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A Lesson in Spin
Hey! You never
But Paul,
said we would be talking
you knew
about Amanda possibly
the PPT is
washing the victim’s
about spin
clothes!
A Lesson in Spin
"She got killed because she said 'No'. She said Narrator: "Private Investigator Paul Ciolino wants
'No' to something she didn't want to do. I think justice for Meredith as well ... BUT not at the
that people want to have justice served for expense of Amanda Knox.”
Meredith"
I like what Nathan has to say. Well … that is one big “BUT”. It seems some people want “justice”
It’s short, direct and contains done, but on the condition that Amanda is excluded. No one is in a
no “if’s”, “and’s” or “but’s”. position to say that a priori, Amanda is guilty of anything. However,
There are no caveats or it is suspiciously imprudent to separate a priori Amanda’s legal
conditions in his call for fate from justice for the victim, in particular given the evidence
justice. that’s out there.
Nathan Abraham - American living in Perugia Paul the PI, famous American investigator Paul the PI: ""She's a 20-year-old kid who has been
ripped out of everything that she knows and placed
in jail. Amanda Knox is sitting in a maximum security
prison in Italy wondering when she's gonna get out.”
Narrator: "Amanda and her boyfriend, Raffaele
Sollecito, have been in jail since early November.
Now, more than five months. Yet Paul Ciolino
believes the police have no convincing evidence
they had anything to do with the murder of Meredith
Kercher.”
"She got killed because she said 'No'. She said Narrator: "Private Investigator Paul Ciolino wants
'No' to something she didn't want to do. I think justice for Meredith as well ... BUT not at the Paul the PI: "This is a railroad job from Hell and
that people want to have justice served for expense of Amanda Knox.” she's sitting at the end of it right now.”
Meredith"
Not a shred of evidence. I won’t Edgardo must be one of those What leaks is he referring to?
post yet again the photos of the dozens (or hundreds?) of The “20% match” of the victim’s
Double-DNA knife, of the knife investigators and police officers DNA? Or the state of Rudy’s
stain on the bed, of the washing who form part of the Evil faeces in the toilet? Or Raffaele
machine, of 3 or 4 coincidental Mignini’s terrible secret plan to telling of the day he pricked the
victim-Knox mixes of BLOOD. pervert justice. Or so the victim while cooking? Or Rudy’s
spinners would have us believe “criminal record”? Etc. etc. etc.
…
Nathan Abraham - American living in Perugia Paul the PI, famous American investigator Paul the PI: ""She's a 20-year-old kid who has been
ripped out of everything that she knows and placed
in jail. Amanda Knox is sitting in a maximum security
prison in Italy wondering when she's gonna get out.”
Narrator: "Amanda and her boyfriend, Raffaele
Sollecito, have been in jail since early November.
Now, more than five months. Yet Paul Ciolino
believes the police have no convincing evidence
they had anything to do with the murder of Meredith
Kercher.”
"She got killed because she said 'No'. She said Narrator: "Private Investigator Paul Ciolino wants
'No' to something she didn't want to do. I think justice for Meredith as well ... BUT not at the Paul the PI: "This is a railroad job from Hell and
that people want to have justice served for expense of Amanda Knox.” she's sitting at the end of it right now.”
Meredith"
Peter Van Sant, “48 Hour” show host Edgardo Giobbi, police lead investigator Paul the PI: "I don't believe Raffaele’s DNA is on
Meredith's bra.”
Narrator: "Why? Because Ciolino says evidence
leaked in this case has often turned out to be
wrong.”
“heard stuff”??!!
Can’t CBS find a more
articulate PI than Paul?
Paul the PI: "Peter, high police officials told you they
had a witness who heard stuff that night, indicating
they had interviewed her and they owned her. Now,
we go interview the witness, and what happened?"
Nathan Abraham - American living in Perugia Paul the PI, famous American investigator Paul the PI: ""She's a 20-year-old kid who has been
ripped out of everything that she knows and placed
in jail. Amanda Knox is sitting in a maximum security
prison in Italy wondering when she's gonna get out.”
Narrator: "Amanda and her boyfriend, Raffaele
Sollecito, have been in jail since early November.
Now, more than five months. Yet Paul Ciolino
believes the police have no convincing evidence
they had anything to do with the murder of Meredith
Kercher.”
"She got killed because she said 'No'. She said Narrator: "Private Investigator Paul Ciolino wants
'No' to something she didn't want to do. I think justice for Meredith as well ... BUT not at the Paul the PI: "This is a railroad job from Hell and
that people want to have justice served for expense of Amanda Knox.” she's sitting at the end of it right now.”
Meredith"
Peter Van Sant, “48 Hour” show host Edgardo Giobbi, police lead investigator Paul the PI: "I don't believe Raffaele’s DNA is on
Meredith's bra.”
Narrator: "Why? Because Ciolino says evidence
leaked in this case has often turned out to be
wrong.”
Narrator: "A prime example: the witness police say Okay, this is important: These
heard three people running from the house that slightly grainy images of Signora
night." Capezzali are not Paul’s (in spite
of the CBS logo). She did this
interview with Italian TV in
December. She has not received
the media since then, perhaps
under a gag order.
Also, “A scream in the night, then
Narrator: "A scream in the night, then the sound of the sound of running” is what Nara
Paul the PI: "Peter, high police officials told you they running. That's what Nara Capezzali, said she told Paul the PI through the
had a witness who heard stuff that night, indicating heard from her apartment across the street from
shutters (you’ll see it further
they had interviewed her and they owned her. Now, the crime scene on the night of the murder. She
ahead). She actually told more
we go interview the witness, and what happened?" details on Italian TV.
told her story in this Italian television interview.
I heard a loud scream. Paul!
You may want to take note.
Narrator: "TV and tabloids had already been
reporting the police theory that three people,
including Amanda, were all involved in the crime."
I heard a loud scream. Paul! Do you think Paul wanted to jot down
You may want to take note. what those three different things were?
Here “one” and “one” aren’t Oops! Paul! You have to be Isn’t there a law against the
specific references to two of careful with those Freudian slips. harassment of witnesses?
the three sounds she heard, Didn’t your cameraman allow you
but to two persons’ various ‘takes’? Or maybe the Doesn’t the Michigan
movements. Maybe that’s a the old Sony Betamax camera Association of PI’s have a
fine distinction, but let’s make was low on batteries, after all Code of Conduct?
a mental note of that. those wistful images of you
looking over the Umbrian hills.
Narrator: "TV and tabloids had already been
reporting the police theory that three people,
including Amanda, were all involved in the crime."
or
It seems that Sra. Nara lives in flat #11. The CBS 48 Hours
show used Italian TV footage, showing her unique “window
within a framework”. The Italian interview with her shows her
built-in balcony- hers is no light iron structure. We see that
ground floor from Via del Melo (on the other side of her flat) is
not level with the top terrace of the carpark.
This is the reflection of the
bathroom ceiling lamp.
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7 14 This is the reflection of
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8 the cameraman’s
12 15 floodlamp.
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22 25 This is a carpark
26 streetlamp with a
27 round globe.
It’s almost directly in front
of Nara’s window (off to the
side by a couple of metres).
This carpark
streetlamp with a
round globe is just
below and right next to
Nara’s place.
The Eye Witness’s Testimony
From the television show we have partial tidbits of
Signora Nara’s testimony: Nara’s testimony from
Italian TV interview segment:
Nara’s testimony from "I heard a loud scream”
Paul’s point of view: “A More detail
scream in the night, then “You heard three movements”
the sound of running” “Yes, three different things”
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“… chilling scream …”, doesn’t that ring a bell?
Do you also remember Paul’s faux-pas when he
started to say that he was going to talk to “the
witness who allegedly sa.. [he corrects himself]
CBS 48 Hour web page: "I heard a heard something the night of the murder.”
big scream, a chilling scream".
Maybe poster Funnycat is right and Paul the PI is
(this is only on the web page, not a source for information on the Perugia crime.
in the televised 48 Hour show) The problem is that if he did have access to
additional information he didn’t provide it to us the
public, nor did he base his report or his test on it.
This La Nazione article
excerpts some of Signora
The Eye Witness’s Testimony
Nara’s testimony. TITLE: "An Agonising Scream"
SUBTITLE: The Victim's Cry and the Escape of the Assassins
“agonising scream” makes "I heard a scream ...and what a scream.... an agonising scream that made my skin creep ... right so .... it
me think of “chilling was the voice of a woman ... a woman ". Amongst the evidence that the prosecution intends to present to
scream” from the CBS establish the time of the murder and the simultaneous escape of more than person- thereby supporting
site. prosecution theories- there is also the transcript of the declaration of a 68 year old Perugian woman who
resides in Via del Melo (from the window of her house she can see the roof of Mez's house - ndr.) (the
woman says she heard screaming around 23.30 - ndr.),,. Here are some excerpts:
When she said ”and PM Mignini: "Are you able to tell where the scream came from?”
then I saw … ”, does Witness: "From the cottage"
anyone really think that PM Mignini: "From the house of Via della Pergola 7"
Mignini interrupted her? Witness: "Yes. Because it is true that people are always always joking and playing around, and there are
(it would be like a bad cars on the piazzale [top level of the carpark] and very often even below they spin their tires [now back to
detective novel - She: the night of the crime] so I looked out from my bathroom window, I looked up and down, but ... because I
“and the killers are …” see the end of the carpark and the beginning of the carpark, but I didn't see anyone on the upper level ...
He: “hmm, excuse me at the moment that I was withdrawing from the window I heard the trampling of gravel, of leaves ... that
but is Capezzali spelled came from the "vialetto” [access ramp to the cottage] … we don’t have leaves there below us... then I
with one “z” or two?”). I heard running ... running to escape."
think in fact that’s where PM Mignini: "How long after the scream?"
one excerpt ends and Witness: "Eh oh God it could have been two seconds, a minute and then I saw ... “
another starts. PM Mignini: "But did you actually lean out of the window to look?
Witness: "No because I have plants, but I could see through the window pane which doesn't have ...
shutters or anything but is only glass, double paned, but only glass. Then I could hear running on the iron
Via Bulagaio is a long way stairway ... "
off to hear things from. PM Mignini: ".... this iron stairway where does it lead to?"
Witness: "Well it goes from the carpark and ends up at the Via del Melo, where there is an iron gate. And
The pro-Amanda lobby shorty afterwards to Via Pinturicchio"
desperately refer to PM Mignini: "Someone was climbing these stairs, this iron stairway.”
Signora Nara as an “ear” Witness: "Running"
witness, however, it is PM Mignini: "Running, a single person or more than one?"
clear from her testimony Witness: "At that point I heard a single person"
that she saw things as PM Mignini: "And someone else .... but was there someone else?
well. Witness: "Well, someone else ran away from the driveway toward Via del Bulagaio."
(from La Nazione, 12 September 2008)
Would someone literally screaming for their life
The Eye Witness’s Testimony in the centre of this natural amphitheatre be
heard by at least some of the neighbours? I think
so.
From an acoustic point of view, there were three
elements to what Signora Nara witnessed:
1. A blood curdling scream
2. More than one person running hard on gravel
3. A person running hard up the iron stairs
Paul the PI didn’t recreate or even attempt to
recreate any of those.
All he did was to try to hear a couple of kids running
down Via Sant’Antonio on asphalt - a kilometric
route which nobody running away from the cottage
would ever follow.
The iron stair is bolted to the old wall, of which
Nara’s and her neighbours’ homes form a part.
Any running on the stairs at night would be
noisy. Why didn’t Paul try that as a test?
Maybe there’s an honest explanation, like there I estimate about 40 metres of gravel from the
wasn’t any time, or the Betamax batteries finally front door of the cottage to the gate in the street.
went dead. Or … maybe he actually did do the That would be perhaps 6 seconds of running for
test, but didn’t get the results he desired. each of the perpetrators.
What Could the Eye Witness See
From Her Flat?
We don’t know what text fills the blanks in between the excerpts of Signora Nara’s
testimony. Maybe the key points to her testimony only make reference to identifying the
number of suspects and the direction they ran in by the noise they made.
However, from my reading of the excerpts, there are a number of references to visual
aspects of her observations:
• Just after the scream but before hearing the running on gravel
” … I looked out from my bathroom window, I looked up and down, but ... because I
see the end of the carpark and the beginning of the carpark, but I didn't see anyone
on the upper level …”
• She didn’t lean out the window because of the plants, but looked through the glass
“ ... I could see through the window pane which doesn't have … shutters or
anything but is only glass, double paned, but only glass …”
• She detected directional movement - from right to left, beyond the west end of the
carpark - at a distance which would be impossible to detect only audibly, and she
could state a specific street which one of the two perpetrators ran towards
“ ... someone else ran away from the driveway toward Via del Bulagaio."
In spite of the network logo, these images aren’t directly from CBS. It’s the Italian
television interview with Signora Capezzali. The different conversions and
compressions that the video suffered don’t allow the viewer to make out much, with
resolution and contrasts rapidly degrading into washed out pixels.
However, the CBS images demonstrate that the area is well
illuminated at night. And that dwellers in the houses above the
carpark can clearly see those areas whose views are not
obstructed.
Let’s highlight what Nara could really see at
night from her window.
We’ve seen that the area is well illuminated.
Those big square windows on top look like
they belong to the San Agostino church.
The lights on the slope illuminate the lower
part of Via del Bulagaio.
Of course, she could see the roof of the cottage.
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Nara’s field of vision includes
Here’s an overhead these rooftops and the south-
east wall and windows of the
image of the streets San Agostino church
around Signora Nara’s
home.
What’s interesting to me is that almost a half of the document she signed (which appears to have been written by
a certain Puget Sound hermit with the moniker of a certain sea-farer - Alpha BRAVO CHARLIE!! - given the
verbatim use of that discussion board poster’s comments) is dedicated to either denying the presence of more
than one perpetrator, or to demonstrating that Rudy was the lone-wolf killer.
These people get nervous shakes about anything which points to more than one person being involved in
the crimes of 1-2 November 2007 in Perugia.
Under the heading “Incompetence at the Crime Scene”, Bremner writes: “This whole investigation would
be laughable if it weren't for the underlying facts -- a woman has been brutally murdered, and two innocent
people and their families have had their lives devastated by a botched investigation.”
This is known as the TIHBB defense
(The Investigation Has Been
Here’s someone who accepted Botched). It often accompanies the
poster Chris Mellas’ invitation on IWSSICRAETIWT alibi (I Was So
Internet for a private viewing at his Stoned I Can’t Remember Anything
Anne, is this investigation home of publicly available videos. Except That I Wasn’t There).
report photo of a shoe … or are you talking about the
Bremner continues: “I have reviewed the crime scene video, which shows how the police went about
printcollecting
on the pillow theThe problems
evidence. … or are
areyou
are talking aboutweren't
obvious.They the footprint footprint
careful with marked
the way by ILEevidence
they handled marker
“unique
insidespecimen”?
the room … marked by police marker “C”? “A” as the “unique specimen”?
… But it gets worse than that. They actively destroyed evidence inside the victim's room.The media have all
seen pictures of one bloody footprint, found near the body. The authorities presented this footprint as a
unique specimen, but it was actually one of several.
I quickly dug up those 3 different footprints documented by police in the victim’s room. I
think there are more. Anne, before publicly embarrassing yourself by signing your
name to text, maybe you should check it out to see if it’s full of falsehoods.
For some inexplicable reason, one of the officers at the crime scene systematically scrubbed away
these footprints until no trace was left. By doing so, they made it nearly impossible for the authorities to
establish their source.”
Further spin which isn't spin, but a big falsehood. This is an example of "if you repeat a lie enough
times, someone might start believing it". Bremner is stating in text what Telenorba visually
insinuated: the Telenorba video was dedicated to showing that the "botched investigation" was
based on incompetent evidence gathering in the victim's room. It refers to the Nike print and then
splices in video images of an ILE investigator making circular movements over a floor tile where
nothing is visible. The combination of video images and narrators comments make the viewer
assume that the investigator is erasing a Nike print in the victim's room. In fact, the Telenorba
image is of an investigator examining a non-visible item of evidence (Marker “3” is perhaps the
location of one of the luminol barefoot footprints) in the hallway, not the Nike prints in the
Under the heading “The Weak Case Against Amanda”, Bremner writes: “This should not matter, because
the evidence against Amanda is so weak. In fact, this evidence has been contrived by putting a negative
spin on information that has a completely innocent explanation …. here's what happened:
- Amanda came home after spending the night at Raffaele's place.
- She took a shower.
- She left these footprints after she got out of the shower.And that fits 100 percent with what she told the
police.”
Okay, Anne, I guess there’s a
“completely innocent explanation”
to Amanda’s footprint
perpendicular to the victim’s door.
“The police have also found Amanda's DNA at various places in the
bathroom. They have tried to make that sound incriminating, but she lived
there and her DNA would have been all over the bathroom. That kind of so-
called evidence means nothing.”
Anne, in your “completely innocent explanation” of Amanda’s DNA mixed with
the victim’s DNA, you make it sound like there was a hair mixed with a
flake of dandruff … I hear the SPIN alarm ringing!!! Why don’t you offer
fuller information to readers of your opinion-making piece? The DNA is mixed
because in different parts of the bathroom Amanda’s BLOOD is mixed with
the victim’s BLOOD. These are not normal places for menstrual blood to be
found (the tap and drain are from the sink), as Amanda’s mother has
suggested. Another suggestion her mother made in an interview to The
Times is that Amanda’s blood came from recently pierced ears. Keep trying.