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Vasanta Vihar Newsletter -March 2003

Vasanta Vihar Newsletter -March 2003

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KRISHNAMURTI FOUNDATION INDIA
Vasanta Vihar, 64 Greenways Road, Chennai - 600 028.
Tel: 4937803/4937596.
E-mail: kfihq@md2.vsnl.net.in
Website: www.kfionline.org
KRISHNAMURTI FOUNDATION INDIA
Vasanta Vihar, 64 Greenways Road, Chennai - 600 028.
Tel: 4937803/4937596.
E-mail: kfihq@md2.vsnl.net.in
Website: www.kfionline.org

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KRISHNAMURTI FOUNDATION INDIA
Vasanta Viha
Newslette
MARCH 2003 24
 
T
he Krishnamurti Foundations in America,England, and India have decided to bring out
The Complete Works of J.Krishnamurti 
. The work,being undertaken seventeen years afterKrishnamurti’s death, commenced officially on 1January 2003. The full texts of all of Krishnamurti’stalks, dialogues, interviews, writings, and bookmanuscripts from 1910 to 1986 will be publishedin approximately fifty-five volumes of 500 pageseach, totalling 100 million words. An electronicversion on CD-ROM will be releasedsimultaneously. This multi-dimensional project willinvolve editors in America, Europe, and India andwill take at least five years to complete.An important aspect of the project will be thefree distribution of the
Complete Works 
to fifty majoruniversities, national libraries, and archives world-wide. All volumes and the CD-ROM will beavailable for sale through major distributors andthe five Krishnamurti Foundations. Electronicaccess will enable readers to read and download
The Complete Works of J. Krishnamurti: 1910-1986
texts using the ebrary
TM
Reader and through theInternational Krishnamurti Teachings website onthe internet.During his lifetime of teaching, Krishnamurtigave thousands of talks in the U.S., Latin America,Australasia, and Europe. It has been said that hespoke to more people over a sixty-five-year periodthan any other person in history. Interest in thisdefinitive edition began during his lifetime toensure that the original and un-interpreted recordof his teachings was preserved and madepermanently available to humanity for all time andall over the world. Publishing precedents have beenset in the twentieth century by the complete worksprojects of Joseph Campbell, Albert Einstein, andCarl Jung, but none approaches the volume of thework of Krishnamurti. Support for the project hascome from private donors, corporations, andfoundations world-wide. —Reprinted, courtesy:
Krishnamurti Foundation of America Newslette
W
e are problem-solving machines,aren’t we? We have been trained fromchildhood to learn mathematics, history,physics, and so on. All that becomes aproblem at school, in college, and university.So we become problem-solving machinesand thus make life into a vast, dreadfulproblem. There is great misery, poverty,brutality in this country. When you drivedown Bombay you see all those huts, tents, wherehuman beings live. You want to cry when you seeall that, and nobody cares. You listen to all this, butit makes very little dent on you. Governments don’tcare, individuals don’t care, because they are
Are you wasting your life?
Excerpt from a talk given by Krishnamurti at the Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, in 1984,published in the new book,
Why are you being educated?: Talks at Indian Universities.concerned only with themselves, withtheir knowledge, with their power,with their money. And students throughoutthe world are being trained to seek avocation of imitation: to pass examinations,get a degree, and get a job either inthis country or in America. As I wasinformed this afternoon, thirty per centof you probably go to America, whereyou make a lot of money. That is where all yourknowledge is leading you to. And we are asking: Ifyou are at all serious, what is your responseto all this? Either you withdraw from it all, join someashram or some gurus who are making
 
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tons of money. Or you enter into the world and getcaught in it. Or you live a life of your own.So what is the purpose, the meaning, of yourexistence? Please, the speaker is asking this in allhumility. Is life’s purpose merely to earn money, tobe married, have a house, power, position? Is that thepurpose of your life? Apparently it is. That is whatyou are all being trained for, that is what you want.And if you are dissatisfied with that, then you inventa purpose: to find God or some kind of illumination.If that too doesn’t satisfy you, you take to drugs anddrink and all the rest of the vast amusement. Onewonders if you realize what the entertainmentindustry is doing to you. Then there is the religiousentertainment of going to temples, doing puja, andall that goes on in a temple or a church or a mosque.Please don’t get annoyed, I am just pointing this out.So, if one may ask, are you wasting your life?—lifewhich is so complex, life which has no readymadeanswers. Life is vast and thereforeis something most extraordinarilysacred. And what do we do withit? You have to answer thisquestion, whether you are old oryoung.So, as students and professors,what is your response, yourresponsibility? You see, you havealways had leaders, especially in this country. Youhave had great leaders, political, social, and religious,and so on. And where have they led you? Where hasMarx led the communist world? Where have all theso-called sacred literature, the Upanishads, the Gita,led you? There is nothing sacred about them, no bookis sacred. So what is the meaning of all this existence?You may not want to look at it, you may want to avoidit. You may say, ‘I am too young, it is not my business.’And the older people say, ‘Sorry, we are too old, wecannot face all this any more.’ So what is all yourknowledge leading you to? Conformity, imitation?Mere absorption of information so that there isnothing original, nothing pristine?And what place has knowledge in love? Is notknowledge the enemy of love, the destroyer of love?Would you please consider this? You give abouttwenty or thirty years to acquiring knowledge ofphysics, linguistics, biology, sociology, philosophy,psychoanalysis, psychiatry, and so on. You give yearsand years to it, and you don’t give
one day or even one hour 
to find out for yourself what you are and whyyou are living like this.And have you realized that all human beings,whether they live in affluent societies, in castles or inhuts, share this human consciousness? Because allhuman beings suffer, go through great agonies, a greatsense of loneliness, despair, and the meaninglessnessof this existence. All human beings on this earth—which is so extraordinarily beautiful and which youare so sedulously destroying—whether they are thepoorest and the most illiterate or the highlysophisticated, suffer, go through a great sense ofdesperate loneliness, and face death. Every humanbeing on this earth shares all this. Do please listen towhat the speaker is saying, don’t get bored. Nobodyis going to tell you all this. We share the commonsorrow, the sorrow of the whole of mankind. Ourconsciousness is made up of all this. Yourconsciousness is not yours, though your tradition,both religious and social, says you are a separateindividual. Your consciousness is what you are: yourbeliefs, your superstitions, your fears, your anxieties,your lack of love, and your selfishness. It is theconsciousness of all humanity. There is no escape fromthat; it is a fact. Therefore you are not an individual.You may be a woman or a man,you may be tall, have fair skin, andso on, but you are not anindividual.
You are the whole of humanity 
. Because you smile, youlaugh, you shed tears, you gothrough great turmoil, effort, andconflict, and face insecurity. So youare actually the rest of mankind.You are not a Hindu, though you like to call yourselfone. That is just your local, provincial conditioning.So facing all this, are you going to waste yourlife?—passing some examinations, getting a job, beingtrained to imitate. That’s what you are being taught:to imitate, to conform, to fit into the pattern. And isthat the end of life? Then you ask: ‘What shall we do?Is there something else?’ To find something
totally 
different from all this, you have to have a great dealof intelligence. Intelligence is not knowledge.Knowledge gives you capacity, position, status, butknowledge is not love, knowledge is not compassion.It is only where there is love and compassion that thereis intelligence, and that intelligence has nothingwhatsoever to do with the cunning intelligence ofthought.So, if the speaker may most politely ask: Are youwasting your life? This is the only life you have. Youmay think there is reincarnation, that you will be bornnext life. That may be a mere theory. Even if youbelieve in reincarnation, what matters is how you livenow, whether you are good, whether you are a totalhuman being, not broken up as a scientist, biologist,as someone with a special career. If your life is brokenup, if there is conflict, your life is never a holisticmovement. So considering all this, ask yourself if youare wasting your life. Nobody can answer that
And this is what we callliving: never a moment ofquietness, never a moment ofgreat beauty in our life, butonly the incessant chattering ofthe brain.
 
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Why are you being educated?:Talks at Indian Universities
T
his latest publication of KFI brings togethersix talks that Krishnamurti gave at Indianuniversities between 1969 and 1984—one at theBenares Hindu University, two at the Universityof Bombay, two at the Indian Institute ofTechnology, Madras, and one at the IIT, Bombay.Krishnamurti’s chief concern here is to awakenstudents to the fact that the pursuit of knowledgedoes not liberate man from ignorance. Whileknowledge is indispensable, it also creates theillusion that we have the intelligence to meet thechallenges of life. This makes us neglect the vastand subtle field of the human psyche. Thisperspective comes through clearly in these talks,which therefore have significance not just for theyoung but also for parents, teachers, and all thoseinterested in the deeper issues of human existence.The talks are followed by Krishnamurti’s answersto questions put to him by students, professors,and others.Since this is a very special book, kindly bringit to the attention of the universities in yourlocality, colleges, and other educationalinstitutions. Pp 132+x. Price Rs 65.question except yourself. The speaker won’t tell you,because it is absurd, unintelligent, stupid, to say whatthe purpose of life is. The purpose of life is what youare doing now: study, or if you have already a job,earn more money, have more status, more power.That is what you want, and that is the purpose ofyour life.Also, we have to face the ultimate thing, which isdeath. You may not, as you are all young people, butit is there for you as well as for the older generation.You see, it is always there. And can you live withdeath? That requires a great deal of inquiry: to livewith death—not commit suicide, not run away fromdeath, but to know the depth and the greatness andthe tremendous vitality of death. It is all of life, this isthe whole of life—to be able to inquire into the wholepsychological world, to understand all that. Not frombooks, not from philosophers, not from yourprofessors, but to learn from yourself what you are.And you will discover, if you go into yourself, thatyour whole life is based on becoming something: theclerk becoming the manager, the reader becoming theprofessor, the chief minister becoming the primeminister, and so on. You are always trying to becomesomething outwardly and inwardly. And this is whatwe call living: never a moment of quietness, never amoment of great beauty in our life, but only theincessant chattering of the brain. Don’t disregard allthis because the psychological world, the inner world,what you are inwardly, overcomes whatever the socialstructures or the governments establish. You see it inRussia: they started out by having no government,no army, no division, no nationality; they saidgovernments would disappear. But the psyche wasfar stronger than the superficial social structure, andso they have now the privileged, the top people whohave everything in the world, the best of everything,like the top people here.So what are you going to do after listening to thistalk? Is your brain open to all this? What is yourresponsibility? Is it a global concern or your ownnarrow little yard, the narrow little self, the ‘me’,which is a very small affair? Are you going to beconcerned with the whole world? Which means youcannot be an Indian anymore, you cannot be aChristian, a Hindu, a Buddhist. All those divisionsare destructive, they have no meaning. We have tobuild a new civilization, a new culture, a new way oflooking at life.Do you want to ask any questions?
Question: Knowledge of any kind cannot be bad. What could possibly be bad is the use it is put to. In my opinion,the call of the day is to acquire or cultivate knowledge of using knowledge properly for proper causes. Kindly comment.Krishnamurti 
: Who is the user? Who is the entitythat is using knowledge properly or wrongly? Is notthe entity, the user of knowledge, himself knowledge?You say that if we use knowledge rightly it’s all right,but it is the wrong use of knowledge that’s wrong—that’s bluntly put. But the speaker is asking thequestioner: Who is the user who uses knowledgerightly? Is not the user, the thinker, also knowledge?Is he separate from knowledge? Or is the problemnot the right or wrong use of knowledge, but whatplace knowledge has? Knowledge has its right place,which is, to drive a car, to write a letter, or if you arecarpenter, to use the knowledge that you haveacquired about the shape of the wood, the quality andgrain of the wood, and so on. There you needknowledge.But does one need knowledge about oneself?Because oneself
is 
knowledge. I don’t know if youunderstand this. If I may most respectfully point out,your question is wrong; you assume that the user ofknowledge is different from knowledge. Who are youwho is going to use knowledge? Are you not the resultof centuries of knowledge, conscious andunconscious? ‘You’, the self, is knowledge. But youare dividing knowledge from the entity that usesknowledge, but both are based on knowledge...
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