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COMMISSIONSENSITIVEEvent:InterviewwithClaudioManno,TSADeputyAdministratorforIntelligenceDate:October1,2003SpecialAccessIssues:NonePreparedby:JohnRaidtTeamNumber:7Location:CommissionOfficeParticipants-NonCommission:ClaudioManno;BrandonStrauss,TSACounselParticipants..Commission:BillJohnstone,SamBrinkley,andJohnRaidt[U]MannocurrentlyservesastheDeputyAssociateAdministratorforIntelligenceattheTransportationSecurityAdministration(TSA).Priortoassuminghiscurrentposition,Mannoservedinthefollowingcapacities(fromearliesttomostrecent):-NineyearsasaSpecialAgentfortheUSAFOfficeofSpecialInvestigationswhereheworkedoncriminalinvestigations,terrorismissues,counterintelligenceandcounterespionage,-HewenttoworkfortheFAAin1987asananalystintheagency'sintelligencedivision.ThedivisionwasundertheAssociateAdministratorforCivilAviationSecurityandhad5or6staffmembers.(Mannonotedthatbefore1986,FAAhadnoabilitytoreceive,analyzeordisseminateintelligence.FAAreliedexclusivelyonotheragenciesforthreatintelligence.)HehelpedtheagencytobuildaSClF,trainairmarshals,andestablishliaisonwithotheragencies.-In1990,hemanagedanFAAsecurityfieldofficeinRome,Italythatpredominantlyconductedforeignairportassessments.-In1992,hebecameManageroftheFAAIntelligenceOperationsDivisionworkingon"indicationsandwarnings."HemanagedtheWatch,handledliaisonwithCIA,State,laterFBI,andmuchlaterNSA..-In1995,hebecameDeputytotheDirectoroftheOfficeofCivilAviationIntelligence(ACI)(PatMcDonnell).HeservedinthatcapacityuntilAugustof2001whenhebecame
theDirectorofACI.
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-Hisofficewastransferredtotheauthorityofthe'''rSAwhentheagencywascreatedinNovember,2001.-...OriginsofACI[U]TheFAAIntelligencedivisionwasestablishedpursuant..otherecommendationsofacommissionheadedbyVicePresidentBushontheissueofanti-terrorism.TheofficewastaskedwithsettingupIntelligencerequirementsandfollowing-uponissuesbearingonthreatstocivilaviation.\,IntelligenceCollectionGoals~Mannowasaskedwhattheaviationcollectionrequirementswerebeginningintheearly1990'sforACI.MannoreportedthatACIaskedtheIntelligenceCommunityforassessmentsofthethreatfromterrorists,andinformationaboutterrorist
groups
whohadademonstratedaninterestintargetingaviation,suchasHezbolIah,AbuNidalandPalestiniangroups.ACItaskedthe
IC
tolookforcapabilitiesandintentionsto
target
civilaviation.\'......J:S8ffTherequirementsw~retransmittedtotheIC,particularlythe
FBI
andCIA,inwriting.InthesecommunicationsACIindicatedwhatthecategoriesofmaterialtheywantedmadepartftheir"readinglist."ACILiaisonstothe[U]FollowingthePanAm103disaster,ACIestablishedliaisonswithStateDepartmentandtheCIAsometime(in1990-91).LiaisonwasestablishedwiththeFBIin1996andthenwiththeNSAsometimeafterthat.~TheCIAliaisonwasestablishedinthe"Reporting"sectionoftheeTCundertheauspicesoftheDirectorofOperationswhereinformationfromtheagency'scollectionspointscameintotheCIAHeadquarters.Mannoindicatedthatheandhiscolleaguessurmisedtheyweren'tgettingeverythingthattheIChassotheyplacedtheliaisonofficersatthe
CIA
andotheragenciestohelpfacilitatetheflowofinfonnation.~TheliaisonofficersreviewedthereportingthatflowedintotheCIA;advocatedforFAAtoreceivetheinformationtheydesired,andworkedthe"tearline"todevelopunclassifiedinformationthatthefederalgovernmentcouldsharewiththeindustryaboutthreatstocivilaviation.COMMISSIONSENSITIVESSI
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[~TheCIAliaisonreceivedafullbackgroundcheckandwasfullyintegratedintotheCTC.Whilepriorityoneforthe
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wastoworkonFAAissues,anyleftovertimecouldbeusedtoworkonissuesfortheCIA.~]WhileFAApaidforthebillet,MannoremembersthatCIAwasattemptingtoreimburseFAAforthecost,butthiseffortwasscrubbedbecauseofbudget/administrativereasons.[~TheFBIL.O.wasassignedtotheCounter-TerrorismunitatFBIHeadquarters.~MannosaidthatwhiletheCIAliaisonwasabletoreviewasteadystreamofintelligencedataflowingintotheCIA,theFBIdidNOThaveanystreamofreportingthatwentouttothevariousagencies.~Mannomentionedthe"splintering"and"compartmentalization"thatmadeliaisonwiththeFBIproblematic.TheFBIliaisonwasnotafull-timebilletatfirst.TheliaisonworkedatFBItwoorthreetimesaweek.Thejobwasmadefulltimeafter1996.AsfortheliaisonwiththeStateDepartment,DoShasautomatic"slugging"(e.g.PTERforPoliticalTerrorism)whichassuredthatreportswithparticularheadingsweresenttoACI.~Mannostressedthattheliaisonswerehighqualitypersonnel,...c_it_in.........
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whowastheL.O.withCIAandwashimselfaformerCIAofficer.liaisontoCIAleadinguptoandon9-11).,"""--_..~TomArbutus(unsureofspellingoflastname)istheTS~.'li~i~~ntoCIAtoday.~]Mannosaidhecommunicatedwiththeliaisonqffj6ersviaaSTU3teJe~hone.Duringthesecallstheywouldformulatequestions
and-task
theCIAortodoparticularfollow-up.MannofoundtheCIAtobe
y,try'
responsive.Mannoindicatedthat~:~hadbeen"pestsforinformation."[U]MannomentionedtheInteragencyIntelligenceCommitteeonTerrorismwhichwasaforumfortheICandnon-ICagenciestomeetandshareinformationandassessments.ThenCTdidproducewrittenthreatassessments......
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