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Pundit Versus Commonsense

Pundit Versus Commonsense

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Pundit Versus Commonsense
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PUNDIT VERSUS COMMONSENSE
 
1
PUNDIT VERSUS COMMONSENSE.
Commonsense
: - Can you give a clear definition of Jivatma?
Pundit 
: - Jivatma is Paramatma covered (
Ponthinadi
) by Avidya.
Commonsense
: - What is Avidya?
Pundit 
: - Avidya is what is composed of Tamas and Rajas
Commonsense
: - What are these?
Pundit 
: - These are the two out of the three Gunas constituting Prakriti. The 3
rd 
isSattva.
Commonsense
: - What is Sattva?
Pundit 
: - Sattva is Maya. All Sattva is all Maya. All Maya is all Sattva.
Commonsense
: - Has Jivatma any connection with Maya?
Pundit 
: - No. It is Mayatita.
Commonsense
: - What does ‘covered’ (
Ponthinadi
) mean?
Pundit 
: - It means
 Avaranamainadi,
’ what conceals or hides.
Commonsense
: - What does Avidya conceal then?
Pundit 
: - It conceals the
Satchidananda Svayam Prakasam
. (Everlasting Bliss and Self-luminous Light).
Commonsense
: - If this
Satchidananda Svayam Prakasam
can be concealed or veiled, canit be called Svayam Prakasam?
Pundit 
: - But this covering does not in any way diminish its lustre, its intelligence.
Commonsense
: - Then there is no harm or damage or Bandham by this veiling?
Pundit 
: - No.
Commonsense
: - Then Jivatma has no Bandham and no suffering?
Pundit 
: - Of course not.
Commonsense
: - Then there is no necessity to seek salvation, to desire Moksha?
Pundit 
: - No.
Commonsense
: - Then there is no necessity to practice
Sadana chatushtayam
, for 
Gurupadesam
, for 
 Acharya
or any such thing?
 
PUNDIT VERSUS COMMONSENSE
 
2
Pundit 
: - No.(But the Pundit was evidently not satisfied with this conclusions and  blinked sadly).
Commonsense
: - But this conclusion that Jivatma has no Bhandam or Moksham isevidently not satisfactory. Why?
Pundit 
: - This contradicts our experience or 
Pratyaksha Pramana
.
Commonsense
: - Then there must be a mistake, therefore, somewhere in your premises?Where is it?
Pundit 
: - (After a long thought) I should have said that by
avaranam
, beingcovered, there is Bandham.
Commonsense
: - Quite so. The Paramatma by reason of 
avaranam
is in Bandha?
Pundit 
: - Yes.
Commonsense
: - It must seek salvation.
Pundit 
: - Yes.
Commonsense
: - But is this conclusion satisfactory either?
Pundit 
: - No.
Commonsense
: - Why?
Pundit 
: - Because it contradicts
Sabda
or 
 Agama PramanaCommonsense
: - Please mention some?
Pundit 
: - “Satyam Gnanam Anantam Brahma” Tait. Up. 2-1.“He alone verily causes Bliss.” Tait. Up. 2-7.“Where is verily none else higher and subtler than this, which is higher than the high, and greater than the great; which is one, manifest, of endless forms, the whole universe, the ancient,
beyond darkness
.” (Mahanara. Up. 1.)“The green-colored, beyond the darkness.” (Tait. Aran. 3-13).“The Rudra, the Maharishi,
Transcending the universe
, first saw Hiranya Garbha the first of the Devas then being born.” (Mahanara. Up. 12).“The sage reaches Him who is the womb of all beings, the witness of all,
transcending Tamas
.He is Brahma, He is Siva, He is Indra; He the indestructible, the Supreme, the
Self-Luminous
.(Kaivalya. Up).

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