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Seminar 3 Psychosis 06

Seminar 3 Psychosis 06

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Psychosis
精神病
 Jacques Lacan
雅克、拉康
 VIII The symbolic sentence
象征的句子
 THE NOTION OF DEFENSE
防卫的观念
 THE PATIENT'S TESTIMONY
病人的证词
 THE SENSE OF REALITY
现实的意义
 VERBAL PHENOMENA
文辞的现象
 We could, all the same, end up making a start on Schreber's text together, because the Schreber case for us is also Schreber's text.
尽管如此,我们可以一起以探讨许瑞伯的文本作为结束,因为对于我们而言,这个许瑞伯的个案也是许瑞伯的文本。
 This year I'm trying to gain a better conception of the economy of the case. You must have some sense of the shift that is slowly taking place in psychoanalytic conceptions. The other day I reminded you that Freud's explanation, briefly put, is that the patient enters an essentially narcissistic economy. This is a very rich idea, all the consequences of which should be drawn out, except nobody ever does, and one forgets what narcissism is at the point in his work Freud has got to when he writes the Schreber case. Consequently, nobody has a clear idea, either, how novel this explanation is, that is, of what other explanation it is to be situated in relation to.
 
 
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今年我正在尝试对这个个案的生命活动获得更佳的观念。你们一定稍微感觉到这个转变,在精神分析的各种观念,慢慢正在发生的转变。前天,我提醒你们,弗洛依德的解释,简短地说,就是病人进入一个基本上是自恋的生命活动。这是非常丰富的观念,它的所有的结果应该被揭示出来,除了从来没有人这样做。我们忘记,当弗洛依德写作许瑞伯的个案时,他在他的著作里到达的时刻,那个自恋是什么。结果,也没有人清楚地知道,这个解释是多么的新奇。也就是说,这个解释被定位在跟其他的解释的关系。
 I shall return to one of the authors who have spoken in the greatest detail about the question of the psychoses, namely, Katan. He emphasizes the notion of defense. But I don't want to proceed by means of commentaries on commentaries. We have to start with the book, as Freud recommends.
我将回到其中一位作者,也就是卡腾,他们曾经钜细弥遗地谈论关于精神病的这个问题。他强调防卫的这个观念。但是我并不想要凭借对于各种评论的评论来进行。依照弗洛依德的建议,我们必须从这本书开始。
 Since we are psychiatrists, or at least people who are in various ways familiar with psychiatry, it's quite natural that to get an idea of what is taking place in this case we should also read with the eyes of psychiatrists.
因为我们是精神病医生,或至少是以各种方式熟悉精神病学的人们。自然而然地,为了理解在这个个案正在发生的事情,我们也应该用精神病医生的眼光来阅读。
 1 We must not forget the stages in the introduction of the notion of narcissism in Freud's thought. The word defense is used today to refer to anything and everything, in the belief that one is repeating something with a long history in Freud's work. It's quite true that the notion of defense plays a role very early on and that from 1894-95 onwards Freud proposes the expression neuropsychoses of defense. But he uses this term in a quite specific sense.
我们一定不要忘记,在弗洛依德的思想当中,他介绍自恋的观念的这几个阶段。「防卫」这个字词今天被使用来指称任何事情与一切事情相信我们正在重复在弗洛依德的著作里某件具有长远历史的东西。
 When he speaks of Abwehrhysterie, he distinguishes it from two other types
 
 
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of hysteria, and this is the first attempt to carry out a properly psychoanalytic nosography. Look at the article I'm alluding to.1 According to Breuer hysterias have to be thought of as a secondary production of hypnoid states, dependent on a certain fertile moment which corresponds to a disturbance of consciousness in the hypnoid state. Freud doesn't deny that there are hypnoid states, he simply says - We are not interested in this, we don't take this to be a differential feature in our nosology.2
当他谈论到
Abwehrhysteri
,他区别它跟其他两种的歇斯底里症。这是第一次尝试要从事合宜的精神分析的分类学。请你们观看我正在提到的那篇文章。依照布鲁尔,歇斯底里症必须被认为是被催眠状态的次级产物,依靠某个丰富的时刻,对应于在催眠的状态,意识受到扰乱的丰富的时刻。弗洛依德并没有否认,会有催眠的状态存在。他仅是说,我们对此并不感到興趣。我们并不将这个当作是我们分类精神病的差异特征。
 102 The symbolic sentence 103 One has to understand what one is doing when one classifies. You begin by counting the number of what appear to be the colored organs of a flower, which are called petals. It's always the same, a flower presents a certain number of units that can be counted - this is a very rudimentary botany. Later, you sometimes notice that the uninformed person's petals are not petals at all, but sepals, which don't have the same function. Likewise, in what concerns us, various registers - anatomical, genetic, embryological, physiological, functional - may enter into consideration and intersect with one another. For the classification to be significant it has to be a natural one. How are we to look for what is natural?
我们必须理解,当我们分类精神病时,我们正在做什么。你们开始计算被称为花瓣的这个数目,从看起来是花的颜色的器官。它总是相同,花呈现某个能够被计算的单位的数目。这是非常初级的生物学。后来,你们有时注意到,没有被告知的这个人的花瓣根本就不是花瓣,而是叶子,它们并没有相同的功能。同样地,在我们所关心的东西里,各色各样的铭记
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解剖的,基因的,胚胎的,生理的,功能的
它们可能会被考虑到,并且互相交会。为了让分类学具有意义,它必须是自然的分类学。我们如何能够寻找属于自然的东西?
 Thus Freud didn't reject hypnoid states, he said he would not take them into account because when he was initially working things out what was

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