FIELDER: Actually I wanted to hear it b/c I dont even know chris mcdaniel, you

know. All weve ever got was negative things from tea party.

So weve not really had anybody you know in the community race was ah
dishing out some information about each other and and all of that but um Ive
been in politics I know about 40 some years since I was yay high. My dad raised
me up, first black guy running for sheriff, constable and all of that in the late
sixties & seventies, you know. So I know all about how politics is. And he once
said years ago, you know, that if you add some black with some white and you
have a pretty unbeatable machine. And um, you know as it relates to you all, I
didnt just do the call b/c I saw a lot of people unhappy about the result.

I was like this now you know, I worked very hard for thad, and I got close to some
people that in trouble in the loop and were doing some things that I witnessed
and know about and threw money to people for it, that I know thats against
ethics and all of that, and ah, Im supposed to get paid on the back end and I
didnt and then I said how many times do I have to get burned by people in
politics that um you know say after the votes counted say hey and it dont
come, this is what they do, so, You all had your reasons for not liking what
happened, I had my reason that was the pay, and um, like [

Knowing what it would take to hand the district to him because he couldnt stand
up behind the allegations of proof that I would put out, um he would have to turn
the district loose. I mean Thats all there is to it. You know I mean you dont just
throwin things out there that I dont think nobody would frown if a person paid
black people 15 dollars a vote to vote, you know what Im saying. You know I,
you let me know what you feel about it as we discuss it.

INTERVIEWER: you said you DONT think that anybody would frown on it?

FIELDER: I said I DO think.

INTERVIEWER : I do too. I dont think that thats right.

FIELDER: I dont think at all. I believe that that was out and had somebody
substantiate thats just one part. I just dont see how he could stand up behind
such as that.

INTERVIEWER so were there, did you see? Did you see um?

FIELDER: Whats his name now look, like I told him, I dont mind talking in
person. I, we all have our reasons for doing what we doin. Now me? Its very
simple. I mean, I could provide certain things.

INTERVIEWER: So when you say 15 dollars per person to vote, how does that
happen? What does that look like?

(Fielder shows interviewer email received from saleem baird)

Fielder : Thats just a text from one of the workers to me. Just scroll down now.
Have to go through some things. ____ back up. And that was carried out
numerous times. Thats basically 20 people times 15, thats 300 dollars, a small
scale they needed 10,000 votes, black votes, to make sure, that ah, that they
would have enough to beat, ah, Chris.

With me. Its like the guy from California, who it was, Charles Johnson, you know
the story, I dont mind doing what I got to do. But Im not you know I know you
know once I do it and turn it over and chris gets his chair, you know, I know
where that leaves me. You know, Its either I get something, or Im a good
Samaritan, you know, and I dont think in these days and times too many people
work in the good Samaritan thing, so I want to meet face to face, that I have
proof, you know I have definitely did what is highly illegal for him to do. They put
us in that situation. And so um, The thing is if chris want his seat, and if he want
to deal with me for it for whatever I need to do, I dont mind doin it, so the
problem is you know if he think, if he think what I got will benefit him, then long as
I done did it, and not out there stuck out high,

INTERVIEWER so you need to be protected.

Fielder : Yeah that and you know taken care of. Cause see they beat me out of
like 15,000 dollars for work that I did. I was supposed to get paid right at 2,000 a
day from Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday and Tuesday. So these
names like that hes askin for was done over and over and over and over until
Chris McDaniel didnt have a chance.

Who is saleem?

FIELDER: He worked for uh, Thad, on his main campaign.

INTERVIEWER: Did you know him?

Fielder The funny thing about it? I didnt really know him, but uh his mother, his
cousin or whatever she is, really holds a high position in the Democrat party. And
how

So what, there would um, he said he would have cash divided up into
envelopes?

FIELDER: That was for the people.

INTERVIEWER: Can you describe the process for me? Like how does that
work?

FIELDER: Well I mean you know, its a give and take. I dont want to just go all
the way. If yall are offering something, then Im offering something. You know,
lets just be realistic. If yall are offering something then Im offering something.
The process is easy to describe. Its basically just what it says. If a person
wanted to do that, he would just have the 20 envelopes already ready with each
one, he just catch the people goin into the polls, folks that you know and folks
that you dont know. And you know 15 dollars thats what they vote worth, and
thats what yall got tangled up at the very end, he was scared. And there was
some unprofessional things done.

INTERVIEWER: So where does that transfer take place? Does it happen
right out side of the polling place?

FIELDER:: Probably, they pick em up, or they get em right on the edge of the
place, not IN the place, you know, but you have to get em very close to what you
know theyre going straight to vote. Or either somebody a group of em is sent
down there to vote you know with somebody driving a car with four or five of em
in there, and two or three of em you get em as you can get em. But you make
sure you get em. You know, and its no doubt yall was, you think about the
people went to the polls in the black areas it was almost like 10 to 1. So I mean
what Im telling you is not a far stretch, and what I just showed you I have it ready
for you. I wasnt going to say that because I wanted to make sure that, you know
like I say, you give something you get something. But you know yall got caught
up in a last minute ditch effort to make sure you were defeated. And it worked
with ah.. you know it was unethical I think, very unethical, and I think that, ah he
would be, old as he his, and with this, with the right kind of attorney, with the right
pressure, I dont think it would have to go too far to make him step down.

INTERVIEWER: At what point do they make the recommendation about who
to vote for? Like how do they know whos going to vote for who when they
walk into the polling place?

FIELDER:: Well I mean you know, they a lot of time aint nobody with em, but you
just gave em 15 dollars, and telling them hey, this is the guy to vote, it looks like
to me by the numbers that they did pretty much did what they were supposed to
do. You know, So I dont think I think for 15 dollars that for us to go on in there, if
somebody wanted help, they got help, but pretty much people went in and did
what they said they was gonna do.

INTERVIEWER: Who tells them who to vote for?

FIELDER: Well I think whoever they give the money to. If it gave me, if it was me
had the thousands of dollars at a time 20 or 15 dollars at a person, so I go out
and get these people, and hey, Im doing what Im told. You know the camp say
this, and I realized thats a ____ of mind. They just used a mean tactic. I
remember years ago, in government they used to talk about a dollar a vote in the
old days, years ago, they would have a thing already made out. But they want to
make sure that, I dont know how they put the price at 15 dollars, but ah it
worked. And and all I know is he sent me you know that text among others to
make sure that uh this how we do it, and this is how you pick it up. And he just
give me the envelopes, and they go on, and thats whats in the envelope, 15
dollars, and all that, as you see it said all names addresses and all, I think they
assumed ah, theyre not worried about that, they just had the envelope, just a
plain white envelope.

INTERVIEWER: And so you would give him the names and addresses?

FIELDER: Thats what they was wantin. And I gave em supplied em yeah one
time to this guy here.

INTERVIEWER: Saleem?

FIELDER: Uh huh. And he was high up in there. A guy high up into the thing.

INTERVIEWER: So saleem worked for thad Cochran?

FIELDER: YEAH!

INTERVIEWER: And whats saleems last name? do you know?

FIELDER: B-A-I-R-D.

INTERVIEWER: Saleem Baird

FIELDER: Yeah. [shows me email again]

INTERVIEWER: Saleem O. Baird. OK. Um. So um, and they would give you
the envelopes, and who would drive around and pick em up at the
addresses, you would do that?

FIELDER: Well, like I said now, I wanted you to come and let you see I had what
we needed, and I know it would help you, but now I think its you all, you know its
Chriss turn, now that I done showed you that I got something that would help,
and I know it would help you, Im not stupid.

INTERVIEWER: I know that. Clearly not.

FIELDER: So if he whatever, if me and him, if me and somebody. Cuz see they
want this back ah this evening. They out there, Reverend Thompson, he was the
black guy that was on TV with em. Ah At the ah, I couldve been over there, but I
didnt want to drive.

INTERVIEWER: Oh so thats a burner phone they gave you.

FIELDER: Oh No no no no no. They want me to erase everything, and they want
to pay me, you know he called last night two three times, and they want to try to
get together this evening and all of this, but I had talked to you all, I live up to my
word. If its nothing that you all want to do with it, fine, Ill just deal with em and be
through. But if you all, Im still giving you the chance, because I called you. And
and and its gonna look bad, a guy helping the tea party, but I dont care cuz the
bottom line it was theres some wrong thats done. And ah if hes, willing to ah,
you know negotiate with me, Im fine with helping him get his seat, cuz he I
mean, he he was defeated by black people that was allegedly, Ill say at this point
until we deal, paid.

Now if you can see where that would help you fine, if you dont? Just tell me now.

Well I mean, you know I told you, I brought some information to the table. And he
dont have a big window, cuz I know at 5, Im supposed to meet ah, them, some
of em was claiming from out of town some kind of way. I dont know a johnny
barbour, some barbour guy, you know em?

OK well I dont know em. I just know the one that used to be the governor.

INTERVIEWER: Haley?

FIELDER: Haley yeah. So this guy is telling me that this guy is the main person
and hell straighten it out. I, I, again, I called you all, so if they want me to help
em, Ill let the next move be with them financially what they feel like they can do
to assist me and trying to recover what I missed, what they beat me out of.

But the way I see it is like this, if they can give me something to show, that hey,
you all are up. Lets deal, Im there with em. Aint got to be everything right then.
Cuz this is gonna take some workin out. Something this big of magnitude with us.
But if I stuck my head out from under my shell to let you know, hey, if they can do
something today to let me know hey dont deal with em this evening, Im the
man, we gonna get together, this is what I want, I got now, and we gonna deal
this and next week,

Then thats what Im looking for. And well be good to go. And I can wait. This will
be here. Um anything they need that what I witnessed and done, Ill go further
detail then, you know what Im sayin, because I dont want to just, cuz the guy
want to get interviews, I dont mind doing anything I need to do as long as we
work. You know when they put something out, Im out with em.

Well just know today I, and this aint no pressure that Im trying to put on you, well
it had to be today, because I got to have a good reason why this evening, and
me knowing them, if they said five theyll be here at three. But um, and thats ah,
Cuz like I said, you ask him who some barbour, johnny bar--, I dont know, this is
what the preacher is telling me the pastor at 31
st
the black guy who is up there
sam Thompson he knows sam Thompson too, that was up there with him, and he
said that ah, he guarantee that if we just hold it we would get it straight today,
and I wouldnt be out of nothing, but I had already talked to you all, Im not a back
stabber, I will do what I said, but if they do something and let me know that
theyre sincere, then Ill wait, and well and ah, well worry about that with them,
and well go ahead on.

But other than that, you know anybody, these days as bad as things is, you not
gonna turn down something. Now you might say, well if you do something, what
make you think he gonna. Im not fooling with em. Just as long as we got a good
understanding and they put something out. But if they dont, then I mean, who
can turn down the money that theyre owed. But Im not gonna take it if yall are
willing to show me that yall will put out until we can get together over at his
office, or whatever, cuz Im not scared to meet anywhere. The truth is you know
the truth is what I got on my side. And the truth is what will put him [thad] out of
his seat and ah hell [chris] have his chair. I dont care what no other folk get
mad about. I got things, and know what things are that could easily have done
cause to me, whos running it? Is the old man running the chair? Or is it a bunch
of young, you know I aint got nothing against no young guys, but now if young
people running it thats gonna back stab people, nuh uh.

I aint got nothing against young people, but just, dont back stab, and thats what
they did, and I reached out, and I been upfront with ya. You know what Im
expecting if he can do something today, hey, we got a good relationship until we
take all the way to get his seat out, well work together on whatever else, but I
just need them now to show me that theyre interested in going forward.

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