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M r.
L IE B E L E B .
S o
yo u
w o u ld n \u2019t
b e
a b le
to
id e n tify
th e
r ifle
th a t
th e
b e a rd e d
m an
h a d
w ith
h im
if
I
s h o w e d
yo u
p ic tu re s
o f
a rifle?
M rs.
D A V IS .
N o
; because
lik e
I
s a y ,
a t
th a t
tim e
th e y
w e re
ju s t
g u n s .
M r.
L IE D E I.E R .
If
yo u
d o n \u2019t
h a ve
a n y th in g
e ls e
th a t
yo u
th in k
w o u ld
b e
h e lp fu l
to
u s
a t
th is
p o in t,
I
w ill
th a n k
yo u
fo r
c o m in g
iu
a n d
c o o p e ra tin g
w ith
u s
th e
w ay
yo u
h a ve .
I
w a n t
yo u
to
kn o w
th e
C o m m is s io n
a p p re c ia te s
it
ve ry
m uch.
M rs.
D A V IS .
A ll
rig h t.
T E S T IM O N Y
O F
M A LC O LM
H O W A R D
P R IC E ,
JR .
T h e
te s tim o n y
o f
M a lc o lm
H o w a rd
P ric e ,
J r.,
w as
ta k e n
a t
9 :1 6
a .m .,
o n
A p ril
2 ,
1 9 6 4 ,
in
th e
o fic e
o f
th e
U .S .
a tto rn e y ,
3 0 1
P o s t
O ffire
B u ild in g ,
B rya n
a n d
E rva y
S tre e ts ,
D a lla s ,
T e x .,
b y
M r.
W e s le y
J .
L ie b e le r,
a s s is ta n t
c o u n s e l
o f
th e
P re s id e n t\u2019s
C o m m is s io n .
R o b e rt
T .
D a v is ,
a s s is ta n t
a tto rn e y
g e n e ra l
o f
T e x a s ,
w as
p re s e n t.
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
W o u ld
yo u
ris e ,
s ir,
a n d
ra is e
yo u r
rig h t
h a n d ?
D o
yo u
s o le m n ly
s w e a r
th a t
th e
te s tim o n y
yo u
a re
a b o u t
to
g iv e
w ill
b e
th e
tru th ,
th e
w h o le
tru th ,
a n d
n o th in g
b u t
th e
tru th ,
s o
h e lp
yo u
G od?
M r.
P R IC E .
I
d o .
M r.
L IE B E L F ,R .
M r.
P rid e ,
m y
nam e
is
W e s le y
J .
L ie b e le r.
I
a m
a
m em ber
o f
th e
le g a l
s ta ff
o f
th e
P re s id e n t\u2019s
C o m m is s io n
in v e s tig a tin g
th e
a s s a s s in a tio n
o f
P re s id e n t
K e n n e d y.
I
h a ve
b e e n
a u th o riz e d
to
ta k e
yo u r
te s tim o n y
b y
th e
C o m m is s io n ,
p u rs u a n t
to
a u th o rity
g ra n te d
to
th e
C o m m is s io n
b y
E x e c u tiv e
O rd e r
N o.
1 1 1 3 0 ,
d a te d
N o ve m b e r
2 9 ,
1 9 6 3 ,
a n d
J o in t
R e s o lu tio n
o f
C o n g re s s
N o.
1 3 7 .
I
w a n t
to
g iv e
to
yo u
a
c o p y
o f
th a t
E x e c u tiv e
o rd e r
a n d
o f
th a t
jo in t
re s o lu tio n ,
a s
+ e ll
a s
a
c o p y
o f
th e
ru le s
o f
p ro c e d u re
a d o p te d
b y
th e
C o m m is s io n
g o v e rn in g
th e
ta k in g
o f
te s tim o n y
o f
w itn e s s e s .
W e
w a n t
to
in q u ire
o f
yo u
c o n c e rn in g
th e
p o s s ib ility
th a t
yo u
s a w
L e e
H a rve y
O s w a ld
tit
th e
S p o rts
D ro m e
R ifle
R a n g e ,
8 o o O
W est
D a v is ,
s o m e tim e
in
N o ve m b e r
1 9 6 3 .
B e fo re
w e
g e t
in to
th e
d e ta ils ,
I
w o u ld
lik e
to
h a ve
yo u
s ta te
yo u r
fu ll
nam e
fo r
th e
re c o rd .
M r.
P R IC E .
It
is
M a lc o lm
H o w a rd
P ric e ,
J r.
M r.
L IE B E L E X .
W h e re
d o
yo u
liv e ,
M r.
P ric e ?
M r.
P R IC E .
A t
1 1 2 7
R ic e ,
G ra n d
P ra irie .
M r.
L IE B E I.E R .
W h e I\u2019e
w e re
yo u
b o rn ?
M r.
P R IC E .
I
w as
b o rn
a t
G ra h a m ,
T e x .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
H a ve
yo u
liv e d
a ll
yo u r
life
h e re
in
T e x a s ?
M r.
P R IC E .
N o;
I
h a ve
liv e d
in
O k la h o m a
fo r
4
ye a rs
a n d
in
C a lifo rn ia
fo r
5
y e a rs .
M r.
L IE E Z E L E R .
H ow
lo n g
h a ve
yo u
liv e d
in
D a lla s --th is
la s t
tim e -in
G ra n d
P ra irie ?
M r.
P R IC E .
O h,
a b o u t
1 3
y e a rs .
M r.
L IE B E L E E .
W hen
w e re
yo u
b o rn ?
M r.
P R IC E .
A p ril
6 ,
1 9 2 8 .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
W h e re
a re
yo u
e m p lo y e d ?
M r.
P R IC E .
I
a m
re tire d -I
a m
u n e m p lo y e d .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
I
u n d e rs ta n d
th a t\u2019s
p rim a rily
w e c a u s e
o f
th e
fa c t
th a t
yo u
h a ve
a
h e a rt
c o n d itio n ?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s
; th a t\u2019s
rig h t.
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
A re
yo u
m a rrie d ?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s ;
I
am .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
D o
yo u
h a ve
a n y
c h ild re n ?
M r.
P R IC E .
I
h a ve
fiv e .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
A re
yo u
fa m ilia r
w ith
S p o rts
D ro m e
R ifle
R a n g e ?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s
; veri
fa m ilia r
w ith
it.
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
A s
a
m a tte r
o f
fa c t,
yo u
w o rk
th e re
fro m
tim e
to
tim e ,
d o
yo u
n o t?
M r.
P R IC E .
I
h a ve
h e lp e d
th e m
th e re -I\u2019m
n o t,
a s
yo u
s a y ,
e m p lo y e d ,
b u t
I
3 6 9
d o
h e lp
th e re
fro m
tim e
to
tim e .
T h e y
a re
c lo s e
frie n d s
o f
m in e
a n d
I
h a ve
h e lp e d
th e m
g e t
th e
th in g s
s e t
u p
a n d
g e t
it
s ta rte d .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
A re
yo u
re fe rrin g
to
th e
D a v is e s ?
M r.
P R IC E .
V irg in ia
a n d
F lo y d
D a v is .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
T h e
C o m m is s io n
h a s
in fo rm a tio n
to
th e
e ffe c t
th a t
s o m e tim e
d u rin g
N o ve m b e r
1 9 6 3 ,
yo u
s a w
a
g e n tle m a n
a t
th e
r ifle
ra n g e
w h o m
yo u
s u b -
s e q u e n tly
cam e
to
b e lie v e
w as
L e e
H a rve y
O s w a ld ;
is
th a t
c o rre c t?
M r.
P R IC E .
T h a t\u2019s
rig h t.
T h e
firs t
tim e
th a t
I
s a w
th is
p e rs o n
w as
in
S e p -
te m b e r,
th e
la s t
w e e k -th e
la s t
S a tu rd a y
o f
S e p te m b e r,
a n d
th a t
w as
th e
a fte rn o o n
th a t
th e y
o p e n e d
th e
r ifle
ra n g e .
M r.
L IE F E L E R .
O n
th e
la s t
S a tu rd a y
o f
S e p te m b e r?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
T h a t
w o u ld
b e
S e p te m b e r
2 8 1
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
T e ll
m e
th e
c irc u m s ta n c e s
u n d e r
w h ic h
yo u
firs t
s a w
th is
fe llo w ?
M r.
P R IC E .
W e ll,
it
w as
ju s t
a b o u t
d u sky
d a rk
a n d
h e
cam e
in
in
a n
o ld
m odel
c a r,
I
w o u ld
ju d g e
it
w as
p o s s ib ly
a
1 9 4 0
o r
1 9 4 1
m odel
F o rd .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
W as
th e re
a n yo n e
w ith
h im ?
M r.
P R IC E .
N o;
h e
w as
b y
h im s e lf,
a n d
I
h a ve
h e a rd
th a t
h e
c o u ld n \u2019t
d riv e ,
b u t
h e
w as
d riv in g
th a t
d a y
b e c a u s e
h e
w as
th e
o n ly
o n e
in
th e
c a r,
a n d
h e
cam e
d o w n
a n d
in q u ire d
if
th e re
w as
a n yo n e
th e re
th a t
c o u ld
s e t
a
s c o p e ,
a
te le s c o p e
o n
a
rifle ,
a n d
I
to ld
h im
th a t
I
c o u ld ,
a n d
h e
s a id ,
w e ll-h e
h a d
o n e
th a t
h e
h a d
h a d
m o u n te d
a n d
b o re s ig h te d
b u t
it
h a d n \u2019t
b e e n
fire d
o n
a
ra n g e
a n d
th a t
h e
w o u ld
lik e
to
h a ve
it
s ig h te d
in ,
s o
I
w e n t
d o w n
a n d
s e t
u p
a ta rg e t
o n
a
h u n d re d
y a rd s .
A c tu a lly ,
h e
s e t
th e
ta rg e t
u p
h im s e lf
a n d
I
d ro ve
m y
c a r
a n d
tu rn e d
th e
h e a d lig h ts
o n
o n
th e
ta rg e t
a n d
a s
I
p ro c e e d e d
to
s e t
th e
rifle -1
fire d
th e
r ifle
a p p ro x im a te ly
1 2
to -1 2
to
1 8
tim e s
I
w o u ld
s a y
a n d
ze ro e d
it
in
o n
a
h u n d re d
ya rd s
a n d
M r.
D a v is
cam e
in
fro m
w o rk
b e fo re
w e
le ft
a n d
h e
a ls o
d ro ve
h is
p ic k u p
d o w n
a n d
tu rn e d
h is
lig h ts
o n .
H e
d ro ve
h is
p ic k u p
d o w n
o n
th e
o p p o s ite
s id e
a n d
tu rn e d
h is
lig h ts
o n
th e
ta rg e t.
M r.
L IE L X E L E R .
O n
th e
o p p o s ite
s id e
o f
th e
ta rg e t
fro m
yo u r
c a r?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s ;
a n d
M rs.
D a v is
w e n t
hom e-she
w as
tire d
a n d
w a s n \u2019t
fe e lin g
to o
g o o d
a n d
s h e
w e n t
hom e
a s
s o o n
a s
h e
g o t
d o w n
th e re .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
A s
s o o n
a s
M r.
D a v is
d id ?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
D id
M r.
D a v is
s e e
th is
fe llo w
a t
th a t
tim e ?
M r.
P R IC E .
W e ll,
I
d o n \u2019t
kn o w
w h e th e r
h e
s a w
h im
o r
n o t.
H e
a p p a re n tly
d o n \u2019t
rem em ber
it.
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
Y o u
h a ve
d is c u s s e d
it
w ith
M r.
D a v is ?
M r.
P R IC E .
O h,
w e
h a ve
ta lk e d
a b o u t
it
som e,
b u t
h e
d o e s n \u2019t-h e
d o n \u2019t
e ve n
re c a ll
tu rn in g
h is
h e a d lig h ts
o n .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
N ow ,
d id
th is
m an
fire
th e
r ifle
h im s e lf?
M r.
P R IC E .
H e
fire d
th re e
s h o ts
a fte r
I
h a d
g o t
it
s e t
to
w h e re
I
c o u ld
E re
a
p a tte rn ,
w ith
th re e
s h o ts
in
a
h u ll\u2019s
e ye .
I
tu rn e d
it
o ve r
to
h im
a n d
I
s a id ,
\u201cN o w ,
I\u2019m
s a tis fie d
w ith
it,
yo u
try
it.\u201d
A n d ,
h e
fire d
th re e
s h o ts
a n d
h e
s c o re d
b u ll\u2019s
e ye
w ith
a ll
th re e -a
ve ry
tig h t
p a tte rn
a n d
h e
s a id ,
\u201cW e ll,
I
a m
c o m p le te ly
s a tis fie d .\u201d
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
H ow
m uch
d id
yo u
c h a rg e
h im
fo r
z e ro in g
th e
r ifle
in ?
M r.
P R IC E .
I
d id n \u2019t
c h a rg e
h im
a n y th in g .
I
c h a rg e d
h im
$ 1
fo r
th e
u s e
o f
th e
ra n g e
a n d
th a t
w as
a ll.
I
ju s t
d id
th a t
a s
a
fa v o r
to
F lo y d
to
h e lp
h im
g e t
h is
b u s in e s s
in .
I
fig u re d
th is
w as
ju s t
a n o th e r
h u n te r
w ho
h a d
com e
d o w n
to
g e t
h is
r ifle
ze ro e d
in
fo r
d e e r
s e a s o n .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
D id
yo u
h a ve
a n y
o th e r
ro n v e rs a tio n
w ith
th is
fe llo w
a t
th a t
tim e ?
M r.
P R IC E .
N o.
th a t
w as
a ll.
It
w as
ra th e r
a b ru p t.
H e
d id n \u2019t
ta lk
to o
m uch,
a n d
I
w as
k in d
o f
s u rp ris e d
th a t
h e
d id n \u2019t
E re
th e
r ifle
m o re .
H e
ju s t
E re d
th e
th re e
s h o ts
a n d
h e
s a id ,
\u201cW e ll,
th a t\u2019s
g o o d
e n o u g h ,\u201d
a n d
h e
g o t
u p
a n d
le ft.
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
D id
h e
le a v e
th e
s h e ll
c a s in g s
ly in g
th e re
a t
th e
ra n g e
o r
d id
h e
ta k e
th e m
w ith
h im ?
3 7 0
M r.
P R IC E .
N o,
h e
to o k
th e m
w ith
h in l-h e
p ic k e d
th e m
a ll
u p
a fte r
th e
r ifle
w as
fire d
a n d
to o k
th e
s h e ll
c a s in g s
a lo n g
w ith
h im .
M r.
I~ IE ~ E I,E R .
Y o u
h a d
a n
o l)l)o rtu n ity
to
o b s e rv e
th e
rifle ,
d id
yo u
n o t?
h Ir.
P n rc~ .
Y e s ,
I
h a d
it
in
m y
h a n d .
M r.
L IE R E L E R .
W o u ld
yo u
b e
a b le
to
id e n tify
th e
rifle ?
h lr.
P R IC E .
W e ll,
I
b e lie v e
I
w o u ld -it
w as
a
fo re ig n
m ake
r ifle
a n d
I
w a s n \u2019t
to o
fa m ilia r
w ith
it
a t
th e
tim e .
M r.
L IB E L E R .
D id
yo u
s e e
it
a g a in ?
h Ir.
P R IC E .
O n
tw o
o th e r
o c c a s io n s
th a t
h e
w as
th e re .
M r.
L IE D E L E R .
IIe fo re
w e
g o
o n
to
th a t,
yo u
in d ic a te d
th a t
in
o rd e r
to
s e e
th e
ta rg e t
yo u
h a d
to
tu rn
th e
lig h ts
o f
th e
a u to m o b ile
o n
a n d
th a t
o f
M r.
D a v is \u2019
tru c k
o n ;
is
th a t
rig h t?
h lr.
P R IC E .
Y e s .
M r.
L IE R E L E R .
W as
it
lig h t
u p
a t
th e
r ifle
ra n g e
fro m
w h e re
yo u
fire d ?
M r.
P R IC E .
O h,
y e s ;
w e
h a ve
n e o n
lig h ts
th e re .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
S o
yo u
d id n \u2019t
h a ve
a n y
d iffic u lty
in
s e e in g
th is
fe llo w ?
M r.
P R IC E .
N o -n o
d iffic u lty
a t
a ll.
h Ir.
L IE B E L E K .
T h e n
th is
fe llo w
ju s t
p u t
th e
r ifle
in
th e
c a r
a n d
d ro ve
o ff?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s .
M r.
L IF X E L E R .
D id
h e
h a ve
a gun
c a s e
o r
a n y th in g
lik e
th a t?
h fr.
P R IC E .
W e ll,
if
h e
d id ,
h e
d id n \u2019t
b rin g
it
d o w n
to
th e
firin g
h o u s e .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
H e
d id n \u2019t
h a ve
a n y th in g
h e
w ra p p e d
th e
r ifle
in ?
h lr.
P R IC E .
N ot
th a t
I
kn o w
o f.
In
fa c t,
th e
b e s t
I
re m e m b e r,
w h e n
h e
g o t
o u t
o f
th e
e a r,
h e
ju s t
p ic k e d
th e
g u n
u p
o u t
o f
th e
b a c k
s e a t
b e c a u s e
it
w a s n \u2019t
w ra p p e d
in
a n y th in g
o r
w a s n \u2019t
in
a case.
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
D id
yo u
s e e
th is
fe llo w
a g a in ?
M r.
P R IC E .
O n
tw o
o th e r
o c c a s io n s -o n e
w as
2
w e e ks
la te r
a n d
a t
tu rk e y
s h o o t.
It
w as
S u n d a y,
th o u g h ,
it
w as
o n
a
S u n d a y.
M r.
L I~ R E L E R .
It
w o u ld
h a ve
b e e n
in
O c to b e r
s o m e tim e ,
th e n ,
is
th a t
rig h t?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s ,
it
w o u ld .
h lr.
L IE B E L E R .
T h e
la s t
S a tu rd a y
in
S e p te m b e r,
w h ic h
is
th e
d a y
yo u
in d ic a te d
w as
th e
firs t
tim e
yo u
s a w
h im
w as
th e
2 8 th
o f
S e p te m b e r?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s
; th a t
w as
th e
d a y
th e y
o p e n e d .
T h e y
o p e n e d
in
th e
a fte rn o o n .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
.\n d
2
w e e ks
la te r
w o u ld
h a ve
b e e n
th e
1 2 th
o f
O c to b e r,
a n d
th e
S u n d a y
fo llo w in g
w o u ld
b e
th e
1 3 th
o f
O c to b e r;
is
th a t
rig h t?
M r.
P R IC E .
Y e s ,
so m e w h e re
a ro u n d
th e re .
T h e y
h a d
a
tu rk e y
s h o o t
a n d
I
w e n t
d o w n
to
p a rtic ip a te
in
a
tu rk e y
s h o o t
a n d
h e
w as
s ittin g
in
B o o th
6
o r
8
a n d
w as
firin g
o n
a
lo o -y a rd
lin e
w ith
a
h e a vy
b o re
r ifle
a n d
I
d id n \u2019t
ta lk
to
h im
th e n ,
b u t
th e
th ird
tim e
th a t
I
s a w
h im
th e re
I
d id .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
D id
yo u
s e e
th is
tim e
in
O c to b e r,
th e
d a y
o f
th is
tu rk e y
s h o o t,
d id
yo u
s e e
th a t
h e
h a d
th e
sam e
r ifle
yo u
h a d
o b se rve d ?
R Ir.
P R IC E .
N o,
I
d id n \u2019t
p a y
to o
m uch
a tte n tio n
to
th a t.
I
ju s t
s a w
h im
a s
h e
cam e
b y
a n d
h e
w e n t
o n
d o w n
to
th e
b o o th .
T h e re
a re
p e o p le
th a t
com e
d o w n
th e re
a n d
som e
o f
th e m
h a ve
a s
h ig h
a s
s ix
o r
s e v e n
d iffe re n t
rifle s .
T h is
M r.
S la c k
th a t
yo u
ju s t
ta lk e d
to -1
n o tic e d
h im
in
lja rtic u la r
b e c a u s e
h e
h a d
q u ite
a
v a rie ty
e ve ry
tim e
h e
com e
d o w n
th e re -h e
h a d
th re e
o r
fo u r
rifle s
w ith
h im .
M r.
L IE H E L E R .
T h e re \u2019s
n o th in g
th a t
h a p p e n e d
o n
th is
s e c o n d
tim e
th a t
yo u
s a w
th a t
p a rtic u la rly
s ta n d s
o u t?
h lr.
P R IC E .
W e ll-n o t
th a t
I
kn o w
o f
p e rs o n a lly ,
b u t
I
d o
u n d e rs ta n d
th e re
w as
a
h a s s le
b e tw e e n
h im
a n d
M r.
S la c k
o ve r
s h o o tin g
th e
w ro n g
ta rg e t
o r
s o m e th in g
lik e
th a t.
I
w as
o ve r
o n
th e
o p p o s ite
rn d
s h o o tin g
a t
a
ta rg e t
fo r
th e
tu rk e y
s h o o t
a n d
I
d id n \u2019t
p a y
a n y
a tte n tio n
to
th a t.
T h a t
w as
th e ir
b u s in e s s .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
W ho
to ld
yo u
th a t
th e re
w as
a
h a s s le
b e tw e e n
th is
g u y
a n d
S la c k ?
M r.
P R IC E .
It
w as
h lr.
D a v is
a n d
h Irs .
D a v is .
M r.
L IE B E L E R .
B u t
yo u ,
y o u rs e lf,
d o n \u2019t
rem em ber
a n y th in g
th a t
h a p p e n e d
o n
th is
d a y,
a s
fa r
a s
th is
fe llo w
w as
c o n c e rn e d ?
M r.
P R IC E .
N o.
h fr.
L IE B E L E R .
N a y,
g o in g
b a c k
to
th e
firs t
tim e
yo u
s a w
h im ,
w as
th e re
a n y-
o n e
th e re
a t
th e
r ifle
ra n g e
b e s id e s
th is
m an,
M r.
D a v is
a n d
y o u rs e lf?
M r.
P R IC E .
A t
th e
firs t
tim e
I
s a w
h im -m e
a n d
h lrs .
D a v is
w as
th e
o n ly
o n e
th e re ,
a n d
w e
w e re
ju s t
fix in g
to
c lo s e
u p
a n d
g o
hom e
a n d
h e
cam e
in
a n d ,
lik e
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