DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 1 IB: Basically, what Al wants me to do is to contact the mayor (UI).. RS: So you think - what was that? JB: Basically between me and you, Al, Al is basically saying in a round about way he wants me to get a hold of the gam Mayor and get his SMasllayg project approved because I heard this elsewhere. RS: So you think that Al wants, Al's gonna. | JB: For me to go to bat. RS: pressure yor | IB: To contact... | RS: In other words to contact Mark and say look, don't bust Al's balls and let him, you | think that's. i JB: Idon't think I got that kind of fggage pull | RS: ‘What do you gotta do, I mean... | JB: T want to tell you something Randy RS: What do you gotta do to do that? IB: (simultaneous) Between me and you. BB: Between me and you they're all a bunch of sila crooks down there. RS: They are, IB: Okay? These guys are all gonna look for favors. RS: Right.DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 2 JB: RS: BB: RS: JB: RS: IB: RS: JB: RS: RS: Every Samim one of those, So, he was (UD) Ts Al willing to do the favors? Well, why doesn't Al just go to the Mayor and say what do I gotta do to get the project approve. He wants you to do it? You know what I mean? That's Because somebody's ram, somebody's ramming it up Al's ass for some reason, I can't figure that part out. Why is it (UD) ‘The people are. The people. What's so... So, so, it can't be the Mayor. (Simultaneous) ‘Allimg hard to figure So, let me tell you something. Why don't you... Okay, yeah. ‘Okay, so you get the Mayor to go to the Zoning Commission and, ah, says look it, I'm, I'm supportive of this, ub, you know, everything and they approve, yes, ‘What's stopping the people from appealing it? Nothing. Right. Okay? They got an attomey. Right. So what, Ihaven',, this is, ah, yeah. Is it, see, I, ah, from what I was told, he's not asking for a ridiculous amount of homes, Is that true? He's willing to settle at a lower pace. heard he's going in for 40 some odd homes, if I have... Forty-five, yeah, but.DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 3 JB: RS: RS: IB: JB: JB: RS: JB: RS: JB: RS: JB: Forty... But, but his, if he, that's under a PRD. If he came in under a conventional subdivision, it was 12, So they're not talking chump change there, So this is worth big money to Al. Right? But what, if, if you went to the Mayor, what are you gonna do anyway, right? Ifyou went to the Mayor and said look, Al's gonna bust my balls - Al's busting my balls. Could the Mayor do anything for you? Idon't know. 1, I can't honestly say whether I can even trast the Mayor anymore. ‘You know what I mean? Ab.. He told goes so many different ways on people. He's got his own agenda too, Hah. Yeah! Why... Come on! He's more wortied about getting his house, favors for his house built, and his, right? You know what I mean? Al does the, the concrete or this guy does, Dean Cawithra did the backhoe work. Let me tell you something Randy, and this between me and you. T got enough on all those guys that I could collapse the Town Hall. I could do that, and I did not do nothing illegal. My ass is covered a hundred percent. I won't do nothing illegal and I won't do nothing. I could go to bat for him, For who? Teould go to bat for Al. (simultaneous) For Al. Okay, yeah, yeah, right, right. If this is what I need, need be.DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA. JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 4 RS: JB: RS: JB: RS: JB: RS: JB: JB: RS: RS: JB: Right. ‘And I will do that. Ican't guarantee him exactly what's gonna happen. Right. But meanwhile, why should I get slapped in the face because I want to tell you something. (laughs) «this is the next step. Why are you gonna stick your neck out, This is the next step. I'm gonna buy the Alii piece, Balog. Tl put up the bank, okay, and I'm gonna have another person which will be part of me, but my name won't be on it, buy that lot. And there is no way your commission could deny me access to that fucking lot. Right. Right. You can't! Right, because you don't have access through your, right. Okay? 1 see what you're saying, right, right, right, You can't deny me access because... Right, right. Tl sue your IM ass. Right, because you can't grant access Botti at Crown Point... And...DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA. JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 5 RS: (ui) he'll grant you access. I get ya, I think. JB: For the last 20 years, for the last 20 years everybody that’s, there's a few members that have been on that board, okay, between members or, or like John Cook and everything who had approved every crossing on that gaallammesireet, on Bridgeport Avenue and this happens to be the last crossing. RS: Right, right. IB: And you're gonna deny me. Well, you know what? RS: Tmnot. Yeah, right IB: No, no, no, I'm not, Tm just... RS: Yeah, right, right. B: Itsa figure, its a figure of speech. RS: Right, yeah, throw it in the fire, right in the fire, yeah. Throw it in, JB: Yeah. RS: See, it preheats, you know.. BB: I didn't know, RS: (laughs) IB: So, basically what I'm gonna say is number one, you allowed Wal ... RS: Want a muffin? B: No, thank you. You allowed Wal-Mart. You allowed the, the building that you just bought now, Index building, okay, it’s a cross, you allowed the Ramada Inn, you had allowed Burger King. You had allowed Peoples Bank. RS: Mmm. Monty.DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 6 IB: RS: IB: RS: IB: RS: IB: RS: JB: IB: RS: JB: RS: JB: RS: ‘You, you'r allowing Monty. Well, let's look at his Sears. Look who owns Sears. Was there, there, wasnt there wetlands at, at, ah, Sears? Yeah, so you know who owns that? ‘Yeah, DaSilva. Right. ‘Where was the wetlands on Sears? There was, ah, there was a piece there and they buried it all. It'sall gone. That's in the back. ‘You're right. Iremember that SMNMINF thing being there and just sat until they filled it in. Right, Okay? And another place that they filled and I was watching it little by little. Staples. Yeah. Okay? Right, right. There was a big AMllBMg pond over there. Right, right, right, right. Okay? ‘That was Al's buddy.: DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA i Page 7 BB: RS: JB: RS: JB: RS: IB: RS: IB: RS: BB: RS: JB: RS: RS: JAMES BOTTI ‘Yeah, ah, what the hell's his name, Mel, ah, or, ab... Ah. He's, he's a Jewish guy. Yeah, right. He's out of Bridgeport, I think, right? No, he's out of New York, I think, Is he? ‘New York, New Jersey or something. Melvin Schuller, Schlaller, or Schloler, I don't know. But anyways, you, they allowed a lot of crossings there, okay? Right. And I'm, last on that list. Right. And you're denying that. Let me tell you something, I can beat this hands down in court. Yeah, but it's time, your, your time, your times. Because, you know what I can go back to make a deal with Balog. Tl pay ya your price for it, but we gotta do this in two pieces and I gotta sue the town. Right. And if I can't get it through Steve, nobody's getting it through because you ain't... But you don't want to sue the town. Huh? You don't want to sue the town. (UI)| DATE: 12/10/2003 RS: RANDY SZKOLA JB: JAMES BOTTI Page 8 IB: RS: JB: JB: RS: 3B: RS: RS: JB: JB: RS: JB: I don't want to do that, No, righ, right, But if, once | get it through Steve, we're under contract. You get your money, meanwhile, allow me to start this here, because I'll sue it, Il sue the freaking town and I will win, Ican almost, I can guarantee a lmndred percent. They can't deny me access, But this is, but what Al's doing now, going around to other commissioners and saying he wants to kill this thing. That's SNM illegal, okay? Yep. Imean that's wrong. I don't care if t's illegal or not. It's wrong. Dont't...right? told it to his face last night at the meeting. I know you're against me Al. What meeting? The P & Z meeting, where, because I was on for a public hearing last night. What did he go for? Because he was listening on the Pinecrest, ah, that, that there shit, you know? ‘What, so what does he go to Pinecrest for? Because they're, they're going for all these units and they're... ‘Yeah. switching toa PDD. Okay? But he won't go to his own, to his own. Yeah, yeah. wetlands meetings.