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From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>To: Christoph Kull <christoph.kull@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <bo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,<thompson.4@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <EWWO@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <jan.esper@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,Janice Lough <j.lough@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Juerg Luterbacher <juerg@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,Keith Briffa <k.briffa@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Tim Osborn <t.osborn@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,Ricardo Villalba <ricardo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Kim Cobb <kcobb@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, HeinzWanner <wanner@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Jonathan Overpeck <jto@u.arizona.edu>, MichaelSchulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Eystein Jansen <Eystein.Jansen@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,Nick Graham <ngraham@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Francis Zwiers<francis.zwiers@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Caspar Ammann <ammann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Michael E.Mann" <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Gavin Schmidt <gschmidt@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Sandy Tudhope<sandy.tudhope@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Tas van Ommen <tas.van.ommen@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Wahl,Eugene R" <wahle@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Brendan Buckley <bmb@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, HuguesGoosse <hugues.goosse@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>Subject: Review Comments on the Wengen paperDate: Thu Jun 5 13:18:xxx xxxx xxxxCc: <larry.williams@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Thorsten Kiefer<thorsten.kiefer@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Naresh Kumar <NKumar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>Dear All (especially Peck!),Attached are three sets of reviews of the paper - 2 in the pdf file and one in thesmall doc file.As you'll be able to see, there isn't that much to do and the reviews have beengood. All three reviewers seem to be in awe of the group! I've had a briefdiscussion with Keith as to who should do what. You're all welcome to helpbut I only think most of you will need go through the revised version when we getthatout - hopefully asap. John Matthews is still hopeful of a 2008 publication date,and you'll see we won't be going out for any further reviews - just John checking.Many of the comments relate to the tree-ring section and Keith willdeal with these. They involve some re-organization and some additional refson dendro isotope work.The coral and isotope sections get praised for organization - so well done!I'll need some help with the one coral comment on 'vital effects', so canJanice, Kim and Sandy work on that. I think it only needs a few sentencesand maybe extra refs. I know some of you are in Trieste next week, so maybeyou can work on it there.I'll work on the documentary section a bit and liaise with Juerg. This shouldn'tinvolvemuch extra work.I'll also look at the borehole section together with what was in Ch 6 of AR4.The major bit of new text we need is on the high-res varves and laminated lakerecords,so this is why I highlighted Peck. They aren't used in large-area high-freqclimatereconstructions, so emphasis there and to a few key review papers. Is this doableinthe next couple of weeks, Peck? I don't think more than a page or two is required.Related to the issue of the different proxies use or potential use in high-freqreconstructions, I'll work on trying to bring that out in the Introduction. I'llbring out the issues of the maturity of the different proxy disciplines.Sections 3 and 4 just seem to need some minor wording changes andsome clarification - possibly in a revised introduction. We're hoping that Timhere will be able to do that. Note that although the reviewer suggested droppingthe forcing section, John Matthews would like that kept.
 
In conclusion, we are nearly there. CRU will be able to find the colour costsenvisaged.To those in Trieste - enjoy the week and I hope it will as fruitful as Wengen was.If anyone is going to be out of contact during the second half of June and earlyJulycan you let me know.I've reattached the submission as a word file.CheersPhilProf. Phil JonesClimatic Research Unit Telephone +44 xxx xxxx xxxxSchool of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 xxx xxxx xxxxUniversity of East AngliaNorwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxxNR4 7TJUK----------------------------------------------------------------------------Original Filename: 1212924720.txt | Return to the index page | Permalink | EarlierEmails | Later EmailsFrom: Michael Mann <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>To: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>Subject: request for some additional info.Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:32:xxx xxxx xxxxReply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxxHi Phil,I'm continuing to work on your nomination package (here in my hotel room inTrieste--theweather isn't any good!). If its possible for a case to be too strong, we may havethathere! Lonnie is also confirmed as supporting letter writer, along w/ Kevin, Ben,Tom K, andJean J. (4 of the 5 are already AGU fellows, which I'm told is important!Surprisingly, Benis not yet, nor am I. But David Thompson is (quite young for one of these). I'mguessingMike Wallace and Susan Solomon might have had something to do w/ that ;)Anyway, I wanted to check w/ you on two things:1. One thing that people sometimes like to know is the maximum value of "N" where"N" isthe number of papers an individual authored/co-authored that have more than Ncitations.N=40 (i.e., an individual has published at least 40 papers that have each beencited atleast 40 times) is supposedly an important threshold for admission in the U.S.NationalAcademy of Sciences. I'm guessing your N is significantly greater than that, andit wouldbe nice to cite that if possible. Would you mind figuring out that number andsending--Ithink it would be useful is really sealing the case.2. Would you mind considering a minor revision of your 2 page bibliography. In mynomination letter, I'm trying to underscore the diverse areas where you've mademajorcontributions, and I think its well known and obvious to many that two of these
 
areinstrumental data and paleoclimate reconstructions. But it occurs to me that it isequallyimportant to stress your work in detection of anthropogenic impacts on climate w/bothmodels and observations. For example, your early Nature papers w/ Wigley. in '80and '81seem to be among the earliest efforts to try to do this (though I don't havecopies of thepapers, so can't read them!), and that seems very much worth highlighting to me.Mysuggestion is that you add a category on "Anthropogenic Climate Signal" detectionandinclude this work (say, 8 or so of the key papers in this area including the twoearlyNature one's w/ Wigley) as well as some of your later work w/Santer/Tett/Thorne/Hegerl/Barnett. I realize that most of your work in this areaisn't asprimary author, but I do think it would be helpful to show this side of yourresearch, andI'd like to incorporate that into my nomination letter (i.e. how critical yourefforts havebeen to developments in areas such as D&A). You could still fit this onto 2 pagesbymaking the font smaller for the references (10pt rather than 11 pt) while keepingtheheadings at 11 pt, and if necessary you could probably sacrifice a few of thesurfacetemperature record references to make space for the additional references.Also, if you happen to have pdfs of the two early Wigley papers, or even just thetext forthe abstracts, it would be great to have a little more detail about those papersso I canappropriately work them into the narrative of my letter.thanks for any help,mikep.s. please tell Keith I was very sorry he was unable to make it here to Trieste,I wasreally looking forward to seeing him (as were Ed and many others here). I hope allis wellw/ his daughter.--Michael E. MannAssociate ProfessorDirector, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)Department of Meteorology Phone: (8xxx xxxx xxxx503 Walker Building FAX: (8xxx xxxx xxxxThe Pennsylvania State University email: [1]mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxxUniversity Park, PA 16xxx xxxx xxxx[2]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htmReferences1. mailto:mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx2. http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm
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