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Socratic Paradox

Socratic Paradox

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I Know That I Know Nothing.
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I know that I know nothing
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I know that I know nothing
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The phrase "
I know that I know nothing
" or "
I know one thing: that I know nothing
: ἓν οἶδα ὅηι οὐδὲν οἶδα
hèn oîda ὃti oudèn oîda
 scio me nihil scire
 or
 scio me nescire
), sometimes called the
Socratic paradox
, is a well-
 
known saying that is derived from Plato's account of the Greek   philosopher  Socrates.  This saying is also connected and/or conflated with the answer Socrates is said to have received from Pythia, the oracle of Delphi, in answer to the question "who is the wisest man in Greece?".
Contents
 
 
 
 
 
In Plato
The saying, though widely attributed to Plato's Socrates in both ancient and modern times, actually occurs nowhere in Plato's works as is.
 Two prominent Plato scholars have recently argued that the claim should not be attributed to Plato's Socrates.
 However, in 
, Plato relates that:
[…] οὖηος μὲν οἴεηαί ηι εἰδέναι οὐκ εἰδώς, ἐγὼ δέ, ὥζπερ οὖν οὐκ οἶδα, οὐδὲ οἴμαι
 
 – 
 
This man, on one hand, believes that he knows something, while not knowing [anything]. On the other hand, I
 – 
 equally ignorant
 – 
 do not believe [that I know anything].
 The impreciseness of the paraphrase of this as
 I know that I know nothing 
 stems from the fact that the author is not saying that he does not know anything but means instead that one cannot know anything with absolute certainty but can feel confident about certain things.
 Chaerephon, a friend of Socrates asked Pythia, The Oracle of Delphi : "Is anyone wiser than Socrates?". The answer was: "No human is wiser". Socrates tried to find someone who is wiser than himself, since he denied any knowledge, among politicians, poets, and craftsmen. It appeared that politicians claimed wisdom without knowledge; poets could touch people with their words, but did not know their meaning; and craftsmen could claim knowledge only in specific and narrow fields. The interpretation of Oracle's answer might be Socrates' awareness of his own ignorance.
 Socrates also deals with this phrase in Plato's dialogue 
 when he says:
καὶ νῦν περὶ ἀρεηῆς ὃ ἔζηιν ἐγὼ μὲν οὐκ οἶδα, ζὺ μένηοι ἴζως πρόηερον μὲν ᾔδζα πρὶν ἐμοῦ ἅψαζαι, νῦν μένηοι ὅμοιος εἶ οὐκ εἰδόηι.
 
 – 
 
So now I do not know what virtue is; perhaps you knew before you contacted me, but now you are certainly like one who does not know.
 (trans. G.M.A. Grube) Here, Socrates aims at the change of Meno's opinion, who was a firm believer in his own opinion and whose claim to knowledge Socrates had disproved.
 
It is essentially the question that begins " post-socratic" Western philosophy. Socrates  begins all wisdom with wondering, thus one must begin with admitting one's ignorance.
 After all, Socrates' dialectic method of teaching was based on that he as a teacher knew nothing, so he would derive knowledge from his students by dialogue. There's also a passage by Diogenes Laertius in his work Lives and Opinions of Eminent
Philosophers where he lists, among the things that Socrates used to say: "εἰδέναι μὲν μδὲν πλὴν αὐηὸ ηοῦηο εἰδέναι", or that he knew nothing except that he knew that very
fact [i.e. that he knew nothing] Again, closer to the quote, there's a passage in Plato's Apology, where Socrates says that after discussing with someone he started thinking that
ηούηοσ μὲν ηοῦ ἀνρώποσ ἐγὼ ζοθώηερός εἰμι· κινδσνεύει μὲν γὰρ ἡμῶν οὐδέηερος οὐδὲν καλὸν κἀγαὸν εἰδέναι, ἀλλ' οὗηος μὲν οἴεηαι ηι εἰδέναι οὐκ εἰδώς, ἐγὼ δέ, ὥζπερ οὖν οὐκ οἶδα, οὐδὲ οὄιμαι· ἔοικα γοῦν ηούηοσ γε ζμικρῷ ηινι αὐηῷ ηούηῳ ζοθώηερος εἶναι, ὅηι ἃ μή οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι εἰδέναι
 Where the translation is roughly: I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know.
Alternative usage
A secondary usage refers to statements of Socrates that seem contrary to common sense,  such as that "no one desires evil."
See also
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
References
1.
 
^
 Gail Fine, "Does Socrates Claim to Know that He Knows Nothing?",
Oxford Studies in Ancient Philosophy
 vol. 35 (2008), pp. 49-88. 2.
 
^
 Fine argues that "it is better not to attribute it to him" ("Does Socrates Claim to Know that He Knows Nothing?",
Oxford Studies in Ancient Philosophy
 vol. 35 (2008),p. 51). C.C.W. Taylor has argued that the "paradoxical formulation is a clear misreading of Plato" (
Socrates
, Oxford University Press 1998, p. 46).

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