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Yet, their extremist snuff films are not considered "art" nor
would their bloody video manifestos be protected in America
under the guise of "free speech." None of this should surprise any
of you because you know the reality of what such extremists are
capable of.
It's not just shock-rock anymore. That line was crossed a long
time ago. How much more killing is it going to take before
America realizes that the rap/hip-hop culture is a homicidal
culture?
RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED
TERRORISM
In a music video entitled "In Tha Name Of," the rappers behead
Christians. The video is shot in a room designed to resemble the
apartment of David Berkowitz.
Get the idea?
-- An Outraged Citizen
http://horror-core.blogspot.com/
Anonymous said...
im hearing that a chick by the name of RAZAKEL? asked this kid SAM to
kill these 2 poor girls because they slept with sicktanick after some
concert they just had, anyone heard of this? supposedly Razakel is also a
rapper that dates sickfaggot and is on SKR...and raps about the same stuff
MAYBE worse then her counterpart sicktanick
September 23, 2009 3:17 PM
Anonymous said...
Arrest ALL these degenerate sociopaths.
what garbage
September 23, 2009 4:14 PM
Anonymous said...
I saw his MySpace page, I know their going to remove it soon, but I don't
see how the Shrim guy can defend him. I mourn for the victims and their
families. That poor girl trusted someone she didn't really know. A real
creep!!
September 23, 2009 4:28 PM
Anonymous said...
HorrorCore Rules!!!! Holyrollers suck!!!
Anonymous said...
This was all a plan mapped out by Sicktanick to gain fame!!!! that is 100%
fact...they asked this Sam guy to murder these girls at some concert they
had in MICH. so they could gain fame...Y u think SICK called the cops to
act innocent???
September 23, 2009 8:28 PM
Anonymous said...
Unholy Execution
Hook
Welcome, Welcome, To My, Unholy Execution
after 9/11 everyone got patriotic but before 9/11 it was about
the chronic no one really gave a fuck about this country
and it took a disaster like this to bring a little unity
thats pathetic and i wont accept that so i got anthrax
mustard gas and a guest pass to the white house
im fittin to have some fun so fuck george bush his
wife and his bitch ass son fuck the democrats
too and all of congress you wanna imprison
the public and now your gunna be haunted, after that
im off to the vatican with a hijacked plane
and a mind full of sin, preachin thier nonsense
im gunna cause a real ruckus you want the devil
well your gunna get him fuck it, and as the plane
collides the tears fall from your eyes your all gunna
die and your heaven is denied
Hook
say farewell to the flesh our most prized posession
and during the exorcism i took the devils blessing
and now i got c4 strapped to my chest as i enter the church
i said give god your best cause your all about to die
and your faith means nothing and where the hell you
goin to your not runnin and im gunning for every church in america
im gunna show em thier worth through hysteria
as a pile of ashes i blast this murder is my drug motherfuckers
and ive become an addict so dont panic on the plane
when im by you just grab your nuts motherfucker
and let me show you the truth there is no god or a war
for oil its only me on this earth and im in control so when
the big bomb busts are you gunna be awake in your city
im killin and this is real and not fake.
September 23, 2009 10:13 PM
Anonymous said...
LOL Did you really think your that rap was good and had any musical
value what so ever? lolololololol, Almost as funny as some ginger satan
kid going cross country to butch people! South park should make an
episode
September 24, 2009 8:28 AM
Anonymous said...
What about the christians that have barbarically murdered and butchered
people throughout history? What about when christians burned witches at
the stake? What about the catholic churches stance of neutrality during
wwII? What makes this any different?I can guarantee you beyond all
doubt that more murders have been carried out in the name of God then
will ever be perpetrated by a horrorcore fan or rapper. This is an extremely
stupid letter. Get off your soap box and realize that you are no different.
Just a fan of another culture (Christianity) that while good in theory is
always taken to extremes by its fanatics. What would you reccomend we
do by the way? Illegalize horrorcore? Condemn rappers to death? Typical
christian solution.
Anonymous said...
^ didn't the letter compare "horrorcore" rap music to militant islam? you
rap fans are illiterate.
September 24, 2009 10:11 AM
Anonymous said...
Sickdicklicker is to busy coming up with the next half of his shitty rap to
post on a blog, Or maybe he's waiting to find out if razakel is really a
man. Either way if your not planning another murder I think the general
public just doesn't give a sh!t.
September 24, 2009 10:17 AM
Anonymous said...
all the shit talkers create their own doom. god is a fucking lie and xtians
are sheep
September 24, 2009 11:40 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Interesting how the websites are being shut down.. as the FBI get what
they need and follow the links from beginning to end. Yes, there will be
more arrests.
Anonymous said...
FUCK YOU ALL.
We R A Family, We're Nothing Like No Pussy Ass Satanic Cult.
SKR Along With The Ramining REAL Horrorcore Family, Are Business
People.
Just Like You Fucks Enjoi Ur Bullshit Nigger Rap, Ur Fucking Lovey
Dovey CUNTry Shit, Rock, Metal, Whutever Itiz U Pigs Lissen 2,
Horrorcore Is OUR Choice.
Anonymous said...
Ok all i have to say is its a free country and we all have our right to our
own opinions! so saying that you do have the right to talk a load of shit
about who ever you want to....
now i can see were you would take SKR as a horrible thing...(in my
opinion its not that great of musik) but it is ent. weather it makes people
go insane and kill or waether it makes kids go to church ppl buy and artsit
and producer and labels ect. make money! we all have to eat...now you
shouldnt go wasting your time typin up a blog about a "record label" you
should write one about world peace and your push for it why waste you
time give a near no name unground label promotion you should be pushin
for peace by doing this there just gonna get a load a publicity now i
understand your concern about sam and the tragic murders..But! mars was
on abq news a few nights ago explaining WE ENTERTAINERS!!!!! YES
ITS ABOUT MURDER DEATH AND RAPE BUT ITS WHAT A
FAIRLY LARGE GROUP OF PPL WANT TO HERE...we are all in a
free country dude....your fucking preist are touching little boys....AND
STRIGHT UP FUCK YOU FOR LABELING RAP AS A HOMICIDLE
MUSIC!!!! yes it has ins bad side...but you dont listen to the good side!
listen to black eyed peas "weres the love" theres alot more....you stupid
fucks waste your time hating sicktanick is not gonna stop what he does
nor all the arist doing what hes doing look at the juggalo family icp
brought kids who were picked on, put down and never could fit a place
they could call were they belong....delete this stupid blog and write one
about world peace all you do is cause more drama.......
Kyle said...
its funny how all of the people runnin their mouths on here gotta hide
behind an anonymous name. if your gonna talk atleast do it it pride. an not
in self shame.. ignorant fucks
September 25, 2009 3:01 AM
im tired of hearing this its just music bullshit, and we all know it
influences behavior in some people
September 25, 2009 3:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Half of you can't even fucking spell. Is that hte main thing SKR artists and
fans have in common? Illiteracy?
September 25, 2009 5:55 AM
ALBACRAZEY said...
OK!!!!!!!
WHOEVER WROTE THIS IS A FUCKIN GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
"What about the christians that have barbarically murdered and butchered
people throughout history? What about when christians burned witches at
the stake? What about the catholic churches stance of neutrality during
wwII? What makes this any different?I can guarantee you beyond all
doubt that more murders have been carried out in the name of God then
will ever be perpetrated by a horrorcore fan or rapper. This is an extremely
stupid letter. Get off your soap box and realize that you are no different.
Just a fan of another culture (Christianity) that while good in theory is
always taken to extremes by its fanatics. What would you reccomend we
do by the way? Illegalize horrorcore? Condemn rappers to death? Typical
christian solution."
September 25, 2009 5:58 AM
BLOODLUST said...
FIRST OFF I DONT HAVE TO HIDE BEHIND ANYTHING UNLIKE
YOU WEAK LITTLE COWARDS THAT SPEAK BIG BAD WORDS
ABOUT SKR WHICH YOU NO NOTHING ABOUT!I REFUSE TO
DEBATE WITH YOU OVER RELIGIOUS ISSUES DONT COME AT
ME WITH YOUR CHRISTIAN GOD FAIRYTAILS OR EVIL SATAN
MYTHS!WHAT AMAZES ME IS AWEEK AGO NONE OF YOU HAD
ANYTHING TO SAY IM WILLING TO BET YOU NEVER EVEN
HEARD OF US TILL THE MEDIA PICKED UP ON IT! NOW YOU
CLAIM TO NO US BETTER THEN OURSELFS...FUCK YOU'VE
BLAMED US FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY BAD THING THAT HAS
TAKEN PLACE IN HISTORY...GET A FUCKIN LIFE!YOU HAVE SO
MUCH INFO ABOUT SKR AND ITS INNER WORKINGS IM A
MEMBER OF SKR AND IVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THE
BULLSHIT YOU SPEAK OF.
I WILL SAY THIS YOU ALL SEEM TO HAVE ALL THE INFO
ABOUT THE HOWS AND WHYS OF THE MURDER OF MY
FRIENDS WHY DIDNT YOU COME FORTH ABOUT THIS TERRIBE
TERROIST SATANIC CULT OF KRAZED KILLERS BEFORE MY
FRIENDS WERE MURDERED...WHY BECAUSE YOU NEVER
EVEN HEARD OF OF US...FUCK OFF!
September 25, 2009 6:22 AM
Anonymous said...
..really..? WOW... Some One Has NO life...how fucking sad.. but hey..at
least we have good muzik 2 listen 2! LOL!!!!!!
XxRedruMxX said...
you know....sick and raz may seen like they took part in all this....im pretty
sure they didnt intend for all of this to happen!!! raz and sick were good
people....and serial killin records is not a fucking gang...get your shit
right!!! andy would never want to hurt one of his own fans! ever and i
know that for a fact....i dont associate with them anymore like i use
to....but i know that andy would never wanted anything to happen to those
girls or their family!
September 25, 2009 7:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Hello all stupid motherfuckers that honestly don't know ANYTHING
about horrorcore or our fam brfore you go around TRYING to spread
rumors about how it happened or why look at Sam he did it no one told
him to expecially not sick or raz they loved them we're all family Sam
WAS a good kid i myself have talked to him but he fucked up so fuck him
but don't connect horrorcore to terrorism how ignorant can you be? You
don't know their families you're not the one they has to watch their
families break down so don't say you feel sorry for them if you want to
bash them and their choices so fuck every single last one of you that
wanna say you're christian but you're gonna judge their lives?! it makes
me sick you CAN'T even get to know any one of us you don't want to
which is fine we don't judge people like you hypocritical christians so
fuck off!!!
September 25, 2009 9:33 AM
Dusty said...
How about all of you stupid fucks get your head on straight. Razakel
NOR Sicktanick NOR anyone from SKR told Sam to kill these girls. I
personally knew both the teenage girls, & Sam. And when I met Sam, he
was one of the nicest people I had ever met. Sam is 20 years old, &
PERFECTLY capable of making his OWN decisions. All you stupid
fucks who think otherwise are just closed minded. SKR, nor any of there
followers are in a fucking gang, or a cult. I personally used to be an
Unholy Apostle. Sicktanick & Razakel would NEVER tell anyone to kill
people. The shit they rap about, they would NEVER do. I stand behind
Sicktanick, I stand behind Razakel, & I stand behind SKR as a whole.
NONE of us condone what Sam did. The actions he performed were
WRONG. But HE made the decision. Period. All you stupid fucks want is
someone to pin the blame on. Would you blame Steven King if someone
performed the actions he writes about? NO. Or would you blame Hitler if
someone carried out the actions today that he did? NO. You are all close
minded assholes. Grow up & get a fucking life.
September 25, 2009 9:58 AM
Colin said...
COLIN MOTHER FUCKIN ALEXANDER says HorrorCore music FOR
THE WIN bitches!!! Anonymous was right; "It IS our choice to listen" ...
What about the KuKluxKlan you Hypocritical xtian FUCKS! Talkin
about "DONT judge, GOD is perfect, god made ALL man equal" but you
go around bashing blacks or existing? The Sheep are really the inbred
mother fuckers, but that's just the Shepherd's fault, and your own for
followin. Tsk tsk.
absynthminded1 said...
I personally do not believe that violent music, movies, or video games
influence violence in MOST cases, but I do believe that they all can be
deadly in the hands of a person who is predisposed towards committing
violent acts or the easily impressionable.
I'm not for some great witch hunt or condemnation of the "Horrorcore"
genre as a whole, but I do feel that particular elements should be looked
into. Within any subculture lies an even seedier segment of that
subculture.
In the case of Serial Killin' Records, at the very least they used poor
judgement by partying with MINORS (including the suspect and two of
his victims), whether they provided said minors with drugs and alcohol
should be investigated further.
Is it really that far out to suggest that this crime could have some cult like
characteristics that could be traced all the way back to Serial Killin'
Records or that certain aspects could parallel the Manson family?
I know very little about this particular outfit, but I can see that it is
apparently a haven for young impressionable minds, those who chose to
live outside of mainstream society, and especially those who are just
looking for acceptance and love, in a world that has "forsaken" them. They
are upset, disenfranchised, and they turn to "Horrorcore" for the comfort
of knowing that they are not alone in their feelings.
It is these broken misguided souls that can easily be taken advantage of...
much like Charles Manson did with his flock of drugged out sheep...much
like every cult since the dawning of time has preyed on the weak and
vulnerable.
What I do know is that the latest details in this crime involve Satanic and
other symbolism found at the crime scene. If this is the case, I for one
would not be shocked to find the Syko Sam scrolled a big old "SKR" on
the walls of that house in his victim's blood.
Anonymous said...
My music is a form of horrorcore, its gangsta/horrorcore which is the
gore without the devil worship or religion bashin,i have no hate towards
nobody at all,im good at what i do like movie makers make horror movies
or the companies who make violent video games,I do not condone and
support anybody who commited or have anything to do with these
murders....but i do take offense to the media blaiming horrorcore music
ONLY A SMALL PERCENT OF HORRORCORE RAPPERS ARE
INTO SATANISM,they call this kid a horrorcore rapper shinning light on
him like he was a artist,this dude just started recording and he
sucked,never even heard of him and im from hayward which is right next
to castro valley. He was a wannabe,a troubled kid and i think drugs played
a huge part in his rage to drive him to do this. But again nobody knows
the truth yet..
but regardless of how you slice it, there are some very disturbing elements
in the McCroskey case. as far as believing the "slander," regardless of who
posted it on YouTube, that IS Syko Sam and that IS his song and his
lyrics, correct?
not sure why you're trying to defend a sad loser who foreshadowed this
senseless tragedy in his music before it happened. Or defend a genre which
literally has no redeeming value, socially, artistically, or otherwise.
You also want to argue over semantics. maybe McCroskey wasnt shown
taking drugs, but can you say with any certainty he never did them or that
they werent involved in his transformation from quiet kid to serial killer?
look at Melanie Wells' my space and what she lists as her interests.
at the end of the day, while one has to wonder about where the parents
were in all this, it's difficult to not blame the music for the influence it
had on McCroskey. he wasnt a killer before he started making horrorcore,
was he? i have doubts about whether he was ordered to do this, but you
never know...my personal feeling is, he tried to impress the older dudes he
looked up to, who were on some devil-worshiping bullshit. or maybe his
weak mind just snapped.
but tell me this: if it's just escapism, then how could this happen in
reality? would these murders have happened had McCroskey been
listening to the Jonas Brothers? and if its just fantasy, then why is
Sicktanick bragging about his "authentic" Satanic credentials on his blog?
desecrating graves, mock ritual sacrifice, etc...it's all fun and games until
somebody gets hurt, right?
well, now that four people have gotten hurt and another young life has
been ruined, it's time for all y'all to wake the fuck up and realize what you
are doing is terribly wrong before some stupid fool makes the same
mistake. horrorcore is not hip-hop, it's barely even rap, and it is beyond
disturbed.
God said...
Jesus said unto him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one
comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6
September 26, 2009 3:16 AM
Dusty said...
To "What kind of freak sings about raping Christians?!": I will ask you
this asshole: what kind of freak sings about killing cops & raping bitches?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Every fucking black rapper out there sings
about that shit. You're just afraid because horrorcore is out of your
comfort zone. It scares you, & that's why you are pointing the blame at
SKR, & at horrocore in general. I can guarantee Sam would have killed
Emma/parents & Melanie whether or not he would've listened to SKR, or
horrocore at all. "Christians" have slaughtered people throughout time,
but that's not bad is it? Nope. Not to you close minded fucks. Why?
Because they did it in the name of God?! Give me a fucking break. In that
case, you shouldn't crucify Sam. He said Jesus told him to do it. How
about that. You are fucking pathetic. I find it funny how all of you fucks
can sit here & point he finger at SKR, their fans, their Apostles, & the
entire horrocore genre in our time of loss & mourning. Let me ask you
something. How would you feel if not one, but TWO of your closest
friends died & people blamed YOU for their deaths, or blamed the music
you listened to?!?! People are always saying they will die for Jesus. Well,
when one of your friends or family members passes, I do wish the worst
on you. I hope people point the finger at you. I hope people point their
finger at the music you listen to. But no, that won't happen,because you
don't go against the flow. You go with what the world wants, so people
aren't afraid of you. Well boo fucking hoo that we don't have the same
taste in music. EVERYONE has different tastes in musick, & you
shouldn't fucking crucify us for ours. Fuck you, & anyone who even
THINKS like you.
September 26, 2009 7:03 AM
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Anonymous said...
When Tragedy occurs what should matter is the tragedy itself. Not what
music the individuals chose to listen too. That is a right all Americans
have and Fuck You if you think that should be taken away. Things have
been taken outta porportion and the idiocy of the general public is
showing how much "Caring" is in their flawed religon.
Anonymous said...
^
SkePtik,
EARTH,
September 27, 2009 12:33 AM
absynthminded1 said...
A new report claims that when cops initially showed up when McCroskey
reported "noises" in the basement, the basement was covered in animal
feces... which is known element of Satanic ritual.
September 27, 2009 10:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt1chB869A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt1chB869A
CHRISTIANS BEWARE!
SkePtiK said...
OK Earth,
Anonymous said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt1chB869A
SkePtiK said...
Anonymous so with your blanket statement, "TERRORIST
PROPAGANDA. THERE IS YOUR PROOF!" This is the same
arguement that has been made against Hip Hop and Heavy Metal
throughout the decades. This is just a new outlet for that behaviour.
Violent lyrics do not cause someone to kill. It can help actually remove a
lot of stress and pent up aggression but you would not know anything
about that. You just see something weird and decide you hate it for that
fact alone. Also I have never condoned what this young man allegedly did.
I have lost too many people in my personal life to wish any kind of death
to a person.
September 27, 2009 8:08 PM
Anonymous said...
I hope sams BOOTY HOLE gets ripped open in jail! horrorcore rappers
and fanatics are trash and are discusting human beings. Wait no, they arent
human beings! How could you freaks even listen to that music after
knowing that your so called good friends were murdered brutally! I hope
you think of those girls and the pain they sufferd when you listen to your
nasty music! you call it art..... jump into a lake...you talk about how us
christians or even normal people do what is not against the flow? idiots
thats how a society works!! You guys were all made fun of your whole
life and you create this music to scare people for retalliation! YOur
parents must be proud! oh wait you probably dont have parents! thats why
your so messed up in the head!! Thank you to whoever wrote this! love it!!
September 27, 2009 11:22 PM
LOLO said...
MAN...THIS HORRIBLE CRIME HAS BROUGHT SO MUCH HATE
OUT ALL ALL SIDES OF THIS DEBATE...LOOK IM A RAP
ARTIST/HARDCORE/GANGSTA/HORRORCORE WHAT EVER THE
FUCK YOU WANNA LABEL IT,GREW UP POOR IN THE GHETTO
LIFE WAS HARD BUT I DIDNT GET PICKED ON OR GROW TO
HATE ANY TYPE OF PERSON..MUZIC BECAME SOMETHING I
LOVE TO DO...HORRORCORE BECAME MY FAVORITE CUZ I
GOT SICK WORD PLAY SKILLS AND THE SICKEST SKILLS ON
THE SICKEST BEATS IS ENTERTAINMENT TO ME..MY FOLKZ IN
MY CIRCLE WHO SPIT HEAT WITH ME ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE
WE WORK HARD OWN HOMES AND HAVE FAMILYS AND TO
READ WHAT "Anonymous" SAYS ABOUT HORRORCORE
RAPPERS..I DONT DO MUSIC TO SCARE PEOPLE FOR
RETALLIATION WTF? THE ANGER YOU SHOW AND CHILDISH
REMARKS ABOUT A KIND OF MUSIC YOU REALLY DONT
KNOW SHIT ABOUT MAKES U LOOK LIKE THE UGLY PERSON
WHOS "MESSED UP" IN THE HEAD..IF SAM COMMITED THESE
MURDERS THEN FUCK HIM AND IF ANYBODY ELSE IS FOUND
GUILTY OF BEING A PART OF THIS HORRIBLE CRIME TO THESE
INNOCENT PEOPLE THE FUCK THEM TOO!! BUT WHY POINT
THE FINGER AT FOLKS WHO ARE FANS OR ARTIST OF ANY
TYPE OF MUSIC WHEN WE REALLY DONT KNOW YET??THESE
KIDS TODAY LOVE TO RUN TO THE MOVIES AND WATCH ALL
THESE GORY ASS FLIX AND SIT AT HOME AND PLAY VIOLENT
AND GORY VIDEO GAMES AND YOU AINT BITCHIN ABOUT
THAT??SHIT EVEN THE SOUTHPARK CARTOON GO HARD!
VIOLENCE IS EVERYWHERE ANYWHERE YOU TURN..READ
THE NEWS PAPER AND ITS FULL OF VIOLENCE..IM GLAD
MUZIC IS A HUGE PART OF ME AND IT KEEPS MY HEAD ON
STRAIGHT,HORRORCORE OR WHAT EVER..YOUR JUST SCARED
OF SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND..IF YOU COULD
ERASE HARDCORE RAP FROM THIS WORLD (itll never happen)
WE WOULD ALL BE STILL LIVING ON A VIOLENT BLOOD
THIRSTY MONEY HUNGRY OVER POPULATED PLANET..I SAY
PRAY FOR THE VICTEMS,PRAY FOR JUSTICE,AND FIND LOVE
WITHIN YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU...AND IMA BOUT
TO GET BACK TO WATCHIN "THE FIRST 48" SOMEBODYS DEAD
IN EVERY EPISODE AND IT NEVER HAS ANYTHING TO DO
WITH MUSIC EITHER...
September 28, 2009 5:02 PM
SkePtiK said...
Anonymous said...
ok you call rapping about death murder and rape a talent? The only reason
why it sets you asside from every one else is that most people have
morals. LoLo you say you have children. If i was your child and grew up
around all the shit that "brings out your talent" I would be so fucked up in
the head. I have taken many psychology and criminology courses and
forensic science is my talent! I do it not becuase im sick and twisted like
you dirty fucks. I do it to better the place we live in, and so our children
can grow up and be in a safe environment. Scary movies with gore are
entertainment, and we know they are fake..but when you rap about murder
and rape and killing christians, and how you have great hate for gods
children..you are demented and how can one not think you are
serious.Poor you for grwoing up poor. try coming from the bronx and
then tell me about being poor and in the ghetto. dumb ignorant fool
September 29, 2009 1:02 PM
LOLO said...
I never said I rap about rape or bash any religon or gods children or killing
christians,never said I was defending ANYBODY,because this kid killed
these people It shed the wrong kind of light on horrorcore,you said
youself horror movies is entertainment and to ME rapping about whats in
horormovies is just as fake as the movies,lol what the hell are you afraid
of? I dont expect YOU to like my music just like you should expect that I
dont believe your pathetic lie about YOU takin courses in forensic
science,psychology lmfao!!! you wanna bring up my kids but you know
nothing about who i am and the type of father i am ,and by the way the
bronx isnt no different than oakland brah,Im just speaking out about the
music I do and how the media shouldnt blame music for what this kid
did,'anonymous' is so quick to capitalize the word BOOTYHOLE and call
me dumb ignorant fool? you have sick ways I can tell..I think you really
feel stupid for writing this stupid blog in the first place,pointing fingers
waaay to early,your not making any points worth reading just dispaying
hate ...god help YOU
September 30, 2009 2:56 AM
Anonymous said...
Do they believe that satan is real?
September 30, 2009 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Do you really believe that it is a fake entity that you are singing praises
too? satan and demons are just a figment of somebody's imagination and
it is just entertainment. The voices that were in Sam's head.... they were
just a fairy tale from a twisted young man? When you praise satan do you
feel his power coursing through your veins? Do you know that he hates
you as much as you hate Christians? Yes, throughout the years he has
used people to kill, steal and destroy. It is his job. Has he used Christians?
Yes. Some of the examples are mentioned above. Is he using you? One
day your allegiance is also going to be called into question. How far will
you go for your god? I know that I would give my life for my God. He is
very important to me. All I ask is that you question what the truth is. If
Satan is for real….. Are you really willing to do what he is going to
expect you to do? For some of you it is a game for others you know that
it is for real. Be careful and remember there is one that is more powerful
and he is one whisper away.
September 30, 2009 7:59 AM
-JC
September 30, 2009 8:17 AM
Anonymous said...
Alot of people said "christians kill too" that doesnt make what happend in
my small town ok!!! My daughter, who really liked Emma by the way, has
to now learn something I never wanted her to know about. We are the
ones who have to drive by the house and our little town will never be the
same. Its not about blame. We need to stop blaming this or that and just
fix the problem. We should all be talking about how to stop this from
happening again and not spending so much time on blaming other people.
We as a nation need to take responsibilty for what these kids must be
going through to be so cold. We have made them that way so if you want
to blame someone or something maybe you should look a little closer at
yourself.
September 30, 2009 10:42 AM
Anonymous said...
Im 16 and i do horror core rap,to me its like jason and michael meyers
movies on cds.Im not a violent person and i hope to write and make
horror films in the future as a career.I never heard of horrorcore satanism
music till I learned about the farmville killings,its sad and my heart goes
out to the victims and theyre familys.And to the people who think
horrorcore rappers are bad people you are wrong,the wutang clan started
horrorcore not these stupid satanism cults.
Jason said...
I personally think all of this has gone too far. I am a Christian and
chaplain candidate in the U.S. Army. To be honest with everyone here I
fear no one, but God. As the music might be distasteful to me, I believe
this to be an isolated incident. If it were not the case then are we not
hearing about this thing daily? The media loves picking up a story and
carrying it as far as it can go. Believe it or not I love all people including
those who rap about killing Christians. Matthew 5:38 – 48:
38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[g]
39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on
the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue
you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone
forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who
asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from
you. 43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate
your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those
who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He
causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the
righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what
reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if
you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do
not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father
is perfect.
I tend to practice what I preach and most “horror core” rappers (I’m sure
they feel the same way about Christians) are misguided. A pure example is
the posting above that refers to “Judge not least ye be judged” Matthew
7:1, but they take it out of context. The Bible says “Do not judge, or you
too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be
judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
you.” (Basically we will be judge in the same measure we judge others). If
anything the Bible tells us to judge righteously.
Anonymous said...
LOLO said...
FINALLY,Now the last 6 comments posted were all worth reading,makes
me think..why do I keep coming back to this blog? I know im not here to
argue or point the finger at anybody,maybe im searching for anwsers
within myself,I know we cant fight hate and anger with hate and anger....
September 30, 2009 7:56 PM
jason said...
LOLO,
I agree that people on here and around the world miss the point about
many things, but the best thing anyone can do is look at all sides of the
issue. Why does horror core make so many references about killing? What
is the point of killing anyone? (I know you said you don’t, but many in the
field do) Both my wife and I have been on active duty tours and I can tell
you seeing people killed, hollering, screaming for their lives is no joke.
I’ve seen many people take their last breathes and pass on. People come
into the military hospital with their faces burnt, leg missing, shrapnel
injuries. I find that many do not understand the Christian way of life (even
some who profess to be Christians). The Christian church might have had
its bad moments (over 400 – 500 years ago+), but so has every other
religion. Stalin (who was an atheist) killed over 2 million people and
communist (atheistic) countries over the last century has killed tens of
millions of people. It’s not religion that kills people; its people that do.
I grew up poor as well. All my “friends” were aspiring rappers and rapped
about anything and everything. I liked their music and it’s all we would do
every day, but one day something was weighing heavy on my heart and not
long afterward I accepted Jesus into my life. REGARDLESS of what
anyone tells you, not one Christian is perfect. We all fall short of the glory
of God. All Christians sin or have sinned and probably will sin again
before they pass on. We are all human. The difference between our
religion and other religions is that you are not saved by works, but by
faith. Most other religions you have to work, do well according to so and
so, or kill the infidel (those who will not convert) to make it to
heaven/nirvana/or whatever place that religion believes. In Christianity
there is only one thing and that is believing in Jesus as lord and accepting
him into your heart. Many look at the old testament of the Bible (the law)
and it scares them away, but when Jesus died for everyone (lost and saved)
we were under a new covenant/new testament known as the age of grace. I
realized that rapping, drinking, and partying was not the life for me, I
became a new creature; all things are passed away behold all things are
new (2 Corinthians 5:17).
Many will say God isn’t real, Jesus was some lunatic, but I cannot
describe to you the many miracles I have seen in the field I am in. God has
done extraordinary things in my life I never thought possible as he can in
anyone else’s. I personally do not think anyone is bad. I do think there are
people out there lost and going to Hell, but I know that God gives
everyone the opportunity to be saved. If you have any questions you or
anyone else can write me anytime: daJwy4life01@yahoo.com
John 15:12 – 17
12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater
love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You
are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants,
because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have
called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have
made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and
appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then the Father
will give you whatever you ask in my name. 17This is my command: Love
each other.
October 1, 2009 7:41 AM
Teresa said...
Jason, that is so awesome that you would tell the truth and you have a gift
in writing. I also am a Christian. I do not usually write online about
anything because it seems useless. I also believe that you need to live who
you say that you are. What good am I if I say that I am a Christian and I
harbor hate in my heart? I can’t help anybody like that. Do I make
mistakes? Oh Yeah!!! I am not perfect by no means. In November, I
watched my brother take his last breathe. He was 42 years old. It broke my
heart and nothing about it was funny. I can’t imagine myself or any other
person taking pleasure in killing another human…. I believe it is against
our nature. I also believe that we try to make problems have human form
so that we can fix it. Some things are not human and we can’t fix it. We
are in a fight. That fight is not with Sam.... He is a child. A vessel that has
been used. Guess what....we can all be used...Christian or Not. Eph 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high places. Know your enemy. It’s not the
Christian or any other person. The enemy is satan and demons. They are
very real. “This reminds us that the true nature of the fight is spiritual, not
carnal and our enemies are spirits and not other people! When you are in a
battle that involves other people, bind the spirits and pray for the other
people.”
October 1, 2009 12:07 PM
Jason said...
Teresa,
Thanks for the comment. I know there is a battle being waged for our
souls. I cannot say why Sam or anyone would do something such as what
happened because I sincerely do not know. I do; however, know that who
we hang out with and look up to does influence us (Sociologist call these
reference groups). God knows this and that’s why we see in the bible such
verses as 2 Corinthians 6:14. I try not to preach to people, but instead to
encourage them. I want everyone to know that with God nothing is
impossible. The people that know me say I’m always happy, but inside I’m
sad a lot. Not because of anything happening to me, but because there are
so many people in the world bullied, belittled, lonely, and hopeless. Many
people get angry with God for the way the world is, but it is us via lust of
the flesh and free will that do these things. In today’s humanist world it’s
all about self-help, self-esteem, and self-awareness. We as a world are too
focused on ourselves and less focused on our neighbors. On some real
stuff I want everyone to know that no matter what problems you face, no
matter what comes your way, no matter how down you might be, God has
a plan for you. Christianity is not about being weak minded, it’s not about
taking a blind leap of faith, it’s about having a relationship with a loving
God who will supply all your needs. I am happy for you Teresa because
you not only are my neighbor, but you are my sister in Christ. I encourage
everyone that reads this that is sad, lonely, helpless, hopeless, or lost to
seek God. Luke 11:10 says “every one that asketh receiveth; and he that
seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.” I am always
here also and I don’t care who hit’s me up via email:
daJwy4life01@yahoo.com
I’ll be praying for you all.
Matthew 11:28-30
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give
you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and
lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is
easy, and my burden is light.
CFK said...
Jason
I like a lot of what you wrote in your first couple of responses. You were
tolerent and open minded, two qualities that more human beings could
use. You express your faith but don't damn others. For me my head says
atheist and my heart says agnostic. So I was intigued by your writings as a
lot of Christians I know are very close minded and generally mean spirited
about other people who's lifestyles they don't agree with. The extreme gay
bashing really comes to mind. Along with the fact that Mitt Romey could
have made a fine president but the evangelical right would never accept a
Morman man running the country. To me it doesn't matter because
Joeseph Smiths first vision is no more absurd than any passage in the
Bible or Koran. In my mind none of them can be proven so it boggles my
mind there is so much hatred of people for believing in a different god.
This includes the hatred and fear of Laveyan Satanist who as near as I can
tell are the ultimate narciccist and only worship themselves. So after all
this rambling my original point was a staement you made in your last
comment. God has a plan for evryone. That is probably for me my single
least favorite thing about Christianity. Why do so many Christians let
responsibilty for themselves fall into the hands of another. It drives me
nuts when things go wrong due to someone screwing uo and they say
"God has a plan for me" It just takes away all responsibilty from the
individual and to me is a staement of weakness. I guess you could argue
that your faith is so strong that you know evrything will be ok because
"God had a plan for me" Did God have a plan for these murder victims? I
can't imagine his plan for the Neiderbrock family was always that they
would be murdered by some sick bastard in their own home. They let this
kid in their home and he killed them. Nobody planned on that happening
except maybe Sam. So anyway if you are still reading like I said I think
you are a great person and you wrote some really nice sentiments, I was
just wondering on your whole God has a plan thoughts?
October 1, 2009 7:41 PM
Nihilist said...
SUCK MY ****
October 1, 2009 8:19 PM
Jason said...
CFK,
Putting your trust in God is not a weak thing. We will all be accountable
for what we do. The bible mentions it many times; Matthew 12:36 (But I
say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give
account thereof in the day of judgment.) and Ecclesiastics 12:14 are two
right off the top of my head. I don’t think I’m necessarily more tolerant
and open minded, but rather I am truly saved (which is key). Matthew
7:21-23 lets us know that not all who profess to be Christians will make
it to heaven.
Now I will go into your question. When something bad happens I know I
will be okay because God said he will provide all your needs according to
his riches in Christ Jesus. I’m not trying to pass off responsibility or not
be held accountable. If anything we will be accountable for everything we
say and everything we do (for Christians this is everything you do after
you are saved). God; however, does have a plan and purpose for each and
every one of us. Wither we follow it or not is or own choice. Epheisians
1:11 states: 11In him we were also chosen,[e] having been predestined
according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity
with the purpose of his will.
The main point’s- God has a plan/will; God knew us before we were born,
and God knows everything we will do, everything we will say, and knew
how many days we will live before you or I were born. Even though God
knows what we will do in advance he still gives us the free will to choose.
In Christ,
Jason
October 1, 2009 9:59 PM
Jason said...
Nihilist,
Why are you so upset at Christians and were does telling people to suck
your **** get you in life? Does it make you feel good or warm and fuzzy
inside to put others down? You say we are clueless, but you do not drop
the slightest hint of what you are referring to (which leaves me clueless to
what you are talking about). I would like to understand where you are
coming from :-) .
October 1, 2009 10:08 PM
NIHILOSER said...
PHEONIZ
October 2, 2009 2:49 PM
Hey NIHILOSER,
HORRORCORE RAPPERS COME IN MANY RACES YA
DUMBFUKK,WHITETRASH SATANIST HORRORCORE ARE JUST
THE SHITWIPES OF THE BUNCH,IM NOT BLACK NOR WHITE
NOR HORRORCORE,I DONT EVEN RAP IM JUST A CONCERNED
AMERICAN,ONLY COWARDS LIKE YOUR RASIST ASS WOULD
WASTE YOUR USELESS LIFE TALKING SHIT ON A COMPUTER
LOL!!I BELIEVE IN LOVE NOT HATE,LIFE NOT DEATH,THERES
NO WAY ID EVER WANT TA KILL ANYBODY,BUT I WOULDNT
MIND KNOCKING A RASIST COWARD LIKE YOU FLAT ON HIS
ASS! LMFAO!!!
cfk87 said...
If God knows everything we will do in advance then we do not have the
free will to choose. He has predetermined our destiny and we are just
carrying out the masterplan. I say no way to that. Stand up for the choices
you make, good or bad. Learn from the bad and revel in the good, but
know you made those choices. And to the point that Sam can be saved.
Bullshit. He murdered four innocent people and just by saying he takes
Christ as his savior does not undo what he did. That is an easy way out.
Sorry to say but his life is fucked forever. Just ask the family members of
the dead if accepting Jesus Christ as his savior makes everything ok?
October 2, 2009 8:32 PM
Jason said...
CFK,
We do have free will. I think I might not have explained it correctly. God
might know everything we will do in advance, but he allows us to make
our choices. Just because he knows what we will do doesn’t mean we
didn’t make the choice and it doesn’t mean we won’t be held accountable
at judgment.
Also, God is an awesome God. There is no sin to big that God cannot
forgive. If God can forgive a liar, a fornicator, a thief, and millions of
people then why can he not forgive a murderer? If Sam truly gets saved
(which is not just “saying Christ is his savior”) then ALL sin in his past
will be forgiven and he will enter the kingdom of God. That’s not my
opinion; that’s Biblical. No one on this earth has the say on wither he will
be saved; that is between Sam and God.
Colossians 3:12-15
12Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe
yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.
13Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have
against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14And over all
these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
October 3, 2009 7:47 AM
SkePtiK said...
I just want to say that I have mad respect for this cat Jason. You wrote
some things that had me thinking. Personally I am atheist I beleive in
myself and science. I was turned away from religon because of the
blantant fakeness that I say every day from "christians". LOLO props
homie on your posts too. LOLO I don't know if you already go but you
should join up at Juggalonews. I work on the staff there and it is a pretty
open minded place.
October 3, 2009 7:15 PM
LOLO said...
SkePtiK
Thanx,we ride in tha same boat as far as being a believer in SCIENCE,so
many different religons and beliefs on who GOD is,I was never exposed
to just one and never followed any and rarely have ive been in a church.I
dont hate or look down on anybodys beliefs..to each his own,I believe in
myself and know im a good person and sorround myself with good people
and family,ive done music all my life,my main thing is lyrical word
play,tung twistin with a HORRORCORE eliment to it.I dont expect
everybody to like my music but the people who do, love it....am I atheist?I
dont know but I believe my vision of who/what GOD is different from
everybodys,I believe LOVE is god and its in us ALL,I dont believe in
satan but I do believe evil exsist..is there really a HEAVEN or HELL?
Untill somebody comes back from DEATH and let us know what either
place was like im gonna have to say NO,IM NOT TRYING TO OFFEND
ANYBODY AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR EVERYBODYS
BELIEFS...and im not trying to be sarcastic but science proves in ways
that MAN evolved from apes...does that mean that ADAM & EVE were
monkeys?? IM JUST ASKIN PEOPLE..lol..
I too have respct for JASON and what he has to say..but i also agree with
CFK87..SAM has to pay for what hes done and hes already living in his
own HELL...
Jason said...
LOLO and Skeptik,
Hey! Thanks for the props, but really I’m just here to spread the truth. I’m
glad you guys believe in science because it means I have common ground
with both of you. I too use to not believe in God, I too use to believe in
science, and I too use to not hate my church and Christianity because of
the way other Christians were. Science is a great area because I’m getting
my Masters degree in apologetics :-)
Science
Just under 4 months ago I was in a discussion room like this, but for
school. The subject of evolution came up and my history teacher (who
was agnostic) told everyone evolution was a “fact”. I myself do not
believe in evolution and from there the debate began. Scientist can prove
microevolution, but not macroevolution which many people get
confused. There are many problems wrong with evolution. There are
many fundamental things scientist cannot answer. “How did non-living
matter become living matter,” for instance is one. Secondly no scientist
has ever saw, found a way, or have knowledge of anything adding or
deleting chromosomes to their DNA for the evolution process to actually
work like they say. RNA, DNA, and the like do not just come together and
start forming cells. This is why I classify evolution as a belief. I can go
deeper into details (depending on the level of knowledge you guys have
about the subject), but for time sake I’ll cut to this chase. By the end of
our class I had completely changed the mind of my professor. Regardless
of how many or who believes evolution doesn’t make it true. There are
still hundreds of flaws off the top of my head I could say about evolution.
I left two links for you guys because I believe it is good to know all sides.
I studied evolution and science (as I think Christians should), but I also
like to let others know our side too.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/the-lie/chapter2.asp
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/hasnt-evolution-been-
proven
Christians
LOLO there was someone who came back from the dead. His name was
Jesus Christ. I understand what you are saying completely as well as
Skeptik; however, I wouldn’t base religion off of what other people do.
I’ve studied Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam because I think it’s
important to have some knowledge of what others believe. There are
many different beliefs in Christianity because people do not read the Bible
correctly, as I mentioned in an earlier post. God is not the author of
confusion. I am the way I am because I follow the Bible, not other people.
People are imperfect and people make mistakes. Real talk, if I never talk
to you guys again just remember God loves you all. No sin is too big for
God not to forgive; not even Sam’s. If any of you knew my life story
you’d be amazed, but remember God take’s us all just the way we are. I’m
not asking or demanding any of you to think the way I do, but one day
when you come to that intersection and feel alone, feel abandon, or feel
hurt just remember God has always loved you, God can take your life and
turn it around (like mine) and do the most remarkable things with it.
Revelation 21: 3 -4
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of
God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his
people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4And God
shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the
former things are passed away.
October 4, 2009 7:31 AM
i am sick!
i am wicked!
i will make u all my victems!
i am hate!
i am vicoise!
i will kill all cristians!
i am life!
i am death!
i will steal ur holy breath!
i am satan!
i am evil!
i will kill gods people!!!!
so catchey!
[{(*~Dances~*)}]
:D
Anonymous said...
Well jesus did tell him to do it, i like how they take the shittiest
horrorcore rappers and say this is horrorcore rap. I listen to OTHER
groups and havnt heard kill all christians or any thing about rape out of
1000 songs. they just focus on these wanna be SKR rappers who suck
dick anyway, wanna be bitches.
Taken from the song Follow the Leader by Dark Lotus they obviously
dont appreciate copy cats to there music that give it a bad name. TRUE
HORRORCORE
October 4, 2009 1:44 PM
SNITCHTANICK IS A PUSSY.
October 4, 2009 6:49 PM
Anonymous said...
Is there any more information on the story it self?
October 5, 2009 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...
All I have to say I never heard of horrorcore before today. It's weird, it's
hateful and it sounds stupid. I think it should be illegal and punished as a
hate crime. As a woman I'm outraged. As a human I'm outraged. You guys
are seriously sick. Get help.
Oh and please learn how to spell. "i am vicoise!" That's not even a word
dumb fucks. Maybe if you all hadn't dropped out of highschool cause you
were all outcasts and weirdos and felt hated on you would've actually
learned that killing is wrong and vicoise is actually spelled vicious.
And as an educated person, I'm going to make an educated guess that this
syko sam loser was a "martyr" for these horrorcore losers. No one had
ever heard of you yesterday. No one will remember you tomorrow. Was it
worth it?
October 6, 2009 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm an older dude and as such, I have to see this in a few ways.
I am a Christian but have been other religions over the course of many
years. As a teenager I grew up listening to a lot of music. I am musically
very open minded. I personally hate christian music and find most of it
rather boring. I don't really like Horrorcore or ICP, but love the
Gravediggaz. Which let's face is... is basically the same shit. I know if I
was a teenager and hated the fuckin world I probably would have been
into Horrorcore as well as Death Metal. In fact I know I would have been.
I too hated the world at one point. (still do even now.) I suck as a
Christian.. but thats why I ask God to forgive me. It is simply a matter of
what one chooses to believe. People even if they hate your choice should
have enough respect for one another as people to agree to disagree. Hate
on either side is futile. Respect and understanding will always win in the
end.
Thats the main point of this post... If SKR are this satanic cult and do all
sorts of ill shit.... Then what makes their right to practice the religion of
their choice any less important than your right to be a Christian?
The people who are attacking SKR may or may not have a point.
I don't know them and don't claim to.
If you don't like Horrorcore...just don't listen to it or hang out with people
who do. If "sicktanic" is a bad guy... eventually that will come out. Things
like that tend to come to light when there are 4 dead people involved and a
crime scene so fucked nobody will talk about it. This is America and
people will always think what they think, but it is still innocent until
proven guilty.
I'll finish with this.... " The world is full of idiots, the Church is no
exception."
LOLO said...
Anonymous who wrote "The world is full of idiots,the church is no
exception"
I completely agree with your post,the lady above you displayed hate
towards something she knows nothing about,HORRORCORE.I am a
horrorcore artist but NOT the type of music playing in this blog,this
horrible crime shed light on satanist type rappers and the MEDIA is
calling THAT music HORRORCORE,That upsets me..I am a very open
minded person when it comes to music. Everybodys looking for
something to blame this crime on and its easy to to blame the music,if
SAM was a violent video game player who was known to do nothing but
play video games then everybody would wanna blame violent video
games,let the courts do theyre jobs and end the end we will know the
truth,horrorcore is NO different than horror movies,I personaly think its
more disturbing to actually SEE killings on a motion picture than to listen
to it in a rap or song..and yes i love horror movies too.
but anonymous I just wanted to you props for being open minded and
looking at this subject from all points of views and explaining how you
feel in the realist way with out diplaying HATE anger,racism ..Thats real
talk.
October 6, 2009 10:56 PM
Synn said...
Aight, look. I ken Emma, Mel, and Sam. Yeah, sam was cool, but he
committed a terrible tragedy, and there's no escaping that. I'm a horrorcore
artists, and Itook my turn under the microscope, and had attacks thrown
my way on Myspace and on the street. My lable has been gracious enough
to stand by me, but that's not my issue. My issue uis this: there's a large
gap here, did they ever release why it was committed? whyat Drove Sam
to do ithis? Not to my knowledge. YOu wanaa know some shit? talk to
my homie Rela.
james said...
james said...
by the way I forgot to mention that im gay,I hate horrorcore so much but I
LOVE a BIG sausage in me...love JAMES
October 8, 2009 3:04 AM
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