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1 of 3 DOCUMENTSFederal News ServiceMay 20, 2009 Wednesday
HEARING OF THE TERRORISM, UNCONVENTIONAL THREATSAND CAPABILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE ARMEDSERVICES COMMITTEE;SUBJECT: "FISCAL YEAR 2010 NATIONAL DEFENSEAUTHORIZATION BUDGET REQUEST FOR DEPARTMENT OFDEFENSE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS";CHAIRED BY: REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SMITH (D-WA);WITNESSES: ALAN SHAFFER, PRINCIPAL DEPUTY DIRECTOR,DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING, OFFICE OF THESECRETARY OF DEFENSE (OSD); THOMAS H. KILLION, DEPUTYASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY FOR RESEARCH ANDTECHNOLOGY, U.S. ARMY; NEVIN P. CARR, JR., USN, CHIEF OFNAVAL RESEARCH, DIRECTOR, TEST AND EVALUATION ANDTECHNOLOGY REQUIREMENTS, U.S. NAVY; TERRY JAGGERS,DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE FORSCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY AND ENGINEERING, OFFICE OF THEASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR ACQUISITION, U.S. AIR FORCE;ROBERT F. LEHENY, ACTING DIRECTOR, DEFENSE ADVANCEDRESEARCH PROJECTS AGENCY, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OFDEFENSE (OSD);LOCATION: 2212 RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING,WASHINGTON, D.C.
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SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE SUBJECT: "FISCAL YEAR 2010NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BUDGET REQUEST FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SCIENCEAND TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS" CHAIRED BY: REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SMITH (D-WA) WITNESSES:ALAN SHAFFER, PRINCIPAL DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING, OFFICE OFTHE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE (OSD); THOMAS H. KILLION, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THEARMY FOR RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY, U.S. ARMY; NEVIN P. CARR, JR., USN, CHIEF OF NAVALRESEARCH, DIRECTOR, TEST AND EVALUATION AND TECHNOLOGY REQUIREMENTS, U.S. NAVY;TERRY JAGGERS, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE FOR SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGYAND ENGINEERING, OFFICE OF THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR ACQUISITION, U.S. AIR FORCE;ROBERT F. LEHENY, ACTING DIRECTOR, DEFENSE ADVANCED RESEARCH PROJECTS AGENCY,OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE (OSD) LOCATION: 2212 RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING,WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME: 10:30 A.M. EDT DATE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 20, 2009REP. SMITH: (In progress.) This morning we are going to talk about the DOD S&T programs and theadministration's plans and priorities for the S&T budget as reflected in their request this year. I have a brief openingstatement, and will also have a statement that without objection I will submit for the record.Just want to welcome all of our witnesses here today now to talk about this very important subject. This is going tobe a very interesting budget year for the DOD on a wide variety of programs. Certainly we've heard about some of thebig ticket items. But this has implications throughout the budget in terms of how we set our priorities. And Science andTechnology will be no exception as we figure out where to do our research, what our priorities should be on how tospend the money.Our overall priorities within the DOD budget are going to be critical to assessing that. And all of the gentlemenhere today are going to be critical players in making those decisions and moving forward. In general, I want to say thatI feel that, you know, our research and development in the science technology areas has done quite well.I think the best thing they've done the last couple of years is been responsive to the battlefield needs. We would alllike to have the long-term planning and we are still doing that. But there has been, I believe, a perfectly logical andreasonable shift in focus since 9/11 to what we need in Iraq and Afghanistan.And that help, I think, has been critical to the warfighters in terms of meeting our challenges by providing themwith the technological advances they need in many, many areas. Of particular note is the significant improvement inthe quality of medical care, you know, both in terms of battlefield survivability, the various treatments that are nowavailable.And then for those who are seriously wounded, some of the advances in prosthetics, in other care that has reallyimproved the quality of life for our men and women who are injured out there. And a lot of that has to do withinvestments that were made within R&D and science and technology. Certainly, there are many other areas wherewe've made those improvements.In the balance that we try to strike going forward is make sure we continue to meet those battlefield needs, but alsolook down the road, which was, you know, one of the main purposes of research and development off the bat and to seewhat our challenges are going to be in the future and to improve technology in those areas that are going to put us in thebest position to meet them, to make those investments early on. So look forward to hearing from our witnesses.And with that, I will turn it over to the Ranking Member Mr. Miller for any opening comments he might have.REP. JEFF MILLER (R-FL): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have an opening statement, and I would like tosubmit it for the record. But I have a couple comments that I would like to make as well.Thank you, gentlemen, for being here today.Page 2HEARING OF THE TERRORISM, UNCONVENTIONAL THREATS AND CAPABILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE OFTHE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE; SUBJECT: "FISCAL YEAR 2010 NATIONAL DEFENSEAUTHORIZATION BUDGET REQUEST FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
 
It was April 6th that Secretary Gates had a press conference where he gave us our first and the really only glimpseat this time into the significant investments that he was proposing to the president that would later be reflected in the FY2010 budget request. We've got a lot of questions for the secretary and the department as they're going to be coming outover the next couple of weeks.But you know, I feel that our job is complicated by the fact that we only have Fiscal Year 2010 figures to work with, and we've been told that future programmatic decisions will be based on the outcome of the 2010 QDR with somesignificant budgetary moves found in the Fiscal 2010 budget. I think everybody agrees that if we -- we've got to get thisrightYou know, this year's budget shows an overall decrease in the research and development, testing and engineeringaccounts from the previous year. I think it was back in '09 there was a 4 percent increase. But as I was going to say, if we don't get it right or we don't provide sufficient funding for research and development, our forces could findthemselves without much needed capabilities.I look forward to you gentlemen addressing these issues and answering the questions that we have for you today.Thank you.REP. SMITH: Thank you very much, Mr. Miller.I will introduce all the witnesses, and then we'll take you from left to right. We always strive for between 5 and 10minutes opening statements. There are all five of you, but I want to make sure that you get plenty of time to say whatyou've come to say. So please feel free to use that time.We're joined first of all by Mr. Alan Shaffer who is the principal deputy director for defense research andengineering at the Department of Defense; Dr. Thomas Killion, deputy assistant secretary of the Army for research andtechnology -- good to see you again.Rear Admiral Nevin Carr is chief of naval research, and I thank you in particular for being here this morning. Iknow you've got very significant family health care problems this past week, and appreciate your being with us here.We also have Mr. Terry Jaggers who's the deputy assistant -- guess you can get the prize for longest title -- deputyassistant secretary of the Air Force for science, technology, and engineering at the Office of the Assistant Secretary forAcquisition for the Air Force -- good to see you.And Dr. Robert Leheny, acting director for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, better known asDARPA. Welcome.And I should make a note we miss Mr. Tether, appreciate his long service and -- (laughter) --MR. : (Off mike.)REP. SMITH: I know. Doesn't feel right to be doing this without him, but I'm sure you will fill in ably. With thatwe'll start with Mr. Shaffer.MR. SHAFFER: Good morning, Chairman Smith, Ranking Member Miller.I ask that my written testimony be entered into the record. I am pleased to be here today on behalf of the nearly100,000 Department of Defense Science and Technology men and women. We strive to discover, develop, mature, andfield the best possible technologies at an affordable price for the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and civiliansdeployed in defense of our nation.3PROGRAMS"; CHAIRED BY: REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SMITH (D-WA); WITNESSES: ALAN SHAFFER,PRINCIPAL DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARYOF DEFENSE (OSD); THOMAS H. KILLION, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY FOR
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