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Published by mary eng
USDC ACLU argues on behalf of thirteen wrongfully restricted from flight
portland oregon
21 june 2013
USDC ACLU argues on behalf of thirteen wrongfully restricted from flight
portland oregon
21 june 2013

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Published by: mary eng on Jun 21, 2013
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USDCPortland june 21, 2013part 2
qualitatively differentno plusdenied withoutgreen---a delaystigma mitigatedJudge: on aircraft mitigatedGVT: as a matter of law---plus attaches at all onlyto a single mode ---Judge: only mode of transportation---assumeboat---wrong to suggest---boat---for familymedical emergency---ailing grandparents---aperson in portland---not a significant burden? bcmaybe in weeks and months and 10, 000'sdollars to get to place where family is alreadydead----not significantly---maybe get a boat or arocket ship----accepts this allegationGVT: at the same time it is one interest intravel---one form of travel--
Judge: to call it convenience is marginalizing theargumenthugely expensivehuge impedimentundermines the point of what the plaintiff's arearguingthe plaintiff's deserve more crediteffectively this record shows no other practicalalternativeby other meansJudge: am i wrong in resisting the argument yrtrying to give meim having trouble offfering the solace yr trying togive me thety get to come home eventuallyGVT: the constitutionalityJudge: what if a person needs to travel for areason we recognize---any human---a death abirth----then trouble
very---expensive ticketGVT: "i am not sure why the person would do it"Judge: hypothetical: time-sensitive: familymember ill.traveler denied boarding. yr on nofly.person investigates ship options. no transporterrooms from star trek. then buy another ticket. tryagain. not productive to ask why----if they aredenied whouldn't they have a means to resolvethe issue---they can plan five months in advanceto get on some freighterGVT: if there is a liberty interestthe process is adequateJudge: inextricablesufficiency ischallenging at most basic levelhow can there not be a rtGVT: Gilmore: not a rt to airmost convenienti dont know of a liberty that attaches bc its most

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