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Sept 12, 2011
ilano
please do not repli!ate ""dangero#s st#$$
%AD&%'&S !oil or tensor coil are not used in don smith as they create time warp and makes u
forget time and affect ur brain and cells and slows down communication from
cells to brain making ur brain work at half frequency than a normal one. effects r bad. tesla used
it though. don didnt
caduceous coil experimental handbook and my experiments with it.
Caduceus Coil Observations
O!"#S CO"$
obius Coils
interesting stuff DO%& R'($"C)&' '$S' # *"$$ +)%"S,-
!a.ak claim of time travel / 01234200
5eelynet / Dimensional Shifts / written 03267284 / #pdated 06260266
a must read but dont apply thing
&he &ime &ravel ,andbook9 ) anual ... / :oogle !ooks
Caduceus Coil #sed &o &ime &ravel
$+ $; resonance setups <=>.(: / ?ou&ube
Running at =0w / ?ou&ube
running at 64w.(: / ?ou&ube
Sept 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by dra*
Well, I thought we were going from nst directly to step down. What you just described is a step up. If I
do a step down then I hae the e!tra wire. "o I'll as# again. Is it o# to hae all the e!tra wire from the
secondary not used in the turns, can I coil it up or does it hae to be straight$ I'd rather not cut it off
so I can still hae the %uarter wae & full wae.
see don setup pic and follow accordingly. xtra wires must not be coiled. use
required length so u wont have extra wire except for connexions. u need xtra
for sliding in and out of coil. use a string first on pvc and when u find right
suitable length of string measure it and make coils accordingly. this is the
trickiest part but u can do it.
remember rule of thumb primary@627 of secondary
and secondary is 7 times primary
dont deviate from this
split secondary in a magnet with blotch wall all same direction. later u can
use bifilar.
first same direction secondary coil splitted at blotch wall and .oin the two
coils with and earth it. when u .oin both ends of secondary with diodes u get
voltage that is half of the full voltage secondary eg if u have 1.1 kv then u
will have finally A.A kv<centre tapped and earthed>and two ends .oined of
secondary. the output will be from centre and two .oins of secondary.
Sept 12, 2011
ilano
don !ir!#it !oil t#rns !al!#lation and $re+#en!y o$ operation
,i folks-
well nst solid state A0/70 khB. A kv or 7 kv is required
we use lengths to vibrate em without needing caps. we r .ust inducing half
wave .ust to make em vibrate at their natural frequency and since natural
frequency of vibration depends upon the length of coil thats why lengths r
important. we use mhB range coB if we use khB range lengths will be
veryyyyy long.
suppose u have 3 inch radius pvc for primary
so length one turn required @3CA.67C3@63.=1 inches263@6.071 feet approx
if u need = turns then length required@=C6.071@=.3A feet
and ur secondary length will be@ 7C=.3A@30.83 feet
now u can calculate ur frequency at which its gonna work
length<627 wave>@ 3712frequency in mhB
=.3A@3712f in hB
f in mhB for quarter wave@ 3712=.3A@74.0A hB
now if u have A inch radius for secondary
length required for 6 turn@3CA.67CA@6D.D7 inch263@6.=4 feet
so no of turns in sec wil be @30.83 feet26.=4 feet@6A.A3 turns
so u will have = turns primary with 3 inch radius and 6A.A3 turns in
secondary with A inch radius pvc tube.
thats how its calculated.
we r not using full lengths for turns we need extra for connexion and middle
.oin so we take it from lengths calculated so we ad.ust turns accordingly say
A turns in primary and 60 turns in secondary. keeping lengths same for
primary@=.3A feet and secondary@30.83 feet
if u feed 3000 volt in primary A turns then voltage per turn@30002A@111.11
volts
and since we have secondary 60 turns then voltage per turn across secondary
is 111.11 volts
so full voltage across secondary is 60C111.11@1111.1 volts @ 1.1 kv approx
since we treat secondary coil as magnet we have to make space for blotch
wall<the middle neutral space of %EEEES middle .oin. so we make =
turnEEEEE=turn
EEEE is sec coil middle in straight line its length@primary coils total turn
width. so primary sits between this straight wire .oining = turns and = turns of
secondary.
0000000000000
EEE is .oining secondary turns below red 000 not shown
0@secondary coil turns
0@primary turns<slidable>
hope u understand now.
hope my work is over now
i take ur leave now-
alien atlantis and the flight crew
wish u best of learning and good luck-
only aliens can help u out and am one-
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I don't %uite understand what you are saying here.
'he other parts cleared things up some. I guess the confusing bit is you are describing many different
ways of doing it. I hae ( different )"''s on order and waiting for them to get here. I haen't tried the
longer secondary yet. Is it o# to hae all the e!tra wire from the secondary not used in the turns, can
I coil it up or does it hae to be straight$ I'd rather not cut it off so I can still hae the %uarter wae &
full wae.
'han#s for your help
well .ust get nst solid state A0/70 khB. A kv or 7 kv
we use lengths to vibrate em without needing caps. we r .ust inducing
half wave .ust to make em vibrate at their natural frequency and since
natural frequency of vibration depends upon the length of coil thats why
lengths r important. we use mhB range coB if we use khB range lengths
will be veryyyyy long.
suppose u have 3 inch radius primary
so length one turn required @3CA.67C3@63.=1 inches263@6.071 feet
approx
if u need = turns then length required@=C6.071@=.3A feet
and ur secondary length will be@ 7C=.3A@30.83 feet
now u can calculate ur frequency at which its gonna work
length<627 wave>@ 3712frequency in mhB
=.3A@3712f in hB
f in mhB for quarter wave@ 3712=.3A@74.0A hB
now if u have A inch radius for secondary
length required for 6 turn@3CA.67CA@6D.D7 inch263@6.=4 feet
so no of turns in sec wil be @30.83 feet26.=4 feet@6A.A3 turns
so u will have = turns primary with 3 inch radius and 6A.A3 turns in
secondary with A inch radius pvc tube.
thats how its calculated.
we r not using full lengths for turns we need extra for connexion also so
we ad.ust turns accordingly say A turns in primary and 60 turns in
secondary. keeping lengths same for primary@=.3A feet and
secondary@30.83 feet
if u feed 3000 volt in primary A turns then voltage per
turn@30002A@111.11 volts
and since we have secondary 60 turns then voltage per turn across
secondary is 111.11 volts
so full voltage across secondary is 60C111.11@1111.1 volts @ 1.1 kv
approx
since we treat secondary coil as magnet we have to make space for
blotch wall<the middle neutral space of %EEEES middle .oin. so we make
= turnEEEEE=turn
EEEE is sec coil middle in straight line its length@primary coils total turn
width. so primary sits between this straight wire .oining = turns and =
turns of secondary.
0000000000000
0@secondary coil turns
0@primary turns
hope u understand now
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
*ost of it. "ome times it was match your primary fre%uency to your nst and other times thats not
needed. "ometimes a series spar# gap will not go O+, and sometimes it will. I'm confused about why
the e%uation of the length of wire is so important and een needed if you are going to cut the wire
down anyway and compensate with caps.
,our e!tra coil thing sounds interesting, but I don't %uite understand it. -ould you clarify a little
more$ ./ degrees to primary$
,i the don thing can be applied in the following ways
6. when u have high voltage only nst 10 hB then u have to make it radio
frequency and that can be done by pulsing<don way of connecting diode
n sparkgap for pulsing primary> so u get high voltage and high
frequency.
3. when u have high frequency and u wanna large harvest so u wanna
increase higher radio frequency in mhB from khB. u do same thing as
above .
A. when u have A0 khB and high voltage and u want to stay at this
frequency only u will .ust use a transformer<don coil air core> with turns
of primary n secondary according to ur choice and make em resonate
with ur nst frequency A0 khB for that u have to use caps.
7. if u feel u dont want to disturb resonance. .ust earth secondary and
wind another tapping of third coil and make it resonate with secondary
and tap it for pulsing trafo. or u convert to dc and voltage divider to
make 63 or 37 volts. and use invertor.
if u want transformer output. the only way is to resonate it at =0210 hB
and that can be done by diode n spark gap. as resonance needs very low
input coB it .ust need a push power to keep it going not much power
input as resistance of circuit is Bero.
length of coil is important coB it will make it easier to resonate and find
matching resonance conditions else u will keep calculating caps for
matching resonance. always use primary 627 of secondary. this will make
u get resonance .ust by sliding primary inside secondary.
turns ratio are important for knowing the output voltage else u might
overvolt output.
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by lat*o
0re you jo#ing$
I folow thread from beginning. Why the long dispute about fre%uence change resistor with that guy
where at som point you say you hae wor#ing deice based on it if in reality you used capacitor$
I mean i try to build deice e!actly li#e yours and i too# ths informations for real and wanted to use
resistor just to find out it was wrong info.
-an you at least erify that there is no more secrets before people build$
A,, IS -'.'A,'D /O01I/2 1',D!
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1ere is simplest Don circuit2
Don "mith #indly show it in ideo here and e!plain how wor#s2 Donald 3 "mith Deice 4 part 5
Is without 6e!pensie7 capacitors.
8or eerybody who want build with minimal component
or sae money.
3arning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
t4is !ir!#it 3ill $ry trans$ormer5 Don 3as +#ite !lever5 4e 3anted #s
to learn $rom mista*es5 i$ # $eed 67*48 to iron !ore t4en !ore 3ill
sat#rate and 4eat #p5 !o8 iron !ore !ant manage 4ig4 $re+#en!ies
t4ats 34y 3e #se $errite !ores5 moreover don 3anted #s to get to
*no3 3ot is -5 - is a!t#ally !apa!itor5 and a diode is #sed in
!ombination to p#lse t4e tra$o 3it4 spar* gap in series5 same t4ing
done in primary5 is done 4ere also5 b#t a p#re p#lsed d! is $ed5
means 2 diodes is #sed to generate 709:0 48 a! t4ro#g4 spar* gap5
triggering t4e ,% !ir!#it to os!illate at 709:0 485 sine 3ave5
here u can understand kapanadBe also. where he says first filter means
diode then 3nd filter means another diode to pulse trafo.read kapanadBe
patent. and u will understand better. kapanadBe did one thing instead of
battery as pure feed he added capacitor across the input as a buffer. he
charged that cap with battery and that cap fed the circuit containing high
frequency module which then filtered and fed to primary. then added cap
to primary and said first frequency stabiliBer.to make primary resonant
with secondary he again used stabiliBer cap across secondary then 3nd
filter to pulse output trafo.
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
don trans$ormer driver !ir!#it
complete don with transformer driver
pic attached
here trafo is pulsed with dc timed by spark gap creating =0210 hB resonance
in trafo primary. match primary "nductance of trafo in nomograph with =0 or
10 hB matched with inductance draw line at two points and select the right
cap where it crosses farad line.
the trafo can be 3000 volt to 660 or 630 volt ac or 7D0 to 630 or 660 v ac.
depended on the output of $3 coil. can be managed by variac or a step down
at $3 using right turns ratio.
3arning! 3arning -3arning!3arning!3arning!3arning!3arning!
3arning!3arning!3arning !3arning!3arning!3arning!3arning!3arning!
3arning!3arning!3arning !3arning!3arning!
do it at #r o3n ris*5 i 3ont be responsible $or any $ail#res or damages
t4at mig4t o!!#r51ig4 voltages r dangero#s and !an *ill yo# instantly5
read sa$ety norms5 i do not re!ommend yo# or en!o#rage yo# to do it5t4e
in$ormation 4ere is $or *no3ledge p#rpose only5
)ttached &humbnails
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by ni!o
I wallready finished my oscillator for 5/9h: who will drie my flybac#. Primary coil 6on ferrite7 is in
5/9h: resonance, ;( turns, /.(</ mili1, capacitor =/nf 65 capacitor of /.>u8 each in series7.
"econdary is ? turns --w and ? turns -w, 3secondary is <4? micro1 each, the capacitor will be
>,5u8 for resonate at 5/9h:.
@ecause will be a step down transformer in primary will be =9 in secondary =;/ 4=?/ at 5/9h:
fre%uencies. 'his can be dangerous for my 'A or my computer$ or for me$
ferrite core for nst input and don coils must be air cored. keep ur all
electronic gadgets switched off. no its not dangerous for u except careful
at handling high voltages.&hey can kill u instantly when handled
carelessly. read safety norms below
important read it below
Donald Smith Devices too good to be true
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by !ognito
"o the 1A transformer is a split 'esla coil ala Don "mith$
'wo coils center tapped to ground, coils are >?/ degrees out of phase 6counter rotated from each
other ground in center Boltage and currentB7
Air-coils are not needed if VAR is high enough for 30kva setup ?
)eeded 0ir4coils are second 1A stage for >;/#a setupC
@r,
-ognito
#se nst $or inp#t and #se air!ore don !oil5
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
don trigger resonan!e! m#st vie3
,i folks-
veryyyyyyyy important basic concept-
must view this to understand with clear concept
learn and understand don trigger
to activate resonance of coil
principle of triggering with diode
FGFHFIFJFK06 / ?ou&ube
applied trigger to get resonance<kapanadBe alias don smith>
<kapanadBe used low voltage where as don smith used high voltage. later
kapanadBe used high voltage>
FLM MNFOFPFKFQFRFO next 6 / ?ou&ube
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
"o when you say2
you are saying his secondary should be longer then his primary$
well secondary is 7 times primary. but we use turn ratio to our advantage. suppose he has 3000
volt fed to primary so he has to have 600 turns so he gets 30 volt per turn in primary. and in
secondary he desire 630 volts so 30C1@630 so he will be having 1 turns in secondary in total but
as this secondary coil is magnet he will have to wound A turns and A turns at the ends of primary
so the primary is in centre of blotch wall of the secondary coil treated as magnet. same direction
of A turns not bifilar. later he can use bifilar to see wot it brings better for him. the remaining
lenghth of extra wire of secondary must be there left free so he gets resonance and if he cuts that
short he will have to use caps of larger mkfd. to make up the length he cut off. so length must be
same its for us to decide how many turns we want.
basically wot don did he had 3000 volt and = turns primary that means
he had 700 volt per turn in primary and he had A7 turns in secondary
<centre tapped> so he had 700C64@1SD00 volt in each secondary winding
and when .oined togather he has 1SD00 volt fed to caps 3mkfdTD000
volt so he stepped up actually. here we r doing step down from 3000 to
630 volt. here ususal caps of low voltage and higher capacity can be
used and a diode and 696 ratio isolation transformer< can be made with
thick wire iron cored> with suitable cap is used to pulse the transformer
thru a spark gap so we get 630 volt ac pure sine wave. either we can step
up and then do step down or we can use stepdown at the first step. the
thing is to have resonance working here we r saving an intermediate step
of big isolation transformer. we r using 696 ratio for transformer. also we
r saving high cost high voltage capacitors that r beyond affordability and
budget constraints and availability.
Sept 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by dllabarre
0s stated preiously I hae >=#A )"', D/ m0mp
8or primary I was going to use =B PA-. Each turn around PA- is ?B of wire.
>// turns ! ?B F ?//B F ;;.< feet of wire.
"hould primary be solid wire$
What si:e$ >= 0WG$
8or secondary 4 I was going to use ; 0WG stranded wire. > turn --W and > turn -W. @ased on
calculation of length of primary how long should the secondary wire be$ "hould it be primary&( for
step down$
'han#s
,i
plB read this link below first
Donald Smith Devices too good to be true
wire can be solid. but multistranded is recommended. well secondary is
always 7 times primary use turns as required and leave remaining as free
length. or u can go for 7D0 volt secondary and use stepdown later and
use transformer for output from 7D0v to 630 volt. first try with don way
coil. no bifilar. in secondary. the best way to go is step up n step down. if
u can manage 3000/A000 volt using variac the turns of primary coil will
be less. so think abt voltage and turns in primary .udiciously b7 u make
coils.
ask me if u r unable to calculate things. will recommend best for ya
Sept 10, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Zilano
I'm ready to start building and winding my coils.
I hae a >=/ 0- input )"' that outputs >=#A, = poles ;#A each, D/m0mp short circuited.
If I use this schematic, how many turns is my primary$ >=#A diide by >// turns is >=/ per turn$
'hen my secondary is only > turn -W and > turn --W to gie >=/ output correct$
OH forget the turns and ta#e length of primary diide by ( to gie me length of secondary$ Does the
length of primary matter in this case$
Or a combination of length and turns.
'han#s
well dllabarre-
first learn how to U neon sign transformers
very important
caution
caution
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and
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learn first then decide coiling.
caution
caution
example below if u have 63kv out nst
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its very simple if u have 63kv feed then 63S0002600@630 volt means 600
turns in primary and one turn in secondary. <length of secondary will be
7 times of primary leave extra uncoiled>
now decide the length of primary.
length of primary required @ 3CpiCrC600V extra A feet<for connexion><r@ radius of tube>
Sept 10, 2011
ilano
don smit4 !omplete re$eren!e
,i folks
go thru this
all complete videos and pdf nomographs etc even deleted vdo B of don smith
home office.
;reeenergyinventions
practical circuit< the suitcase device->
;reeenergyinventions
more don smith important
http922www.slock.co.cc2smith2donEsmithEenergyEguide.pdf
http922www.slock.co.cc2smith2donEsmi...EpwrEguide.pdf
http922www.slock.co.cc2smith2donEsmi...nrgyEmeths.pdf
http922www.slock.co.cc2smith2donEsmi...slaEpatent.pdf
read and understand don much better and kapanadBe too
http922www.panaceauniversity.org2)in...rickE5elly.pdf
OR' &O CO'- 5''( $')R%"%: .
wait for more add ons on this page come back to this later also
Sept ;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Why is deice then so different from others$
)o resonance on primary, no resonance on secondary.
'hen ,as you suggest, only resonance on not isible output transformer$
1ow to set e!act resonance fre%uency with such caps$
What capacitance would you use for calculation$
this single capacitor is charged by $6 and $3 and is placed b7 isolation
transformer 7D0 volts or if $6 and $3 r not used its directly charged with
dual diode input with nst directly. and &@$2R and &@RC used. each half
wave of nst that is 630 cycles charges n discharges the cap and that
timming is related to 10 hB pulsing of isolation transformer. so resonance
is happening in nst can be used directly to charge and discharge cap and
pulse the isolation transformer.
Sept :, 2011
ilano
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Sept :, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by 42o!omm#ter
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will.
than#s
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Sept 7, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by bog#sla3
:ilano
8or )"' you are suggesting series spar# gap in both ;/1: and D5#h: situation.What about parallel
spar# gap $ I saw in one of your schematic that it is used for )"' because it doesn't load it with large
current. -an we use it and in what situation $
One more %uestion 2 in case of ;/1: )"' there is no diode in schematic. Does it mean capacitor
must be matched to impedance of )"' at that low fre%uency 6;/1:7 $
,i there-
we use pure tesla no diode when =0210 hB to create hf coB we have hv already.(diode !an be
#sed b#t it 3ill deteriorate !y!les to 27 or 60 so #se ind#!tan!e $ilter
on bot4 leads o$ nst5 to prote!t nst 70489:048)
when we have hf and hv we use diode and use don circuit to trigger coils resonance and diode is
used.
there is difference between creating hf and triggering hf.
yes cap has to be matched when making tesla coil for fun. but for dons circuit we dont need to
match cap with nst<=0210hB nst
Sept 7, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by @4armon
'han#s for the reply :::. I will loo# into solid state )"'s.
'he transformers on this page 61igh Aoltage -urrent 3imited 'ransformers7 all seem to be for ;/1:,
so I'm guessing that they are iron core although they are rated for the right oltage and amperage.
I now hae the PA* (// from the page 6http2&&www.ama:ing>.com&h4hf4power4supplies.htm7. 'he
specs say that open4circuit oltage is =/# and that the output is ariable from > to >5#.
1oweer, there is only one potentiometer on this for controlling fre%uency. 8urther, the website says
it goes from >51:4D5#1: and the product documentation says =/1:45/#1:.
usually there is a control in nst to control oltage . if it doesnt hae it u can use a high %uality
dimmer or ariac if its ac operated6nst7. if u go for >= olt nst then a ariable controller built in and
if not use a ariable resistance to control dc oltage fed to input of ur dc nst.
"o I'm not %uite sure what to do with this.
'he flybac# circuit will ta#e the fre%uency of its load 6my spar# and resonant coil7, right$
@ut since this has a drier, I need to tune my load 6spar# and resonant coil7 to it and fiddle with the
potentiometer.
0nd I hae no idea how to control oltage with this deice.
,i .harmon-
read first. page 3= post 471
usually there is a control in nst to control voltage . if it doesnt have it u
can use a high quality dimmer or variac if its ac operated<nst>. if u go for
63 volt nst then a variable controller built in and if not use a variable
resistance to control dc voltage fed to input of ur dc nst.
%S& ')%S %S& %O& (* :'& SO$"D S&)&'
try to find A0/70 khB 7kv dc 63 volt nst or same rating ac nst according
to ur grid supply frequency =0 hB or 10 hB and voltage rating in ur
country
%eon &ransformer 7kv/%eon &ransformer 7kv anufacturersS Suppliers and 'xporters on
)libaba.com
dc nst
%eon &ransformersS %eon (ower Supplies
ebay
neon transformer X e!ay
Sept 7, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by Farm4and
E!celent stuff in this thread, Zilano you are putting a lot of time and wor# in here, good job. Een
those of us not paticipating much in this discussion are getting something out of this thread, good to
see all the interest and good direction.
I thin# the way the secondary coils still confuse me, Don says he just cut a long coil in two pieces, so
that would mean it should be li#e one big coil but tapped in the center. Whats you're opinion on that
Zilano $ Does it matter $
I dunno.
"ince there is only one primary wouldn't it be #ind of cancelling if it was wound any other way $ @ut
since it is in resonance wouldn't both ends alternate thier pea# oltage with the center tap between.
When the two ends are added and put through one 0- side of the 8W@H it would gie double the
duty&oltage4time and the center tap to the other 0- side of the 8W@H gies all the current. *aybe.
0nyway #eep up the good wor# all.
-heers
EDI'2 When I say B3i#e one big coilB I was just refering to the direction of winding is all, each side
of the secondary would ma#e up one coil each for resonant purposes. 0s you say earlier.
It's just the direction I'm getting at.
,i ;armhand-
3ell top o$ tesla single !oil 34en base eart4ed 4as (voltage
pea*A!#rrent node) and base 4as (!#rrent pea*A voltage node)
34en 2 tesla #sed ba!* 2 ba!* same dire!tion voltage is at ea!4 end
a a !#rrent is at base
b#t in !ase o$ bi$ilar 34ere one is !3 and ot4er is !!3 34ole t4ing
!4anges t4e !!3 !oil 4as voltage pea* and !#rrent node at base and
end 4as voltage node and !#rrent pea* at end o$ !!3
34en 3e @oin t4e t3o bases adn @oin t4e t3o ends o$ !3A!!3 !oils 3e
4ave almost same voltage and same !#rrent at base (@oined) and
ends(@oined)
resonan!e is li*e sleep it 4as no e$$e!t on !3 or !!35 eit4er # lie on
bed to sleep or sleep34ile sitting5 sleep is sleep!
Sept 7, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by -A<S'0
Zilano
,es you hae shared B1eapsB of info,0nd it is most definately appreciatedCC
'he problem is in 'he B1eapBCCIfor me the BnoiceBJ
Will any amount of begging ,Groeling ,or pleading...............
0ppeal to your compassion$$
-an you 8ocus a bit more$$
Please
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,i-
radi#m 3as $o#nd in t4e 4eap o$ d#st! be a mole and dig a 4ole till #
$ind t4e t4e se!ret o$ po3er5 i$ 4eaps rnt t4ere 34ere # r gonna dig
t4e 4oleB i gave # 4eap 3it4 radi#m inside , all # need is to dig it
rig4t b#t its s#rely t4ere in t4is 4eap o$ teCt and $ig#res5
yes its t4e spar*!
spark changes the game from low to high and high to low-
the game of frequency is played below
step up frequency and step up voltage. harvest power lower frequency and step down voltage.
and there u go-
these lines above have all the magic from ,; &O $;. those who will understand need less
components and achieve the desired-
moreover am here to help ya
always -
#%&"$ ) %O& C)(&#R'D !? ) #;O
Sept 7, 2011
ilano
parallel or seriesBBBBB resonan!e!
An electromagnets magnetic field strength is
determined
solely (without changing the ferromagnetic core
material) by the number of turns in its winding times
the
current measured in amps flowing thru it. With that in
mind consider the difference between serial resonance
and anti-resonance (below).
Series LC circuit:
Resonance = input current is
maximum
at resonance; urrent thru dri!e coil windings
is
maximum.
Parallel LC circuit:
"arallel Resonance#Anti-resonance
= input current is
minimum at anti-resonance; urrent
thru dri!e coil windings is
maximum.
$ow% if you were a design engineer after the maximum
magnetic field strength for the least input power%
which
circuit would you use&
answer' parallel of course(
Remember these things !ery clear
). when u ha!e nst of *+ h, then u ha!e high !oltage but u dont ha!e
high fre-uency. so ma.e it using primary oscillate at hf.
/. when u ha!e nst with high !oltage n high fre-uency u only need to
trigger primary and ma.e it to oscillate at hf independent of nst
fre-uency. dont try to match primary fre-uency with nst
0. 1f of nst has nothing to do except in2ect h! hf into primary to ma.e
it oscillate at natural fre-uency but if it doesnt then use cap across
primary. and match primary fre-uency with secondary.
3. use don way of connecting primary%cap%spar. gap when u ha!e
h!4hf nst.(sr )50 also used this) in2ect h!4hf4diode. half wa!e pulses
to ma.e oscillate primary at its natural fre-uency.
*. when u dont ha!e hf nst then u must use s-uire+3/ way( cap %
spar. gap% and primary coil) and fire up ur nst *.! or 0.! or /.!
*+h,#6+h,
oil onstruction 7echni-ues - 1A8wa!es.com
9esigning and 8a.ing a 7esla oil "art ) : $ate;s blog
point to ponder!
If we can use 50hz or 30khz to create 24!"hz
can we not "ake 24! "hz to 50#$0 hz%
answer is &es and kapanadze knew well so we
too!
that is the secret of 'esistance ' in don s"ith
"&sterious ' (4 isolation transfor"er
think ! and e)ecute!
final secret re*ealed!
Sept 7, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by s+#ire0D2
1ello allC 'his thread has been progressing %uiet well and 'han# you to all who has helped,
especially Zilano, *r. -lean, Don "mith, 'esla, and so many others.
'his is my current circuit for a flybac# system and so far out of all the circuits I tried this one has the
best charging time for the capacitor6based off of don's smith circuit, bifiliar7. I used a =/ second time
trail for comparison but I hae no idea how close I am to input compared to output. *y multimeter
can't read the amps while the system is running due to high fre%uenicies. 0ny idea's how to compare
watts in to watts out$
0lso I am curious on how to ma#e this a self running circuit, without the >=olt, seen in the
9apanda:e ideo. I tried some capacitors out front, after the >= olt, and it helped the circuit to run
more cleanly but won't it run after I disconnect the battery.
0nother %uestion I hae is how do I #now my oltage on the output$ 0 flybac# can operate anywhere
from =/# to 5/# and trying to get it bac# down to >= olts seems %uiet challenging. 0nother
obseration I noticed too was that the ground seem to hinder my charging capacity but when I do
attached it to the spar# gap, the coil seems to 'sha#e'.
0nyways, than#s to all for your ideas and obserations, its inspirational to see great minds see#ing to
benefit the species. Good show.
Lust a soul see#ing freedom from tyranny.
4444444444444444444
What lies behind us and what lies in front of us is nothing compared to what lies within us.
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deter"ined
solel& -without chan,in, the ferro"a,netic core
"aterial. (& the nu"(er of turns in its windin, ti"es
the
current "easured in a"ps flowin, thru it /ith that in
"ind consider the difference (etween serial resonance
and anti0resonance -(elow.
Series LC circuit:
'esonance 1 input current is
"a)i"u"
at resonance2 Current thru dri*e coil windin,s
is
"a)i"u"
Parallel LC circuit:
Parallel 'esonance#+nti0resonance
1 input current is
"ini"u" at anti0resonance2 Current
thru dri*e coil windin,s is
"a)i"u"
3ow4 if &ou were a desi,n en,ineer after the "a)i"u"
"a,netic field stren,th for the least input power4
which
circuit would &ou use%
'e"e"(er these thin,s *er& clear
5 when u ha*e nst of 50 hz then u ha*e hi,h *olta,e
(ut u dont ha*e hi,h fre6uenc& so "ake it usin,
pri"ar& oscillate at hf
2 when u ha*e nst with hi,h *olta,e n hi,h fre6uenc&
u onl& need to tri,,er pri"ar& and "ake it to oscillate
at hf independent of nst fre6uenc& dont tr& to "atch
pri"ar& fre6uenc& with nst
3 7f of nst has nothin, to do e)cept in8ect h* hf into
pri"ar& to "ake it oscillate at natural fre6uenc& (ut if
it doesnt then use cap across pri"ar& and "atch
pri"ar& fre6uenc& with secondar&
4 use don wa& of connectin, pri"ar&4cap4spark ,ap
when u ha*e h*9hf nst-sr 5:3 also used this. in8ect
h*9hf9diode half wa*e pulses to "ake oscillate
pri"ar& at its natural fre6uenc&
5 when u dont ha*e hf nst then u "ust use s6uire042
wa&- cap 4 spark ,ap4 and pri"ar& coil. and fire up ur
nst 5k* or 3k* or 2k* 50hz#$0hz
Sept 7, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i :::,
I just placed orders for a >=/A & >(/A Aariac and a (#A D/ma )"'. I couldn't find a (#A ;/ma )"',
so maybe I need to wait to find another to wire them in parallel. I didn't see any G8-I reset buttons
in the picture, so hopefully it's what I need.
"ince I'm not using the flybac#, the signal I hae coming out of this will be roughly (///A K ;/1:
and D/ma. I would thin# that I'd want the primary coil ringing at D/#1: across the gap cause it's an
een multiple of ;/1:.
I still don't understand the purpose of the gap on the output side. I'm guessing it's only necessary to
dump the high oltage if you are using a low turns primary to a high turns secondary. 'hat gets you
down to just about (?/A or whateer your target is and then the aristor smooths out the rest.
If that's true then the point is that you can go in either direction 6step4up or step4down7, as long as
you dump the e!cess olts.
I was about to purchase some aristors, but I need to double4chec#... we are tal#ing about clamping
oltage, right$ What ma! oltage and amperage should these be rated for$ 0lso, there aren't any
aristors that clamp at precisely (?/. 'hey clamp K (<5A and (??A. I'm guessing we should use
(<5A to protect the (?/olt caps downstream.
"orry I'm behind. 'his thread is moing fast. I hae lots of catch4up reading to do. 247
L
,i .harmon-
well ur nst is ok first try with this nst. i have uploaded the pic of don arrangement of spark gap on
this page see it. use hv diode ok. gap is .ust use to trigger pulses of hv and hf to xcite primary to
set into oscillations. its frequency doesnt depend upon nst frequency it depeds upon $C of
primary. anyways wots ur frequency of nstU is it 10 hB or in khBU I0S E'00'- &
2'0 /S0 >I01 1F SA= 60"D0 ?15 %O DO/
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Sept D, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by broli
Is there a reason why you're using the term BbifilarB then. It seems you hae one >&( wae primary
and two full wae secondaries left and right of it. bifilar refers to a way of winding and hoo#ing up a
coil, usually by winding a turn of one coil between the turn of the other coil li#e illustrated aboe.
0nd also with this correction of yours my remar# still stands. "ince the BbasesB of the secondaries are
at / olt and they will force a node of the standing wae, which also means nodes will form at the
ends of the coils. 'hus there will be no oltage there.
,i !roli-
bifilar is nothing- its same coil but ccw. if ur one tesla is cw the other is ccw. .oined togather. one
produces voltage and other produces current. ccw produces current.
rgds
I$, 4o3ever, 3e gro#nd t4e base o$ t4e !oil, t4is is a $or!ed nodal
point and t4e !oil 3ill os!illate at its nat#ral 19D"3ave resonant
$re+#en!y5 04e res#lts 3ill be en4an!ed i$ t4e energy is p#lsed into
t4e !oil at its eCa!t resonant $re+#en!y5 04e e$$e!t is !alled resonant
rise, and t4e !oil a 4eli!al resonator5 A standing 3ave appears on t4e
!lassi! 19D"3ave resonator 34i!4 4as a !#rrent pea* at its base or
gro#nd point and a !#rrent node at t4e top o$ t4e !oil5 ,i*e3ise,
t4ere eCists a voltage nodal point at t4e gro#nd or base o$ t4e !oil
and a voltage pea* at t4e top5
3ell 3e are al3ays attra!ted 3it4 glitteratti ! 3e al3ays tend to see
tesla top as po3er so#r!e b#t its not its @#st voltage pea* at
resonan!e5 t4ats 34y 3e #se !ap in series 3it4 top and lig4t a b#lb5
4ere 3e ma*e !#rrent a4ead by atta!4ing !ap5 3e never loo* $or
gro#nd base o$ tesla5 gro#nd point o$ tesla 4as !#rrent pea*5
4o3ever i$ 3e pla!e a b#lb $rom gro#nd point o$ tesla !oil and top o$
tesla # 3ill lig4t t4e b#lb in a good 3ay5 sin!e po3er HvIi5 voltage is
at top and !#rrent is at base5 3e !ombine t3o 3it4 a b#lb in series5 #
3ill lig4t t4e b#lb5
Sept D, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
*an,
I hae been reading and I'm reali:ing I need to ta#e this one step at a time. I'm going to start with my
flybac#.
:::...
can you recommend which of the wound flybac#s on this page you would use$
1igh Aoltage 'ransformers
I'm happy to wire up the driing circuit, but I don't want to wind it myself. 'han#sC
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Sept D, 2011
ilano
3arning dangero#s"Isrovi*a" resonan!e!
/ One hundred years ago there was no electronic devices that generate a high
frequency electromagnetic waves.
!ut it got a very simple scheme. "t was a capacitor that is discharged to the
punch. *hen a spark between the electrodes slipped in the circuit there were
fluctuations in a very wide range of frequencies.
*hether by accidentS either specially &esla brilliantly solved the problem
simply ad.ust the resonance.
)fter allS the electric spark is practically all frequenciesS some of them will
coincide with the natural frequency of the circuitS and resonance occurs.
&his frequency varied depending on the loadS but automatically ad.usts the
contour iskrovik in response.
Is*rovi* " a dangero#s t4ing, be!a#se some o$ its spe!tr#m lies in t4e
4ard #ltraviolet and so$t F"rays, 34i!4 !an be learned and +#ite
strongly5 &his convinced some experimenters who tried to repeat the
experiments &esla9 they tend to get cancer and die prematurely.
'lectromagnetic spectrum / *ikipediaS the free encyclopedia
<A?' &- %OI,S I/ 01' SP'%0-&< OF -F /O0 F -A=S O- &.
0H,9- !al!#lation
"nstantaneous Current Calculations of an 'nergiBing R$ Circuit <Calculator
&"/A0Z""S>
0H-5% !al!#lation
"nstantaneous +oltage Calculations of a Charging RC Circuit <Calculator &"/
A0Z""S>
!apa!itor !4arging
Capacitor
Ind#!tor !4arging
Reactance
best $or #nderstanding don idea to drive iron!ored trans$ormer $rom 4$
4v a! to 110 volt a!
http922www.physics.byu.edu2faculty2b...o2su7732ac.pdf
important
;requency Response
":!&@"%S#$)&'D :)&' !"(O$)R &R)%S"S&OR
Ins#lated 2ate Eipolar 0ransistor
)n "nsulated :ate !ipolar &ransistor <":!&> is a device that combines [the
best of[ OS;'&\s and bipolar transistors. &hey are characteriBed by having
both high voltage and current capacity. #sually the voltage rating is 100 + or
6300 +. Small ":!&s <around &O/330> can handle around 6= )S where as the
larger [brick[ ":!&s can handle several hundred amperes. &heir typical
application is in an ,/bridge for high power applications.
Sept D, 2011
ilano
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%al!#lations
"f you decide not to use the the &eslaap program <or other design program> you can use the following
equations to design your &esla coil.
pi @ A.676=831=A=D848A3AD71317AADA348=
%S& +) @ %S& Output Current C %S& Output +oltage
%S& "mpedance @ %S& Output +oltage 2 %S& Output Current
%S& *atts @ <<0.1 2 %S& +) ]0.=> V 6> C %S& +)
(;C Capacitance @ <%S& +) 2 <3 C pi C %S& "nput ;requency C <%S& "nput +oltage ]3>>> C 6000000
(rimary Resonate Capacitance @ <6 2 <3 C pi C %S& "mpedance C %S& "nput ;requency>> C 6000
(rimary $&R Static Capacitance @ (rimary Resonate Capacitance C 6.=
(rimary $&R Sync Capacitance @ 0.DA C<%S& Output Current 2 <3 C %S& "nput ;requency> 2 %S&
Output +oltage> C 6000^
Secondary Coil &urns @ <6 2 <agnet *ire Diameter V 0.000006>> C Secondary *ire *inding ,eight C
0.84
Secondary Capacitance @ <0.38 C Secondary *ire *inding ,eight> V<0.76 C <Secondary ;orm
Diameter 2 3>> V<6.87 C sqrt<<<Secondary ;orm Diameter 2 3> ]A> 2 Secondary *ire *inding ,eight>>
Secondary ,eight *idth Ratio @ Secondary *ire *inding ,eight 2 Secondary ;orm Diameter
Secondary Coil *ire $ength @ <Secondary Coil &urns C <Secondary ;orm Diameter C pi>> 2 63
Secondary Coil *ire *eight @ pi C <<Secondary !are *ire Diameter 2 3>]3> C Secondary Coil *ire
$ength C A.D1
Secondary "nductance @ <<<<Secondary Coil &urns ]3> C <<Secondary ;orm Diameter 2 3> ]3>> 2 <<8 C
<Secondary ;orm Diameter 2 3>> V <60 C Secondary *ire *inding ,eight>>> C 0.006> C Secondary
"nductance )d.ust
)dvanced &heory
"t is actually a bit more complicated then the explanation given above. )lthough the turns ratio is
around 69600S the transformer operation is based more on resonance then on turns ratio. *hen the spark
gap firesS the electric charge in C6 dumps into $6S and then back into C6S and then back into $6. &his is
called resonance. C6 and $6 make up what is called a resonator. &hey are changing an electric field <C6
volts> into a magnetic field <$6 gauss>S and back againS at a rate <frequency> determined by the value of
C6 x $6. &he secondary <$3> picks up some energy from $6 each time $6 charges up. &he output
terminal C3 gets an electrical charge from $3 each time $3 discharges. &he secondary and the output
terminal resonate at the frequency determined by $3 x C3. &he magic happens when $6 x C6 @ $3 x
C3S or both resonators resonate at the same rate <this is made to happen by ad.usting the tap on $6>.
*hen both resonators are at the same rateS the energy in $3 builds by a little bit from $6 on each cycle.
&his is called resonant rise. &he output terminal voltage gets higher on each cycleS until the voltage gets
too high to holdS and then WWWWWW))))))((((. &his is analogous to a person on a swing. "magine
the legs are a resonatorS going back and forth at a certain rate. &he swing with the person is another
resonatorS swinging back and forth at a certain rate. "nitiallyS the swing is hardly moving. &he legs start
going back and forth and the swing starts going. "f done rightS the legs change position at the very
peaks of swing motion. &hey are resonating at the same rate as the swing is swinging. )s each peak of
swing motion is reachedS the leg motion adds a little bit to the next cycle so that the swing arc grows a
little each time. &his can continue until the arc gets over 6D0 degrees <horiBontal at each peak>. &henS
the chains begin to slacken and things can get pretty unpredictable. "n the same wayS the resonator
C6x$6 acts like the legsS adding a little energy to resonator C3x$3 <swing V person>S on each cycleS
until the voltage in C3 gets so high that it .ust explodes as an electrical discharge in search of ground.
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&esla Coil DesignS Construction and Operation :uide
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Sept 2, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
:ilano and others
I thin# I'm starting to understand formula of natural resonance.
3F=(;&fI*h:J
it's ta#en from speed of propagation of E* wae along the surface of wire. We match the length of
wire 637 to >&( of waelength 2
3F >&( M alfa 6alfa F waelength7
because f F c & alfa 6c 4 speed of light in acuum or air 6nearly77 f 4 fre%uency
then we hae 2
alfa F c & f , alfa F ( M 3 FN 3 F >&( M c & f
one foot F /.D/(? m 6meters7 and c F =.. <.= (5? m &s
so computing all using feet instead of meters and choosing to cut fre%uency to *h: 6instead of 1:7 we
hae 2
3 F >&( M .?D5<>/5;,(D6...7 & >/O; F =(5.?.&f Iin *h:J , the result is in feet
I hope I understood it correctly :ilano $ *aybe that helps somebody.
)ow if this is the case then >&( waelength is maybe also >&( of period of oscillation of that E*
wae. Would that mean we are chasing strictly magnetic field of >&( of oscillation or so called )E0H
field $
,i there-
KFor t4ose not 3ell a!+#ainted 3it4 0esla !oil design and operation,
1#ll begins by pointing o#t t4at, $#ndamentally, gro#nding t4e base
end o$ a verti!al !oil $or!es a node at t4at end, and t4e !oil resonates
at its nat#ral 19D"3avelengt4 $re+#en!y5 A KgoodK gro#nd
!onne!tion is a m#st5 I$, 4o3ever, t4e !oil is #ngro#nded, and
typi!ally pla!ed in an elevated, 4ori8ontal position, t4e !oil t4en sel$"
resonates at its nat#ral 192"3avelengt4 $re+#en!y 3it4 a node $or!ed
at t4e !enter5 K
I$ 3e pla!e a +#antity o$ ele!tri!al energy into t4e !oil and do it
+#i!*ly eno#g4, t4e !oil 3ill ring at its nat#ral resonant $re+#en!y,
m#!4 li*e a bell5 .oltage nodes and pea*s 3ill appear along t4e !oil5
I$ t4e !oil is $loating in $ree spa!e, it 3ill tend to os!illate at its
nat#ral 192"3avelengt4 resonant $re+#en!y, and ea!4 end o$ t4e !oil
3ill eC4ibit a voltage pea* 34ile a voltage nodal point 3ill eCist in
t4e eCa!t !enter o$ t4e !oil5 I$, 4o3ever, 3e gro#nd t4e base o$ t4e
!oil, t4is is a $or!ed nodal point and t4e !oil 3ill os!illate at its
nat#ral 19D"3ave resonant $re+#en!y5 04e res#lts 3ill be en4an!ed i$
t4e energy is p#lsed into t4e !oil at its eCa!t resonant $re+#en!y5 04e
e$$e!t is !alled resonant rise, and t4e !oil a 4eli!al resonator5 A
standing 3ave appears on t4e !lassi! 19D"3ave resonator 34i!4 4as a
!#rrent pea* at its base or gro#nd point and a !#rrent node at t4e
top o$ t4e !oil5 ,i*e3ise, t4ere eCists a voltage nodal point at t4e
gro#nd or base o$ t4e !oil and a voltage pea* at t4e top5 -esonant
rise is a $#n!tion o$ t4e !#rrent val#e at t4e base o$ t4e resonator
and t4e K(K or +#ality $a!tor o$ t4e resonator5 04is +#ality $a!tor is
determined by t4e ind#!tan!e o$ t4e !oil, its resonant $re+#en!y and
t4e A% resistive losses 3it4in t4e !oil5 04is is all t4at enters into t4e
e+#ation as long as t4e !oil is $ree and $loating in t4e Kper$e!t
va!##mK o$ interstellar spa!e! 0o my *no3ledge, no !oil in 4istory
4as ever !ompletely satis$ied t4e e+#ation $or (!
In t4e real 3orld, ( is most a$$e!ted by t4e !oil $orm t4at t4e 3ire is
3o#nd #pon, spe!i$i!ally its !omposition and t4i!*ness5 04ere is
anot4er KevilK 3it4 34i!4 0esla did battle !onstantly, and never so
boldly as 34en at %olorado Springs, t4at is *no3n as inter"t#rn
!apa!itan!e5 In addition to sel$ ind#!tan!e, a !oil o$ 3ire also 4as
internal or distrib#ted !apa!itan!e !reated by t4e proCimity o$ t4e
ad@a!ent t#rns to one anot4er5 'a!4 t#rn is li*e a small !apa!itor
plate 34i!4 intera!ts !apa!itively 3it4 ea!4 t#rn ad@a!ent to itsel$5
Eot4 t4e $orm $a!tor and t4e internal sel$ !apa!itan!e 3or* to
red#!e t4e resonator (5 Finally, near e$$e!ts by t4ings s#!4 as t4e
gro#nd, metal ob@e!ts, et!5, all !onspire to ma*e t4e real 3orld ( an
almost impossible val#e to !al!#late5
>4y all t4e $#ss abo#t (B 04is is 34at 0esla terms t4e
Kmagni$i!ation $a!torK and is dire!tly related to t4e e$$i!ien!y o$ all
0esla !oil or similar resonant systems5 And, t4is is 34at ma*es a
magni$ying transmitter into t4e #ltimate 0esla !oil5
Sept 1, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
:ilano, I'm not good in electronics ,could you e!plain some things $
>. We should match capacitor -> at primary to impedance of transformer $ What does it mean $ Is
that for minimi:ing reflections from souce so capacitor is charged from this power source fastest
possible way $ 1ow fast is that and is that important for final effect $ ,our computation is for 5/1:
which is ery slow fre%uency 4 does fre%uency of power source matter $
'hin#ing about 'A flybac# with own drier P how we can find output oltage 6can be measured
appro!imately by spar# length7, amperage of spar# and fre%uency 6can be measured by scope
probably7 to set proper concensator ->$
=. We are matching primary H3- to the >&( of natural fre%uency of primary coil length ,right $
D. "econdary length is ( times primary length 4 means full wae length , right $ Do we assume in that
case 'esla bifilar 6two windings in opposite directions from center7 and does it mean >&= waelength
for each sub4coil $
(. 'hen we hae match secondary cap and coil to this natural full wae fre%uency ma#ing second
H3- circuit on output side$
5. +sing 'esla coils method 6two '-P one for step up and one for step down7 how the procedure
should be corrected $
0nd finally the most important %uestion 2 what is that natural resonant fre%uency of wire $ why
=(;&*h: $ "orry,if that was e!plained before 6just post lin# where7
,i !oguslaw-
6. well we match impedance of nst with cap. so efficient power transfer
of nst to cap. moreover its also to match timming of =0 hB or wotever
frequency u have for nst. so cap charging cycles r timed correctly <only
when we r using ac> if we r using dc as in case of dons circuit/diodes
after the nst then we dont need to calculate cap and .ust follow length of
primary and match cap for the inductance of primary and we can stick to
371mhB or 63A mhB>
3. well in case of flyback we dont know voltage and milli amps so we use hit n trial method. as
flyback has diode built in<color tv2color monitor> we .ust calculate $ of primary and calculate c
using formula f@623CpiCroot$C. and .ust feed the two wires of flyback in series with spark gap or
parallel spark gap to either parallel $C or series $C
primary circuit.
A. *ell a single tesla when erthed from bottom and around bottom 627 wavelength primary
triggers it so it resonates at 627 of its wavelength. here we have two tesla coils .oined at base and
we r with primary resonating at 627 so it will make 3 tesla coils to resonate independently at 627
of its wavelength. coB middle is base of 3 tesla coils .oined back to back of bifilar is earthed.
7. again at secondary we r matching 627 wave but coils r .oined so we add cap to one tesla bifilar.
so primary n sec resonate at 627. here the trick is we harvesting 3 outputs with single primary
resonating input. bifilars r used to divide voltage into independent unit one tesla producing amps
and other tesla voltage. we can tap more amps and less voltage by tapping less turns on voltage
producing tesla and more turns on current producing tesla by using a rheostat like tapping slider
on tesla coils.
=. there r many ways. one we can step down using similar tesla coil. or when we make coil we
decide voltage of secondary by having less turns on secondary so its diameter is bigger. we can
make coils to get 660 volts by using a single turn of secondary or by using a little say quarter
portion of secondary.
watch carefully the pic of kapanadBe coil green box . the coil u see
which is biggest has been tapped not at ends but a portion of the turn.
thats giving kapanadBe =kw else kapanadBe said it was giving 300kw so
they made it suitable for = kw.
well the last part of ur question is if we use frequency in kilo hertB say A0 khB@A026000@.0AmhB
formula for finding length of resonant wire is
length of resonant wire in feet@3712freq. in mhB
so its 3712.0AmhB @D300 feet
which is too big coil
so we use 3712371mhB@ 6 feet
or 371263A@3 feet
which are manageable in winding.
Sept 1, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by spar*2
hi Zilano
I see what you mean now
0s I understand
It's up to us during the construction of 3>, what is the fre%uency the more natural and less
cumbersome for us.
'he fre%uency of )"' do not hae any connection with the construction of 3> than to decide the
alue of the charge rate of ->.
"o what we see on the image of Don suitcase is not reality. @ecause the coil 3> has a length of =.=5
feet, ma#ing it a fre%uency of >/.mh: but that is just one e!ample.
0m I correct$$
hi spark 3-
yes u are correct. but we dont know dons actual length. so we cant predict the frequency don
used. well frequency in range of megahertB makes us manageable lengths to coil and if we go in
for kilo hertB lengths are much larger and thousand of turns so 371 mhB is very suitable. also u
can divide 371 by any frequency in mega hertB so it gives u enough length to wind primary with
=/60 turns. and make secondary 7 times of primary length.pl8 read my post t4at am
going to #pdate on page 26 o$ t4is t4read5
Sept 1, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by no3atts
I'e been e!perimenting with the Don "mith deice and am about to reerse the primary and
secondary coils as suggested. Interesting approach. 'his thread is great.
I am now wondering if a major flaw in my replication is due to my not understanding the )"'. I am
using one of the older, non4G8I iron4cored )"'s. Is this putting out only ;/ 1: and not the D5 #: Don
tal#s about$ 0nd if it is only ;/1: ouput, will the spar# gap be sufficient to raise the fre%uency$
I also am wondering if it would be iable to put a diode on the line oltage feeding the )"' so it
outputs pulsed dc. 0nyone tried this$
I am really concerned there is a world of difference between the old and new style of )"'. Perhaps
the best solution is using a new solid4state )"' and attempting to bypass the G8I.
hi nowatts-
old nst will work fine read my post on page 3A of thread.
nst frequency .ust help to calculate primary cap of the don coil. and its frequency .ust help charge
capacitor. but it will work.
DIOD' 1',PS 0O P-'.'/0 DA<A2' F-O< S'%
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Sept 1, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by spar*2
1i Zilano
I do not understand
,ou spea# of the natural fre%uency of the cable which is li#e a >=Dmh: dllabarre as the calculated or
that of the nst $$$
,i spark3-
frequency depends upon the wirelength of primary coil we r going to use
its calculated by formula
length of wire in feet@3712freq. in mhB
secondary is 7 times of primary and if bifilar wounded its D times
read my post on page 3A of this thread where i explained how to calculate the primary capacitor.
even a 10 hB old nst can be used and also latest solid state A0 or 70 khB
nst can be used.
nst is .ust power supply and its freuency only helps to charge primary
cap faster.
D"OD' ,'$(S &O (R'+'%& D)):' ;RO S'C CO"$
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Sept 1, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by +vision
1as anyone here eer remoed the G8I from a modern )"' li#e this one 2
Eer light )eon Power "upply 5# =5ma
,i qv-
well it can be removed by opening the case it contains a small circuit but as u open it warranty of
nst will void. another way out is dont earth the nst and earth the secondary bifilar at centre. and
slowely raise the input either using a dimmer in series with ur solid state nst and then pulling it
back and again raising it slowely. use diode in the output lead of nst so to prevent it from high
voltage spikes that can destroy ur nst by secondary bifilar voltages that r fed back to primary coil
circuit. u have to try it many times and u will get to know that how to handle it without tripping.
i have updated the info in page3A of thread do read it abt tesla coil and
links are added.
Sept 1, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
"o your saying all copper wire, > foot long, will resonate at =(;m1:$
)o matter how thin# or thin the wire is$
=(; & >/ feet of wire F =(.; m1:
=(; &= feet of wire F >=D m1:
"o I hae to add a capacitor in parallel to my nst output so they resonate at >=Dm1: in my e!ample
for = feet of wire in my primary coil$
I thin# I hae it...
Don3
,i Dllabarre-
?'S # R R":,&-
never confuse wire with a violin string. string vibrate and we feel
vibrations where as in wires thin or thick magnetic and electric fields
vibrate not the wire. yes thick wire will have low impedance and thin
wire have high impedance.
impedance @ resistance in ac circuits. if wire is thick oscillations stay
longer where as in thin wire they die fast.
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by +vision
'han#s Zilano.
8or all you people spending a lot of time indoors with 18 spar# gaps, please read this 2
BE!posure to an arc4producing deice can pose health ha:ards. In a closed space such as a
classroom or home, the continuous arc formation of an open4air Lacob's 3adder will ioni:e o!ygen
and nitrogen, which then re4form into reactie molecules such as o:one and nitric o!ide. 'hese free
radicals can be damaging to the mucous membranes of people near the spar# gap. Plants are also
susceptible to o:one poisoning.
'hese ha:ards are not present when the arc is formed outdoors since the heated ioni:ed gases will
rise up into the air and dissipate into the atmosphere. "par# gaps which only intermittently produce
short spar# bursts are also minimally ha:ardous because the olume of ions generated is ery small.
0rcs can also produce a broad spectrum of waelengths spanning the isible light and the inisible
ultraiolet and infrared spectrum. Aery intense arcs generated by means such as arc welding can
produce significant amounts of ultraiolet which is damaging to the retina of the obserer. 'hese arcs
should only be obsered through special dar# filters which reduce the arc intensity and shield the
obserer's eyes from the ultraiolet rays.B
8rom 2
"par# gap 4 Wi#ipedia, the free encyclopedia
QA.
,i Yv-
well thankx for the alert-
I re!ommend spar* gap m#st be !ontained in a metal
!ontainer li*e t4e spar* gap in t3o 34eelers or a#tomobile5
it 3ont radiate #v and bad spe!tr#m and o#tlet !an be t#bed
to open environment5 yes it is 4arm$#l $or eyes and brain5 so
3at!4 o#t!!!!
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Zilano
Bthe basic #ey is =(;&fre%uency in *h: F length of primary in feetB
E!ample2 =(;&./D F ?,=// feet
'his formula will result in thousands of feet of wire.
1ow do you only get >/ or =/ turns bifilar with that much wire$
'han# you
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this frequency.
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mistake is deeply regretted
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
for ferrite core , the spar# gap is in series with the primary and capacitor in paralel, the calculation
will be the same$
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A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
'han# you, that is what i need.
I belie i need a strong drier for flybac# transformer not =nD/55 , li#e is in my attach filles.
,i %ico-
u can still use ur flyback if u r using ferrite core. if u want aircore then
go for %S&. ;"RS& &R? *"&, ;'RR"&' COR' )%D #R ;$?!)C5
*"&, ORD"%)R? ,O' CO(('R *"R' (+C CO)&'D.
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
simple !al!#lations t4at 3ill ma*e # !oil ringing !orre!tly
h" ;olks-
important do read and follow-
KFor t4ose not 3ell a!+#ainted 3it4 0esla !oil design and operation, 1#ll
begins by pointing o#t t4at, $#ndamentally, gro#nding t4e base end o$ a
verti!al !oil $or!es a node at t4at end, and t4e !oil resonates at its nat#ral
19D"3avelengt4 $re+#en!y5 A KgoodK gro#nd !onne!tion is a m#st5 I$,
4o3ever, t4e !oil is #ngro#nded, and typi!ally pla!ed in an elevated,
4ori8ontal position, t4e !oil t4en sel$"resonates at its nat#ral 192"
3avelengt4 $re+#en!y 3it4 a node $or!ed at t4e !enter5 K
%ikola &esla <6D=1/687A> among its many incredible inventions 2 insightsS also made this curious
machine capable of generating high/voltage discharge. ;or many a teslacoil is a transformerS but it is an
inappropriate term9 the &esla coil is not based on the principle of operation of the common transformer-
&here are various types of teslacoil9
/SS&C <Solid State &esla Coil>9 teslacoil of this type is called [solid state[ as it is controlled by an
electrical circuit with no moving parts and no spark gap. &he resonant frequency is generated directly
by an electronic circuit.
/+&&C <+acuum &ube &eslacoil>9 ;or fans of the genreS these works with vacuum tubes. &o get really
interesting dischargesS you need to find huge military/type valves such as :#D6 in some market
places or specialiBed electronics distributors. &he peculiarity of +&&Cs is the high frequency of
operationS generating harmless sparks via the skin effectS and you can tap them with your fingers-
/S:&C <Spark :ap &esla Coil>9 &his is the most famous and classic teslacoilS which we will explain
below. !ases its operation on the appropriate siBe of a few components.
&he aim in any case is to generate a resonant frequency on the primary winding that resonate on the
secondary circuitS which must receive energy as a real antennaS but turning it to high voltages by
reducing the amperage accordingly9 in fact it is not free energyS since the energy output does not exceed
the energy supplied.
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)n S:&C teslacoil is based on two circuits oscillating at the same frequency9
(rimary oscillating circuit Secondary oscillating circuit
) generator produces a frequency of =0,B at high voltageS typically between 7 and 63kv describing a
wave that repeats itself over time =0 times per second9
*hen the half/wave is rising upS the primary capacitor is charged and the spark gapS which acts as an
automatic switchS is opened to allow charging of the capacitor. &he circuit must be designed so that the
spark gap closes when the half/wave reaches its peak and the primary capacitor is at maximum charge-
*hen the spark gap closesS the high voltage generator is electrically separated from the circuit formed
by the capacitor and the primary winding. "n this conditionS the capacitor start oscillating with the
primaryS and acts as a transmitter at a frequency that is the resonance frequency of the $C circuit9
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&he oscillation of the $C circuit is repeated until the charge is dissipated.
*hen the capacitor charge is completely dissipated during the oscillationS the spark gap no longer has
enough energy to stay activeS then it opens againS and begins a new cycle of charging the primary
capacitorS thus repeating the above steps. &his circuit without the secondaryS it\s .ust a powerful radio
frequency transmitter.
&he secondary circuit is a circuit that oscillates at the same frequency of the primaryS but the value of
the secondary inductance is much larger but still have the same frequency because C3 is a smaller
capacitor compared to the primary C6 <the torus>. &his is the difference that introduce the big voltage
amplification-
;or optimum configuration of the secondaryS you should ad.ust it to 6 2 7 of its natural frequency of
oscillationS this allows for the highest point of the coilS a maximum voltage <this says the legendS and
the experiments confirms...> &o obtain this frequency is used .ust to add on top of the secondary coil a
toroid or a sphere of the correct capacitance. "f you imagine the wave of charge that develops on the
side of the coilS you drop the peak point at the summitS the last loop9 So here we have the maximum
voltage at the minimum currentS with discharges less dangerous and more longer- "f the circuit is not
siBed correctly and the voltage peak point was lowerS along the windingS this can lead to surface
discharges over the coil with the consequent failure of the insulation and winding damage...
"magine being on the swingS you swing your legs back and forth9 the swing is initially barely fluctuatesS
but insisted the oscillation will increase even more. "n this exampleS your legs are the primary winding
and the secondary coil are the swing. "f you continue swinging the legs <the primary using the capacitor
charge> that will increase more and more and the oscillation of the swing will follow exactly the motion
of your legsS but still further increasesS is getting higher and higher. &his is the voltage increase- &he
primary continues transmitting its energy to the secondary that is already oscillatingS adding the two
waves with each new oscillationS .ust like a swing. &his is why it is important that the two circuits can
oscillate at the same frequency-
04e main !omponents o$ a 0esla!oil)
since we r using diode after nst so we have dc<though rippled one. its better we use fwbr@full wave
bridge rectifier and make hvdc then feed primary cap> but half wave will also do. kapanadBe used fwbr.
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Deep;ried%eon / &esla Coils
page to #nderstand resonan!e o$ t4e !ir!#it and timing !
Resonant charging
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&ableEtopES:&CEschematic._(: <6A.1 5!S 618 views>
don circuit for old style =0 hB nst..pg <A=.= 5!S 77 views>
don reverse tesla easyway..pg <30.1 5!S A4 views>
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I'll use ferrite rings, >= pieces, which I will stic# 6glued7 together.
ferrite is a >.? inch outside diameter and one inch long.
I use flybac# transformer with diode built inside.
What will be the alue of capacitor placed between flybac# transformer and spar#4gap$
hi yes stick em togather.
yes wait for my next post happening .ust now. and u will get everything for caps and inductance
calculation.
(osted %ow- read it
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
simple message to all!
,i folks-
&o fetch power u must have two tesla coil one to step up and one to step
down. in my earlier circuit i made nst as tesla coil to step up 7000 volts and
then did step down. to 3=0 volts then added diodes and caps for 3=0 volts and
got results. since all of u cant make heavy gauge nst so its better for u all to
use nst2flyback to power tesla as step up and use step down either by aircore
transformer or using another tesla as step down. the idea is to get low voltage
in range of 660S630S330S3=0 etc.reverse tesla lowers voltage and keeps
resonance working so amps are not lost. dont use choke )& C'%&R' O;
!";"$)R !4o*e a!ts as resistor $or a! A/D I/%-'AS'S .O,0A2' so
it slas4es amps5 *' %''D )% R; C,O5' to correct ripple after diodes
with caps<pi filter configuration> so u get pure ripple free 660S630S3=0 dc or
even 63 v dc by voltage divider circuit. and use invertor or push pull with
heavy ac transformer. and if u use ferrite in the centre of primary u get more
than 40/600 amps. voltage divider .ust slashes voltage and amps will always
be there.
i gave u all the hint of step down so its easier to handle power produced and
ac caps at low voltage r cheap and affordable so the diodes too. all the diodes
and caps r needed after step down.
A#g5 61, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
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A#g5 60, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by vrand
1i Zilano
'han#s for the e!plaination.
Is the cho#e wound oer the primary coil as shown in your diagram$
0nd by cho#e shunt to ground in this diagram$
"o there are D sets of coils, primary, bifilar secondary -W&-W R and a bifilar cho#e -W&--W$ Did
I get that right$
-heers *i#e
,i ike-
there is no choke here. choke can be put across output. here r 7 coils
6 primary.
3 secondary bifilar
A output6
7 output 3
output 6 and output 3 are .oined parallel for final output.
coils wound over ferrite rings and if u cant find ferrite rings u can use cu coated welding rods in
pvc tube and wind bifilar first then secondaries at ends and finally primary in centre. mark leads
of each coils coB later they will confuse u if same wire is used. use different colored wire. so
identificable.
bifilar is shunted and earthed. lengths must be exact 3712freq in mhB@W
divide B by suitable number so u get 6 feet or so adn make each bifilar 7 ft. if the division is not
exact then use fractional part also else coil will be needing caps to match pri n sec resonance.
A#g5 60, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
)ice setup dra#.
,our secondary windings loo#ed to be spaced farther away from your primary than >&=B spacing$
Zilano says =B primary and DB secondary. What are your coil diameters$
*aybe ne!t add some copper coated welding rods inside the primary$ Zilano also says that will get
you better results&more amps out of the secondary, as the primary coil coupling to the secondary coil
increases dramatically.
What does your 3-H meter say is the inductance of your coils$
What fre%uency are you resonating your primary coil$ What are your primary caps alues$
Do you hae a center tab to ground on your secondary$
One theory with the secondary bifilar coil arrangement with the center tap to ground is to Bpull
electronsB from the ground connection. 0nother is that the bifilar -W&-WW creates olts on one end
and amps on the other end of the coils. 0 third theory is that it creates Bcold electricityB and the
ground and capacitors BconertsB the cold electricity to real electrons.
3oo#ing forward to your e!periments results, than# you for sharing them oer here.
-heers *i#e
,i ike-
energy doesnt come from ground. ground acts as a drain pipe and if we
use choke there we can control the hv voltage. of the secondary coil. and
if we shunt it means no resistance to ground then hv is at full peak in
secondary coil. its the magic of magnetic and electric fileds that produce
amps.
A#g5 2L, 2011
ilano
70 48 resonan!e inp#t in pi!o 3atts o#tp#t in 3atts
,i folks-
A% 70 1 -'SO/A/%'!
must view
easy solution showed i posted in previous posts. here is screenshot.
pic attached-
A#g5 2L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
:ilano
What I mean is that new -H' flybac# has internally 1A capacitor, so it is already resonant
circuit.'hat I saw on russian page.'hey stated internally flybac# is li#e in picture 6when flybac# te!t
should be replaced by primary&secondary windings7
'hat should be easy to chec# with H3- meter ,right $
,i boguslaw-
yes right the flyback is resonant- but it has thin coils so amps r missing.
thats why we feed flyback high voltage as power source only to resonate
with thicks coils to harvest amps loaded voltage- thats the secret else sr
68A or kapanadBe or kapagen people have not used coils after mot or
flyback.
well if one is using flyback with internal diode then do not use diode which i mentioned in
schematic. if the flyback is old one without diode then a diode must be used according to my
schematic.
well a flyback is must to trigger the primary n secondary. in my schematic after spark gap is
primary<trigger coil sec27> and then shunted secondary 7Cprimary> then above that harvest coils
in parallel for output.
A#g5 2L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by e3i8ard
0h Zilano, Where hae you been all my life$ ... oops sorry I got lost there for a minute the %uestion
was supposed to be where hae I been the last few wee#s. I totally missed this thread until today.
)ice wor# here and congrats on haing a home powered with O+ and off gridC I do hope you will
stic# with us until there are some replications as it has happened so many times in the past that some
one has something but disappears before any one gets a replication. I always worry that anything
less than full disclosure of what you #now may put you at ris# of isits from bad people.
,ou had posted a circuit in post S(;D but it does not seem to be there. -an you repost that or does
anyone hae that diagram$
3ell all da !redit 2O'S 0O O/' <A/ 1'-' A/D 01A0S
.rand9<I?'!
1e is t4e one 34o !olle!ted t4e material i @#st 3in*ed at 4im and 4e
did all t4e 4arvest! %1''-S ! 0O <I?'!
3el!ome ba!*! to $or#m!
en@oy #r stay!
A#g5 2L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
"o... I got my garage cleaned out last wee#end. 'hat's my progress so far. 247 0ctually, my garage is a
basement storage unit in an apartment comple!. "o I'd li#e to add shielding for my project right
away. What's the best material to use for H8 shielding$
L
,i .harmon-
the best shielding material is fine wire mesh. but be careful coB since its
metal it must not touch any of ur high voltage spikes or direct contact.
first use with open circuit when its working u can enclose it with a metal
box ensuring no shortciruit of hv with the walls of the box <kapanadBe
green box>
A#g5 2L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I'e found on russian site something interesting which needs confirmation. 'hey posted schematic of
'A flybac# , the newer one with built4int diode. 'hey stated it already contain 1A diode and
capacitor.If that's true some effects could be obtained just with flybac#,spar# gap and primary of
transformer, when matching resonant fre%uency of flybac# and matching primary to this.
I'm still searching for a way to measure length of primary and secondary of flybac# or car ignition
coil for purpose of >&( waelength resonance.
0nybody has idea $
Lust my poor two cents
,i boguslaw-
well all new CR&@C)&,OD' R)? &#!' tv and computer flybacks
have hv diode built in the red wire with rubber cap in output and this is
an advantage where as capacitor acts as current limiter. we can make
flyback fire from 6.= volt to 63 volt by using 3nA0== by winding
primary and feedback coils on one limb of flyback ferrite. older tv
flybacks didnt have hv diode but they used it externally they r like long
tube 3/A inches look like an elongated ac fuse or glass fuse.
to get power from resonance fly back is .ust use to tickle and trigger
resonance and large harvest can be obtained from secondary directly or
indirectly<step down> from same cored coil.
when we use parallel cap across primary then we have to match primary
with nst2flyback. here waveform is balanced sine and at resonance its a
pure standing sine wave. in case of nst we know frequency where as in
case of flyback we dont know its frequency unless cro@cathode ray
oscilloscope or lcd oscilloscope is used to measure its frequency. but coB
of high voltage protective leads are used for measure else scope gets
destroyed5
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dont go for car coil coB it doesnt have ferrite core it has soft iron core
which will heat up at high frequencies and ultimately melt down.
A#g5 2L, 2011
ilano
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bifilar see 3nd pic.
A#g5 2;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Do you mean2
"rimary <<<<<<<< =----------------= <<< = >
?econdary <<<<<<<<< =--==--= <<<<<<< = >#3
Won't that gie us a resonance at a >&( harmonic of the primary$ We would still hae to use caps
right$ -hanging the lengths and si:e of the wire will not ma#e them resonate at the same fre%uency.
E!ample2
Primary2 =(;&./D F ?,=// feet 6for D/#h:7
"econdary ?,=// & ( F =/5/ feet which gies us >=/#h: resonance. We would need caps to bring it
down to D/#h:. +nless the tric# is to use a harmonic of resonance of the primary.
,i Drak-
well primary is 3712.0A
and sec is 7 times of primary.
or follow simple rule sec 7 times of primary and primary@ secondary27
and compensate with caps.
we can override the the lengths and .ust keep turns ratio or primary and
secondary in 697 ratio eg. if length of primary = turns then sec is 30 turns
and if using bifilar then 30 S30 turns in each limb of bifilar. or 60S60
turns in each limb of secondary bifilar.
also we can use formula primary@n turns and secondary 3n. thats is even
multiple of turns in secondary
it will coB here at secondary we have two tesla coils back to back and their bases earthed so it
will resonate at 627. and if we dont earth the middle of bifilar then it will resonate at 623.
when a tesla coils is earthed at base it resonates at 627 and if not earthed it resonate at 623.
A#g5 2M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by ,tEolo
Don't you mean =(;&fre%uency in *1:$
,i $tbolo-
sorry misquoted-
error will be corrected.
thanks
error has been corrected.its 3712freq in mhB
A#g5 2M, 2011
ilano
2et 04e %oil -inging And & >ill Ee 2igling!
h" ;O$5S-
for starters-
the basic key is to get resonance. get it anyhow. the basic key is
3712frequency in hB@ length of primary in feet
use secondary 7 times of primary length in feet.#S' !";"$)R
6 feet@ 63 inch
no of turns@length in feet23CpiCr
("@A.67 OR 3324
where r is in inches@outer diameter of pvc tube23
we can override the the lengths and .ust keep turns ratio or primary and
secondary in 697 ratio eg. if length of primary = turns then sec is 30 turns and
if using bifilar then 30 S30 turns in each limb of bifilar. or 60S60 turns in each
limb of secondary bifilar.
also we can use formula primary@n turns and secondary 3n. thats is even
multiple of turns in secondary
it will coB here at secondary we have two tesla coils back to back and their bases earthed so it will
resonate at 627. and if we dont earth the middle of bifilar then it will resonate at 623.
when a tesla coils is earthed at base it resonates at 627 and if not earthed it resonate at 623.
then u will be needing lesser capacity caps to match resonance of nst to primary and to secondary if u
use parallel sp)R5 gap and if u use series spark gap then u only have to match resonance secondary
with primary.
and morover if u dont get proper caps then resonance can be matched with sliding primary inside
secondary and if that dont work then try caps to match resonance.
:'& &,' CO"$ R"%:"%: )%D # *"$$ !' :":$"%:-
A#g5 2M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
"o you wound your >;mm coil by way of S0 6spiral7 or S@ 6flat spiral7 in the photos aboe$
Don showed the way of 'eslaC 3oo#ing forward to your 00 battery designC
-heers *i#e
,i ike-
dons circuit can give u much more mega watts-. well my coils r not much that thicker as they
used to in my earlier experimental design. am using multi tap with multiple tapping from same
dons coil. we can copy source and feed multiple outlets and source keep on providing its like
getting power from same source without depleting it. am working also with tower arrangement of
don.
A#g5 2M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
,es I remember the 5 turns -W and 5 turns --W center tap to ground bifilar coil 3= secondary
windings, >;mm 6/.;DB or close to 5&?B wide7 secondary flat copper strap.
,ou mentioned ( turns per >B for the secondary$ /.;DB wide can only fit > turn per inch$
07 Do you wind your 5 turns secondary this way$
@7 Or do you wind the secondary this way, flat spiral$
-heers *i#e
well i .ust went for the required output voltage to suit me so i used caps or diodes or resistors or
chokes for the 3=0 volt range saving me lot of costs. cheaper is better. i was striving for cheaper.
thats where = turns counts.
and there are many ways to get the required output. and wot we need is .ust frequency matching
even a voltage lesser than 630 volt will work and even we can bypass spark gap and derive
power. we can use solid state tesla coil the don way and can use ferrite rings also so we can use
lesser voltage but we have to use high frequency in 300 to A00 khB or 6 mhB. we can use crystal
oscillator and as we move to mhB the coil length becomes smaller....... am trying now small
footprint but powerful device which can be initiated by .ust A volts pencil lite or ))
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A#g5 2:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
'his one where it says Bcopper coated welding rodsB. Is the coil tube full of these welding rods to
increase the inductance$
-heers *i#e
?'S )%D &O CO%&RO$ +O$&):'-
A#g5 2:, 2011
ilano
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A#g5 2:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by PinoyU0e!4
*r :ilano,
'han#s for the reply... another in%uiry is from the attached pict. I just obsered it and got a little
confusion. 'he =D/A from inerter output is directly connected to =5' modulator coil which I thin# a
ery low reactance. Do you thin# is it not a short circuit to the inerter$
pinoyTtech
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A#g5 26, 2011
.rand
(#ote)
Originally (osted by 8ilano
1i *i#eC
;+<3=> C?'= -/=L@I3< '?@.
"urpose
7o pro!ide a low reluctance path that increases the magnetic flux through the
coil.
?pecifications
@ow reluctance% high permeability magnetic material' Welding rod; +.+3/A inch
diameter copper coated steel
regards
,ilano ,eis ,ane(

,i Wilano
)re the copper coated welding rods to fill in )$$ of the 3[ inside
diameter coil spaceS in order to raise the coil inductance for higher
magnetic coupling to the secondary thick windingsU
A#g5 21, 2011
ilano
%4eapest"don"$inal %ir!#it 70 18 A! O#tp#t"8ilano eis ane
h" folks-
final and cheapest circuit attached.
easily replicable
and much cheaper with and without === modulator circuit.#S' S"%'*)+'
"%+'R&OR &O ;''D S"%'*)+' "% OD#$)&OR CO"$ SO # :'&
S"%'*)+' O#&(#&.
can be self started with 63 volt battery. touch and start.
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) single ground in this circuit. so u must have a ground properly secured with
heavy ground wire. ,":, +O$&):' R#$'S )(($? ,'R'.DO "& )& #R
O*% R"S5- " *"$$ %O& !' R'S(O%S"!$' ;OR )%?&,"%:-.
best wishes- to all-
thanks for ur cooperation.
A#g5 21, 2011
ilano
don 7048":048 mod#lation te!4ni+#e
,i folks-
get =0 or 10 hB 330 or 3A0 volt final output.
circuit attached.
,ere we use crystal radio technique to get desired frequency. dons circuit is
based on radio telephony. since coils are very close. the power is very high.
and tapped.
here capacitor bank .ust bypasses R; signal A0khB and =0 hB component is
retained and resistance acts to stabiliBe impedance matching with transformer
input.
A#g5 20, 2011
ilano
Sol#tions 88
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R'S#$&S.
A#g5 20, 2011
ilano
dons !al!#lations #pdated
,i there-
dons calculation updated. plB read.
A#g5 1L, 2011
ilano
#ote)
1i Zilano
On the aboe circuit you show a diode D> from the flybac# secondary before the spar# gap.
'he below circuits does not show the D> diode from the flybac#.
Is the D> diode necessary from the flybac# secondary output$
-heers *i#e
yes mike- its necessary to pulse the transformer.
A#g5 1L, 2011
ilano
Don"$inal %al!#lation
&,' DO% S"&, (D; D'SCR"!'S ) D'+"C' O; 3D.D 5* ref9 smith pdf uploaded in my posts.
see as attachment<pdf ones>
don says the transformer is rated for 10 amps and 7D0 volts
that is 10 x 7D0 @ 3DD00 watts
@3D.D 5w
the method to ;"%D &,' R'Y#"R'D R'S"S&)%C' &O C,)%:' ;R'Y#'%C? &O D'S"R'D
C?C$'S ('R S'CO%D
since don uses D000 mfd capacitors
voltage desired2capacitor in farad@ required charging frequency
7D02.00D@10000hB
this means 3 cycles of A0000hB used to charge caps to 7D0 volts
since our transformer is 7D0 to 630 volt
&@RC )%D &@$2R
6 micro farad@60]/1 ;
so D000 micro farad@ D00026000000@0.00D ;
where &@ frequency desired "% C(S OR ,WS R is resistance "% O,S and C is capacitor in ;)R)D
now we lower frequency
if we desire frequency 630 cps<10 up and 10 down>
then R @&2C
@6302.00D
@6=000 ohms
@6= 5ohm<6= kilo ohm> wattage to be calculated by finding voltage and amperes. Since (@+x"
we have &@$2R
R@$2& <here we further stabiliBe 630 hB.calculate R and attach it across the
input side of transformer.>
here $ is unknown and have to be measured by lcr meter<$@(R")R? O;
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A#g5 1L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
'han#s Zilano
What 3-H meter do you use and recommend$
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A#g5 1;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
'han# you for the clarification.
'he spar# gap 6"G>7 should also hae a center post to ground$ Is that needed$
-heers *i#e
,i mike-
yes its needed when u r not reducing voltage. otherwise a 3 pin spark can
work also. here i did not reduce voltage so a A pin spark gap and middle
is earth.
A#g5 1;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano,
Is there any benefits to copper coated welding rods s non copper coated$
-heers *i#e
,i ike-
;+<3=> C?'= -/=L@I3< '?@.
"urpose
7o pro!ide a low reluctance path that increases the magnetic
flux through the coil.
?pecifications
@ow reluctance% high permeability magnetic material' Welding
rod; +.+3/A inch diameter copper coated stee
A#g5 1;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by ,tEolo
I can easily beliee some ariation of that...meaning...none of us really fully understand the source,
een if we hae a pretty good sense of where it is.
"o if spar# U resonance is the #ey, then eerything else is what we in the engineering world call
Bimplementation detailB. 'he reerse 'esla isn't the source of energy, it is the mechanism for
conerting high oltage, high fre%uency, high impedance energy into a usable current. Which is a
pretty big deal, mind you, since the #inds of oltages that e!ist in a high Q resonant systems are a
PI'0 to do anything with, especially at high fre%uency.
I had theori:ed years ago that a 'esla coil was O+ as it sat, and that 'esla well #new the difference
between 'magnification' of energy s 'amplification' of oltage. @ut I wasn't coninced strongly
enough of it being O+ to wor# through whateer it was going to ta#e to conert that wispy spar#y
purple power into something usable...which is e!actly what your reerse 'esla is...and is e!actly what
'esla showed in many, many of his drawings. 'he clues were there if we had just paid attention. It
always bothered me that 'esla belieed the magnifying transmitter to be his greatest inention, and it
is one that we really use the least.
'han# you for ta#ing the time to lead us through this, and than# you for ta#ing the time to wor#
through it yourself. I'm gonna be ery pissed if you are yan#ing our chain...
,i there-
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Don Smit4 <essage For All
h" folks
Don smith wanted us to use our head. but nobody did. when we use nst<the
iron cored> we have hv supply with low frequency say =0hB or 10 hB and its
not a tesla coil. then we make a tesla coil/a resonant transformer. by using
627$ and 7$. but when we use solid state nst/its a tesla coil in fact/it has high
frequency and high voltage. so wot we need .ust a step down. morover in
Don circuits we make tesla coil and then do step down to suit our
requirements like voltage dividers etc. but handling high voltages is not easy
unless we r running a power company. most of want to build this device not
to earn money but .ust to power our homes and verify that don was right or
wrong. when we step down its easy to find and afford components. and get
usable power at the voltage we desire.
*hat i did i tried to understand Dons device. any people ;ail in replicating
Don is because they use spark gap in series and get output under unity or
unity. some dont know how to handle high voltage step down. some stick to
myths that resonance degrades when we use its power. but like crystal radio
resonance dont degrade and when we tune it to a station we keep listening to
the station at its resonant frequency unless we rotate the dial.
y experiments and my suggestions are not based on fantasy or myths. its
true the output is in +)R@+O$&S )('R' R')C&"+'. *,"C, ')%S
*,'% *' #S' $O)D (O*'R D'CR'S'S. ;OR &,)& *' ,)+' &O
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when we use solid state nst. we have one tesla coil. all we need is to use use it
as step down and use )C C)()C"&ORS *,"C, )R' ')S"$?
)+)"$)!$' )%D :'& R'Y#"R'D +O$&):' O#&.
b#& *' #S& %O& ;OR:'& O%' S"($' ;)C& R'SO%)%C'. its the
only key for power. when we step down we keep resonance working with the
nst frequency and with our coil combination of step down tesla.
thats all.
if u have any queries and questions they r welcome-
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(#ote)
Originally (osted by Fenomorp4
What you describe2
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0 resistor across an inductor is ! 3owpass 8ilter C
0 3ow pass 8ilter re%uires a series resistor C
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0nd een if you would use a 3owpass 8ilter, your B0ll4fre%uencyB4signal would still I)-3+DE the
fre%uencies in the Passband below 5/ 1:, li#e (/ 1:,D/ 1: etc that would )O' gie you a clean 5/
1: 0- output.
It is impossible to run appliances with such a signal, so your deice cannot wor#.
,i Zeno-
its nice to see u here-
u r right. we have to use a capacitor and a resistor<lower the frequency
here =0 or 10 hB that is power factor capacitor and use a diode to .oin R
<across the transformer> b7 R and .oin R across the transformer input.
thats the solution-
A#g5 1M, 2011
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(#ote)
1i Zilano
'han# you for the clarification. Do you also downgrade the fre%uency from D/#h: to 5/h: after the
secondary$ Or before the primary$
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1i Zilano
"o you lower the oltage after the spar# gap$ Do you hae a schematic on this setup$
1ow do you do the resonate between the )"' and the air core primary at such low oltage$ We
needed the (# to jump the spar# gap.
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A#g5 1M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by 3ebm#g
3olC tn!...
*y setup is using >=A .0hr lead accid battery with an inerter to >>/A ma! >5/Watt and with a neon
dimmer i can turn my )"' to ma! .9A D/m0mps output.
@ut that ma!imum not needed I guess otherwise i will burn out my caps because of ma! amps that is
going to swing through the cap and primairy coil.
I will also try to use a spar#gap in parallel of the tan# circuit, because de tan# also needs to be on
resonance i can try spar#gap but also use a surgearrestor&lightingarrestor to limit the power, ma!
amps will flow through primairy tan# with both setups.
8or the secondary side i'm not sure what to use yet, a parallel spar#gap and a tan# to resonate
through a isolation transformer i guess, and thats then also possible with
surgearrestor&lightingarrestor.
@ut I thin# I'm needed to ma#e al large primary also otherwise i't is to much power, i'm always
searching for big isolation stepdown transformers but they are not so common so step down in this
coil setup is safer to do and to test.
br,
Webmug
,i thanks webmug for the info. use parallel spark gap across primary. so dont worry about the
high voltage u can .oin same coil reversed to ur present coil and do a step down. and use hf
diodes and filter hf with low amps and use invertor. or u have a choice to make ur own air core
transformer. the best method is to make dc and use invertor. since this device is suceptible to rf
interference unless enclosed in a metal cage. and when we have dc its not that much problem if
we have hv spikes coB diodes take care of that. but always use proper caps across ur rectified dc
to smooth dc output.
#se spar* gap"very important
wish u all the luck. and if u feel u r not able to handle high voltage then use reverse tesla design.
<make $6@primary 7 times of secondary $3.this means "f $3 is 6 feet
then $6 is 7 feet> and if using bifilar $3 then 6 feetV6 feet and 7 feet $6.
:ood luck to u-
best wishes
and if u need any help we r all here to advice u-
i request all members to help eachother and not .ust be selfish.
united we stand and divided we fall-
remember this motto-
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ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
Interesting design. < turns primary and =/ turns secondary. What is the input oltage to the thic#
primary coil$ Output oltage from secondary$
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bi$ilar don !oil
hi folks-
CO#R&'S?9 webmug <esteemed member/energetic forum>
don bi$ilar
pi! atta!4ed
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(#ote)
1i Zilano
'han# you for the e!planation. What wire si:e hae you found that wor#s in your ?/ turn primary
coil$ Windings&turns per inch$
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h" i .ust used pvc insulated insulated wire i found lying in my home did
not measure the gauge of it but its solid copper single strand.and used
basic rule of thumb primary coil wire is half thick than secondary but
results were low as i was not getting the amps. so i used thicker copper
wire like kapanadBe. and got amps. the basic is when u have resonance
the thicker coil generates more amps and if u wanna keep input low
make primary thinner. experiments make u learn wots better for u. i used
single strand copper ac wire 3mm thick 330/3A0 v ).C. and for
secondary used thicker alluminum wire first then changed to copper.
61mm thick.
A#g5 1M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Zilano
What diameter is your primary coil 6many turns&1A7$
and how many turns$ ?/$
Which way to wind primary cc or ccw or doesn't it matter$
1ow many turns is your secondary coil$
( turns cc R ( turns ccw$$$
'han# you
,i-
inner 3[ coil outer A[ coil diameter. = turns bifilar<=cwV=ccw> primary D0 turns. voltage fed
7kv@7000 volt. so voltage per turn in primary is70002D0@=0v per turn so it will not burn
insulation. see tesla is .ust a transformer that happens to be a resonant one. usually tesla coils r
step up so we can swap wires and dont worry abt insulation if we keep voltage per turn lesser
than A00 volts. it can be used as stepdown also. only u have to swap wires. when u using it as
step up the secondary has high voltage and insulation dont burn up so when u use it as a step
down it will handle high voltage input. b#t ma*e s#re primary and se!ondary
m#st 4ave distan!e greater t4an 4v voltage brea*do3n bet3een
t4em
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
,es I #now I'm wor#ing on conerting to parallel spar# gap. I hae to thin# of ways to do it. I will
probably hae to use two sets of coils to do this. 'han# you for all your help :ilano
,i drak-
# dont need 2 pairs o$ !oil !ombination5 # only need #r $lyab!* and
t4e step do3n5 3ot # @#st did 3it4 #r b#lb5 *eep t4at as it is5 @#st
mat!4 rig4t !ap $or primary5 #se a variable !ap as # #sed in #r
earlier set#p5 and i$ t4at !aps !apa!ity is lo3 add parallel !ap a!ross
it5 #r $ly ba!* 4as 4ig4 $re+#en!y a! already5 so # dont need eCtra
pair o$ !oils5 @#st mat!4 !ap to primary and t4ats it5
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
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(#ote)
I was neer trying to get the perfect oltage by calculating the turns. I just wanted to blow up a ;
watt >=/ bulb with = watts of power. 0t least then I would #now I'm getting somewhere.
,i Drak-
dont loose hope. u will light a bulb ok. .ust follow wot i tell u. ok do this basic. make sec twice
thick of primary. and keep 30 turns for primary and ten turns for secondary and dont use bifilar.
ok try with single coil. when u get resonance u will be so happy.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
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(#ote)
O# I guess I am getting confused as to what you guys are referring to when you say bifilar. I always
thought bifilar meant wrapping 'WO wires, then connecting the end of wire two to the beginning of
wire one. OH do you mean wrap one single wire, and tap from the center of the one wire$
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1i Zilano
What would you recommend for ? awg 3= secondary wiring 5 turns 6thic# one7$
3it: wire$ -opper tubing$
@ecause of the Bs#in effectB copper tubing wor#s well. Een better is siler plated copper stranded
teflon cable.
9apanad:e used a copper tubing for his 3= heay secondary. It wor#ed for 9apanad:e$
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-l %ir!#its Eand Pass Filter Ftention"!
6. *hen analyBing a filterS our primary interest is in determining the
maximum value of 0 and the value of the cutoff fre%uency <or
frequencies>.
3. &he maximum load voltage for an H- low/pass filter occurs when fin @
0 ,B. "t is found from S where H8 is the filter resistor.
A. &he value of 0<max> for an H- low/pass filter is always less than unity
<6>. "t can be found from .
7. &he process for determining the cutoff frequency of an H- low/pass
filter is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.6=.
=. ) bode plot is a normaliBed graph that represents frequency response as
a change in voltage gain <0> versus operating frequency.
1. ) bode plot is an ideal plot of frequency responseS because it assumes
that gain remains constant until the cutoff frequency is reached. <See
;igure 6=.64.>
4. &he advantage in using a bode plot is that only the value of the cutoff
frequency varies from one filter to another of the same type.
D. &he cutoff frequency of a given filter is commonly referred to as the D
d@ point or D d@ fre%uency.
8. &he roll4off rate of a filter is the rate of change in gain experienced by
the circuit when operated outside of its frequency limitS normally
expressed in d! per octae or d! per decade.
60. ) roll/off rate of 1 d! per octave equals a roll/off rate of 30 d!
per decade.
66. )ll low/pass H- filters experience the same 1 d! per octave <30
d! per decade> roll/off rates. &he rates are independent of the values of
H and -.
63. &he gain and frequency calculations for an H3 low/pass filter are
slightly different from those of the H- low/pass filter. ,oweverS all the
concepts relating to response curvesS bode plotsS and roll4off rates are
the same.
6A. &he process used to determine the cutoff frequency of an H3 low/
pass filter is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.61.
67. 1igh4pass filters are formed by reversing the positions of the
resistive and reactive components in H- and H3 low/pass filters.
6=. )n H- high/pass filter and response curve are shown in ;igure
6=.33.
61. &he value of 0<max> for an H- high/pass filter is approximately
equal to one <6>.
64. &he process used to determine the cutoff frequency of an H- high/
6D. &he bode plot for a high/pass filter is simply a mirror image of the
plot for a low/pass filter.
68. &he analysis of an H- high/pass filter is demonstrated in 'xample
6=.64.
30. &he process used to determine the cutoff frequency of an H3 high/
pass filter is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.6D.
36. &he most common passive bandpass and notch filters are 3-
filters.
33. &he operation of a series 3- bandpass filter is based on the
relationship between its input frequency and its resonant frequency9 ìn
@ `r . a2!ba2!b)t resonance V" 0 so I' @ A"2H3. &he circuit is
resistive and the phase angle is 0O. ìn a2!ba `r . a2!b!elow
resonanceS V" is capacitive and has a negative phase angle. V" increases
and gets more negative as ìna2!b decreases. ìn a2!bb `r .
a2!b)bove resonance V" is inductive and has a positive phase angle.
V" increases and gets more positive as ìn a2!bincreases.
3A. &he operation of a shunt 3- bandpass filter is based on the
relationship between its input frequency and its resonant frequency as
follows9 ìna2!b @ `rW&@N . *hen the circuit is operating at resonanceS
I3 @ I-S and VP approaches infinity. )s a resultS the filter is effectively
removed from the circuit and &he circuit is resistive and the phase
angle is 0O. ìna2!b a `ra2!b. a2!b!elow resonanceS V3 decreases
until at 0 ,B it effectively shorts out the load and A3 @ 0 +. ìna2!b b
`ra2!b . )bove resonanceS V- decreases. )s ìna2!b continues to
increaseS V- approaches 0 S shorting out the load. Once againS A3 0 +.
37. &he Q of a filter is approximately equal to <or less than> the Q of
its inductor.
3=. &he loaded Q <Q3> of a filter is the quality of the circuit when a
load is connected to its output terminals.
31. &he loaded Q of a filter is significantly lower than the unloaded Q
of the inductor.
34. &he process used to determine the bandwidth of a series 3-
bandpass filter is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.68.
3D. Once we know the bandwidth of a series 3- bandpass filterS we
can solve for the cutoff frequencies using the value of àve.
38. &he process used to determine the value of Q3for a shunt 3-
A0. ) series 3- notch filter can be constructed by placing a parallel
3- circuit in series with the source and the load.
A6. ) shunt 3- notch filter can be constructed by placing a series 3-
circuit in parallel with the source and the load.
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-l %ir!#its Eand Pass Filters Ftention"b
6. &he primary limitation on d! values is that they cannot be used in
circuit input2output calculations without being converted to standard
numeric form.
3. *hen filters <or amplifiers> are connected in seriesS they are said to be
cascaded.
A. 'ach filter <or amplifier> in a cascade is referred to as a stage.
7. &he d@m reference represents an actual power value. "t references a
power level to a constant of 6 m*.
=. &he ratio of circuit output voltage to input voltage is generally referred
to as oltage gain <0>.
1. &he voltage gain of a circuit equals 40.4c of its maximum value at the
cutoff frequencies. 'xpressed mathematically9 0 @ 0.404 0<max>
when ` @ `-. &his relationship is based on the fact that power gain
equals =0c of its maximum value when voltage gain equals 40.4c of
its maximum value.
4. &he d! voltage gain of a circuit is found as twenty times the common
log of 0. !y formula9
D. *hen d! power gain drops to =0c of its maximum valueS the change in
d! power gain is dA d!.
8. *hen d! voltage gain drops to 40.4c of its maximum valueS the
change in d! voltage gain is dA d!.
60. &he process for converting a d! voltage gain to standard numeric
value is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.67.
66. d! current gain principles are identical to those of d! voltage
gain.
63. *hen a capacitor <or other component> is connected from a signal
path to groundS it is referred to as a shunt component.
6A. *hen analyBing a filterS our primary interest is in determining the
maximum value of 0 and the value of the cutoff fre%uency <or
frequencies>.
67. &he maximum load voltage for an H- low/pass filter occurs when
fin @ 0 ,B. "t is found from S where H8 is the filter resistor.
6=. &he value of 0<max> for an H- low/pass filter is always less than
unity <6>. "t can be found from .
61. &he process for determining the cutoff frequency of an H- low/
pass filter is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.6=.
64. ) bode plot is a normaliBed graph that represents frequency
response as a change in voltage gain <0> versus operating frequency.
6D. ) bode plot is an ideal plot of frequency responseS because it
assumes that gain remains constant until the cutoff frequency is
reached. <See ;igure 6=.64.>
68. &he advantage in using a bode plot is that only the value of the
cutoff frequency varies from one filter to another of the same type.
30. &he cutoff frequency of a given filter is commonly referred to as
the D d@ point or D d@ fre%uency.
36. &he roll4off rate of a filter is the rate of change in gain
experienced by the circuit when operated outside of its frequency limitS
normally expressed in d! per octae or d! per decade.
33. ) roll/off rate of 1 d! per octave equals a roll/off rate of 30 d!
per decade.
3A. )ll low/pass H- filters experience the same 1 d! per octave <30
d! per decade> roll/off rates. &he rates are independent of the values of
H and -.
37. &he gain and frequency calculations for an H3 low/pass filter are
slightly different from those of the H- low/pass filter. ,oweverS all the
concepts relating to response curvesS bode plotsS and roll4off rates are
the same.
3=. &he process used to determine the cutoff frequency of an H3 low/
31. 1igh4pass filters are formed by reversing the positions of the
resistive and reactive components in H- and H3 low/pass filters.
34. )n H- high/pass filter and response curve are shown in ;igure
6=.33.
3D. &he value of 0<max> for an H- high/pass filter is approximately
equal to one <6>.
38. &he process used to determine the cutoff frequency of an H- high/
A0. &he bode plot for a high/pass filter is simply a mirror image of the
plot for a low/pass filter.
A6. &he analysis of an H- high/pass filter is demonstrated in 'xample
6=.64.
A3. &he process used to determine the cutoff frequency of an H3 high/
pass filter is demonstrated in 'xample 6=.6D.
AA. &he most common passive bandpass and notch filters are 3-
filters.
A7. &he operation of a series 3- bandpass filter is based on the
relationship between its input frequency and its resonant frequency9 ìn
@ `r . a2!ba2!b)t resonance V" 0 so I' @ A"2H3. &he circuit is
resistive and the phase angle is 0O. ìn a2!ba `r . a2!b!elow
resonanceS V" is capacitive and has a negative phase angle. V" increases
and gets more negative as ìna2!b decreases. ìn a2!bb `r .
a2!b)bove resonance V" is inductive and has a positive phase angle.
V" increases and gets more positive as ìn a2!bincreases.
A=. &he operation of a shunt 3- bandpass filter is based on the
relationship between its input frequency and its resonant frequency as
follows9 ìna2!b @ `rW&@N . *hen the circuit is operating at resonanceS
I3 @ I-S and VP approaches infinity. )s a resultS the filter is effectively
removed from the circuit and &he circuit is resistive and the phase
angle is 0O. ìna2!b a `ra2!b. a2!b!elow resonanceS V3 decreases
until at 0 ,B it effectively shorts out the load and A3 @ 0 +. ìna2!b b
`ra2!b . )bove resonanceS V- decreases. )s ìna2!b continues to
increaseS V- approaches 0 S shorting out the load. Once againS A3 0 +.
A1. &he Q of a filter is approximately equal to <or less than> the Q of
its inductor.
A4. &he loaded Q <Q3> of a filter is the quality of the circuit when a
load is connected to its output terminals.
AD. &he loaded Q of a filter is significantly lower than the unloaded Q
of the inductor.
A8. &he process used to determine the bandwidth of a series 3-
70. Once we know the bandwidth of a series 3- bandpass filterS we
can solve for the cutoff frequencies using the value of àve.
76. &he process used to determine the value of Q3for a shunt 3-
73. ) series 3- notch filter can be constructed by placing a parallel
3- circuit in series with the source and the load.
7A. ) shunt 3- notch filter can be constructed by placing a series 3-
circuit in parallel with the source and the load.
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-l %ir!#its Eand Pass Filters Ftension"a
Frequency Response and Passive Filters
The following summarizes the major points made in Chapter 15:
6. Signal loss caused by the frequency response of a circuit is
referred to as attenuation.
2.Attenuation is normally described using the ratio of a circuit's
output amplitude to its input amplitude. In most cases, a power
ratio is used.
A. The frequency at which the power ratio of a circuit drops to 5!
of its ma"imum #alue is referred to as the cutoff frequency $%C&.
7. Filters are circuits that are designed for specific frequency
response characteristics.
=. There are four basic types of filters. The low-pass filter is
designed to pass all frequencies below its cutoff frequency. The
high-pass filter is designed to pass all frequencies abo#e its
cutoff frequency. The bandpass filter is one designed to pass the
band of frequencies that lies between two cutoff frequencies. The
band-stop $or notch& filter is designed to bloc' the band of
frequencies that lies between two cutoff frequencies. The basic
frequency response cur#es for these filters are shown in (igure
)5.*.
1. The cutoff frequencies of a bandpass $or notch& filter are referred
to as the lower cutoff frequency $%C)& and the upper cutoff
frequency $%C2&.
4. +ecause bandpass and notch filters ha#e two cutoff frequencies,
there are two #alues that are not commonly applied to the low,
pass and high,pass filters used to describe their operation-
bandwidth and center frequency.
..The bandwidth of a filter is the range $or band& of frequencies
between its cutoff frequencies.
8. The bandwidth of a filter equals the difference between the cutoff
frequencies.
60. The center frequency $%& of a filter is the geometric
a#erage of the cutoff frequencies. +y formula
66. The ratio of %C2 to % equals the ratio of % to %C).
)2. /ow,pass filters are normally described using their cutoff
frequencies. 0"ample1 A low,pass filter with a ) '23 cutoff
frequency.
)*. +andpass and notch filters are normally described in terms
of bandwidth and center frequency. 0"ample1 A 2 '23 bandpass
filter with a )5 '23 center frequency.
67. The quality $& of a bandpass or notch filter equals the ratio
of its center frequency to its bandwidth. +y formula1 .
6=. The #alue of filter actually depends on circuit component
#alues. The bandwidth of a filter depends on the #alues of center
frequency and .
61. The a!erage frequency $%a#e& of a filter lies halfway
between its cutoff frequencies. This frequency is used in
con4unction with the circuit bandwidth to determine the #alues of
the cutoff frequencies.
64. 5hen 6 2, the #alues of % and %a#e for the filter are
appro"imately equal. 5hen 7 2, the #alue of %a#e can be
found as demonstrated in 0"ample )5.8.
6D. (requency response cur#es normally use logarithmic
frequency scales. The #alue of each increment on a logarithmic
scale is a whole number multiple of the pre#ious increment. An
octa!e scale uses a frequency multiplier of 2 between
increments. A decade scale uses a frequency multiplier of )
between increments.
68. The ratio of circuit output amplitude to input amplitude is
normally e"pressed using decibels $d+&. 9ecibels are used
because they allow us to easily represent #ery large and #ery
small #alues.
30. The ratio of output power to input power for a component or
circuit is commonly referred to as power gain $Ap&. The word
gain is used in reference to amplifiers, which can increase the
power le#el of an ac input signal.
2). :assi#e filters all ha#e power gains that are less than one
$)&.
33. The term unity gain is commonly used to refer to a #alue of
Ap ; ).
3A. The bel representation of a #alue indicates the power of )
that equals the ratio. 0"pressed mathematically1 If log) $y& ; ",
then )" ; y.
37. The bel representation of a number is positi#e when Ap < ),
3ero when Ap ; ) $unity gain&, and negati#e when Ap 7 ).
3=. =eciprocals ha#e equal,magnitude positi#e and negati#e bel
#alues. 0"pressed mathematically1 If log) $y& ; ", then .
31. At some point, the industry switched from bels to tenths of
bels, or decibels $d+&.
2>. There are ) decibels $d+& in one bel $+&. Therefore, d+
power gain is found as ten times the common log of the power
ratio.
2.. The d+ power gain of a circuit is found from .
2?. :ower gain $in d+& is con#erted to standard numeric form as
demonstrated in 0"ample )5.).
*. 9ecibel representations of gain are used because a #ery
large range of #alues can be represented using relati#ely small
numbers and because the total gain produced by series filters
and@or amplifiers can be determined using simple addition.
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A#g5 1:, 2011
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(#ote)
:ilano,
O#, I thin# I understand now. I was always putting my spar# gap in series. I
tried putting it in parallel and got no spar#. 'he capacitor will neer
charge to a high enough oltage to spar# because the energy is being
consumed by the coil. "ooo, I'm guessing the fre%uency that charges the
capacitor must be same as the resonant fre%uency of the 3- therefore the
coil will not accept the energy as well and will be dumped into the
capacitor. I thin# that is what I was doing wrong. 0nd that is why you are
saying charge your cap with sine wae$
h" dR)5-
# :O& "&.thats wot i meant. spark wont fire if u dont get resonance for
$6 right. when its resonating spark will fire automatically. !#& DO%&
R'O+' D"OD' "% &,' "%(#& "&S &O S)+' #R ;$?)!C5 CO"$
*"&, ,":, +O$&):' ;$)S, !)C5.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
parallel ,- %I-%&I0 F0'/SIO/
h" ;O$5S-
Resistive-Inductive (RL) Circuits
Summary
The following summarizes the major points made in Chapter 11:
6. A resisti!e-inducti!e $#$& circuit is one that contains any
combination of resistors and inductors.
3. Bany #alues in resisti#e,reacti#e circuits must be added as
phasor quantities. +ecause the component #oltages in an #$
circuit are at ?C angles, geometric addition must be used to add
two or more phasor quantities. (or two phasors $a and b& at ?
degree angles, the geometric sum of the phasors $c& is found as .
A. In a series #$ circuit the source #oltage equals the geometric
sum of the resisti#e and reacti#e #oltages and the total
impedance equals the geometric sum of resistance and
reactance.
7. The #alues of source #oltage and total impedance in a series #$
circuit each ha#e a phase angle that is normally e"pressed as
part of the #alue.
=. Inductor #oltage leads resistor #oltage by ?C in a series #$
circuit.
1. The source phase angle $& is the phase difference between the
source #oltage and the circuit current. Doltage leads current in a
series #$ circuit. The source phase angle falls within the limits of
C 7 7 ?C.
4. Since circuit current is in phase with resistor #oltage, can be
measured by measuring the phase difference between %& and
%#.
D. The total impedance in a series #$ circuit equals the geometric
sum of '$ and #. +y formula
8. The impedance phase angle in a series #$ circuit equals the
#oltage phase angle. +y formula
60. (nducti!e reactance leads circuit current by ?C in a series
#$ circuit.
66. In a series #$ circuit we can calculate the component
#oltages using a #oltage,di#ider relationship, but the phase
angles must always be ta'en into account.
63. The term frequency response is used to describe any
changes that occur in a circuit as a result of a change in
operating frequency. The responses of a series #$ circuit to an
increase in operating frequency are listed in Table )).2. The
responses of a series #$ circuit to a decrease in operating
frequency are described immediately following the table.
6A. In any resisti#e,reacti#e circuit, resisti#e power is measured
in watts. )# is the power that is actually dissipated in the circuit.
=eacti#e power is measured in #olt,amperes,reacti#e $DA=& and
apparent power is measured in #olt,amperes $DA&.
67. The effect of inductor winding resistance $#w& on the #alue
of apparent power is usually negligible.
6=. *pparent power leads the circuit current in a series #$
circuit.
61. The power factor for a series #$ circuit is the ratio of
resisti#e power to apparent power. +y formula . The power factor
can also be found as the cosine of the phase angle. +y formula
)F ; cos .
64. A parallel #$ circuit is one that contains one or more
resistors in parallel with one or more inductors, each branch
containing only one component.
6D. In a parallel #$ circuit, the total circuit current equals the
geometric sum of the currents through the resistance and the
reacti#e branches, by formula . The inductor current lags the
source #oltage by ?C and the resistor current is in phase with
the circuit #oltage.
68. The current phase angle $& in a parallel #$ circuit is the
phase difference between (T and %&. +y formula . +ecause
#oltage is assumed to ha#e an angle of C in a parallel circuit, the
current phase angle is always negati#e. (or a parallel #$ circuit,
the current phase angle $relati#e to the source #oltage& has limits
of E?C 7 7 C.
30. The product-o!er-sum method for calculating total
impedance is preferred for parallel #$ circuits. $The geometric
sum of +$ and # is used in the denominator.&
36. The impedance phase angle in a parallel #$ circuit is
always the negati#e equi#alent of the current phase angle.
33. The impedance phase angles for series and parallel #$
circuits are calculated using reciprocal fractions, as follows1
3A. The responses of a parallel #$ circuit to an increase in
operating frequency can be summari3ed as follows1 5hen f
increases, '$ increases, which causes ($ and to decrease. The
decrease in ($ causes (T to decrease, which means that ,T
increases.
2F. Analy3ing a series,parallel circuit is simply a matter of
combining series components according to the rules of series
circuits and combining parallel components according to the
rules of parallel circuits.
25. The analysis of a series,parallel circuit with resisti#e and
reacti#e components gets a bit complicated because of the
phase angles in#ol#ed. Geometric addition is used to determine
the sum of two phasors that are at ?C angles. =ectangular
notation is used when adding two phasors that are at any angle
other than ?C $or C&.
28. To add two phasors that are at angles other than ?C $or C&,
you should con#ert both phasors to rectangular form, add the two
rectangular #alues, and con#ert the result bac' to polar form $if
needed&.
34. 5hen the total impedance of a parallel #$ circuit is
con#erted to rectangular form, the new #alue is the series
equi#alent of the parallel impedance networ'.
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A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
,r %ir!#its And Fre+#en!y Eand
R$ circuit
($')S' R')D &,' R'D &'Z& !'$O*

Series R$ circuit
&his shows thatS if the output is taken across the inductorS high frequencies are passed and low
frequencies are attenuated <re.ected>. &husS the circuit behaves as a high4pass filter. "fS thoughS the
output is taken across the resistorS high frequencies are re.ected and low frequencies are passed. "n this
configurationS the circuit behaves as a low4pass filter. Compare this with the behaviour of the resistor
output in an RC circuitS where the reverse is the case.
&he range of frequencies that the filter passes is called its bandwidth. &he point at which the filter
attenuates the signal to half its unfiltered power is termed its cutoff frequency. &his requires that the
gain of the circuit be reduced to
(arallel circuit&his section requires expansion.

(arallel R$ circuit
&he parallel R$ circuit is generally of less interest than the series circuit unless fed by a current source.
&his is largely because the output voltage Aout is equal to the input voltage Ain e as a resultS this
circuit does not act as a filter for a voltage input signal.
*ith complex impedances9
and
.&his shows that the inductor lags the resistor <and source> current by 80O.
&he parallel circuit is seen on the output of many amplifier circuitsS and is used to isolate the amplifier
from capacitive loading effects at high frequencies.
also important. parallel R$ circuit demo practical
http922www.wisc/online.com2ob.ects2+iewOb.ect.aspxU"D@)C'60A07
R':)RDS
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
Spar* 2ap Position .ery Important <#st -ead
h" ;O$5S-
#S& R')D
very important
the position of spark gap in my circuit is important. dont use spark gap in series. caps must be parallel
with primary and a spark gap in parallel before $C combination. if u change spark gap position all u
will be getting induction power which is always under unity and we dont want that. so keep spark gap
as shown in above figure. veryyyyyyyyy important.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
'he bifilar is it center tapped to ground 6per your drawing below7$
Is the bifilar li#e the diagram below where 5 turns from center are lower half --W and upper half
are -W 5 turns$
Is there any adantage in using copper tubing for the bifilar windings s stranded wire s solid
copper wire$
-heers *i#e
,i ike-
very important
t4e position o$ spar* gap in my !ir!#it is important5 dont #se spar*
gap in series5 !aps m#st be parallel 3it4 primary and a spar* gap in
parallel be$ore ,% !ombination5 i$ # !4ange spar* gap position all #
3ill be getting ind#!tion po3er 34i!4 is al3ays #nder #nity and 3e
dont 3ant t4at5 so *eep spar* gap as s4o3n in above $ig#re5
veryyyyyyyyy important!!!
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1ere is a strange transformer with flat windings2
tesla coil, primary inductor, copper wire base, wraps, taps
I was always fascinated by Don's lectures and writings where his says his little table top
coils&caps&resistors setup produces D/#w to =//#w of output to megawatts for country si:e units. "o
its all about the secondary wire si:e to being able to ta#e the amps. Interesting indeed.
-heers *i#e
,i mike-
the flat panel good for tesla hv spark stuff. but for power u need not that.
its whopping more wot u need. see the awg chart i have uploaded in one
of my posts. and consider wire with amps n frequency in the chart. the
standard chart provides amps but not frequency handling capabilities. get
the chart with amps n frequency ratings for proper coiling. but its not
necessary. u can use any copper the basic is. $6 <thin one> is half
diameter of $3<thick one>
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
@y thic# do you mean li#e a copper tube or large diameter N = awg copper cable$
I li#e your >/#w design so I would li#e to e!periment with a secondary that can ta#e 5/4>// amps to
connect to my house ;/h: =(/&>=/ split phase >// amp panel.
-heers *i#e
,i mike-
solid copper thick coil. dont use hollow copper. think a
transformer<induction> and make it tesla<resonance>. i made a
transformer and made it to resonate like tesla coil.
consider how many amps u want in the output. and choose copper wire
accordingly. if u need = amps. =x660@==0 watts or =x630@100 watts. or
330x=@6600watts
etc. hope u get my point- use wire according to amperage handling
capabilities of the wire.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
,es, Don "mith tal#ed about using the magnetic end of the E* field to create the BampsB and he also
showed that 'esla diagram of the bifilar cw&ccw coil with center tap.
In the 9apanad:e photos of his secondary air coil it doesn't show this center tapped bifilar
secondary. Was his system under4producing in electrical output$
-heers *i#e
,i mike-
a single coil can also produce amperage too. kapanadBe single coil also
produced it. we use bifilar so we can control voltage and amps or reduce
voltage and amps by increasing cw or ccw turns using something like a
rheostat combination. u can use single coil but make it thick.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
'he bifilar is it center tapped to ground 6per your drawing below7$
Is the bifilar li#e the diagram below where 5 turns from center are lower half --W and upper half
are -W 5 turns$
Is there any adantage in using copper tubing for the bifilar windings s stranded wire s solid
copper wire$
-heers *i#e
,i mike-
yes diagram is correct. copper is good conductor of electricity
alluminium is 3nd to copper. its better to use solid copper rather than
stranded. but stranded can be used.bifilar contains two things one is
voltage and other is amps here we combine both and use for our benefit.
if u can afford barker and williams coil that option is better. cos they
have high mutual inductance. here we overcome this mutual inductance
factor by using copper coated welding rods a cheap substitute to ferrite
toroidal core. in case of ferrite toroidal core we cant change the the q
factor but using copper coated ferrite rods we can by increasing and
reducing rods.it doesnt matter wot way u wind ccw and cw coils wot
matters is we combine the ends and take output from combined end and
centre of bifilar. yes bifilar centre tapped grounded.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
'han#s Zilano, I can get some >( 0WG G'O4>5# cable
4 Is the ?/ turns all in one direction$
4 8or the 5 turns secondary air coil, is >&(B 6;.D5mm7 copper tubing o#ay$
4 "paced ;.D5mm apart$ Or can be closer$ I guess can get as close as the =5/ A air brea#down
oltage 6=(/ac output7$
-heers *i#e
,i mike-
coil D0 turns cw. coil = turns is a bifilar<cw=Sccw= turns>. 3=0 v
hf.rectified with in 7004 or higher combination. coil primary 3[ and sec
A[. with 7 turns per inch secondary bifilar.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
Simplest %4eapest 'nergy %ir!#it!
h" ;O$5S -
%1'AP'S0 SO,&0IO/!
PI% A00A%1'D
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
'han#s Zilano
8or the ?? turns primary air coil do you use neon sign 1A wire, for the input from (#A from the
)"'$ Wire insulation needs to be rated at least (#A$
-heers *i#e
," mike-
yes its not DD turns its D0. sorry for crude pic. yes insulation =k will
work fine.
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i Zilano
1ere is the schematics on that )"', PA*(//2
http2&&www.ama:ing>.com&download&PA*...-"-1E*0'I-.pdf
Do not see any G8I.
'han#s again you for your help and in sharing your fascinating insight to 'esla's&Don "mith's
resonant electrical energy technology. 9eep up the good wor#C
-heers *i#e
," ike -
t4is 3ill 3or*5
regards
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Where would I be using the sine wae at$ It was my understanding that when the spar# happens the
capacitors drain to the coil then bounce bac# to the caps and then bac# to the coils etc at a certain
fre%uency, the resonant fre%uency, until the energy is dissipated. 0t that point the spar# bridge goes
away only to be started again once the caps get charged again by your )"' or fly bac# or whateer
you are using to charge the caps. "o a sine wae is automatic. Or are you tal#ing about a sine wae
to charge the caps from your )"' or fly bac#$ Does it matter how you charge those caps as long as
they get charged fast enough to #eep a steady stream of spar#s$
>;D=2 Hadio 80Q Part > RmdashP "par# and -rystal
Well, my latest coils, not much more results. >/ gauge outer secondary == gauge inner primary.
,i drak-
try all#mini#m t4i!* 3ire t4e !oil m#st be t4i!*er5 #r o#ter !oil is
t4in still5 b#t try 3it4 t4is $irst and #se !opper !oated 3elding rods5
and # 3ill $ind t4e great improvement5 ma*e s#re resonan!e
4appens5 34en # add 3elding rods !oil ind#!tan!e 3ill !4ange and #
need to ad@#st resonan!e 3it4 !aps in primary and se!ondary
a!!ordingly5 b#t res#lt 3ill be best5 34en # dont 4ave resonan!e
3or*ing 3ell res#lts 3ill be lo3 and r @#st based on ind#!tion and
t4ats 3ot 3e dont 3ant5 3e 3ant resonan!e give #s t4e res#lts5
A#g5 1:, 2011
.rand
(#ote)
hI *I9EC
)"' + Q+O'ED O) P0GE WI33 WOH9 8I)E.if they dont hae gfi6ground fault interruptor7 not
built in. co: wheneer u earth it it will go off and trip in don smith circuits. thats why i made it on my
own. without gfi.
regards
:ilano :eis :ane
,i Wilano
,ere is the schematics on that %S&S (+7009
http922www.amaBing6.com2download2(+...CSC,')&"C.pdf
&here is a ground connectionS would this be a :;"U
&hanks again you for your help and in sharing your fascinating insight to
&esla\s2Don Smith\s resonant electrical energy technology. 5eep up the
good work-
Cheers ike
A#g5 1:, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
8or those building their own (#, D5#1: )"' drier using a 8lybac# here some info on conerting
one from an old >.</'s @&W 'A2
8lybac# Drier
POWEH30@"' 1igh Aoltage "olid "tate 8lybac# Drier
1i Zilano
'he aboe 8lybac# drier is close to your flybac# design. Would an off4the4shelf adjustable /4=/#A,
>54D5#h: wor# in your design$
1ere is one from the popular Information +nlimited website2
)eon 'ransformers, )eon Power "upplies
If this )"' would not wor#, do you recommend one that would wor#$
'hose old '</'s flybac#s are getting impossible to find.
-heers *i#e
h" "5'-
%S& # Y#O&'D O% ():' *"$$ *OR5 ;"%'.if they dont have
gfi<ground fault interruptor> not built in. coB whenever u earth it it will
go off and trip in don smith circuits. thats why i made it on my own.
without gfi.
regards
A#g5 17, 2011
ilano
1i $ol*s!
tesla step do3n arrangement5
pi! atta!4ed5
primary t4in more t#rns(ad@#st ratio o$ #r 4v inp#t voltage 3it4 no o$
t#rns and voltage per t#rn in primary in a!!ordan!e 3it4 o#tp#t voltage
in se!ondary)5
$ollo3 t4is $or se!ondary !oil to get amps and lo3 voltage5more t4i!*er
more amps5less t4i!*er less amps5 more t#rns 4ig4 voltage5 less t#rns lo3
voltage5
maintain resonan!e a m#st $or @#i!e
$pH$s
$pH$re+#en!y primary
$sH$re+#en!y se!ondary
*eep $re+#en!y in t4e range o$ 67*485 $re+#en!ies $rom 1"20*48 give #
less @#i!e5
regards
A#g5 1D, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by <onsie#r<
'here is a method i use to find information, and most of you #now it, and that is triangulation, so far
you hae gien one clue, i need two more and i'll hae a clearer picture...so I'll be patient, do some
research, and mostly wait to see what you will be posting Z....
h" &,'R'- # )$$ ,)+' "& *"&, #- !#& &,"%5 *"S'$?S
_#D"C"O#S$?S (#& #R *,O$' ,')R& &O "& )%D # *"$$ ,)+'
"& )%D # *"$$ S)? )*** " 5%'* &,)& "&S SO ')S?-
goodluck to all
cya soon with ur progress-
:od bless u all
,ope u make Dons dream come true-
regards
and thanks for ur support-
A#g5 1D, 2011
ilano
"ecret-#onstrucion
,i folks-
:reetings-
learn more-
sycret/konstrucion
cirkuit attached-
regards
W"$)%O W'"S W)%'-
A#g5 1D, 2011
ilano
!rystal radio! t4in* 4ard!
,i folks-
presenting-
crystal radio- imagine the possibilities. read more.... google and get aquanted-
=0 hB and 10 hB
pic attached.
regards
A#g5 1D, 2011
ilano
greenboC *apanad8e alias don smit4
,i folks-
ne3 arrangement pi! atta!4ed
m#st vie3! #pdated5
regards
A#g5 1D, 2011
ilano
Don Smit4 .s ?apanad8e %ir!#it
hi folks-
don smit4 vs ?apanad8e5
see *apanad8e !oil(greenboC) is same as don :A !oilH:t#rns
see #rsel$
pi! atta!4ed
regards
Bilano Beis Bane
A#g5 16, 2011
ilano
-esonan!e Is -eal P4enomena
A#g5 16, 2011
ilano
1i $ol*s!
t4e - ta*es t4e toll 34en $re+#en!y is lo3 and , ta*es t4e toll
34en $re+#en!y is 4ig4! t4ats all i *no3 and maybe t4e
di$$eren!e 3or*s $or me so5
regards
A#g5 16, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Well, I did the reerse tesla coil, and now the output oltage is (5/ and i'm getting a slight glow out
of a >=/ ;watt bulb, which is better then I was getting before 1oweer I don't hae the capacitors
to bring my coils down to D5#h:. I could only get them down to D?5#h:. Would building a bigger coil
help or would I hae to throw more input to it$, I was only throwing >=.; .D/amps at it and pulsing
the flybac# with about 5.?#h: dc 5/X duty load. "till playing.
,i Drak-
if u use any thicker wire. or even a thick alluminium rod or coil. u will
get more amps. its not necessary we .ust use copper coil. alluminium can
be used for test purposes. the bad thing abt alluminium is that it oxidises
fast and contacts loosening happens.
reduce turns in secondary and make it thick as much u can afford and u
will light a bright bulb.
also u can use 627 turn of coil as output and ur voltage will be low and
not 7=0v use output coil as a rheostat so u get 660 or 630 volts.
but make thick so u have more amps.
dont worry abt frequency keep it as it is. and dont use cap it will increase
voltage.
congrtats- u r learning well- see attachment
maintain resonance. keep this frequency. increase input.
regards
Bilano Beis Bane-
resonance musik
play it one-
A#g5 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by 3ebm#g
1i thereC
1ow do you guys ground these setups on the output side$
+sing a e!tra grounding rod$ Don shows a diodecapacitor to #eep the oltage on the output high,
any e!periences with this$
I'm still thin#ing not using a spar#gap but a sa to #eep oltage and currents at a usable ma!imum on
the primairy coil. 0 sg generates more power but with these amplifications on power output it seems
to me that we could do with less output.. >5/watt input and >/#w output... Pff if i can fry potatos i'm
already happy
0lso should the power cap ban# be of a specific type$
@r,
Webmug
,i webmug-
:rounding is necessary. two grounds are needed one at spark gap and other in the output side.
spark plays a vital role as all $re+#en!ies eCist at spar* gap and it 4as to
be t#ned also by varying t4e gap so it mat!4es t4e $re+#en!y o$ #r
nst(i$ solid state or tesla trans$omer) view my crude drawing circuit in one of my
posts.it has 3 earths.
keep hv low in range of 3kv or 6.= kv. suppose u have 3kv@3000 volts and u need 630 volt out
then 30002=0@70 volts per turn in primary and make secondary A turns. means 70v x A@630
volts. its better u decide ur transformer input n output and work accordingly.
make primary thin<high impedance> and secondary thick for more amps.<low impedance> so u
can test amps using a load in raw ac hf power. u can also use same coils but power will be less.
i have no idea wot u been thinking may be u have better idea without spark gap. try it.
A#g5 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by mr5!lean
ery cool, yes im trying all different combinations
,i 5urt-
#se an -F(radio $re+#en!y !oil) or slide a $errite t#be on bot4 limbs
o$ #r d! o#tp#t5 t4ats is negative(") $eed and positive $eed(A) t4en
meas#re amps t4en #r meter 3ont go berser*! 3ill give # stabili8ed
meas#rements t4o#g4 not $#lly b#t 3#d be more stable5 better t4an
# 4ave no35
A#g5 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Wow buddy, cant wait to see that monster in action
,i 5urt-
mine is .ust 60 kw 3A0/3=0v ac sinewave. but urB seem to be 6Dkw unit. so urB is a monster-
reverse tesla helps u to scale down voltage. try lower voltage else its gonna be hard to manage
high voltage output. first try the don 1kw output.
important!) t#ne #r spar* gaps so # get smoot4 $lo3 o#t5 gap is
important5 its also a t#nning $a!tor in don smit4 !ir!#its5 inp#t n
o#tp#t spar* gaps m#st be t#ned so # get smoot4 o#tp#t not t4e
intermittant one5 i sa3 #r b#lb $li!*ering means # need $ine t#ne t4e
gap5 #se s!re3 and #ns!re3 le$t n rig4t and !entre $iCed peg5
A#g5 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
,es, im not yet set on one or the other #ind of primary, i li#e the idea of a heay gauge wire, but hae
just had better results with the thinner high turn primary.
@ut i'll be able to tell een better with the @RW coils that should be here soon. I can tell the din#y
copper tubing is holding bac# a lot of induction.
I loo# forward to your progress. any ids$
1i *#rt!
i 4avent made any vids till no35 i 3ant people to strive and learn and
#se brains $irst5 !o8 i$ # give *no3ledge as a t4ro3a3ay repli!ators
!an repli!ate easily b#t t4ey 3ont *no3 t4e idea and t4e basi!
be4ind t4e dons te!4nology5 let people learn5 give t4em *no3ledge5
b#t let people try it $irst t4emselves5 i 3ill be posting vids also b#t
t4is is not rig4t time5 lets see no no members repli!ate 3it4
*no3ledge gained on 4ere5lets see some progress !
t4o#g4 i 4ave posted my !r#de !ir!#it5 my $irst attempt !ir!#it
34i!4 gave 270 v d! 257 *3 o#tp#t 3it4 12 volt 120 3att inp#t on
4ere5 i $ine t#ned it and s!aled #p to 10 *3 260"270 a! 70 48
A#g5 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
,es, im not yet set on one or the other #ind of primary, i li#e the idea of a heay gauge wire, but hae
just had better results with the thinner high turn primary.
@ut i'll be able to tell een better with the @RW coils that should be here soon. I can tell the din#y
copper tubing is holding bac# a lot of induction.
I loo# forward to your progress. any ids$
,i 5urt-
&o get overunity the input must be low<thin primary/high impedance>
and secondary output<low impedance> high amps. this is the magic
behind dons circuits. but don never disclosed this magic trick. people
who saw dons designs made primary thick and secondary thin they had
failures in output power. underunity. or unity. i call this R'+'RS'
&'S$) CO"$. )5' primary as secondary and secondary as primary.
kapanadse got this idea and u can see his green box coil is based on don
circuit. see my attachment in one of my posts dons smith pdf dated 6887
bottom circuit. the 1) coil 1 turns is same as dons circuit.
A#g5 12, 2011
<r5 %lean
Don Smit4 repli!ation
Yuote9
hI *H.-3E0)C
u r using reerse tesla concept4thin primary more turns and thic# sec less turns. don neer mentioned
it. but its the only way to free power.
regards
:ilano :eis :aneC
?esS im not yet set on one or the other kind of primaryS i like the idea of
a heavy gauge wireS but have .ust had better results with the thinner high
turn primary.
!ut i\ll be able to tell even better with the !f* coils that should be here
soon. " can tell the dinky copper tubing is holding back a lot of
induction.
" look forward to your progress. any vidsU
A#g5 12, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
1i guys, loe the discussion.
i appreciate the reference to my ids.
I want to be clear that Im doing this build because Don had said himself that if we're interested in
this deice, R we wanted to actually see one in our lifetime...that we'd be better off building our own.
Don's credentials on top of his erbal recommendations...on top of his info, 0)D instruction, were
enough for me to at least try it.
"o far im enjoying the progress. 8rom no light at first, to being able to burn out bulbs is ery
e!citing.
Zilano, it seems you hae done a lot of study, cant wait to see what comes out of your wor#
h" R.C$')%-
04an*C $or reading my posts5 i 4ave it 3or*ing in my 4ome a 10 *3
devi!e5
260"270v sine3ave5 i did not #se 777 timer based nst5 i made it on my
o3n5 made to os!illate at 60 *485 a D*v po3er pa!* and t4en @#st did
step do3n5 am #sing it5
yo# are on t4e virge o$ a one step a3ay5 and # 3ill get it5 any more
+#eries 3el!ome!
i posted #r progress 3it4o#t #r *no3ledge sorry abt t4at5 i tried to
!onta!t ya b#t $ailed !o8 google didnt let me5 4ere i never sa3 #
online5 am glad # are 4ere ! !ongrats on #r progress!
may 2od bless # al3ays!
good 3is4es $rom my side!
# r #sing reverse tesla !on!ept"t4in primary more t#rns and t4i!*
se! less t#rns5 don never mentioned it5 b#t its t4e only 3ay to $ree
po3er5
A#g5 12, 2011
<r5 %lean
Don Smit4 by <r!lean
Yuote9
hI PennoC
than#s for the support. dont worry am not dettered easily. #nowledge must be shared. and i will #eep
sharing. #eep posting. people who dont try say it cant be done. am of the thin#ing when it cant be
done then it must be done.
i neer loose hope. failures do happen but they ma#e u learn more.
edison tried >/// times for electric bulb why cant we$
regards
:ilano :eis :ane
,i guysS love the discussion.
i appreciate the reference to my vids.
" want to be clear that "m doing this build because Don had said himself
that if we\re interested in this deviceS f we wanted to actually see one in
our lifetime...that we\d be better off building our own.
Don\s credentials on top of his verbal recommendations...on top of his
infoS )%D instructionS were enough for me to at least try it.
So far im en.oying the progress. ;rom no light at firstS to being able to
burn out bulbs is very exciting.
WilanoS it seems you have done a lot of studyS cant wait to see what
comes out of your work
A#g5 12, 2011
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A#g5 11, 2011
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(#ote)
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A#g5 11, 2011
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A#g5 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I hae no problem with your spelling, i tolerate that some people consider it unimportant to erify
their spelling.
1onestly i don't care if you are right or wrong. What you suggest here has in my eyes nothing to do
with Don "mith. I am after high -OPs of D// li#e in the picture of the Don "mith deice that you
hae swapped the primary and secondary in to illustrate your energy BsaingB concept.
@ut good luc# with it.
h" &,'R'-
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A#g5 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by Goit
0ctually thats the other 'hing i miss, no real @ac#round there, just -astles in the 0ir, a lot
'"uggestions' what may some ta#e blind oer, in hope that there is something, but there will not be
anything.
'he 'heories what he sproad can anyone else put together, when he loo#s some closer at Don "mith
Deices, doesnt mean, that someone really has something, and what we now here got is more *ess
and *isinformations then anything.
'he only thing you really can do at Don "mith's Deices is, build it, tune it, Days or een Wee#s,
change the -oils, and -omponents and then you can show something, but not hypothetically shot in
the Dar# with any Informations what you can find, and hope someone do rebuild it.
0nd when you wanna hae really Informations about it, then the Informations what you allready can
download are actually enough.
,i there-
greetings-
see and believe it-
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A#g5 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by e3i8ard
Probably more li#e Italian and English is not his first language or maybe he's using a translator li#e
Google. If he has anything it's certainly not ma#ing any sense to me either. I don't thin# he's a bot or
spammer though and I doubt a disinfo agent either as his disinfo wouldn't fool anyone. I'm more
inclined to thin# he has something but can't clearly coney it. *aybe some pictures or ideo's well
done would clarify if there is anything here.
,i there-
greetings-
see and believe it
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A#g5 11, 2011
ilano
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A#g5 11, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I hae no problem with your spelling, i tolerate that some people consider it unimportant to erify
their spelling.
1onestly i don't care if you are right or wrong. What you suggest here has in my eyes nothing to do
with Don "mith. I am after high -OPs of D// li#e in the picture of the Don "mith deice that you
hae swapped the primary and secondary in to illustrate your energy BsaingB concept.
@ut good luc# with it.
,i the the basic key is resonance and the spark. until u have both
working u will have xcess energy always. and when u step down it
doesnt mean u r reducing power as its knownS at resonance resistance of
circuit is Bero so u have power available whether u step up or step down.
A#g5 10, 2011
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A#g5 10, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally Posted by dra*
???? Are $e still talking a%out t$o sets of coils? !r are you saying & only
need a primary and a secondary? Reverse the secondary? 'he secondary
is glued in place and no mater $hich $ay & flip it it is still $ound in the
same direction( & $as thinking & have an )*+), then another set of )*+),
$ith )* %eing the same as ), in the first set of coils and ), %eing the
same as )* in the first set( -ou are confusing me. lol( & appreciate your
help though(
1i t4ere!
3ot !oil # 4ave no3 # @#st need t4at only5 no anot4er set5 @#st s3ap
3ires o$ primary 3it4 se!ondary5means t3o 3ires o$ #r primary is
#r o#tp#t t4e s4orter !oil5 and t3o 3ires o$ #r long !oil t4at is o#ter
!oil be!omes #r primary5 and # 4ave step do3n instead o$ step #p5 #
dont 4ave to tear apart set#p5 let as it is @#st s3ap 3ires only54ope #
get me no35# 4ave ,1 and ,25 ,1 IS &- P-I<A-= A/D ,2 IS &-
S'%O/DA-=5 &S' >I-'S OF ,2 A/D %O//'%0 01'<
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>'-' %O//'%0'D5 SO & 1A.' A S0'P DO>/ <O-'
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general tesla !oil 4ave t4i!* primary o#ter !oil and t4in se!ondary
inner !oil5 reverse tesla means t4in long primary o#tside and t4i!*
s4ort se!ondary inside5 and #se it as step do3n trans$ormer5 means
4ig4 volts inp#t $rom #r nst in primary long !oil5 and o#tp#t is #r
s4ort t4i!* !oil5 p4ysi!al arrangement 3ill remain same
t4i!* inside and t4in o#tside dont !4ange t4at *eep as it is5 only
3ires r s3apped5
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A#g5 10, 2011
ilano
04e S4ortest >ay 0o S#!!ess 'asy >ay /o Spar*s /o 1ig4 0ension 0o <ention
h" this is Bilano Bane-
) %'* !R')5&,RO#:, in don
technology.
red#!e ele!tri!ity bills!
m#st read
a small s!ale demo set#p! !an be #ps!aled $or 4ome #se!
ta*e a 12 v 220 or 110 volt 1 amps step do3n trans$ormer 3it4 2 3ires
primary and 2 3ires se!ondary meas#re , o$ primary 3it4 l!r meter and
#se resonan!e !al!#lator to !al!#late !aps $or 70 or :0 485 #se t4is !ap
a!ross primary5 t4en !al!#late , o$ se!ondary 3it4 ,%- meter and #se
resonan!e !al! to get se!ondary !aps val#e $or se!ondary 70 or :0 485
no3 ta*e anot4er 12v 220 v or 12 v 110 v 1 amp trans$ormer5 $eed 12 v a!
to #r resonating trans$ormer 3it4 !aps to its primary it 3ill ma*e it
os!illate in resonan!e 3it4 se!ondary o$ resonating se!ondary 3it4 !aps5
atta!4 a 220 v or 110 v as #r trasn$ormer # r #sing atta!4 load5 meas#re
inp#t po3er and o#tp#t po3er and !al!#late gain5 #se iron !ored
trans$ormers5 !ore is s#itable $or 70 48 resonan!e5 atta!4 !aps in parallel
a!ross primary and se!ondary o$ t4e trans$ormer5
-'SO/A/%' F-'(&'/%= IS 70 O- :0 1 D'P'/DI/2 &- 2-ID
S&PP,= F-'(&'/%= %O&/0-= D'P'/D'/05 FI/D %APS
A%%O-DI/2,=5 .O,0A2' >I,, E' 12 .O,0 O- 110 O- 220
.O,0 O- %APS5'2 %HF <FD :0 1 12 . O- %HF <FD 120 .5
<FDH mi!ro$arads5
try it! !ir!#it is belo3 as atta!4ment5
A#g5 10, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
O#, ma#ing another coil e!actly the same, but reerse. Once that is done, how do I connect the coils
together. Directly or through some circuitry$ @ecause if i do it directly won't that effect the resonant
fre%uency because it would loo# li#e one big coil$ 'han#s :ilano
," Drak-
greetings-
bD # read t4is go to bottom o$ page and read teCt in red $irst5
u can connect directly. it will be a step up and step down. but u must know voltage of primary of
step up.the coils can be conncted secondary to secondary air core. try connecting raw load as mr
clean did. get to know amps. now u know ". but u must have idea of voltage that can be only
done by using (&@ potential transformer. i have posted my circuit where i used 7kv in primary
and = turns in secondary to get 3=0 volts in secondary with = amps out. amps depend on wire
used in secondary. am not good at art the circuit diagram looks crude but works. try myway u get
.uice. keep reading all my posts. in my case i made custom made nst and made it work as tesla
coil so i have high voltage 7k and high frequency and .ust did step down with aircore. since u
already have high voltage and high frequency its not wiser to make another tesla coil means step
up. u .ust need step down. i dont know wot voltage u will have in ur seconday of step down. but
its gonna be huge. make ur nst like i did. tune it as tesla coil then do step down. dons point is if u
have .ust nst with =0 or 10 hB then u have high voltage but not high frequency. to make high
frequency u need a coil and caps and spark gap to make a secondary resonate with primary. but if
u have nst with 63v input and high frequency and high voltage then u .ust need step down. a 63 v
A0/A= khB 7/= kv is good nst or u can get =0 v ac or 660 v ac A0/A= khB 7/= kv nst u .ust need
step down. thats why i made nst myself and had high frequency and high voltage. so nst was my
tesla coil and i did step down aircore only. to reduce voltage in primary stage is is easy.decrease
input power in ac feed using varactor and in dc input use pot.
never use 7= to =0 kv nst<all tv or comp flyback have this much voltage> start with low kv .ust
enuff to get spark going. but still u can reduce voltage using a variable capacitor air core in series
with ground in output and measure it with (&<(O&'%&")$ &R)%S;OR'R> 5''( (&
')R&,'D )$SO &O )+O"D D)%:'RS O; ,+. S'' ? )RR)%:''%& O; (& " ,)+'
uploaded image how to use (& )%D C&. :O &,R# )$$ ? (OS&S. hope u get the idea wot
am talkin about. any more queries r welcome. keep reading my post u will get more info and
better understanding of dons devices. take good care till then..... :od bless u and keep u safe-
PS) S1O-0%&0) G&S0 -'.'-S' &- %OI, 01'/ &
DO/0 /''D A/O01'- %OI,5 ma*e primary !oil as
se!ondary and se!ondary as primary so it 3ill be a step
do3n5 # 3ill get resonan!e t4is time also b#t it 3ill be a step
do3n and resonating too5dont !4ange p4ysi!al arrangement
o$ t4e !oil @#st s3ap primary and se!ondary 3ires
A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
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A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
4andboo* o$ ele!troni! tables and $orm#las sams
,i folks-
go to this link below
,andbook of 'lectronics &ables and ;ormulas / ;ree e!ooks Download
http922www.ebookA000.com2,andbook/of/'lectronics/&ables/and/
;ormulasED=A==.html
then use deposit file link to download the ebook
use free download wait for requisite time then u get a flash which says
download ;ile click it and u get it free.
and go to page 3A to find the requisite reactance charts in chapter 6.
other stuff is also included browse for urself
regards
A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I appreciate your replies ZZZ, you are a master. way to go.
'han# you so much i am happy you hae joined us. I am so new at much of the true understanding
about all of this technology and general transforming of energies i must as# this %uestion about how
changing 1: is accomplished.
I reali:e how oltages are changed by step up and step down transformers but what changes to
fre%uencies$
0nother obseration I must cite is when I fired up my 5,/// mid tap luminous tube transformer it
was mounted to wood and on a wood des# and it was blowing large continuous spar#s onto the
board.. well no e!panation necessary just learning to be way way cautiousC
Oh is it true that the ambient energy that Don spee#s of is actiated by use of the spar# gap$
'han#s
:ane
,i Bane-
t4e spar*s maybe d#e t3o reasons maybe #r table top is made o$
s#nmi!a or it 4as b#ilt #p ele!trostati! !4arge by #sage o$ #r table
top5 or t4e top layer o$ polis4 or paint m#st 4ave metal ingredients5
spar*s r 4ig4 voltage strea*s and t4ey tend to ne#trali8e5 la3 o$
!onservation o$ energy5 a 4ig4 m#st go lo35 i dont *no3 eCa!tly
34ere # *ept t4e globe5 spar*s r $atal do not #se 4ands to re!ieve
spar*s5 sin!e 4ig4 voltage spar*s r not sensed by brain d#e to
slo3ness o$ nerves to dete!t $ast travelling spar*s5 sometimes people
dont even $eel pain !o8 pain $eeling nerves r not able to dete!t it5 b#t
t4ey r veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 4arm$#l5 #se al3ays a 3ooden sti!*
3it4 a metal loop at t4e ot4er end to test $or spar*s i$ # 4ave to and
4old t4e sti!* $ar a3ay $rom ot4er end yo#r 4and"""""3ood"""""""""
oV W""metal loop
*eep sa$e b#rning by spar*s !an ma*e # loose memory sense o$
to#!4 and !an even b#rn #r $les4 deeper not visible 3it4 na*ed eyes5
so be !are$#l5
A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
more pi!s
,i folks-
too less limit for upload- huh- 1 files max. anyways dont worry. will keep
posting.
regards
magic of C* )%D CC* when i .oined the race i didnt know wot is cw and
wot is ccw but i know now. cw@ clockwise turns and ccw@ counter
clockwise@ anticlockwise turns@ opposite to the direction clock hand.
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) novice and a nerd -
but still learning -
keep learning-
A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
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tv2comp flyback 7th is ignition coil driver circuit =th is inside the nst and 1th
is .ust resistance color code chart. always count rings colors from opposite
end of silver or gold linning. there are online resistor calculator programs
here is link
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A#g5 L, 2011
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A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I appreciate your replies ZZZ, you are a master. way to go.
'han# you so much i am happy you hae joined us. I am so new at much of the true understanding
about all of this technology and general transforming of energies i must as# this %uestion about how
changing 1: is accomplished.
I reali:e how oltages are changed by step up and step down transformers but what changes to
fre%uencies$
0nother obseration I must cite is when I fired up my 5,/// mid tap luminous tube transformer it
was mounted to wood and on a wood des# and it was blowing large continuous spar#s onto the
board.. well no e!panation necessary just learning to be way way cautiousC
Oh is it true that the ambient energy that Don spee#s of is actiated by use of the spar# gap$
'han#s
:ane
,i Wane-
greetings-
t4e energy prod#!ed by bot4 spar* gap and resonan!e !ombination5
spar* gap is @#st a trigger to t#ne #p resonan!e its li*e tapping
resonan!e $re+#en!y o$ t4e se!ondary !oil5 its li*e dr#ms beating
34en # stop beating dr#m so#nd stops5 i$ # *eep beating dr#m 3it4
dr#m sti!* t4e so#nd !ontin#es and i$ # get t4e t4e timming !orre!t
dr#m !ontin#es to emit so#nd 34en beaten at its resonan!e
$re+#en!y t4en # 4ave lesser 4its to ma*e dr#m emit !ontin#o#s
so#nd and # !an rest #r 4and till its time again to 4it it bD t4e dr#m
so#nd is on t4e verge o$ dying o#t5 yo# 4it again and !y!le !ontin#es5
3e !an #se resistor a!ross t4e inp#t side o$ t4e trans$ormer b#t 3e
m#st *no3 t4e 3attage5 in dons !ir!#it people dont *no3 4o3 m#!4
voltage is at o#tp#t b#t t4ey do *no3 amps5 sin!e .HIF-5 A/D
PH.FI ,P IS >A00S 5>e m#st *no3 . and I bot4 to de!ide 3ot
3attage to #se5 t4e rea!tan!e !4art also s4o3s % val#es also
3e !an #se % also a!ross inp#t side o$ trans$ormer t4en # !an see t4e
,% !ombination and ,% 3e get it t4at ,% 4ave $re+#en!y5 sin!e don
said !aps r !ostly and resistan!es are !4eap its better to #se - to save
!ost5 moroever *apanad8e !onverting a! 4ig4 $re+#en!y lo3 voltage
#sing voltage divider !ir!#it and t4en #sing !lass ! ampli$ier #sing
t3o transistors # m#st 4ave seen $an !ooling t3o transistor on top o$
green boC5 vie3 my pd$ and # see *apanad8e !ir!#it based on dons
!ir!#it5 read pd$ #ploaded by me dsmit4"re$ern!e555 s!roll to bottom
see t4e !ir!#it o$ don t4e :A %OI, is t4e same !oil # see on
*apanad8e greenboC larger t4i!*er : t#rns5 4ope # get my point5i$ #
4ave any more +#eries # r 3el!ome to as* me5
regards
A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
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hi ;olks-
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A#g5 L, 2011
ilano
E&FF'- t4e basis o$ F''DEA%? %I-%&I0S
,i ;olks-
this is Bilano Beis Bane again-
we always talk about closing the loop when output is ample than the input. to
make automatic feedback to make circuit self feeding we have to have a
temporary storage area called !#;;'R it can be a battery or a capacitor or
capacitor combination. mostly auto feedbacks do not use battery they use
capacitors. capacitors acts as battery without acid and weight of the lead
plates. they keep storing and feeding input fetched from output. in any self
running machine a !#;;'R or intiator is required. if we use battery we have
to see its not overcharged and it becomes a headache with a cutoff circuit and
since battery deplete and have fixed life they die sooner or later. the smart
generation called caps comes in and they r far much better than battery
although they hold less charge but large enuff to keep feeding circuit in auto
feedback loop. the 7400 mfd<microfarads> do this. hope u understood the
basic behind caps at input.
regards
A#g5 ;, 2011
ilano
04e %ir!#it Don Smit4 Simpli$ied
h" ;O$5S-
this is Bilano Beis Bane
hope u see wot i was reffering to. here C$@capacitor oscillatory value depends on $ primary. use online
resonance calc to calculate value for A0khB. C&@ same way and CO same way. .ust go on matching
frequency. always measure $ with $CR '&'R )%D &,'% ;"%D &,' R'Y#"R'D C. &,' C)(S
)R' A00+ 3.= ;D in pi filter. please read 7400 mfd not 74000 mfd. mistake is regretted.
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A#g5 ;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I simply want to gie you credit for pointing out many of the highlights Don had mentioned and
highly respect you estute claification of these matters.
I must try your setups. I am afraid of my 5 9 olt )eon sign transformer.
3O3 I hae been bit hard by my plasma globe.
I hae some =/9A gloes now but it is still a scary adentureC
glad to see you here.
Dustan Zane *uc#ey
hi there DW-
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$ear ma*es #s learn and eC!el and s4ine o#t!
3e learn $rom mista*es
2od bless # and *eep # sa$e!
4ig4 voltages r $atal *eep sa$e!
regards
A#g5 ;, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
"till trying to figure out what to do with the captured radiant energy. Hesonance is easy, its the high
oltage output, what do you do with it$ 1ow do you turn high oltage low amps bac# to usable
energy$ RS!=/=aPDon "mith deice just testingRS!=/=cPRrlmP 4 ,ou'ube
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make a transformer according to ur requirement have it aircore only and
.ust use caps in parallel of ur primary step down only u dont need cap on
secondary output coil of ur step down transformer. so turns are
controlled within limits and frequency with caps.
its always better to use low voltage enuff to get spark going so u can
control voltage at input and output also easy way. i used 7 kv and 3=0
volts out. go thru my posts i have given elaborate explanation to get
anyone going to get .uice my way.
&he best solution in in ur case is to use same coil but reversed connected
to ur setup coil. so u have two stages now. one is step up and another is
step down. now u have step down use low voltage high amps and high
frequency diodes to get dc and a low voltage high capacity capacitor
across the dc output to smooth out ripples and its much better to use ("
filter which consists of two caps and an inductance in between so u get
pure dc low voltage. try a load and measure amps and use voltage
divider circuit to get 63v or 37 volts as ur case may be and use an
invertor to get ac power output. hope u try and if u get low .uice try
inserting copper coated welding rods in ur step down coil as core. but
make sure all setup ur step up n step down resonating. if ur step down is
not resonating with ur step up then u wont get .uice so match frequency
and then add core of welding tube sticks. the core enhances induction
and gives more strength to output amps. hope u try that gonna work.
report me ur adventure.dont use raw ac power without rectifying it in
stepdown else u burn up ur invertor coB high frequency will saturate core
and sending ur invertor transformer in flames. always make dc after step
down before u attach invertor.
regards
A#g5 ;, 2011
ilano
meas#ring 4ig4 voltages
,i folks-
greetings-
to measure high voltages and high currents<high amps> we need (&@
potential transformers and for amps C&@ currents transformers. am attaching
a pic see the configuration how to use (& )%D C&. a flyback driver
circuit<use 7400uf 30 volt across the 63v input for better performance of fly
back to reduce load on battery and saving circuit from hv kickbacks. )lso u
can use a capacitor across the primary matching with $ of primary to make it
oscillate for A0khB. measure $ with $CR '&'R and use online resonance
calculator for caps specifications here is a link $C Resonance ;requency
Calculator at *hatCircuits.com> reactance charts. and a 63 volt to 330 volt
simple invertor circuit. use a 660 volt transformer rated 6= amps for 660 volt
invertor circuit. lol i ran out of the space allotted for upload i have a dump of
info to share with u all let me know how to increase upload space.so more
.uicy and important info can be uploaded for all of ya to use.
A#g5 M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
I simply want to gie you credit for pointing out many of the highlights Don had mentioned and
highly respect you estute claification of these matters.
I must try your setups. I am afraid of my 5 9 olt )eon sign transformer.
3O3 I hae been bit hard by my plasma globe.
I hae some =/9A gloes now but it is still a scary adentureC
glad to see you here.
Dustan Zane *uc#ey
,i Dustan Wane uckey -
greetings-
well the basis of don globe is based on matching frequency of the globe
with ur coil. the coil must be in resonance with the globe frequency. so
tune that with caps caps added. this can also be done by using the length
of the coil without caps. also u have to use 7$ $'%:&, O; &,' CO"$
&,)& "S &,' CRO*%.or if u have smaller coil then use caps to match
it. then do the step down with a single diode and caps for storing power
.ust half wave will do. people think .ust putting up a coil crown make it
resonate its not that case we have to match resonance frequency first
then tap the .uice. view my posts i have simple solution without a globe
thats will get u .uice faster n smarter way. with experience and expertise
that u get while performing experiments will lead u to learn how to self
start generator with .ust 8 volt dc battery. all it takes to learn from
mistakes. i learned a lot so will u.
well formulas are universal i .ust elaborated on them.am not an inventor
.ust a discover agent.
wish u all the very best-
A#g5 M, 2011
ilano
mis!on!eptions related to don smit4 !ir!#its
,i greetings to all-
&his is Bilano Beis Bane again.
4ope # all r listening!
its a mis!on!eption t4at don smit4 !ir!#its dra3 po3er $rom gro#nd
34i!4 is not a!t#ally tr#e5 t4e energy is dra3n $rom t4e resonan!e 34ere
minimal inp#t needed $or maCim#m o#tp#t5 eart4 gro#nding is
ne!essary to maintain proper voltage $or t4e !ir!#it to operate5sin!e 4ere
3e r dealing 3it4 4ig4 voltages and 4ig4 voltages o$ten asso!iated 3it4
streamers t4ey are small ar! voltages @#mping li*e small tesla ar!s 34i!4
are irritating5 t4ey r prod#!ed by 4ig4 voltage lea*age !a#sing
imbalan!e to resonan!e5
3e o$ten !ome a!ross 4aving one p4ase 3it4 lo3 voltage and i$ one need
to in!rease voltage one !an #se t4is p4ase and an eart4 gro#nd as ne#tral
3ire and lig4t a b#lb better t4an #sing one p4ase and a ne#tral 3ire5
eart4 @#st s#!*s in po3er not give o#t po3er5 eart4 is @#st a great good
!ond#!tor5 so $ello3s s4#n #r mis!on!eption t4at dons po3er or
*apanad8e po3er !oming $rom gro#nd5 its not its !oming $rom
resonan!e5 and resonan!e is o$ten re$$ered to as ambient environment5 it
@#st m#ltiplies inp#t to give m#ltiplied o#tp#t5 3e 4ave t3o inp#ts
$re+#en!y and voltage and resonan!e gives s+#ared prod#!t o$ t4e t3o5 i$
#r inp#t is t3i!e # get (2C2)C(2C2)H DCD H 1: times more 3it4 t3i!e times
inp#t5 t4at is voltage s+#ared F $re+#en!y s+#ared5 t4ats t4e little se!ret!
tesla $o#nd it #sed it and all ot4ers $ollo3ed tesla in!l#ding me5
regards to all
A#g5 M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
,i &here-
greetings-
please *eep in mind never #se 7775 #se ,% %I-%&I0 FO-
OS%I,,A0O-5 so # 4ave a p#re sine 3ave5 as inp#t5 i sa3 #r set#p
t4e 3ave$orm is not balan!ed5 sin!e 3ave$orm is not balan!ed as
inp#t resonan!e 3ave$orm also deteriorates5 $irst !4e!* t4e
3ave$orm o$ inp#t it s4#d be per$e!t sine 3ave5 t4en apply it5 so #
get per$e!t resonan!e5 #r resonant 3ave$orm is not per$e!t5 so it 3ill
!a#ses problems in o#tp#t #sage #nless # re!ti$y it to d!5 try reading
my post and # 3ill get to t4e sol#tion5 lo3 voltage 4ig4 amps5 and a
sine 3ave$orm as o#tp#t5
regards
A#g5 M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
,i greetings-
try doing what kapanadBe did. get an empty ferrite core. and wind
primary D turns and 7 turns independent coils of same gauge. and wind
secondary about 7000 turns. measure $<Dturns> of primary and use an
online calculator to calculate capacitor to make it resonate at A0 khB.
here is link
Resonant ;requency Calculator
use $<7 turns as feedback coil> and use any high hfe transistor as switch
to make oscillator resonating at A0khB all sine wave circuit. so it will
induce 7 kv A0 khB .&,"S "S #R C#S&O )D' %S&. "& *"$$
*OR5 ;OR 8/63 +O$&S DC. (ROD#C"%: )C 7kv A0 khB. use diode
to make dc. .ust half wave. since ur custom made nst oscillating at A0
khB u dont need to use resonating length of $pt@length of primary tesla
coil .ust use D0 turns of thin wire 70002D0@=0 volt per turn as primary it
will oscillate at A0 khB then wind secondary thick wire = turns giving u
=x=0@3=0 volts output as primary induces =0 volt per turn into thick
secondary. try resonating. if it fails hopefully not. even if it does fail.
measure with lcr meter the primary<D0 turns> and use Resonant
;requency Calculator
to calculate caps for A0 khB. use it.do same for secondary that is = turns
tesla coil. match right cap for it. now it will work. so ur output is 3=0
volts and ampere depend upon the wire u used i mean at which amps
rating thats rated. suppose its rated 60 amps so u r having power ouput
from this output coil@3=0x60@3=00va@3.=kw. now voltage is in control.
now to control frequency either convert it to dc using high amps low
voltage diodes. and use class c amplifier with power transistors and
produce ac of =0 hB or 10 hB. use 696 isolation transformer. use varistor
at the output rated for 3=0 volts.
another method is to use 696 isolation transformer and measure the
inductance $ of the input side of transformer that is input side of ur setup
to the input leads of the transformer put R across two input points R can
be calculated from american radio relay league graph that is reactance
chart. now u know the amperes so u can calculate the wattage of resistor.
the sixth edition of howard and samson book [ handbook of electronic
tables n formulas[ also contains the reactance charts. for =0 hB look for
600 hB entry in chart and for 10 hB look for 630 hB entry in chart with ur
inductance value of the transformer primary input. plot the line and
where it cuts the resistance line use that value. %ow u have everything
decently calculated and managed setup. use varistor at the output of
isolation transformer. its better u make isolation transformer using an old
empty bobbin iron cored unused transformer or use any robust ferrite
core to keep it cool. thats it
.ust make sure the wires u use for transformer are rated 30c higher
ampearage rating of the ampeares u r gonna use. here u have 60 amps so
calculate 30c plus of 60 amps/) S);'&? ;')&#R'. "SO$)&"O% "S
#S&. COW *' DO%& *)%& )CC"D'%&S )%D *' *)%& S);'
;R'' (O*'R. when power is more in output looping back and closing
the loop is as easy as a wink. feedback 63v = amps<mysetup> in ur case
may be different. use )'R"C)% /)*C R)&"%:S OR C)%)D")%
R)&"%:S ;OR *"R' :)#:'S *"&, )(S % ;R'Y#'C"'S
&)!$'S. S'$'C& R":,& O%'S ;OR #R S'&#(
'(O*'R #RS'$;
;R''(O*'R &O )$$
R':)RDS
A#g5 M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by ?o*omo@0
I was not aware they really e!isted.
I loo# forward to testing them.
where can I go to do that please$
h" :R''&"%:S-
google is the best place to search all ya need. i used google and found
out everything. keep digging and keep watching my posts. there is
always fire where there is smoke. people dont try things and say things
dont work. and feel that they r super intelligent and say the devices r not
good enuff to be true. to succeed in anything go to the root. keep
thinking and keep searching and u get it all. .ust keep asking questions
and get answers. i was a novice and still i am but i dug it deep and found
the right things to make the device running and in control.
well the basic part is nst neon sign transformer.since old nst uses iron
core they cannot be resonated at high frequencies as core will saturate
and transformer will burn up in flames. todays nst\s use ferrite cores so
high frequency is not a problem but they have gfi@ground fault
interruptor built in thats trips the nst when grounded in dons circuits. so
its better to make ur nst customised by winding primary and feedback
coil and secondary using any ferrite core from old tv eht@extra high
tension@ flyback transformer. tv flybacks can be used but they have 7=kv
rated or more so dangerous voltages. we .ust need Akv to 7 kv to get
spark going so why we use 7= kv flyabackU nst is nothing but a high
voltage step up transformer where u feed oscillatory power in khB in
primary to get high voltage and high frequency in the secondary output
winding of nst. tv flyback cores can also be used to make customised
nst. with controlled voltage that is 7kv. tv flybacks have one good thing
they have high voltage diode built in. but they have 7=kv to =0 kv
outputs very hard to handle unless u keep voltages in control.
the input voltage is the primary factor that controls how many turns u
wanna have in ur primary. to make a step down tesla transformer. higher
the input voltage makes primary to have more turns. as compared to
secondary
secondary where u wanna have 660 to 3=0 volts output. the voltage
applied to primary divided by turns gives u volage per turn in primary
and since each turn induces voltage to secondary turns. so if u have
higher voltage per turn in primary ur gonna get higher voltage per turn in
secondary. its better to think tesla like a normal transformer and create
primary n secondary according to ur needs. in this case frequencies dont
match. to match frequencies we have to use caps in parallel to get
resonance. so number of turns and thickness of coil dont matter if we get
them resonating. its always better to reverse the tesla coil. make primary
more turns and secondary less turns and thicker to get amperage.
can any one help me how to post schematics i will give u more links and
more .uicy things to get u going from scratch to free power. am new to
this forum and i dont know how to upload schematics.
dons circuit operate like a radio set. resonance happening at the
transmitting station to listen to radio we need a coil and tune it with tha
variable capacitor to get in resonance with the transmitting station. when
our reciever coil is in resonance with transmitting station we get musik.
so dons primary is transmitting station and our coil is .ust secondary and
its not far from transmitting station its so close. so we have less losses as
distance is negligible and we can get musik .ust by tunning our
secondary coil which is our recieving primary.thats the basis of dons
power.
i will keep u informed with more ......... till then
take good care and use google and search wotever comes to ur mind
regarding don smith and u keep saving pdfs and all titbits. google is a
wonderful thing .ust scribble wot u need and in seconds u get it-
i googled and found everything-
and if u dont find anything.......... .ust keep reading my posts and u will
get all ya need-
regards
W"$)%O W'"S W)%'
A#g5 M, 2011
ilano
(#ote)
Originally (osted by baro#tologos
I hae been deoted past wee# at studying Donanld "mith's deices and theories.
'his man seems serious and claims that oerunity or an e!traordinary energy gain can be achieed
with moderate means.
One deice illustrated, and as claime, it was presented at a 'esla symposium, it was the image below.
Don "mith claims that a high fre%uency alternating current could be modified in fre%uency by the
application of a resistor, a capacitor or perhaps a coil 6cho#e7 wired in parallel to the initial 18
source.
Does it tell anything to anyone that$ Is it ma#es any sense$ 'hat illustration uses a >= olt powered
)eon "ign 'ransfromer to charge ?///u8 caps at (// olts or so.
3O3$ how the... can it be$ Is the man heaily miscalculating or is there any e!plaination to this$
@aroutologos
h" :R''&"%:S-
t4e $orm#la
0H,9-
>1'-' 0H F-'(&'/%=
,HI/D&%0A/%'
-H-'SIS0A/%'
DO'S 01' 0-I%?
01' %OI, I<P'DA/%' %1A/2'S SO DO'S 01' 0
R':)RDS
W"$)%O W'"S W)%'
Deleated (/o Date)
(#ote)
1i greetingsC
well this is the truth beliee it or not wisdom lies not in the glass and steel chambered offices but in
the garages and atticsC
don is an old fella and has suffered attac#s which paralised him so he is not in good form C we must
respect his old age and the way hi tal#s. when we grow old we are gonna be more worst than don.
age con%uers all. but he is the guy who gae eerything in his boo#. its just our wisdom is not much
to see wots hidden in his te!t and graphics. there are no methods in free energy devices producing
mega $atts of po$er %ut dons does( all we need is wide eyes and see wot he is reffering to. if u read
dons te!t n schematics carefully he told ya eerything. the word is L+"' HEAEH"E 'E"30 -OI3
0)D '10'" '1E -3+E *E0)" *09E PHI*0H, 0" "E-O)D0H, 0)D "E-O)D0H, 0"
PHI*0H, 0)D + GE' I'.
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Wilano
Yuote9
in my e!perience digital multi meters are unreliable around spar# gaps or een e!citers. 'he one's I
hae simply do not read any usefull information anywhere near a spar# gap. If you really want a
reliable reading you will need to use ery e!pensie digital meters or analogue one's. 'he meters
readings aren't as important as powering a load though so the appro!imate power leels can be
determined that way....
...from the )"' that is D// watts and if there is >/ amps coming out at >=/ olts then thats >=//
watts. "o the benifit is obious.
0nyway I li#e you're setup, good wor#, well done. 9eep us posted, a lot of us are interested in this
particular arrangement.
'han#s for posting -heers
" appreciate that man- i\ll definitely keep you guys posted g2quoteh
,i mr. clean - greetings-
yo# are doing great 3or*5 try doing 34at *apanad8e did5 get an
empty $errite !ore5 and 3ind primary ; t#rns and D t#rns
independent !oils o$ same ga#ge5 and 3ind se!ondary abo#t D000
t#rns5 meas#re ,(;t#rns) o$ primary and #se an online !al!#lator to
!al!#late !apa!itor to ma*e it resonate at 60 *485
4ere is lin*
-esonant Fre+#en!y %al!#lator
#se ,(D t#rns as $eedba!* !oil) and #se any 4ig4 4$e transistor as
s3it!4 to ma*e os!illator resonating at 60*48 all sine 3ave !ir!#it5 so
it 3ill ind#!e D *v 60 *48 501IS IS &- %&S0O< <AD' /S05 I0
>I,, >O-? FO- L"12 .O,0S D%5 P-OD&%I/2 A% D*v 60 *485
#se diode to ma*e d!5 @#st 4al$ 3ave5 sin!e #r !#stom made nst
os!illating at 60 *48 # dont need to #se resonating lengt4 o$
,ptHlengt4 o$ primary tesla !oil @#st #se ;0 t#rns o$ t4in 3ire
D0009;0H70 volt per t#rn as primary it 3ill os!illate at 60 *48 t4en
3ind se!ondary t4i!* 3ire 7 t#rns giving # 7C70H270 volts o#tp#t as
primary ind#!es 70 volt per t#rn into t4i!* se!ondary5 try
resonating5 i$ it $ails 4ope$#lly not5 even i$ it does $ail5 meas#re 3it4
l!r meter t4e primary(;0 t#rns) and #se -esonant Fre+#en!y
%al!#lator
to !al!#late !aps $or 60 *485 #se it5do same $or se!ondary t4at is 7
t#rns tesla !oil5 mat!4 rig4t !ap $or it5 no3 it 3ill 3or*5 so #r o#tp#t
is 270 volts and ampere depend #pon t4e 3ire # #sed i mean at
34i!4 amps rating t4ats rated5 s#ppose its rated 10 amps so # r
4aving po3er o#p#t $rom t4is o#tp#t !oilH270C10H2700vaH257*35
no3 voltage is in !ontrol5 no3 to !ontrol $re+#en!y eit4er !onvert it
to d! #sing 4ig4 amps lo3 voltage diodes5 and #se !lass ! ampli$ier
3it4 po3er transistors and prod#!e a! o$ 70 48 or :0 485 #se 1)1
isolation trans$ormer5 #se varistor at t4e o#tp#t rated $or 270 volts5
anot4er met4od is to #se 1)1 isolation trans$ormer and meas#re t4e
ind#!tan!e , o$ t4e inp#t side o$ trans$ormer t4at is inp#t side o$ #r
set#p to t4e inp#t leads o$ t4e trans$ormer p#t - a!ross t3o inp#t
points - !an be !al!#lated $rom ameri!an radio relay leag#e grap4
t4at is rea!tan!e !4art5 no3 # *no3 t4e amperes so # !an !al!#late
t4e 3attage o$ resistor5 t4e siCt4 edition o$ 4o3ard and samson boo*
K 4andboo* o$ ele!troni! tables n $orm#lasK also !ontains t4e
rea!tan!e !4arts5 $or 70 48 loo* $or 100 48 entry in !4art and $or :0
48 loo* $or 120 48 entry in !4art 3it4 #r ind#!tan!e val#e o$ t4e
trans$ormer primary inp#t5 plot t4e line and 34ere it !#ts t4e
resistan!e line #se t4at val#e5 /o3 # 4ave everyt4ing de!ently
!al!#lated and managed set#p5 #se varistor at t4e o#tp#t o$ isolation
trans$ormer5 its better # ma*e isolation trans$ormer #sing an old
empty bobbin iron !ored #n#sed trans$ormer or #se any rob#st
$errite !ore to *eep it !ool5 t4ats it
@#st ma*e s#re t4e 3ires # #se $or trans$ormer are rated 20X 4ig4er
ampearage rating o$ t4e ampeares # r gonna #se5 4ere # 4ave 10
amps so !al!#late 20X pl#s o$ 10 amps"A SAF'0= F'A0&-'5
ISO,A0IO/ IS <&S05 %O >' DO/0 >A/0 A%%ID'/0S A/D
>' >A/0 SAF' F-'' PO>'-5 34en po3er is more in o#tp#t
looping ba!* and !losing t4e loop is as easy as a 3in*5 $eedba!* 12v
7 amps(myset#p) in #r !ase may be di$$erent5 #se A<'-I%A/
"A>% -A0I/2S O- %A/ADIA/ -A0I/2S FO- >I-'
2A&2'S >I01 A<PS / F-'(&'%I'S 0AE,'S5 S','%0
-I210 O/'S FO- &- S'0&P
'<PO>'- &-S',F
F-''PO>'- 0O A,,
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W"$)%O W'"S W)%'
)ug. 1S 3066
Wilano
s#ggestions $or t4e bene$it o$ all memebers don smit4 devi!es
Yuote9
hi guys, cant seem to get much response on this 3O3 jeee:
1ere is my recent wor# on the Don "mith deice
,ou'ube 4 RS!=/=aPDon "mith Deice Project Part .2 ","'E* O) 3OW, 0erage >.< 0mp In,
>/U0*P" Out RS!=/=cPRrlmP
Lust wondering if anyones wor#in on this, or any input from anyone. Im doing this with ery little
#nowledge. Im pleased so far.
the basis of don smith power is on two factors voltage and frequency. the
minimum voltage to make a spark gap work is 7kv ie 7000 volts and use
the optimum frequency for the rest. if we r to make a device for home
use we must fix one of two things its better we fix voltage and vary
frequency. if we use both high voltage and high frequency it will make
us produce power not controllable and with more haBardous voltages. so
keep voltage .ust enuf to spark get going and use frequency by formula
of resonant circuit. assume c@6 and calculate power in .oules of resonant
circuit. so keeping voltage 7k fixed n changing frequency and
capacitance to minimum<capacitance associated with inductance only>
power is
(@0.= x C x <+ squared>C<,W squared>
(@(O*'R "% _O#$'S or watt sec <6 .oule @ 6 watt sec>
C@C)()C"&? "% ;)R)DS
+@+O$&):'
,W@C?C$'S ('R S'CO%D
x@ multiply sign
when we are using caps C as storing power of tesla coil or inductance $
the formulas for output power are
caps formula/putput power
(c@0.= x C x <+ SY#)R'D> x ,W
(c@ power in .oules@ watt sec
C@C)()C"&? "% ;)R)DS
,W@ C?C$' ('R S'CO%D
(l@0.= x $ x <) SY#)R'D> x ,W
(l@power in .oules@ watt sec
C@C)()C"&? "% ;)R)DS
,W@ C?C$' ('R S'CO%D
)@current in ampeares
if we r taking output from $ ie inductance only use pl formula
and if we r taking output from capacitor then use pc formula
its always better to use reverse tesla coils
that is thin primary and many turns
and thick secondary few turns many amps
resonance is a .ust a frequency and its a match if matched then number
of turns and thickness dont matter.
all that matters is resonating circuit producing power at low voltage and
high amps.
the secret of don smith revealed.
_#S& R'+'RS' &'S$) CO"$
)%D # :'& &,' :O$D
)%D &,)&S *O& &,' S&OR? %'+'R &O$D
:OOD $#C5 )%D )$$ S#CC'SS- &O )$$ ;'$$O* '%-
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W"$)%O W'"S W)%'
)ug. 1S 3066
Wilano
great 3or* mr5 !lean
," there- you have done a wonderful work. if ur nst is 63kv and ur output
coil is 6= turns then ur voltage might be 6D0000 volts that is 6D0kv and u r
getting 60 amps means u r getting 6D00kva power and its hard to make a
transformer for that for a step down. try reversing tesla coil. make primary
many turns and secondary thicker yet lesser turns so u get optimum voltage
step down and in resonance with more amps. if u can get step up resonance
then u can get step down resonance. try making coil so secondary gives 330
volts or 630 volts as the case maybe. and use 696 isolation transformer with
amps in consideration. hope u have a reason to whistle and smile....... its .ust
a suggestion and i hope u try it its gonna work. use bifilar coil in output for
better ampearage.
isolation transformer is must coB we dont want any accidents at output.
am really glad and very happy seeing ur replications- great work keep it up -
its an awesome attempt -
regards
W"$)%O W'"S W)%'
in sense n sane-
)ug. 1S 3066
Wilano
All ?apanad8e -epli!ations - Eased On Don Smit4
its true all kapanadBe circuits resemble with don smith circuits. truth always
lie in heaps of dust. uncover it and u get golden truth. don gave us everything
to start with and he is the only person with maximum details to help us
replicate.his devices are true in all respects.. try digging more here is a link
fix303a^Don Smith Device (ro.ect (art D9 S?S&' O% ,":,S S&')D?
63/30 )(S %O C)()C"&ORSfix303c^frlm^ / ?ou&ube

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