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RICHARD I. FINE TELEPHONE INTERVIEW 12/17/09
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Fine12/17/09.doc Page 1 of 8DUTTON: Mr. Fine would you explainto us what the 9th Circuit Panel hasdone with this memorandum that'sapparently unpublished? What'shappened?FINE: well, in short, and to use theopening words of the brief that I'msubmitting for an en bank hearing, thePanel has succumbed to the cancer of corruption and the criminals in judicialrobes. What they have done is that theyhave gone through and they haveviolated hundreds of years of established judicial precedent that a party cannot be a judge in his own case,and they have gone through and theyhave tried to literally emasculate thelegislative decision that the judges havereceived criminal payments.DUTTON: Now when you sayemasculate, what do you mean by that?The legislation was approved andsigned into law and it was put into thegovernment code, wasn't it?FINE: Yes. In fact, what I mean by itis there's a part of their memorandumdecision where they recognize that the payments to the judges are criminal butthen they go in and say that thelegislation SBX211 that allows the new payments to be made, the Panel tries tosay that that is attempting to emasculatethe criminality of the old payments, andin fact, that is totally wrong. First of allit's wrong because of the fact that thenew payments are only being allowedas of May 21, 2009, which is after theold payments have been made. Andsecond of all, it is wrong because in factthat would be known as an expo factolaw because the retroactive immunitythat was given by Senate bill SBX211gave immunity to these judges for getting these criminal payments. And if you were to follow the Panel'sreasoning what would happen is that thenew payments would be removing thatimmunity, and therefore, establishingnew criminal payments. And to do that,you would be violating Article I,Section 9, Laws 3 of the United StatesConstitution which says that you cannotmake an expo facto law. So basicallythat shows you how far off this Panelreally is.DUTTON: Critics of the 9th CircuitCourt of Appeals have jokingly called itthe 9th
Circus
Court of Appeals.Would you say this decision is one thatcould foster that perception?FINE: There's no question that this particular opinion is clearly violatingthe Supreme Court precedent. And the9th Circuit is bound to follow theSupreme Court. They do not have achoice. And in this opinion, they areviolating the case of
In Re Murchison
which holds that no man can be a judge
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