David Wilcock:
Interview transcript
- Part 4
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The Roa d to Asce n sion : D a vid Wilcoc k
Los Angeles, May/June 2007
Shot, edited and directed by Kerry Lynn Cassidy
(continued from
Part 1,Part 2
and
Part 3
)
Start of interview
David: During thetimethat I was having these extensive discussions with Antonio about
the 26 boxes of the Illuminati which he told me were the good guys, and I believed him atfirst, I was also
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January 1996
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I started to read the "Law of One" series, the Ramaterials. The source calls itself Ra which is the name that they took on in Egypt. Theyalso in the Bible show up as the Cherubeum or the Carabeem, these angels that protectthe tree of life. And Dan Burisch appears to have had an encounter with the Cherubeumwhich I believe is an encounter with Ra.And I said in our previous taping how there were two different occasions when someoneappeared to have been visited by some type of energy or entity during a time that was
auspiciously timed when I hadasked for that to happen. One waswhen this woman had a readingand it said to her remember thegiant, cathedral and I said, yeah Iwas in a giant cathedral in mydream about you and she startedfreaking out.And the other one was with mybrother where I was meditatingand I kinda started to fall asleep,and I see a UFO or what appearsto be a UFO. And I said now all Ineed to see is a ball of light withan intelligent message, causethat's the other thing that Ialways read about in these UFObooks. And then my brother hasthat happen to him... verypowerful experience for him.So there has been these timeswhen it seems like there's a direct connection. I'm reading this "Law of One" stuff in 1996and it's explaining three years of very hard core research I was doing, and it's likeeverything that I thought was an original thought was already in this material.However, the "Law of One" series is also cryptic. It's hard to understand. That's why wehave a study guide on my website, Divine Cosmos.com is the website.So, as a result, I kinda had to extrapolate further from what framework was put in the "Lawof One". And this went through multiple... I mean I have been documenting my dreams foralmost 15 years in a row... every single morning I write them down.I generate about a hundred pages every month or more. It's an unbroken transcript from1992 onward, so there's a lot of material in there. And a lot of this stuff would come downto the point of like using Google as sort of like divination trying to find information on theinternet by knowing what you're looking for, but being open to finding surprises.It's interesting too, 'cause Edgar Cayce claimed that one of his past lives was Pythagorasand the Illuminati/masons cite Pythagoras as one of their main influences, because hebasically reconstituted the Atlantean knowledge that had been dispersed throughout theworld.He traveled to India; he traveled to Tibet; he traveled all around and basically got initiatedin all these different secret societies, and gathered their information and put it together.And there was a whole Pythagorean secret school that he devised and made a kind of unified version of this.Of course more recently you have Francis Bacon, who's sort of the modern father of Freemasonry and so forth, who kind of put all this material together again. And of coursethe secret story with Bacon is that he was the illegitimate son of queen Elizabeth and wasnot allowed to be part of the royalty because his father was not the king.So he got banished by his mother when he found out what was going on, and he felt verybetrayed. That could partially explain why the Masonic movement at the top level is veryanti
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monarchical and ended up creating its own power system outside conventional royalty
and inheritance of power.So anyway, yeah, it's not an easy subject for me to talk about my own channeling. It's alot easier for me to talk about science because it's something I can prove; it's something Ican talk about. But what I can tell you is that if you do the work on yourself, if you dospiritual work, you will get to a point where you can start to experience the field of consciousness as a direct personal thing and this is best done in deep meditation.A lot of people are looking for some kind of placebo, some kind of like take acid or youknow, have the Hemi
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sync tapes from the Monroe Institute, or the glasses you wear whenyou are asleep and they shine color in your eyes. There's any number of gadgets andgizmos out there and people want to short circuit the process and gain immediate accessto your higher self, well it doesn't really work that way.You can't just crash the gate, because it can be very damaging. Your shadow self is whatyou have to move through to get to the fruits of your higher self. The shadow is whatguards the gate. If you haven't done your shadow work, you're not going to be able to seethis information yourself.As a result of that, and I shared some of this with you guys privately, there's some reallyawful stuff that's happened to me that I have never publicized which I all credit as part of my initiation. And the purpose of it was really to make me a lot stronger spiritually, so thatI would not be susceptible to the temptations of ego that come with being a public figure.I've had a lot of people who want to lay on these projections to me, messianic type of stuff because, you know, Edgar Cayce supposedly was this Atlantean priest, Ra
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Ta, whowas like the big kahuna back then. He became Ra who became the equivalent of Jesus tothe Egyptians.And I've had a lot of people over the years come to lay their hang
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ups on me, but theproblem with that is first of all, I don't believe it. I believe that everyone here at this timeis awakening to their higher self and their potential. And the idea of a singular messianicfigure is very old world, patriarchal thinking.It's completely implausible to, I mean even if it were possible, it doesn't make sense,because we're moving into a world that is non
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hierarchical; we're moving into a world thatis based more on society, community. Centralized power structures are the old way of doing things and that's what is showing so many flaws now, so...Kerry: So, to get back to the Ra material, in a certain sense what you seem to be vergingon is an explanation of what it's like to move from the third dimension into the fourth.Maybe you can tie some of the transitions that... or insights that you've gained about thatto where the Earth is theoretically may be going.David: I'm glad you brought that up. That's really a great entree to some of the deepermaterial. Now you have to understand that the level of treatment that I've given of this"Law of One" philosophy so far is extremely superficial. And that really is not a lack of myability as it is a lack of time and the depth and complexity of this material.We are as a planet moving into what they call fourth density. It's a density of what theycall unconditional love on the positive side, and on the negative side it's love of self. So,you can have 4D positive and 4D negative. Some people are going 4D negative like someof these top Illuminati people.You wouldn't really do that, because when you get there, if you're a new graduate, you'reat the bottom of the totem pole. Everybody else is over you. And it's like being in the hell
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raising movies, as I've said before. Whereas the positive 4D, which is what the Earth is
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