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The Father and His Son

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By D. J. Love, Minister,TSN, SBCrevised 6-24-2001refined 3-29-2007

What is the true relationship of The Father and The Son?

Was Messiah Y'Shua a god, is Messiah Y'Shua God or is Messiah Y'Shua the"Image of God?" Did Messiah Y'Shua ever claim to be a god, God or the"Image of God?" Did Yahweh refer to Messiah Y'Shua, as His equal OR Hisimage? What does it mean to be in

"The Image of God?"

We seek toanswer these questions and more in the following message

.NOTE:"God"

(Theos in Greek)

is an ambiguous term, justthe same as "Lord"

(Kurios in Greek)

is an ambiguous term.

See message

"Kurios and Theos"

God "

The Father

" is "

Yahweh

," and our "

LORD Yahweh

" is "

Elohim

."Y'Shua is the true spoken name of the first human to be appointed as a "Sonof Yahweh." Y'Shua

(erroneously called Jesus)

is

not

God, and neither is he agod or God the son. Y'Shua is simply "Yahweh's Anointed Messenger,Yahweh's appointed First Born Son

(of many to come)

, the "Passover Lamb,"and our "High Priest." Additionally, there is no such thing as "God the son."There is a pagan "god the son," but that has nothing to do with being a TrueFollower of Messiah Y'Shua (see

). Additionally, the error isfurther compounded by the ambiguous phrase "Son of God." Before we goany further, let's establish the truth of this phrase. The Messiah was

not

in allreality actually born "The Son of God" from Heaven. The "

First Born

" isactually an appointed position of Righteous

Inheritance

. He was of coursehumanly born with the potential of becoming the First Human to become a"Son of God." But Yahweh is planning a family of "Sons," of which Messiahis the eldest or The First to be appointed this distinction. This is why the

Ancient Hebrews were taught to maintain the Sacred Tradition of the "FirstFruits," of which Messiah was the"

First

of The

First Fruits

."Terms thatrefer to Messiah's future Spiritual siblings are "The Chosen Few," "TheElect," "The First Fruits," "The Children of God," "The Bride," "The Sons of God," and even symbolically as the city in which they will exist as "The New Jerusalem." There are more terms, but I think you get the picture.

Genesis 1:26

26 Elohim said, "Let us make

(physical)

man in our

(Righteous)

image,after our likeness

(as an anthropomorphism)

:Right away we can clearly see that man is an image or a likeness, but theverse, also, says "Our Image." Can we just assume that the "Our" is God TheFather

(Elohim)

and God The Son; if you do, you will be followingBabylonian tradition and pagan Roman doctrine, which is an unholy mix of various pagan and pagan christian tradition. But don't just take my word for it, let's search the Holy Scripture for answers.First of all, why don't I start with an alternate, but scriptural possibility for the "Our" in Genesis 1:26.

Revelation 4:2-4

2 Immediately I was in the Spirit. Behold, there was a throne set inheaven, and one sitting on the throne3 that looked like a jasper stone and a sardius. There was a rainbowaround the throne, like an emerald to look at.4 Around the throne were

twenty-four thrones

. On the thrones were

twenty-four elders

sitting, dressed in white garments, with crowns of gold on their heads.Here we can plainly see that there are twenty-four elders, who sit on thrones,with obvious authority given to them. Are they Gods or gods

? No

, regardlessof their authority, their power comes from The One True God, YHWH. Thisis further witnessed in Revelation 4:10-11 by their willingness to humble

themselves before Yahweh. However, this does not rule them out as beingthe "Our" in Genesis 1:26. After all, having the same Holy Spirit or

as Yahweh means that they are all of 'One Accord' and quite capable of acting with or 'On Behalf' of Yahweh; from whom they derive their power,authority, and dominion. Could Messiah Y'Shua have originally been one of these twenty-four elders

? No

, but he is listed among them now, because he presently

(and Symbolically)

sits in the "

First Born

"

position of Inheritance

; just like the twenty-four elders do, only he is symbolically seated on theright hand side of Yahweh; . See Mark 16:19, Luke 22:69, Acts 2:32-35,Acts 7:55-56, Romans 8:34, Colossians 3:1, Hebrews 1:1-14, Hebrews 8:1-3, Revelations 5:8.Did Messiah Y'Shua ever claim to be God OR the Son of God

(a SpiritualImage of his Spiritual parent)

; just the same as our physical children mirror many of our physical traits, YHWH's Righteousness seeking Children mirror His Spiritual

(Righteous)

traits?In Matthew 11:27 Y'Shua said that all things have been delivered to him byhis Father. Which simply indicates thatMessiah Y'Shuadoes

not

have any power, authority, or dominion without God the Father

(Elohim)

, and thatMessiah Y'Shuadid

not

have power, authority or dominion prior toreceiving the "Promise" of the Holy Pneuma

(Spirit)

. See Acts 2:33,Galatians 3:14, Ephesians 1:13.

Ephesians 1:19-23

19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His

(YHWH)

power towardus who believe, according to that working of the strength of His might20 which He

(YHWH)

worked intoMessiah Y'Shua, when He

(YHWH)

raised him from among the dead, and made him to sit at His righthand in the heavenly places,21 far above all

(Earthly)

rule, and authority, and power, anddominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, butalso in that

(Earthly World OR Promised Land)

which is to come.22 He put all things in subjection under his feet, and gave him to behead over all things to the assembly

(as His Proxy)

,23 which is His body

(YHWH)

, the fullness of Him

(YHWH)

who fillsall in all.

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