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ה מ ש ר ה תיבה ףד|הבתכ חלש|ךלש ןובשחה|רתאב םיאשונ|םיטיהל ץרמ1,2005 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE INTERPRET DREAMS? - Marie-Louise von Franz(הז עטקב םילימ לכה ךס:1986,תוסינכ:163(הספדהל אסרג Marie-Louise von FranzWHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE INTERPRET DREAMS?In her essay, "What Happens When We Interpret Dreams?" von Franz examines thecontents of a man's important dream about the very nature of dream interpretation. Sheemphasizes that "a good interpretation is an event, not a 'doing', " a self-initiatory event fromwhich a growing relation to the large Self can emerge. In other words, the interpretation andunderstanding of a dream can become a form of inner rite of passage. The dream teaches thedreamer to relate to her/his own symbols. They are themselves thresholds to be crossed as thedreamer takes a journey of individuation. This remarkable dream is presented, in part, in a filmseries on dream interpretation with Dr. von Franz by Frazier Boa, Jungian analyst in Toronto.Marie-Louise von-Franz, Ph.D., received her doctorate in classical languages from theUniversity of Zurich and worked closely with Dr. C. G. Jung for 31 years. She was one of thefounders of the Jung Institute in Zurich and is currently a training analyst there. She has lecturedwidely in Europe and North America. She is the author of many well-known books and articles,among which are: An Introduction to the Interpretation of Fairy Tales (1970), Patterns of Creativity Mirrored in Creation Myths (1972), The Passion of Perpetua (1979), Projection and Re-Collection in Jungian Psychology (1980), Puer Aeternus (1981), and On Dreams and Death (1986).JUNG has developed an attitude toward dreams and also found some technical aids with whichto approach their meaning, which are far more differentiated than anything known before him.Dream interpretation has thus become the core of an analytical treatment. We also know fromJung that the unconscious is a living reality, something which can react creatively to our consciousattitudes and proceedings. Therefore one may ask the question, what does the unconscious itself "think" about dream interpretation? In the following paper I will bring a dream which circlesaround this problem-it tries to interpret a dream about dream interpretation!This dream was dreamt by a candidate of Zurich Jung Institute. He was kind enough to allowme to use it here. This candidate had finished his first exams and was beginning to see controlcases, He worried whether he understood their dreams and went on to ponder over the wholequestion of what happens in analysis. Then he had the following dream:I am seated in the open square of an ancient city. A young man, wearing only baggytrousers, approaches and sits cross-legged on the ground facing me. His torso is muscular, full of life and vitality. The sun reflects on his blond hair. He tells me dreams which he wishes me tointerpret. As he relates each dream, a large boulder falls from the sky striking the dream atremendous blow. Chunks fly off the dream revealing an inner structure resembling a modernpiece of abstract sculpture. With each dream, another boulder falls, fragments fly off, and moreand more of the nuts and bolts skeleton is revealed. I examine the bits that have been knockedoff the dream and find they are made of bread. I say to the youth that this demonstrates how onemust strip away the dream until one comes to the 'nuts and bolts' 'Dream interpretation is the artof knowing what to discard. It is like living! The dream changes. The youth and I now sit oppositeeach other on the bank of a beautiful river. Between us the dreams have taken on a differentshape. They now form a pyramid structure built up of thousands of small squares and triangles. Itis like a Braque 'cubist' painting in three dimensions, but it is alive. The colors and tones of the
 
individual squares and triangles constantly change and I explain that it is essential for one tomaintain the balance of the whole composition by immediately compensating a color change by acorresponding change on the opposing side. (This color balancing is incredibly complex as theobject is three-dimensional and the colors are in constant motion.) Then my eye travels up to thetop of the pyramid of dreams, the apex. There is nothing there. It is the sole point of intersectionat which the structure could be held together, yet it is empty space. As I look into this space itbegins to glow, then radiate a white light.Again the dream changes. The pyramid shape remains but, instead of triangles andsquares, it is now composed of shit. The apex is still glowing. I have the sudden realization thatthe invisible point is made visible by the solidity of the shit and vice versa, and the shit is madevisible by the invisible apex. I peer deeply into the shit and somehow I grasp that I am looking atthe hand of God. In a flash of insight, I understand why the apex is invisible. It is the face of God.Then Miss Von Franz and I are walking beside the river. She is laughing and says jokingly, 'I'msixty-one, not sixteen, but they both add up to seven!Let us look at the dream in our accustomed manner. Its drama takes place first in the opensquare of an ancient city, later it continues on the bank of a river. First it is more concerned withsomething man-made, the cultural side, namely the problem of interpretation, i.e., what we do ordo not do with dreams. Later it shows a purely natural happening. The young teller of the dreamis described as especially healthy, probably in order to show the normality and healthiness of whatproduces dreams (even in a "neurotic" patient). The dreams which he tells are something real-asort of substance. The moment of interpretation is represented by a stone falling from heaven; thedreamer does not do the interpretation himself. This probably compensates for what heovervalued in his consciousness: the importance of his good or bad interpreting of dreams. It saysthat a good interpretation is an event, not a "doing." Things which fall from heaven,mythologically speaking, are thrown down from the gods, signs of the gods for man. Thereforemeteorites were always and everywhere considered to be sacred. The Ka'aba of the Moslems alsocame originally from heaven. Dream interpretation is evidently a being hit by some mysteriousactive forces in the spiritual area of the unconscious (i.e., heaven). Those parts of the dreamwhich are hit then turn into bread. If we understand a dream in the right way we are vitalized andnourished by its meaning. It is like manna or that "super-substantial" bread for which we ask inthe Lord's Prayer. ("Our daily bread" is a wrong translation. The Greek word hyperousion meanstranscendental, above substance.) The other parts of the dream each turn into a "bolt with a nut"(or mother!), for every real understanding of a dream is simultaneously a coniunctio. The bolt andits mother represent the union of a masculine and feminine and are also something which servesto bind things together. Each time a dream is realized, the conscious and unconscious unite andsomething in us, which was autonomous before, becomes one with the rest of the personality andthus the structure of the Self slowly emerges.The voice then explains that one must know-as in life also-what to discard and what to keep.Probably the "flesh" of the dream (the bolts are, as it says, its skeleton) must be discarded: it isthe surface of many images which veil, so to speak, the deeper meaning of the dream. Peopleoften say that they had a "silly" or "disagreeable" dream, but when one analyzes it, it alwayscontains a deep and helpful message.After the period of seeking for the structural elements, there then comes a more "fluid" way of contacting dreams-contemplating them together with the stream of life. The structure has becomea pyramid, which in Egyptian religion is a symbol of the Ba-soul, of the individual immortal kernelof man. Though the Self always already exists (it probably throws the transforming boulder ontothe dreams), it is also "built up" by our attending to our dreams and thus becoming conscious of it. The pyramid consists of innumerable triangles and squares constantly changing in shape andcolor. In a more advanced phase of dream interpretation, all the different nuances of emotion andof feeling tones become relevant and also their constant complementary play of opposites and
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