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Case3:12-cv-01006-JCS Document60

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Pages 1 - 11UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURTNORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIABEFORE THE HONORABLE JOSEPH C. SPERO, MAGISTRATESETH ABRAHAMS, ))Plaintiff, ))VS. ) No. C 12-1006)HARD DRIVE PRODUCTIONS, INC., )) San Francisco, CaliforniaDefendant. ) Friday ___________________________________) September 21, 2012
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
 
 APPEARANCES
:
For Plaintiff
: Murphy, Pearson, Bradley & Feeney88 Kearny Street, 10th FloorSan Francisco, California 94108
By: Steven W. Yuen, Esquire
 
For Defendant:
Prenda Law Inc.38 Miller Avenue, Suite # 263Mill Valley, CA 94941
By: Brett L. Gibbs, Esquire
 (Of Counsel to Prenda Law Inc.)
Reported By:
Katherine Powell Sullivan,Katherine Powell Sullivan,Katherine Powell Sullivan,Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR CSR CSR CSR #5812 #5812 #5812 #5812 Official Reporter - U.S. District Court 
 
Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 
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P R O C E E D I N G S
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SEPTEMBER 21, 2012 9:34 A.M.
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THE CLERK:
Calling case No. C 12-1006, Seth Abrahams4versus Hard Drive Productions.5
 MR. YUEN:
Good morning, Your Honor. Steven Yuen for6plaintiff Seth Abrahams.7
THE COURT:
Good morning, Mr. Yuen.8
 MR. GIBBS:
Good morning, Your Honor. Brett Gibbs on9behalf of defendant Hard Drive Productions.10
THE COURT:
I decided I love these cases. You may11have gotten the wrong impression in prior hearings, but I love12these cases.13They always have some bizarre twist. Here's the latest14bizarre twist. We're talking about the two dismissal rule,15right?16
 MR. YUEN:
Yes.17
THE COURT:
So either the two dismissal rule applies18and, as a result, Hard Drive Productions, Inc. would not be19able to sue Mr. Abrahams again; or, it doesn't apply, in which20case they would be able to sue him again.21If the two dismissal rule applies and they can't sue him22again, then there's no reasonable apprehension to sue, and the23Court lacks subject matter jurisdiction in this case.24
 MR. GIBBS:
That's correct.25
THE COURT:
So that's a little odd twist on that
Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 
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31piece.2On the other hand -- so, while you all are arguing the3opposite of that -- right? -- you want to apply the two4dismissal rule, and you don't, in various papers, I think it5actually works the other way around.6If the two dismissal rule applies, you can't have a dec7relief cause of action. Obviously, if it does apply, you can8have a dec relief cause of action, but the 12(c) motion would9be denied because we'd have to proceed to adjudicate it.10The question is whether it's barred. And I think that's a11close question. It really depends on this very vague identity12test that the Ninth Circuit has set down. It can depend on the13evidence in the case.14I would treat it like a 12(b)(1) motion. I mean, you all15submitted various pieces of what constitutes evidence about the16identity. There may be others, but there's certainly some in17the record before the Court. Things like the letters, et18cetera.19But there may be others, so I would treat it like a2012(b)(1) motion, and want to give you notice that I would treat21it that way, and give you an opportunity to respond to that.22Isn't that the box that we're in, that it's either barred,23in which case there is no subject matter jurisdiction, or it's24not, in which case -- and, also, you're in an odd position25because what you will try to do to preserve the case, at this
Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Katherine Powell Sullivan, CSR, RPR, CRR Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court Official Reporter - U.S. District Court (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 (415) 794-6659 
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