• Embed Doc
  • Copy Link
  • Readcast
  • Collections
  • 3
    CommentGo Back
Download
 
 
Debates Galore 
 For years, I’ve been in debates with people. It can be fun and stimulating all in the same time. DueEast is a pro-Masonic propagandist who believes in the lies of the Discovery Channel (which supportsFreemasonry). I came in to refute this person recently in 2009.
Due East: replies to this nonsense.1. french revolution. Discovery channel: freemasons had nothing to do with itFact: freemasons openly admit they did it, in their own journals.Would you like to site sources such as these journals because I would like to see them. FYIOne of the most famous Free-Masons Lafayette fought on the side of the crown. It is thoughtthat Masons had some influence on the revolution because it is a fraternity which holddemocracy dearly important to it.
Response: First, this isn't nonesense. The words that you disagree with are from a manon Youtube who legitimately exposed the Discovery Channel's lies on Freemasonry.
 
 
Now, There are plenty of sources proving the Masonic role in the French Revolution.Lafeyette supported the American Revolution, which was against the agenda of theBritish Crown. The British Crown wanted to maintain America as a colony of theBritish Empire.Freemasonry overtly believed in democracy, but covertly advanced thenew order of the ages Utopia (as admitted by 33
rd
Degree Freemasons C. William Smith& Manly P. Hall). Freemasonry didn't rule all of the Revolution, but leaders membersof the Revolution were indeed Freemasons. That isn't a lie.In the chamber of Deputies during the session on July 1, 1904 the Marquis de Rosanbostated:• "Freemasonry has worked in a hidden but constant manner to prepare therevolution... We are then in complete agreement on the point that freemasonry was theonly author of the revolution, and the applause which I receive from the Left, and towhich I am little accustomed, proves, gentlemen, that you acknowledge with me that itwas masonry which made the French revolution."• Mr. Jumel: "We do more than acknowledge it, we proclaim it."• [Source: Mgsr. Henri Delassus, La Conjuration anti-chrétienne, vol. 1, 1910, p. 146;quoted in de Poncins, op. cit.,p.30].Here‘s another source on the French Revolution & Masonry connection: “Masonryearly comprehended this Truth, and recognized its own enlarged duties. Its symbolsthen came to have a wider meaning; but it also assumed the mask of Stone-masonry,and borrowed its working-tools, and so was supplied with new and apt symbols. Itaided in bringing about the French Revolution, disappeared with the Girondists, wasborn again with the restoration of order, and sustained Napoleon, because, thoughEmperor, he acknowledged the right of the people to select its rulers, and was at thehead of a nation refusing to receive back its old kings. He pleaded, with sabre, musket,and cannon, the great cause of the People against Royalty, the right of the Frenchpeople even to make a Corsican General their Emperor, if it pleased them…” (AlbertPike, “Morals and Dogma,” pg. 32-33).Freemasons wanted their utopian system under the guise of "democracy." Democracyis just as bad as an authoriatarian monarchy. The reason is that a Democracy dealswith mob rule suppressing the liberties and rights of the minority in a population.
Due East: 2. Discovery channel:wash DC symbolism has nothing to do with freemasons.Fact: why didn't they tell us the obilisk is an ancient pagan symbol for Osiris' penis.American Masonry has been very Christianized. Free-Masonry itself is religion neutral.
 
 
Freedom of religion is very important as is freedom of choice. And I would say DCsymbolism is somewhat Masonic as the architect and planner were Masons.
Response: American Masonry is not Christianized. It has nothing to do withChristianity as Freemasons admit to this.Freemason J. D. Buck wrote: "It is far moreimportant that men should become Christs than that they should believe that Jesus wasChrist." (Mystic Masonry, 1913, p.138).Freemasonry accept death oaths and believesin the Kabbalah (along with accepting tenets of Ecumenicalism). These and otherreasons prove that Freemasonry isn't apart of Christianity at all. It's an oxymoron foryou to proclaim that American Masonry is Christianized then say that Freemasonry isreligiously neutral. Freedom of religion is fine with me. The freedom of choice is fine aslong as it doesn't involve hurting people like in abortion. Abortion is murder and it isnot representative of the freedom of choice at all. D.C. is very Masonry since manyarchitects of various buildings there were Freemasons.
Due East: 3. the "G" in mason's symbol means goodness or god.FACT: "G" means "gnosis", ancient, mystery term for knowledgeon and on...The G stand for one thing and it is Geometrico (Geometry). The sacred science.
Response: The G in Masonry have many meanings according to Freemasons. I trust theMasons' interpretation of G better than you. G means to the Masons as meaning God,Generation, etc. Freemason W L Wilmhurst said that G means:"...The "G" therefore denotes the Universal Spirit of God, permeating and unifying allthings . It is a substitute for the Hebrew letter Yod, the tenth letter of the Hebrewalphabet, and out of which all the other letters of that alphabet are constructed incorrespondence with the truth that all created things are modifications of the oneprimal Spirit . In the Instruction-lecture of a Degree outside our present constitutions,the "G" is explained as having a three-fold reference ; (i) the Glory of God, or glory inthe centre ; (2) Grandeur, or the greatness of perfection to which man may becomeraised by initiation into union .with God at his centre ; (3) Gom-El, a Hebrew word of praise for the Divine power and goodness in designing that perfection and that unionbetween the Creator and the creature. There is also a Hebrew tradition that Gom-Elwas the word uttered by Adam on first beholding the beauty of Eve and perceiving theultimate destiny of humanity..."(MASONIC INITIATION by W.L. WilmshurstChapter II) Symbolic Teaching: Or, Masonry and Its Message is a book written by Masonic scholarThomas Milton Stewart. He admits that:"...On page 367: 'While it [the letter G] is the initial of Geometry, of God, and of the
of 00

Leave a Comment

You must be to leave a comment.
Submit
Characters: ...

uploaded a new revision for this document (#8)

01 / 22 / 2010

uploaded a new revision for this document (#7)

01 / 22 / 2010

uploaded a new revision for this document (#6)

12 / 29 / 2009
You must be to leave a comment.
Submit
Characters: ...