Week of December 18–24, 2009
Rebound Roundtable
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JONES: There’s a lot of new market op-portunity. I went to the conference forthe Action Bank. There are lots of newplayers trying to figure out what newmarkets they may be able to go after,as well as the incentives that the gov-ernment is trying to provide. There’ssome upswing there.
MORABITO: Let’s get into somedetails for next year. Is anybodyplanning on doing anything withtheir pricing for next year?
COLE: From our point of view, we’requoted. Our ability to raise prices isonly as good as our competitors’ will-ingness to do the same, so you neverknow what’s going to happen. Whenyou come out of a downturn, there’s aperiod when people are just trying tobuy work to keep their doors open. Ifthey made it this far in the downturn,they’ve got to go three, maybe six,months before something really ticksup. They’re going to just try to surviveand then perhaps you will see pricescome back up.JONES: I’m seeing a lot of situationswhere the sales cycle has elongated.What used to take three months nowtakes five, and what used to take sixnow takes eight. Companies are start-ing to adopt shorter sales cycle productmixes with what their run-of-the-millproduct might be. And they’re addingmore features and pizazz to the prod-uct to keep their prices where theywere, but there’s still margin degrada-tion.FOSTER: I think a lot of companies areredefining what was core to them andtaking a broader view of where theirproducts or services may have a mar-ket. That might result in some repric-ing because you’re in different mar-kets. I have billion-dollar LBO firmscall me about providing $30 million offinancing for one of their companiesbecause they can’t find it anywhereelse. So I’m using the same pricing,but I feel like I’m taking a lot less risk.I’m dealing with more sophisticatedcounter-parties.As you start shifting your target mar-kets, you have to rethink who you’repartnering with in order to not getout-negotiated.BROWN: Our pricing strategy reallyhasn’t changed that much in the lastyear. And it’s really driven to a largeextent by the situations that our clientsare in during this recession. Some ofthem are doing well and some aren’tdoing so well. For the ones that are,we’re able to raise our prices a littlebit, and for those that are not, we’retrying to hold the line.
MORABITO: Let’s talk about spend-ing some money. Do any of thecompanies here at the table haveany plans for capital equipment ortechnology purchases?
FOSTER: We’re rethinking real estatebecause a lot of our companies leasedduring the boom. We would havebeen better off owning this real estateand controlling the destiny of our oc-cupancy, because as I go from big tosmall, there’s volatility in our portfo-lio. One of the more intractable itemsis that these lease obligations are re-ally hurting our flexibility, so I found atop real estate advisory firm in Austinto help us. There were a lot of valuablelessons learned during the last year.BROWN: We see some unique thingswith regard to real estate as well. Welease thirty offices across the country,so we’ve gone to a real estate adviseras well. They’ll negotiate a longer-term deal for less per square footbecause prices across the country aretypically down now. That has actuallybenefitted us.COLE: Assuming that most companiesprobably put off any purchases overthe last year or two, you’re going seenatural demand increase. I think mostcompanies will buy more, but if pricesare suppressed, what do you do in themiddle to get the same return? Wecan buy things we used to rent or leaseand start getting efficiencies from acost point of view back into your in-come statement. I think all compa-nies are going to look at some way tosqueeze more out of the middle.JONES: It gets back to that four-letterword: cash. If you have cash, there aresome great equipment buys out there.If you want to upgrade your shop orproduction facility and you have thecash to pull that off, you’re getting60 or 50 cents on the dollar for brand-new equipment.
MORABITO: What are your plans inmarketing and communications inthe upcoming year? Are you plan-ning on being a bit more visiblethan you have been in the past ?
BROWN: We’re planning to hire aPR firm to help capture more marketshare. Internally, we looked at how wecommunicate among our salespeoplebecause we think we can share andgrow more leads within our company.Externally, we rolled out several newe-mail marketing campaigns on a na-tional basis that have been very effec-tive. We’ll continue to do traditionaladvertising in different publicationsthat fit our industry.FOSTER: There’s one thing you needto think about communication in this
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“I think a lot of companies are redefining what was core to themand taking a broader view of where their products or services may have a market.”
-Vince Foster
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