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Read the emails: East Hampton residents react to proposed leash law

Read the emails: East Hampton residents react to proposed leash law

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More than 300 East Hampton Village residents respond to a proposal to require dogs to be leashed on all village beaches.
More than 300 East Hampton Village residents respond to a proposal to require dogs to be leashed on all village beaches.

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E-MAILSRE:DOGSONTHEBEACH ______________________________________________________________________________________
 
From:
Linda James [mailto:lbjames@mindspring.com] 2/14/13
Subject:
Georgia Beach
Paul,Ididalittlepickingupmyself……-linda __________________________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Linda James [mailto:lbjames@mindspring.com] 2/14/13
Paul,ItookthesephotosatGeorgicaBeachtoday.ThebeachhasbeeninthenewslatelynotbecauseofthestaggeringcoastalerosionthislastyearbutbecauseofloudcomplaintsfromanEHresidentaboutthedoglitteronthisbeach,whetherornotitisbagged.Isawnosuchevidenceonagorgeouswalktodaywithmydog.However,Ithinkifyoumovethelittercollectorfromitscurrentlocationtothebeachaccessentrynexttothebaggydispenseryouwouldsolvetheproblemyouseeinphoto#2.DuringfutureVillagediscussionsaboutthisissueofbagsleftonthebeach,IknowfromexperienceIwillbagpoop,leaveitonthebeachtobepickeduponmyreturnwalk.Anybeachlitter,whetherdirtydiapers,plasticbottles,food,balloons,mislaidbeachitemsorunfortunatelythedogwalkerwhogivesusallabadreputation,isanaffronttoeveryonewhoappreciatesthebeautyofourbeachesandthegrowingfragilityofournaturalresources.–linda
 
 
From
: Marilyn Young [mailto:mpys@optimum.net] 2/15/13I find it extremely difficult to believe that the voice of one person, Matt Norklin, who continues To hammer away at dogs onthe beach has so much sway power!I am a dog owner and I do believe I speak for many others when I say that we not only obey The beach rules but enforcethem when observing otherwise. As far as Main Beach is concerned, I do believe the humans have done more to defacethe beach than dogs. Banana peels, Styrofoam cups, etc., etc. are all over especially on weekends when the day tripperscome in.I will do everything in my power to keep our beaches open to dogs during the hours presently In effect for the summer season. Sincerely, Marilyn Young, East Hampton
From:
Paul Vogel [mailto:mail@vogelbindery.com] 2/14/13Keeping the beaches clean is an important responsibility for anyone who uses them, especially dog walkers. I walk mydogs on Georgica Beach every morning, clean up after them and also pick up any debris I find. Many other walkers do thesame. Regulations are vital but shouldn't be so restrictive that their purpose is to effectively ban an enjoyable stroll withyour pooch along the shore. Yours sincerely, Paul Vogel
From:
maidstonepgm [mailto:maidstonepgm@aol.com] 2/12/13I understand that the East Hampton Village Trustees are once again considering imposing additional restrictions againstdogs on the Village beaches. I would urge the Trustees to reconsider. Taking my dogs to the beach in the summer is oneof the few respites that I get during the summer. I own a local business and it is a major stress reducer during our veryhectic summer season.Rather than punishing the majority who follow the rules and control their dogs, I would suggest that heavier fines beimplemented. Sincerely, Pamela G. McDonald, Bermuda Bikes, 36 Gingerbread Lane
From:
NORBERT WEISSBERG [mailto:norbuls@optonline.net] 2/10/13Mr. Lester: I have been walking my dog on Maidstone and Wyborg beaches for many years. I assure you, testimony tothe contrary notwithstanding, that the community of dog owners there are ever vigilant in keeping the beaches clean for use by others.We are proud of our privilege to have our dogs on the beach. It is a fundamental reason why we live here in EastHampton rather than elsewhere. And, we are mindful of the responsibilities that go along with that privilege. Any time adog poops and the owner doesn't realize it, others on the beach point the fact out and get the owner to react.There is rarely, if ever, any difficulty with this self-policing.In light of this I am at a loss to explain the testimony about filthy beaches. It is at considerable odds with my experience,and I am there several times a week.We dog owners are open to any further reasonable self-policing ideas the complainants may suggest, including fines for failure to abide by clean-up rules. No-one in the dog community wants dirty beaches.However, making the beaches unavailable to dog owners would the wrong thing to do and would injure scores of peoplewho enjoy East Hampton's uniqueness with their animals.Perhaps you might be influential in getting the two parties together in a small arena to drum out rules that both can accept.I'd be happy to assist. Sincerely, Norbert Weissberg, 335 Further Lane, East Hampton, NY, 631 324 3280
From:
Eileen Lordahl [mailto:eileenlordahl@gmail.com] 2/8/13
Subject:
The beach is why I live here with my two dogsI walk my two dogs on the beach twice every day. I go to Main Beach, Wiborg and Indian Wells. It is such an importantpart of their day, and mine. I very seldom see "poop" remains and if I do, I clean up after other dogs. Most other ownersdo the same. I know two poop-eating dogs (Belle and Shep)who have little to munch on the beach, and their owners areglad.
From:
Whweil [mailto:whweil@aol.com] 2/9/13My wife, Rita, and I are residents of East Hampton Village. We own a beloved chocolate labrador retriever, Bosco. Hisfavorite times are spent at Georgica and Wyborg beachs where he can meet other dogs and sniff the unusual smells thebeach provides. For eight years, he did "therapy" work at the Hamptons Center for Rehab and Nursing. While he is not anoble animal (after all he did that work for the treats), the consequences of his behavior have been noble indeed.We have been participants in the beachdogs11937 cleanup details and are diligent in picking up after Bosco. It is our observation that almost all dog owners clean up after their pets. We would hope that dog access to the beaches wouldnot become more restrictive because of a few bad apples.We understand that mandatory leashing of dogs on the beach is being considered. In our opinion, that would defeat thepurpose of taking Bosco to beaches. His freedom of movement without the leash is a good part of his enjoyment there.Perhaps resurrection of the beachdogs11937 activities, which seemed to be appreciated by local authorities, or somevariant of that endeavor would stem this tide against dogs on the beach.Sincerely, Walter Weilp.s. I would also suggest, that in the interest of fairness, this discussion be postponed until the next season, when dogowners who rent homes in East Hampton Village can participate.
From:CharmaineCaldwell[mailto:charmcaldwell@yahoo.com]2-14-13Subject:IWILLMOVEFROMEASTHAMPTONIamwritingbecauseIobjecttoanychangeswhichwouldprohibitdogprivilegesonthebeaches.Ifeelthatthecurrenttimerestrictionsarefairandreasonable.Iseeveryfewpeopleonthebeachesbefore9amwithoutadog,andevenlessafter6pm.IhavebeenaresidentofEastHamptonfor67yearsandwalkingwithmydogsonthebeachiswhatwelookforwardtothemosteachday.Ifeelthatitisunreasonabletotakeoneman'sbiasedobjectionandmakemany,many,manyotherresidentsunhappy.Mygreat-grandfathersettledhere,my92yearoldfathergrewuphere,asmychildrenandIhave....andIwillmovefromEastHamptonifdogsarenotallowedonthebeachesatreasonable&daylighthours.Thankyouforyourtimeandconsideration,CharmaineMinerCaldwell,16CoveyCourt,203-858-6874
 
From:
Carol Saxe [mailto:saxestudio@optonline.net] 2/18/13
Subject:
Letter to EH Village BoardThere are ever increasing efforts to “suburbanize” East Hampton. The recent assault on East Hampton Village’s policypertaining to dogs on the beach is one such effort.Many people are bothered by the behaviors of others; such as trucks and SUV’s careening down the beach, the charredremains of fires streaked thru the otherwise clean sand, loud music, rowdy children, balloons harmful to wildlife left on thebeach and, of course, the ubiquitous non-biodegradable garbage left by humans, the plastic bottle. In many suburbancommunities where people live in congested over-developed areas, restrictions have been piled upon restrictions toprevent people from bothering each other and to ensure the sanctity of everyone’s chemically balanced lawns.However, many city dwellers and suburbanites come here to vacation to commune with nature in a way they no longer can in their home communities. I believe the East Hampton Village’s dog ordinance is enlightened, not outdated. TheEast Hampton community has valiantly fought to preserve its history, historic character and environment. For centuries,“man’s best friend” had important jobs helping humans hunt, farm, herd and the like. Today’s dog is more likely a well-loved family member and companion. The vast majority of East Hampton dogs are well behaved “good citizens” whoseattentive owners scrupulously pick up after them. I walk the beaches or woods every day with my dogs and on the rareoccasion when I see someone not pick up, I politely instruct them to do so. Almost always the abhorred violators arevisiting tourists or guests.I suspect a majority of residents have a dog as a family member and for many of us that walk on the beach with our bestfriend is the best, if not only, exercise we get. There is a joyous community of people and dogs that meets on thebeaches in the early morning. I have met many of my closest friends here at the beach in this manner. Many of our dogsenjoy the ocean as much or more than their human partners and their joy has been the subject matter of many of my mostpopular paintings.The answer to the issue of dog waste should be information and enforcement. As the Village has done with beach fires,efforts should be strengthened to inform all people visiting the beaches of the appropriate conduct and the absolutenecessity of controlling and cleaning up after their dogs. Perhaps on a trial basis, people could be asked to keep their dogs away from the sand area between the lifeguard stands at Main Beach. Borrowing from the late Mayor Ed Koch,perhaps in addition to the lovely polite signs that currently exist, we could have some new signage saying, “DON’T EVENTHINK ABOUT NOT PICKING UP AFTER YOUR DOG.”We need to preserve our East Hampton traditions, to live and let live, with respect and consideration for each other,despite our differences. Carol Saxe Buda , 6 Montgomery Ave., E H, NY 11937,www.saxestudio.com,www.carolsaxe.com,saxestudio@optonline.net631 329-8764
From:
CONSTANCE KENNEY <artgurl99@yahoo.com> 2/18/13
 
To:
"editor@ehstar.com" <editor@ehstar.com>; "editor@easthamptonstar.com" <editor@easthamptonstar.com>
 
Subject:
Dogs on East Hampton BeachesDear David Rattray,How unfortunate that East Hampton Village is attempting to remove dog access to our beaches! This is an assault onthose of us who respect the rights of all to enjoy peaceful and clean access. Perhaps greater emphasis could be placedon monitoring our beaches and assessing steep fines to those who show no regard for others. As a pet owner, I am surethat those of us who enjoy early morning walks with our dogs would gladly assist in helping keep our town a beautifulrespite for all! Yours truly, Constance Kenney
From
: kevinreynolds1@optonline.net [mailto:kevinreynolds1@optonline.net] 2/18/13 Subject: Beach DogsHello Mr. Mayor,I have met you on one occasion and had a wonderful conversation with you. I found you to be a very nice gentleman.In order to help you avoid the uncomfortability of creating restrictions for dog lovers, I do have help and a few suggestionsfor you.I am offering my services three days a week for one hour each day during the summer. I hope to have two other doglovers help me in policing a beach of dog poop. If I'm able to accomplish this, we will have one beach protected from dogpoop. It would be really helpful if I had someone with a nose for dog poop to help me. Do you think Mr. Norklum wouldvolunteer to work with me??? Lol Also as we do our volunteer work, we will be "the eyes and ears of the Police Department" as they used to say in the olddays. We will be able to watch to see if there are people that regularly violate the dog rules and coordinate withauthorities.I discussed this with Jenny Berkeley and she found a lot of merit to my ideas. If we can find four more teams, we cancover all village beaches.I discussed with Jenny that we could easily get dog lovers to sign a petition to raise the fine for violating the dog laws onthe beach. I would have no problem with those fines raised dramatically and double for second offenders. Would this helpthe cause?Personally I feel the punishment should fit the crime and I think that this crime is minimal. But on the other hand in order toguarantee the freedom of dogs on the beach I would be willing to go along with increasing the fines.I do have a solution to enforcing the dog laws on the beach. The only problem is is that how do we get the policedepartment to think that they came up with the idea. Excuse my cynicism. All you need to do is to have a police officer inplainclothes drive to the beach between seven and nine in the morning. He should be able to write enough violations to justify his job assignment.If you feel any of these ideas could be helpful in diffusing the situation, please let me know and I will discuss them ofurther with Jenny and see what we can do to bring some of these plans to fruition.Kevin, 631-324-2201www.KevinReynoldsMassage.com www.EastHamptonBabysitters.com www.VacationConciergeService.com 

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