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Miles

Kara

From:

Miles Kara [mkara@9-11commission.gov]

Sent:

Monday, September 01, 2003 8:35 AMTo: 'Miles

Kara';

'Edghill, Janet L, Ms, OSD-USDI';

'Downs,

Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI'Cc: 'jfarmer@9-11 commission.gov';'dhyde@9-11commission.gov'; 'sdunne@9-11commission.gov';'dcampagna@9-11commission.gov'

Subject:

RE: Latest NORAD delivery

Pat,

Janet,

on

second

look—yes on

Monday, Labor

Day!!—it

appears

we may

have

at

least some

of the

ground

controlcomms

with Langley birds;

but it is

still

not

clear

we

have

the

Otis equivalent.

Let us see

what

FAA

pulls

up

first.

The

exercise historical material from NORAD is fascinating. We may have one difficulty that

will

require your

help.

It is not

clear

in the

Amalgam Virgo

02

submission what material

is pre

9/11

and

what

is

post 9/11. Lack

ofdates

on specific line items is a hindrance. Let me come up with a definitive list for AV02, but please inject a noteofcaution into the process that when we are provided extracted material without the covering material the original

dates

of the extracted material need to be provided.MilesOriginal

Message

From:

Miles

Kara

[mailto:mkara@9-llcommission.gov]

Sent:

Friday,

August

29,

2003

10:19

AMTo:

'Edghill,

Janet

L, Ms,

OSD-USDI

1

;

'Downs,

Pat,

Ms,

OSD-USDI'

Cc:

'jfarmer@9-llcommission.gov'; 'dhyde@9-llcommission.gov'; 'sdunne@9-llcommission.gov';

'dcampagna@9-llcommission.gov'

Subject:

Latest

NORAD

delivery

Pat,

Janet, we are

seeing

some very responsive material, especially the debriefs of the Langley pilots.

Raises

the question if such debriefs will be forthcoming for Otis and Andrews pilots, as well.

Janet,

those debriefs show that we will need to go to Langley, but perhaps won't

need

to go to North

Dakota.

I

note some

duplication in the

NORAD material with documents previously delivered.

For

example,

we

got

a second copy of the NEADS transcripts as well as second copies of some of the Cheyenne Mtmaterial, logs specifically. Earlier, we also got multiple deliveries of the CONR chat log. I speculate that

the

initial

deliveries were direct from CONRandNEADSandthat NORADis nowsubmittingthesame

information.

Is it the

rolling

production

that is

causing

this and do you have any

suggestions

on how we

might save time and your end and ours in handling duplicate deliveries?

On

a different note, the debriefs of the Langley pilots clearly show that both FAA and NEADS wereinvolved

in the

actual ground control

of

pilots

that

day.

So

far,

we

have

no

transcripts, tapes

or

other data

from

either DoT or DoD that account for taskings, directions, instructions and other information relayed to

and

from the Otis, Langley and Andrews fighter pilots. FAA is separately pursuing its end of this issue.Please make sure that

NEADS/NORAD

accounts for ground control of the

pilotswhile

airborne in their

search

for documents related to the hijacked aircraft.Again, thanks for continued support and have a pleasant weekend.Miles

10/16/2003

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