Transcript of court hearing from the day before SUNY unlawfully diverted ambulances from Long Island College Hospital.
The judge clearly stated, as you can see in the transcript, that diverting ambulances from the ER would be a violation of his order.
Here are some highlights:
Pg. 48., line 24: [Mr. Seltzer – NYSNA Counsel] I think at the moment the note I was just handed by a representative of my client is that they just heard that the ER is closed, it is closed to ambulances at the end of the day. So one of the reasons we are hear is because we felt the need for some –
The Court: I don’t know what just happened. The emergency room was closed to ambulances. Somebody in the audience just handed this note. I am sure they are in contact with LICH and come to the conclusion that – so they know this. They are not taking anymore ambulances at the emergency room at LICH.
If that is the case, that is in violation, clear violation of my order. So if anyone can settle this case, Mr. Carone, I know it is you.
Make no mistake about it, I know I just dropped the big two ton thing on you. I know you can do this. So you need to be calling you clients now, let them know that people are – individuals will be named and they may well have to come before this Court and show cause why they shouldn’t be held in contempt.
Pg. 50, line 7 [The Court]: This is shameful, on the day they are coming to see the Judge. Does it get any worse than that?
Pg. 50, line 20 [The Court]: … in the event that I want to appoint a special administrator, is there going to be a problem in the Department of Health if this Court appointed some type of administrator itself.
Mr. Zhaleuter: Do you mean an administrator of the hospital?
The Court: Why not? Apparently whoever is there is not getting the job done.
Pg: 51, line 24: The Court: Don’t jump up too quick. Be serious now and I take it serious. I am just really not happy. On a day when you know you are coming to see me, I expect to hear good thing not someone coming into this courtroom saying, Judge, they are closing the emergency room.
Theoretically, it is the last thing that should be closed is the emergency room not the first, because somebody could be dying right now and that is what the Department of Health is charged with the responsibility of taking care of. Make no mistake about it. The Court understands what is going on here.
Pg 52, line 20: The Court: It means they are not accepting ambulances. If somebody gets sick, let’s say, just use this as an example, in this building right now somebody had a heart attack, they can’t walk over there. Definitely nobody wants to put them in their car. You need an ambulance to transport you there and you get there and you are turned around and maybe the other two or three hospitals that are very close going over the bridge to Manhattan, Brooklyn Bridge could be clogged you might not even make it to Manhattan.
So, realistically, I need this cleared up. That is as simple as that. And then we can go and come back here.
I will let you set something up with my Court attorney on the following. I want to hear positive things or I am going to sua sponte whatever I feel needs to be done, that is whatever it is.
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Supreme Court of the State of New York Hearing Transcript June 19 2013 Re: Long Island College Hospital
Transcript of court hearing from the day before SUNY unlawfully diverted ambulances from Long Island College Hospital.
The judge clearly stated, as you can see in the transcript, that diverting ambulances from the ER would be a violation of his order.
Here are some highlights:
Pg. 48., line 24: [Mr. Seltzer – NYSNA Counsel] I think at the moment the note I was just handed by a representative of my client is that they just heard that the ER is closed, it is closed to ambulances at the end of the day. So one of the reasons we are hear is because we felt the need for some –
The Court: I don’t know what just happened. The emergency room was closed to ambulances. Somebody in the audience just handed this note. I am sure they are in contact with LICH and come to the conclusion that – so they know this. They are not taking anymore ambulances at the emergency room at LICH.
If that is the case, that is in violation, clear violation of my order. So if anyone can settle this case, Mr. Carone, I know it is you.
Make no mistake about it, I know I just dropped the big two ton thing on you. I know you can do this. So you need to be calling you clients now, let them know that people are – individuals will be named and they may well have to come before this Court and show cause why they shouldn’t be held in contempt.
Pg. 50, line 7 [The Court]: This is shameful, on the day they are coming to see the Judge. Does it get any worse than that?
Pg. 50, line 20 [The Court]: … in the event that I want to appoint a special administrator, is there going to be a problem in the Department of Health if this Court appointed some type of administrator itself.
Mr. Zhaleuter: Do you mean an administrator of the hospital?
The Court: Why not? Apparently whoever is there is not getting the job done.
Pg: 51, line 24: The Court: Don’t jump up too quick. Be serious now and I take it serious. I am just really not happy. On a day when you know you are coming to see me, I expect to hear good thing not someone coming into this courtroom saying, Judge, they are closing the emergency room.
Theoretically, it is the last thing that should be closed is the emergency room not the first, because somebody could be dying right now and that is what the Department of Health is charged with the responsibility of taking care of. Make no mistake about it. The Court understands what is going on here.
Pg 52, line 20: The Court: It means they are not accepting ambulances. If somebody gets sick, let’s say, just use this as an example, in this building right now somebody had a heart attack, they can’t walk over there. Definitely nobody wants to put them in their car. You need an ambulance to transport you there and you get there and you are turned around and maybe the other two or three hospitals that are very close going over the bridge to Manhattan, Brooklyn Bridge could be clogged you might not even make it to Manhattan.
So, realistically, I need this cleared up. That is as simple as that. And then we can go and come back here.
I will let you set something up with my Court attorney on the following. I want to hear positive things or I am going to sua sponte whatever I feel needs to be done, that is whatever it is.
Transcript of court hearing from the day before SUNY unlawfully diverted ambulances from Long Island College Hospital.
The judge clearly stated, as you can see in the transcript, that diverting ambulances from the ER would be a violation of his order.
Here are some highlights:
Pg. 48., line 24: [Mr. Seltzer – NYSNA Counsel] I think at the moment the note I was just handed by a representative of my client is that they just heard that the ER is closed, it is closed to ambulances at the end of the day. So one of the reasons we are hear is because we felt the need for some –
The Court: I don’t know what just happened. The emergency room was closed to ambulances. Somebody in the audience just handed this note. I am sure they are in contact with LICH and come to the conclusion that – so they know this. They are not taking anymore ambulances at the emergency room at LICH.
If that is the case, that is in violation, clear violation of my order. So if anyone can settle this case, Mr. Carone, I know it is you.
Make no mistake about it, I know I just dropped the big two ton thing on you. I know you can do this. So you need to be calling you clients now, let them know that people are – individuals will be named and they may well have to come before this Court and show cause why they shouldn’t be held in contempt.
Pg. 50, line 7 [The Court]: This is shameful, on the day they are coming to see the Judge. Does it get any worse than that?
Pg. 50, line 20 [The Court]: … in the event that I want to appoint a special administrator, is there going to be a problem in the Department of Health if this Court appointed some type of administrator itself.
Mr. Zhaleuter: Do you mean an administrator of the hospital?
The Court: Why not? Apparently whoever is there is not getting the job done.
Pg: 51, line 24: The Court: Don’t jump up too quick. Be serious now and I take it serious. I am just really not happy. On a day when you know you are coming to see me, I expect to hear good thing not someone coming into this courtroom saying, Judge, they are closing the emergency room.
Theoretically, it is the last thing that should be closed is the emergency room not the first, because somebody could be dying right now and that is what the Department of Health is charged with the responsibility of taking care of. Make no mistake about it. The Court understands what is going on here.
Pg 52, line 20: The Court: It means they are not accepting ambulances. If somebody gets sick, let’s say, just use this as an example, in this building right now somebody had a heart attack, they can’t walk over there. Definitely nobody wants to put them in their car. You need an ambulance to transport you there and you get there and you are turned around and maybe the other two or three hospitals that are very close going over the bridge to Manhattan, Brooklyn Bridge could be clogged you might not even make it to Manhattan.
So, realistically, I need this cleared up. That is as simple as that. And then we can go and come back here.
I will let you set something up with my Court attorney on the following. I want to hear positive things or I am going to sua sponte whatever I feel needs to be done, that is whatever it is.