might
 
acquire,
 
which
 
were
 
not
 
attainable
 
under
 
the
 
confederation
such
 
as
 
a
 
productive
 
impost
counteraction
 
of 
 
the
 
commercial
 
regulations
 
of 
 
other
 
nations
pushing
 
of 
 
commerce
 
ad
 
libitum
&c
 
&c.
 
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