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John Sampson - Obama's Birth Place

John Sampson - Obama's Birth Place

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Barack Hussein Obama's Birth Place Contested!

(Born in Kenya, Mother lied and got Hawaii Birth Certificate?)

AS POSTED BY A RETIRED U.S. IMMIGRATION OFFICER on OBAMACRIMES.COM:

"by John Sampson on Sun 02 Nov 2008 02:39 PM EST"

So much has been debated about whether or not Barack H. Obama II is or is not a Natural Born US citizen. The problem is that so many people are totally uninformed as to the law as it existed in 1961 as it relates to the transmission of citizenship to a child born outside the US or its Outlying Possessions (OLP).

In an effort to clear the air, to get the FACTS out so people can clearly see the issue without opining or guessing as to the legalities, allow me to pontificate a bit. For the record, I am a recently retired Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, with more than 25 years experience.
Barack Hussein Obama's Birth Place Contested!

(Born in Kenya, Mother lied and got Hawaii Birth Certificate?)

AS POSTED BY A RETIRED U.S. IMMIGRATION OFFICER on OBAMACRIMES.COM:

"by John Sampson on Sun 02 Nov 2008 02:39 PM EST"

So much has been debated about whether or not Barack H. Obama II is or is not a Natural Born US citizen. The problem is that so many people are totally uninformed as to the law as it existed in 1961 as it relates to the transmission of citizenship to a child born outside the US or its Outlying Possessions (OLP).

In an effort to clear the air, to get the FACTS out so people can clearly see the issue without opining or guessing as to the legalities, allow me to pontificate a bit. For the record, I am a recently retired Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, with more than 25 years experience.

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NBC Obama’s Birth Place? 11/7/08 7:01 PM
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Barack Hussein Obama's Birth Place Contested!
(Born in Kenya, Mother lied and got Hawaii Birth Certificate?)
AS POSTED BY A RETIRED U.S. IMMIGRATION OFFICER onOBAMACRIMES.COM:"by John Sampson on Sun 02 Nov 2008 02:39 PM EST"So much has been debated about whether or not Barack H. Obama II is or is nota Natural Born US citizen. The problem is that so many people are totallyuninformed as to the law as it existed in 1961 as it relates to the transmission of citizenship to a child born outside the US or its Outlying Possessions (OLP).In an effort to clear the air, to get the FACTS out so people can clearly see theissue without opining or guessing as to the legalities, allow me to pontificate abit. For the record, I am a recently retired Department of Homeland Security,Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, with more than 25 yearsexperience.Part of that experience is understanding and comprehending immigration andnationality law which is at the center of this issue. In short, I know a "little bit"about what I speak of.In 1961, as opposed to TODAY, Section 301(g) of the Immigration andNationality Act, as ammended (INA) required the following: A child being born toone alien parent (ie. Non Citizen) and one citizen parent in a marital relationship,required that the sole US citizen parent to have resided in the United States for aperiod of ten years, five of which must have been over the age of 14.Today's version of the law has somewhat different residency requirements for the US citizen parent. But the law, as it applied on August 4, 1961, required tenyears presence, five after the age of 14.Barack Hussein Obama I (dad), was a citizen and national of Kenya. He was not,nor had never been, a United States citizen. Ergo, he is the "alien" parent in thisscenario. Stanley Ann Dunham (mom) was a US citizen by virtue of having beenborn in the US. At the time of Barack Hussein Obama II's birth on August 4,1961, Ms. Dunham was 18 years old, having been born in November of 1942. Assuch, if Barack Hussein Obama II was born outside the US or its OutlyingPossessions, on August 4, 1961, then Ms. Dunham could not transmit hercitizenship to her son because she failed to have accumulated the necessaryphysical presence requirements that the LAW (that pesky and inconvenient thingthat often time gets in the way of "change") demanded.
 
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The earliest in which Ms. Dunham could have transmitted her citizenship to achild born outside the US would have been when she was 19 years of age, whichwas in November of 1961 and NOT in August of 1961, when Obama was born.It's that simple. If he was born in Kenya, or anywhere else for that matter, otherthan the US or its OLP's, then he is not, nor can never be, eligible to hold theoffice of President of the United States of America in as much as he does not, nornever can, fullfill the requirements of Article II, Clause V of the Constitution of the United States. It's not an optional thing, regardless of whether or notsomeone thinks it's fair or not. It's the law, that pesky, recurring inconveniencethat seems to get in the way, time and time again.Now, the quesiton remains to be answered if he was born in Kenya or not. TheState of Hawaii has weighed in and states that there is a record of Mr. Obama'sbirth on file in the Department of Vital Statistics. However, THAT is not enough.There are two entirely different and distinct birth documents issued by the Stateof Hawaii. The first is a Certificate of Live Birth which is the traditional birthcertificate we all are familiar with for children born IN Hawaii.Then there is a different document entitled Certification of Live Birth, which isissued to children born OUTSIDE of Hawaii but whose birth is registered in Hawaiipursuant to a quaint and scarcely known Hawaiian law, Hawaii Revised Statute338-17.8.This law allows for the registration of a birth in Hawaii for a child who was bornOUTSIDE Hawaii to parents who, for the year immediately preceding the child'sbirth, claimed Hawaii as their principle place of residence.Dunham and Obama Sr. both resided in Hawaii for the year immediatelypreceding Senator Obama's birth. Ergo sum, his birth, even if it occurred inKenya, could legally be registered in Hawaii, and a Certification of Live Birth couldhave been issued, giving the uninitiated the impression that he was born inHawaii when in fact, he was not.It is misleading when the State of Hawaii states that they have examinedObama's birth record and it is valid. It could very well be the case. The ISSUEhowever, is whether or not he was born in Hawaii as he claims, or if he was bornin Kenya.There is of course, a plausible scenario in which he could've been born in Kenyaand yet have his birth recorded in Hawaii as having been born in Hawaii when infact he was not. It's quite simple acutally. His mother could have lied. That'sright. Ann Dunham could have given birth in Kenya, brought Obama back withher to the US and then fraudulently registered the birth in Hawaii. Is it likely?Who knows?
 
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Is it possible? As Sir Aruthur Coynan Doyle has written: Once you haveeliminated what is impossibe, whatever remains, however unlikely, is possible.In this case, anything is possible. And it's so unfortunate that all but one relativeon Ms. Dunham's side of the family are deceased. His maternal grandmother,who he conveniently just visited in Hawaii, is the one living relative that couldpossibly shed light on this subject. A simple question aksing her if her daughterwent to Kenya prior to Barack's birth would end the speculation, assuming of course, her response is truthful. And therein lies the rub. With so much fraudbeing perpetrated by the DailyKOS, Stop the Smears, and others, it's difficult tobelieve anything at this point.And isn't it oh so convenient that Obama goes to Hawaii on October 23, 2008 andthe Hawaiin Department of Health, after his visit to Hawaii, issues the statementthat the document they have is legitimate. The wording of their statement leavesa lot to be desired. It's a non answer to a question. Yes, the document is valid.And? Was he born in Hawaii ?????? Silence.The now infamous document posted on Stop the Smears and the DailyKOS,which has been determined to be a forgery by no fewer than three court certifiedForensic Document Examiners, was a Certification of Live Birth and NOT aCertificate of Live Birth or Birth Certificate. However, in an effort to obfuscate theissue, the term "Birth Certificate" has been used interchangably with"Certification of Live Birth".Assuming that Mr. Obama has a legitimate Certification of Live Birth, the questionmust be asked: "Why post a forgery?" The answer is as follows:A. There does not exist a legitimate, authentic birth document for Obamashowing birth anywhere in the US.ORB. He does have a legitimate Certification of Live Birth issued by the State of Hawaii. However, that document shows his place of birth as being in Mombassa,Kenya and NOT in Hawaii as the forged copy claims.What is troubling and frustrating is that Obama can, and has had the ability to doso for quite some time, resolve this matter by simply providing a certified copy of his authentic birth document. The only reason that is reasonable for his failure todo so is that he simply doesn't have a document that shows he was born in theUS. His documents all show birth in Kenya.As to his Indonesian passport, that, in and of itself, is problematic for Obama.

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