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Dana Hyde
From:
Dana Hyde
[dhyde®
9-11commission.gov]
Sent:
Monday,
October
20,
2003 9:48
AMTo:
pat.downs@osd.mil; janet.edghill@osd.mil
Cc:
John Farmer; John Azzarello; Miles Kara;
Dan
Marcus; Steve Dunne
Subject:
FW: DoD
Follow
Up &
Outstanding DocumentsPat/Janet:
I am
forwarding
theemailI
sent
on
September
8,
2003, which
highlights the
documents
as of
that date that were
outstanding
or
required follow-up.
I
spoke
to
Janet this morning about Item
#2 - the
continuation
of the
NEADS
transcript.
As you
know,
we are
scheduled
to
visit NEADS next week.
Our
experience with
the FAA hasunderscored
the
importance
of
having
all
relevant documents before flying
out to
various locations
to
interview
relevant
personnel. Because
of the
Commission's deadline,
we do not
have time
to
revisit these facilities onceadditional information
is
discovered.
I
understand
you
have some technical difficulties with respect
to
this
transcript,
but
please understand that
we
asked
for it
(for
the
second time)
5
weeks ago;
I
would hate
to
have
to
delay
our
NEADS trip once again because
it is not
available.
As I
informed Janet, transcribing
the
tapes
for an
additional hour should
be
sufficient
to go
forward with
our
interviews, although, consistent with
our
requests
to
other agencies,
we
would
like
the
final
transcript
to be
continued
until
1200.
Also, at
your
earliest convenience, please provide
us
with
an
update
on
where
we
stand
on the
other items.
Thank
you. Dana.
Original
Message
From:
Miles
Kara
[mailto:mkara@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent:
Monday, October
20,
2003 9:34
AM
To:
dhyde@9-llcommission.gov
Subject:
FW: DoD
Follow
Up &
Outstanding Documents
Per
request
—Original
Message
From:
Dana
Hyde
[mailto:dhyde@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent:
Monday, September
08,
2003 12:00
PM
To:
pat.downs@osd.mil
Cc:
frontoffice@9-llcommission.gov;
'Miles
Kara';
jfarmer@9-llcommission.gov;
jazzarello@9-
llcommission.gov
Subject:
DoD
Follow
Up &
Outstanding Documents
Pat-
Per
our
conversation
Friday,
outlined below
are
items that
are
either outstanding
or a
follow-up
from
documents
we
have received
thus
far.
Thank
you for
your
assistance
if
following
up on
these matters. Please
let me
know
if you
have
any
questions. Dana
(1)
NORAD After-Action
Report(s) (Request
No.
1-10):
In response to
this
request(according
to the DoD
index),
DoD has
submitted
Documents
#NCT0016262-16359and
Document
#11166-11171
(although
this document
may be
mislabeled).
We are
seeking
from
NORAD
ALL
documents that could
be
fairly characterized
as an
after-action report.
This would
include
all documents
that
summarize, analyze,
evaluate
or
discuss
NORAD'sresponse
to the
events
of
9/11.
It
would also include
all
interviews with NORAD personnelthat were involved
in
NORAD's
air
defense operation
on
9/11.
If
there
are no
further
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documents
from
NORAD that fit this description, please confirm it to us in writing.
(2)
NEADS Transcript (Document
#NCT0000049-0000130):
This document is a transcript
from
multiple voice recorders at NEADS on
9/11.
For whatever reason, the transcript cuts
off
around 10:15 am. Our question is whether the tapes
and/or
transcript continued
recording
after 10:15
am, and if
not,
why
not.
If
there
are
recordings beyond this point,
wewould
like to receive a tape and/or transcript of them.
(3)
Col. Scott Materials (Request No.
1-10):
We spoke to Janet about this issue Friday
afternoon
andthis morning.Iunderstand that Col. Scott faxedhersome materials overthe
weekend
which we
will
be receiving soon. We'll await the delivery of those documents toassess whether this requesthasbeen completed.
(4)
Atlantic City Fighters:
In the
documents
we
have received thus
far we
have seen various
cryptic
references to fighters that NORAD may have scrambled (or attempted to) out of
Atlantic
City. Before requesting all of the documents from Atlantic City, we are looking to
answer
the basic question, "Did NORAD call upon fighters
and/or
other assets from Atlantic
City
on the morning of 9/11
?"
If so, then I will formulate a request for the Atlantic Citydocuments we need. If not, then we
will
simply seek clarification of this issue in ourinterviews.
(5)
Rules of Engagement (Request No. 1-5):
This request asked
for the
NORAD
ROE
concerning hijackings in effect on
9/11/0.
We neglected to ask for (and need) the ROEs in
effect
post-9/11.
Specifically, the New York Times and other papers reported onSeptember 27, 2001 ("A Nation Challenged: The Military; Generals Given Power to Order
Downing
of Jets") that "President Bush had authorized two midlevel Air Force generals to
order
commercial airliners that threaten American cities shot
down..."
We are
seeking
all
documents
related
to
this
change in the Rules of Engagement, as
well
any
subsequent
changes that
may
have
occurred
since
that
time.
Please
let me
know
if you
have
any
questions regarding this request.
(6)
Call Lists for Various Conferences (Request Nos.
1-3,1-1):
At the NMCC briefing welearned about the various conferences that took place on 9/11 (i.e. Significant EventConference and Air Threat Conference), as well as the new conferences that have beendeveloped since then (Domestic Event and Domestic Threat). We are seeking the JCS list
of
standing participants for these calls, both now and in effect on
9/11.
That is, we need
the
list of agencies (and numbers) that would have been called on 9/11 to participate in theSignificant Event and Air Threat Conferences, as well as the call
list
today for the Domestic
Event
and Threat Conferences.
(7)
NORAD Exercises (Request Nos.
11
&12):
In these requests we asked for the"intelligence scenarios" and "briefing papers" for various DoD and NORAD exercises. We
are
in the
process
of
reviewing these materials
but it
appears that
we are
lacking some
ofthe
"intelligence scenarios" for specific exercises; if that turns out to be the case I will followup with you on specifics. However, we also need (and neglected to specifically request)
the
"lessons learned" from these exercises.Thank you again. Dana
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Dana Hyde
From:
Aly,
Stewart,
Mr, DoD OGC
[alys@dodgc.osd.mil]
Sent:
Tuesday, November18,2003 2:22 PM
To:
Dana Hyde; Aly, Stewart,
Mr, DoD
OGC;
Downs,
Pat,
Ms, OSD-USDI
Cc:
Kevin
Shaeffer;
John Farmer; Miles Kara;
John
Farmer; Steve Dunne
Subject:
RE: DoD
Request
No. 4,
Item
11
Thanks
for
sending this
in
writing.
I
will
forward
it on and
either identify documents that respond
or
someone
who
can
speak with authority. According
to the
tasking documents NORDA sent
me,
this question
was
sent
out
from
NORAD
to its subordinate units, but I will confirm this.
Original
Message
From:
Dana
Hyde
[mailto:dhyde@9-llcommission.gov]
Sent:
Tuesday, November
18,
2003 10:26
To:
alys@osdgc.osd.mil;
'Downs,
Pat, Ms,
OSD-USDI
1
Cc:
kshaeffer@9-llcommission.gov;
jfarmer@9-llcommission.gov;
mkara@9-llcommission.gov;
jfarmer@9-llcommission.gov;
'Steven Dunne'
Subject:
DoD
Request
No. 4,
Item
11
Stu/Pat:
As I
mentioned
to Stu
this
morning, in our
conversation
with
Mr.
Merchant Friday afternoon
we
inquired
about
NORAD's
record keeping
of
exercise
related documents
prior
to
1998.
The
context
for
thisdiscussion
was the
Commission's Request
No. 4,
Item
#11 ("11.
Intelligence scenarios
and
briefingpapers
for all
national military exercises, since January 1993,
in
which
a
plane
was
hijacked
and/or
used
as a
weapon
and
which involved
any of the
following
DoD
entities: NORAD, JCS,
and
Special Operations Command (SOCOM).")
and DoD's
Response
at
Bates #239952-53 ("We
only
keep archives going back to
1998.").
Mr.
Merchant stated that
his
office only keeps computer\hard drive information related
to
NORAD
exercises
dating
back to roughly 1998, however other NORAD components
(i.e.,
Regions or Sectors)
may
keep exercise information
dating
back further than
1998.
He was familiar with our request (above)
and
mentioned that NORAD
may
have only checked
at HO for
such documents,
and not
gone
out to the
RegionsXSectors.
Our
question are
(1)
did NORAD search all the Regions\Sectors for documents responsive to this
request, and (2) if so, are
they
any
other documents responsive
to
this request that have
yet to be
produced
to the
Commission?
In
other words, does
the
Commission have
all
documents responsive
toRequest
#11?
I note that the Item is marked "green" on the DoD Index, and thus up until now weassumed
it was
complete.Thank
you for
your assistance
in
tracking this down. Dana
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