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More errors in this presentation: 8.) The declaration of war by France had to do with the Franco-Polish Military Alliance. The declaration of war by the UK had to do with the Polish-British Common Defence Pact (25Aug39). Neither one had ANYTHING to do directly with the Munich Agreement. 9.) Between 22Jun41 and 19Nov42, the USSR had already fought the Germans off. The counter-offensive at Stalingrad was the big thrust, yes, but the beginning of the end came when Operation Barbarossa stalled on all 3 fronts - Leningrad, Stalingrad and the drive for the oil fields of the Caucasus - in the fall of 1941, a full YEAR before Stalingrad's counterattack. 10.) D-Day, like Stalingrad, was not the beginning of the end. That was when the Germans stalled, with a good deal of that being because of the weather. Had they had 2-3 more weeks in Oct41, they well might have succeeded in the East. In which case, D-Day could never have happened, because Hitler would have moved many divisions to the West. The divisions in the West on 06Jun44 were the dregs of the German war machine, mostly half-divisions, under-armed and under-supplied. The Soviets were defeating the Germans all by themselves, and would have overrun Germany by May 1945 - and not stopped until they reached the French Atlantic coast. The US-UK invasion allowed Western Europe to not be Communist, but did almost nothing to end the war, which would have ended in Germany within one month or so if its historical end. 11.) The 20Jul44 attempt to kill Hitler was the THIRD bomb planted that failed, The first was in Nov38, when Hitler left the Burgerbraukeller in Munich earlier than expected, and it blew up 9 minutes after he left. The second was 13Mar43, when a bomb on his plane failed to detonate, despite much effort to assure its reliability. Two other plans - to oust him from power - in which Hitler was going to be "shot while trying to escape arrest," were aborted almost at the last minute - literally. One, in Sep39, would have happened if Hitler ordered the invasion of the Sudetenland; Chamberlain's capitulation made Hitler look like a genius, so the popular support was lost, so the lynch pin called it off. The other, in Nov40, had the same main man, and he got cold feet at the last hour - that time thinking Hitler was onto them, which he actually was not. Hitler survived 17 plots to kill him, all told. Yes, ROCK-FAN, this slide presentation is VERY uninformed and inaccurate. As a report in history class, I would give it a D+. He/she did get some facts right, but the gist of it is piddle and uninformative. If his/her teacher gave him even a "C", his teacher is totally remiss. I recommend, since this person is hung up on this subject, that he/she read "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" (Shirer) at the least. Also, "Hitler" (Kershaw), "The Third Reich - A New History" (Burleigh), and perhaps "Nuremberg Diary" (Gilbert) and "The Nuremberg Interviews" (Goldensohn).

TravelerDiogenes

ROCK-FAN, you aer so completely correct. This person is very ignorant on history. Points that are WRONG: 1.) Hitler did not FIGHT in WWI - he was a Gefrieter, a runner, someone who carries messages. It was VERY dangerous, but Gefreiters did not fight. 2.) Although given a 5-year sentence for the Beeer Hall Putsch, Hitler only served about 10 months, getting out of prison in December, 1924. 3.) The march into the Rhineland did NOT violate "a treaty" - it violated the VERSAILLES TREATY. And its year was 1919, not 1925. And the Versailles Treaty was not with only the French; it was with ALL of the Allied countries, as well as including secondary countries. 1925 was the DAWES PLAN, which mainly addressed Germany's inability to keep up with the WAR REPARATION payments required to the Allies. The Dawes Plan DID pull Allied occupying armies out of the Ruhr, but did not in itself prevent Germany's army from entering the region. Versailles, though, did prohibit the Germans from entering. 4.) Austria never "stopped attempting to get along" with Germany - it was PROHIBITED from uniting politically with Germany by the Versailles Treaty. The ANSCHLUSS was when Germany annexed Austria - at the point of a gun - but England DID voice disapporval, as did France and Italy. 5.) The Munich Agreement (the ceding of the Sudetenland to Germany) was NOT "an attempt not to get involved in the war." There WAS no war at that time. It was an attempt to AVOID STARTING a war. 6.) FYI: The Non-Aggression Pact with the Soviets also had a secret clause so that Germany and the USSR could both occupy Poland, as well as other Eastern European countries, as they were taken over. This remained secret until after WWII was over. 7.) The invasion of Poland did NOT violate the Munich Agreement, which had nothing at all to do with Poland, but only the Sudetenland. (more in the next post...)

TravelerDiogenes

ROCK-FAN, you aer so completely correct. This person is very ignorant on history. Points that are WRONG: 1.) Hitler did not FIGHT in WWI - he was a Gefrieter, a runner, someone who carries messages. It was VERY dangerous, but Gefreiters did not fight. 2.) Although given a 5-year sentence for the Beeer Hall Putsch, Hitler only served about 10 months, getting out of prison in December, 1924. 3.) The march into the Rhineland did NOT violate "a treaty" - it violated the VERSAILLES TREATY. And its year was 1919, not 1925. And the Versailles Treaty was not with only the French; it was with ALL of the Allied countries, as well as including secondary countries. 1925 was the DAWES PLAN, which mainly addressed Germany's inability to keep up with the WAR REPARATION payments required to the Allies. The Dawes Plan DID pull Allied occupying armies out of the Ruhr, but did not in itself prevent Germany's army from entering the region. Versailles, though, did prohibit the Germans from entering. 4.) Austria never "stopped attempting to get along" with Germany - it was PROHIBITED from uniting politically with Germany by the Versailles Treaty. The ANSCHLUSS was when Germany annexed Austria - at the point of a gun - but England DID voice disapporval, as did France and Italy. 5.) The Munich Agreement (the ceding of the Sudetenland to Germany) was NOT "an attempt not to get involved in the war." There WAS no war at that time. It was an attempt to AVOID STARTING a war. 6.) FYI: The Non-Aggression Pact with the Soviets also had a secret clause so that Germany and the USSR could both occupy Poland, as well as other Eastern European countries, as they were taken over. This remained secret until after WWII was over. 7.) The invasion of Poland did NOT violate the Munich Agreement, which had nothing at all to do with Poland, but only the Sudetenland. 8.) The declaration of war by France had to do with the Franco-Polish Military Alliance. The declaration of war by the UK had to do with the Polish-British Common Defence Pact (25Aug39). Neither one had ANYTHING to do directly with the Munich Agreement. 9.) Between 22Jun41 and 19Nov42, the USSR had already fought the Germans off. The counter-offensive at Stalingrad was the big thrust, yes, but the beginning of the end came when Operation Barbarossa stalled on all 3 fronts - Leningrad, Stalingrad and the drive for the oil fields of the Caucasus - in the fall of 1941, a full YEAR before Stalingrad's counterattack. 10.) D-Day, like Stalingrad, was not the beginning of the end. That was when the Germans stalled, with a good deal of that being because of the weather. Had they had 2-3 more weeks in Oct41, they well might have succeeded in the East. In which case, D-Day could never have happened, because Hitler would have moved many divisions to the West. The divisions in the West on 06Jun44 were the dregs of the German war machine, mostly half-divisions, under-armed and under-supplied. The Soviets were defeating the Germans all by themselves, and would have overrun Germany by May 1945 - and not stopped until they reached the French Atlantic coast. The US-UK invasion allowed Western Europe to not be Communist, but did almost nothing to end the war, which would have ended in Germany within one month or so if its historical end. 11.) The 20Jul44 attempt to kill Hitler was the THIRD bomb planted that failed, The first was in Nov38, when Hitler left the Burgerbraukeller in Munich earlier than expected, and it blew up 9 minutes after he left. The second was 13Mar43, when a bomb on his plane failed to detonate, despite much effort to assure its reliability. Two other plans - to oust him from power - in which Hitler was going to be "shot while trying to escape arrest," were aborted almost at the last minute - literally. One, in Sep39, would have happened if Hitler ordered the invasion of the Sudetenland; Chamberlain's capitulation made Hitler look like a genius, so the popular support was lost, so the lynch pin called it off. The other, in Nov40, had the same main man, and he got cold feet at the last hour - that time thinking Hitler was onto them, which he actually was not. Hitler survived 17 plots to kill him, all told.

jbamg55

Hitler was fucking crazy he was killing people beacause of race. What he should of done is killed the thicko lazy people. Like all the heathens out there who beat up their girlfriends and wank off to football matches. Its like the BNP they say they have all these polices but you look at them and they are all fat thick wankers who cant get a job beacuse they are so fucking thick and lazy and then they blame all the immigrants for the problems. Then they read about hitler and get a massive boner and think they are on some super fucking quest. We are all cunts and mother nature controls us all. Darwins natural selection is true and no one can enforce it. Who knows who will be the superior race? All i know is that it wont be the fat, lazy, balding, pot noddle guzzeling, thick as shit, blame everyone else, tk max loving, BNP is alright, pick my arse and eat it, alright luv, i am english stupid working class fucking pricks that i work with. Thankyou! good night!!

rock-fan

whomever created this needs to research their history. although there is speculation whether or not Adolf Hitler commited suicide ( i personally think he escaped on a captured allied plane) it is reported he used cyanide. not a gun

popevx

Nice :) if you want to talk about Hitler on a discussion board go here, its a new discussion board recently opened. http://www.adolph-hitler.com

dovers

this is fantastic!

olaf

hitler in many ways was a great leader but he was living proof that an empire built with an evil spirit and based on unjust hatreds of whole groups of people will always find its own desruction.german jews almost won world war1 for the kaiser.the doctor that tried to cure hitlers mother of cancer was jewish.hitler in the end played out his emotional and pshycological conflicts and inner demons at the expense of his own people.leading to one of the worst defeats in world conflict.he never visited a bombed out german city never visited the wounded troops in the hospital he was a front-runner who gave less than a damn about the german people in the end

N D

hitler was a great leader who was freeing colonized country,can be read at www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com not likes other whiteman^s political will,.in his age.i think,thks

aqui

I think hilter, obviously was a murderer, but also a very smart person. He was very poor and he lived in the street, he had nothing, but at the end he almost gets the whole world. He knew what he wanted and always followed his ideals. If he hadn´t attacked Rusia he would possibly have won the war. Attacking Rusia made later two fronts of battle, imposible to play off against. I think that was the worst movement he did in the whole war. I saw the movie "Hitler, rise of evil", it shows Hitler´s way since he was a boy till he finally takes the German control, I really liked it, but I don´t believe that came about such that, cause history is told by the winners. But afer all he was a killer, he could have used that intelligence for good purposes, not for killing millions of people or making war, we just can learn from that, and try that it isn´t happen again.