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Israeli Professor Proclaims Zionism is Stupid_by Richard Grove_03-22-2010

Israeli Professor Proclaims Zionism is Stupid_by Richard Grove_03-22-2010

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Summary: During a recent interview, wherein Professor Shlomo Sand was being interviewed by a colleague of mine; I found myself witnessing a rare opportunity to take an apparent contradiction in history. As a result, herein I offer the data which helps to dissolve the illusions which are the root cause of these contradictions, thereby offering a unifying solution to the apparent schism. This article is an attempt to form a logical, reasonable, and objective response to 3 points asserted by Sand, which appear to be inaccurate; and are worthy of further study.
Summary: During a recent interview, wherein Professor Shlomo Sand was being interviewed by a colleague of mine; I found myself witnessing a rare opportunity to take an apparent contradiction in history. As a result, herein I offer the data which helps to dissolve the illusions which are the root cause of these contradictions, thereby offering a unifying solution to the apparent schism. This article is an attempt to form a logical, reasonable, and objective response to 3 points asserted by Sand, which appear to be inaccurate; and are worthy of further study.

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Sand Storms the Middle East! World-Famous Israeli Professor Proclaims “Zionism is Stupid”
in latest Interview- and not surprisingly-
 Ahmadinejad 
 
 Agrees
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Sand Storms the Middle East! World-Famous IsraeliProfessor Proclaims “Zionism is Stupid” in latest Interview-and not surprisingly-
 Ahmadinejad 
 
 Agrees
 
By Richard Grove,Tragedy and Hope Magazine March 22, 2010
Reconcilable Differences: If you Dream of Peace in the Middle East, Begin Hereto Real-ize the Reality.
Summary
: During a recent interview, wherein Professor Shlomo Sand was being interviewed by acolleague of mine; I found myself witnessing a rare opportunity to take an apparent contradiction inhistory. As a result, herein I offer the data which helps to dissolve the illusions which are the root causeof these contradictions, thereby offering a unifying solution to the apparent schism.
This article is anattempt to form a logical, reasonable, and objective response to 3 points asserted by Sand,which
appear 
to be inaccurate; and are worthy of further study.
 The week before I had reviewed the interview with Sand, I had written down this precious gem:“Georg Wilhelm Hegel taught that you can take control of history by
 provoking
crisis. This
silences
dissidents and
surprises
the enemy.”John Taylor Gatto, interviewed by Gnostic MediaFeb. 2010 Understanding what had been offered by Gatto, I added to it what I learned from Prof. Sand; the sum ofwhich led me to pose a
new hypothesis regarding potential peace
in the Middle East:
If 
we can explore our fears and learn how to resolve contradictory logic;
then
we can liberateourselves and others in the process, simply by sharing the results.
In order to precisely address the incendiary ideas of Zionism, anti-Semitism, and the other emotionally-charged topics contained in Prof. Sand’s book, this article leverages a classical methodology ofdiscerning certainty and a process of discovering meaning; and is presented in the style of a scientificexperiment in communicative media.
Part 1
: Background information on the topic of discussion.
Part 2
: Transcript containing the apparent contradictions which form the basis for this article.(found @ 38 min:56 sec ofthe interview
 
)
Part 3
: Analysis of the data collected, reconciliation of the apparent contradictions; and theformulation of a Conclusion.You can listen to theentire Interview here, and theextensive list of References can be found here. 
Sample quote from the Interview:
Jan Irvin
: Is Judaism a Race or a Religion, and what do you say to those that claim that it is aRace?
 
 
Sand Storms the Middle East! World-Famous Israeli Professor Proclaims “Zionism is Stupid”
in latest Interview- and not surprisingly-
 Ahmadinejad 
 
 Agrees
Page 2 of 19
Prof
: Shlomo Sand: they are stupid, exactly like the anti-Semitics, I think the Zionists thatthought in the past that Jewishness is a race, pure or not pure, are stupid- exactly like the anti-Semitics that thought that the Jewish are a Race. All my book is a kind of declaration, thatJewishness
cannot 
be a Race, the origins of most of the Jews is not from Palestine… and mostof the Jewish came from
conversion
.Note that a few weeks prior to all of this,Irvin published this iconoclastic conversation, with aRabbi who had presented Mahmoud Ahmadinejadwith an award for his good will and outstanding relationship withOrthodox Jews living in Iran: “Against Zionism- An Interview with Rabbi Yisrel Dovid Weiss”;
thereindemonstrating Ahmadinejad to be anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic.
 
Part 1. Scope of this Article
Primary purpose
: As the output of critical thinking and through the presentation of source materialrelevant to the topic; I seek to encourage the audience to consume the 18 reference sources used toformulate the experiment (which in practical application
 is itself 
this article). Publication of this article is ameasure of stimulating a higher-level of awareness, communication, and mutual understanding on thesubject matter; for the purposes of inspiring peace.
Secondary purpose
: To inspire Professor Sand to expand his research and future books to include theinformation provided herein, which is complimentary to his claims. Moreover, there exists the furtherpotential to resolve the apparent contradictions which appear in his interview (through the clarification ofdefinition, addition of grammar, identification of fallacies, contradictions, and other uses of rhetoric whichform the illusion of contradiction); revealing how the Hegelian dialectic has been used against all of us.
Background on the Author
:Shlomo Sand, is currently Professor of History at Tel Aviv University inIsrael; and has also taught at the University of California, Berkeley.Recently Sand was interviewed on theGnostic Media Podcast; a common ground provided by hostJan Irvinto inspire academics, authors, and experts to share their research and provide the audience withCognitive Liberty.The Gnostic Media Podcast has a global audience of almost 200,000 participants, with its goal being tosatiate the hunger of listeners and voracious readers alike; inspiring the group to sharpen each otherthrough critical thinking and debate, rather than breaking each other through conflict.Prof. Sand’s book is a presentation of the invention of what he refers to as “the myth of the Jewishpeople having a common ethnic origin”; and is best illustrated in my opinion, by this quote:“[a]t a certain stage in the 19th century intellectuals of Jewish origin in Germany, influenced bythe folk character of German nationalism, took upon themselves the task of inventing a people"retrospectively," out of a thirst to create a modern Jewish people. From historianHeinrichGraetzon, Jewish historians began to draw the history of Judaism as the history of a nation thathad been a kingdom, became a wandering people and ultimately turned around and went backto its birthplace.” (Source:Shattering a 'national mythology'by Ofri Ilani,
Haaretz
, March 2008)
Background on
:
The Invention of the Jewish People
by Shlomo Sand, 2009About the book: “Shlomo Sand argues that most Jews actually descend from converts, whose nativelands were scattered far across the Middle East and Eastern Europe.”
 
 
Sand Storms the Middle East! World-Famous Israeli Professor Proclaims “Zionism is Stupid”
in latest Interview- and not surprisingly-
 Ahmadinejad 
 
 Agrees
Page 3 of 19
“Shlomo Sand has written a remarkable book. In cool, scholarly prose he has, quite simply,normalized Jewish history. In place of the implausible myth of a unique nation with a specialdestiny – expelled, isolated, wandering and finally restored to its rightful home – he hasreconstructed the history of the Jews and convincingly reintegrated that history into the generalstory of humankind. The self-serving and mostly imaginary Jewish past that has done so muchto provoke conflict in the present is revealed, like the past of so many other nations, to belargely an invention. Anyone interested in understanding the contemporary Middle East shouldread this book.” —
Tony Judt
 Tom Segev in
Haaretz
: “One of the most fascinating and challenging bookspublished here in a long time.”Jonathan Cook in
The National 
: “Shlomo Sand’s latest work has spent 19weeks on Israel’s bestseller list.”Morgan Strong in
Consortium News
: “There has been no serious rebuttal toSand’s book, which has been a bestseller in Israel and Europe.”Israel Bartal in
Haaretz
: a “learned, captivating study … certainly worthy of aserious discussion”.
Situational Background
:Having made myself familiar with Professor Shlomo Sand’s recent book, titled:
The Invention of the Jewish People
; I had built up a great deal of respect for Sand’s extensive research, and courageousproclamations of his findings despite the status quo. I agree for the most part with the conclusionsreached in Sand’s book, based on the evidence cited; and that upon which we do not agree, I readilyadmit my ignorance and thus recognize my need to invest more time in order to understand.
Observation
:In listening to the raw-recording of Irvin’s interview with Sand; I found myself in agreement with all but 3points he asserted. These 3 points being related to, but outside the bounds of, Sand’s book; it is myhope that readers (including Sand) will indulge themselves by reviewing the books (and the respectivepages therein) listed at the end of this article.The observation which led to the undertaking of the research (to clarify the apparent contradictions)arrived in the form of my
surprise
- to Sand’s emotional reaction- in the face of Irvin’s question regardingthe Rothschild banking family.It often occurs that when someone is apprised of information which contradicts that which they thinkthey “know”; as a result of the cognitive dissonance which rushes in when we’re
adverse
to taking innew information, that is when emotional reactions are given precedent over intellectual capacity to think
before
taking action. It happens to all of us, at one time or another; and keeping emotional reactions in-check by applying our intellectual capacity to learn, provides the solution.To get to the root cause of what’s being lost due to the misdirection, ad hominem attacks, and emotionaldelivery of Sand’s claims; one must first try to understand that to which Sand is reacting, that being- theunknown- and over come the fear through a structured process of learning, critical thinking, andcommunication.

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