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Case No. 08 C 776 Division 8

COUNTY COURT BOULDER COUNTY COLORADO

1777 6th Street Boulder, CO 80306

LEONARD COHEN,

Plaintiff,

v.

KELLEY LYNCH,.

For Plaintiff:

Harvey Steinberg, Esq.

For Defendant:

Pro Se

The matter came on for hearing on September 2, 2008,before the HONORABLE CAROLYN ENICHEN, Judge of the County Court, and the following proceedings were had.

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WITNESSES:

For the Plaintiff:

KELLEY LYNCH

Direct Examination by Mr. Steinberg TRANSCRIBER'S CERTIFICATION

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1 SEPTEMBER 2, 2008

2 (Whereupon the Court convened and the following

3 proceedings were entered of record.)

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THE COURT: Thank you. Please be seated. Good

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MR. STEINBERG: Good afternoon, Your Honor.

THE COURT:

I'd like to call Case Number 2008 C

8 776, Leonard Cohen v. Kelley Lynch.

9 MR. STEINBERG: Your Honor, my name is Harvey

10 Steinberg, I'm here on behalf of Mr. Cohen. We're

11 prepared to proceed.

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THE COURT: Where's your client?

MR. STEINBERG: He is in California unable to make it, but we have witnesses and are prepared to proceed without him being here.

THE COURT: Okay.

Is Ms. Lynch in the

17 courtroom? Okay. You need to have a seat up here at

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MS. LYNCH: Oh, at that table. Also, I thought

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THE COURT:

It's irrelevant to me that he's not

MS. LYNCH: Okay.

I don't think there's any

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THE COURT: What?

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MS. LYNCH: Like they say.

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THE COURT: What did you say?

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MS. LYNCH: I said I don't think there was any

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THE COURT: Okay.

First of all, I'm going to

6 tell you the rules of the road here.

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MS. LYNCH: Okay.

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THE COURT: I am the judge who is presiding

9 over this case, and we don't have the money in Colorado

10 to have court reporters, we have tape recorders. So--

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Is this taped?

Pardon?

Is this taped?

Yes.

Can I subpoena it later?

What?

Am I able to subpoena this later?

You can apply for a transcript and

19 pay a filing fee or a transcript fee, sure. So the

20 reason I'm bringing this up is because it is very

21 important that everyone understand that we can't talk at

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MS. LYNCH: Okay. Thank you, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

For example, when I talk, no one

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the floor. When it's your turn to talk, I'll let you know as well.

MS. LYNCH: Okay. Thank you.

THE COURT: The reason that we are here is because the Plaintiff appeared on August 19, 2008, requesting a temporary protection order, and upon sworn testimony review of the attached affidavits the Court granted that. The purpose of today's hearing is for the Court to determine whether or not that temporary order should become permanent.

MS. LYNCH: Could I just ask one question at this point?

THE COURT: Yeah.

MS. LYNCH: Who gave that sworn testimony? Was

it Leonard Cohen himself?

THE COURT: It was.

MS. LYNCH: He came into this courtroom? THE COURT: He did.

MS. LYNCH: Okay. Thank you.

THE COURT: Now, with regard to today's hearing, Mr. Steinberg has indicated that he wishes to go forward on behalf of his client. And you have a decision to make. Your decision is either one

MS. LYNCH: Right.

THE COURT: -- to agree to this and to agree to

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1 not ever have any contact with him, or secondly to object

2 to it and to request an evidentiary hearing.

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MS. LYNCH:

I'd like to request an evidentiary

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THE COURT: Okay. So that's what we're going

6 to do and we're going to start right now.

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MS. LYNCH: Okay.

8 THE COURT: And it's Mr. Steinberg's burden, so

9 to speak, to go forward and show the Court why if this is

10 not issued Mr. Cohen continues to be at risk.

11 MS. LYNCH: And could you -- and will he also

12 be explaining why Robert Corey's Law Firm is protected?

13 There are serious issues here with my being defrauded --

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THE COURT: Okay. Hold on.

MS. LYNCH: -- and that kind of thing.

THE COURT: There are -- there are a lot of

17 affidavits in the file indicating that you have a long

18 history with Mr. Cohen, and there's perhaps some

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financial issues. You went to the IRS.

I want this to

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MS. LYNCH: Yeah, I'm listening. THE COURT: This hearing

MS. LYNCH: Yeah.

24 THE COURT: -- is only about the safety of the

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MS. LYNCH: Well, I understand that.

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THE COURT: Okay. So that's the subject, the

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MS. LYNCH: But at

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THE COURT: Safety of the Plaintiff.

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MS. LYNCH: But there is evidence here that

8 this man has tried to silence and terrorize me, crush and

9 destroy me --

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THE COURT: Okay.

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MS. LYNCH: -- so it's hard for me to sit here.

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THE COURT: Probably it would be if those

13 things were true, but let me tell you another thing.

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MS. LYNCH: Okay.

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THE COURT: This is not --

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MS. LYNCH: Mm-hmm.

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THE COURT: -- about whether you are at risk

18 for your safety. This is not -- that is not the issue at

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MS. LYNCH: No, this lS a preemptive legal

21 strike, but --

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THE COURT: We don't -- we don't in Colorado

23 have what are called mutual restraining orders --

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MS. LYNCH: You don't? I couldn't get a

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2 the filing fee, and allege the grounds by which you think

3 that you are in danger. But right now this moment --

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MS. LYNCH: Mm-hmm.

THE COURT: -- we are proceeding only on the

6 issue of whether or not you pose a risk to his safety.

7 MS. LYNCH: And in the future can I attack this

8 if it's brought -- if I can prove it's fraudulent and

9 there's perjury going on here?

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THE COURT: First of all I haven't even ruled. MS. LYNCH: Right.

THE COURT: But if there's a ruling that is

13 adverse to you and you -- and you wish to appeal the

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MS. LYNCH: Okay. Fine. THE COURT: As can anybody.

MS. LYNCH: Thank you very much for your time. THE COURT: You're welcome.

Mr. Steinberg, you may proceed.

MR. STEINBERG:

I call Kelley Lynch to the

stand.

THE COURT: Okay. Please come right up here. MS. LYNCH: Okay. Can I just leave my bag

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THE COURT: Whatever's more comfortable.

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MS. LYNCH: Okay.

KELLEY LYNCH

called as an adverse witness on behalf of the Plaintiff, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows:

MS. LYNCH:

I do.

THE COURT: Okay.

MS. LYNCH: Thank you.

THE COURT: Please be seated. Just make sure

9 that microphone is turned right towards you which it

10 looks like it is.

11 MS. LYNCH: And Ronald Mitchell is in the

12 courtroom and I was wondering if he had contact with

13 Cohen.

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THE COURT: What I'm going to do because I

15 don't know who that is or what this is about --

16 MS. LYNCH: Uh-huh.

17 THE COURT: is simply to make a

18 sequestration order, and I order any potential witnesses

19 to be seated in the hall and order them not to discuss

20 testimony with any other person.

21 MS. LYNCH: So would that include Mr. Ronald

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THE COURT: I have no idea if he's a witness. MS. LYNCH: He -- I don't know how he could be

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THE COURT: Well, I just -- my ruling has to do

with potential witnesses. And you also have the right to

call witnesses.

MS. LYNCH:

witnesses.

I -- I don't want to call

I have plenty for later.

THE COURT: Okay.

MS. LYNCH: But I thought perhaps Ronald

Mitchell was contacted by Leonard Cohen and it's

THE COURT:
MS. LYNCH:
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Mr. Cohen and you.
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MS. LYNCH: I don't known anything --

-- an orchestrated campaign

Let's focus here. It's about

Torturing me.

Okay.

Okay. That's fine.

THE COURT: No editorial comments, please.

MR. STEINBERG: May I?

THE COURT: You may proceed.

BY MR. STEINBERG:

DIRECT EXAMINATION

Q Can I get you to state your full name and spell

your last name for the court record, ma'am?

A Kelley Ann Lynch, L-y-n-c-h.

Q And you ~- your address?

A My address is care of Liz Craig, 7432 Brockway

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Drive, Boulder, Colorado, 80303.

I don't have a

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again.

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Okay.

So I'll probably be staying with the Craigs

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And you know who Mr. Leonard Cohen is? Obviously.

And is it correct that you were served a

10 restraining order from California, and you received that

11 restraining order in person?

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13 Q Did you ever receive one?

14 A Are you asking me about this one or one years

15 ago? When the sheriff's department was there grabbing

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contest.

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Yes.

Yes, I did. A fraudulent one that I didn't

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Okay.

So we're aware you agree that you were

21 personally served a restraining order in the state of

22 California, correct?

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Yes.

And that restraining order prevented you from

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So that meant Mr. Robert Cory about being

defrauded in huge financial issues?
THE COURT: Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me.
MS. LYNCH: Yeah.
THE COURT: When I start talking no more
talking. You on Ly: answer the question asked.
MS. LYNCH: Okay.
THE COURT: For example, he didn't ask you a
question that had to do with another person. MS. LYNCH:
THE COURT:
another person.
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THE COURT:
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THE COURT: Okay.

And you responded by talking of

All right.

I know it's hard.

Okay. I'll try.

Okay.

All right.

Thanks.

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(By Mr. Steinberg) Am I correct that you were

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We've already been through that, yes.

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And that it prohibited you from having either

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We've gotten there, yes. I understand that.

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(By Mr. Steinberg)

Either directly or

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I understood directly.

I don't really know

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Okay. Did you read a copy of the restraining

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I don't know what indirectly means at this

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I don't think that was my question. Let me ask

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I just answered my question.

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THE COURT: Excuse me.

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MS. LYNCH: I -- but I don't know what

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THE COURT: You have to stop talking the minute

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THE COURT: Plus your answer was nonresponsive.

MS. LYNCH: All right.

THE COURT: He'd asked a different question. MS. LYNCH: All right.

THE COURT: And -- and I'm just trying -MS. LYNCH: But how can I answer a question

THE COURT: to -- because --

MS. LYNCH: if I don't know what it means?

THE COURT: Okay. You can ask him to explain. MS. LYNCH: Okay. Fine.

THE COURT: Okay?

MS. LYNCH: All right.

THE COURT: And I just want to let you know

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MS. LYNCH: Right.

THE COURT: -- and so I -- I know it can be

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THE COURT: Okay.

MS. LYNCH: Thank you very much.

Q (By Mr. Steinberg) Now, what I had asked you

is did you have an option to actually read the

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restraining order that was served on you?

A I believe I read through it, yes.

Q And would you agree that it prohibited you from

having contact, either directly or indirectly, send messages, mail or email to Mr. Cohen?

A I just said I don't know what direct

indirectly means. Could you explain it?

Q Let me ask you this first. Do you agree that

the restraining order that you received and read said the following, "That you are not to contact either directly or indirectly via telephone, or send messages, or mail, or emails to Mr. Cohen?"

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I understand what you're saying.

I'm saying I

don't understand indirectly means so I can't answer the question.

THE COURT: Let me help you out. MR. STEINBERG: Okay.

THE COURT: He's not asking if you understood the language, he's asking if you recall reading the language.

MS. LYNCH:

I don't know if I recall reading

directly or indirectly. For the record.

MR. STEINBERG: May I approach? THE COURT: Sure.

MR. STEINBERG: And do I have an exhibit

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THE COURT: There should be and they're -- and

3 Plaintiffs are numbers, please.

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MR. STEINBERG: It says People's, that was my

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THE COURT: We'll go with it. MR. STEINBERG: That's fine.

I used to be a

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THE COURT: Let's see.

I can check for you.

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MR. STEINBERG: That's fine.

THE COURT: Okay. (By Mr. Steinberg)

I'm going to hand you --

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MR. STEINBERG: And I think you said numbers,

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THE COURT: Yeah.

MR. STEINBERG: If I might approach, Judge? THE COURT: Sure.

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(By Mr. Steinberg)

I'm going to hand you what

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21 sticker on the back. Could you just take a look at this

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I didn't say it could refresh it because I

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Is that

is that what you're asking me to do?

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Well first off, you had said that --

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Which section?

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Hold on. First off you had said that you had

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THE COURT: Excuse me.
MS. LYNCH: You know, it's
THE COURT: When I start talking, you stop.
MS. LYNCH: Okay.
THE COURT: He didn't finish the question.
MS. LYNCH: Okay.
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MS. LYNCH: Okay.

THE COURT: Could you please help the Court and

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MR. STEINBERG: Sure.

THE COURT: that's the subject of People --

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(By Mr. Steinberg) It was filed in October of

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Do you see that Ms. Lynch?

A November, I see, 3rd• 2005.

Q All right. Do you recall now having --

A I don't recall

Q read that document?

A having read it.

THE COURT: He hasn't

MS. LYNCH: I recall --

THE COURT: -- finished

MS. LYNCH: I thought he just asked me.

THE COURT: I -- I -- did you finish asking?

MR. STEINBERG: No, but that's all right. But

that's okay.

THE COURT: Okay.

Q (By Mr. Steinberg) Are you now saying you

never recall reading the document?

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No, I didn't say that.

can I

I'm going to

answer my question -- your question now? I recall being

served this.

Q Okay.

A I recall a lot of insanity going on at that

time, and I don't know if I specifically read all of it

like that.

Q All right. Take a --

A That's as honest as I can be.

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A Not in the restraining order.
Q Well, it is in the restraining order.
A Well, I don't understand it in both. I'd have to read it right now.

Is that what you're asking me to

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Because my -- no. My question was if you

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12 read the restraining order because it does use the word

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I was responding to your question actually at

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Okay.

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18 Q Take a look at page 2, and there's a box that's

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Q contact
A is that all right?
THE COURT: No problem.
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a chance to prove --

THE COURT: I don't want you talking when

you're not under the in the witness stand, please.

MS. LYNCH: This is just -- you know, my

child's life has been destroyed here, Your Honor.

It's

very difficult for me. This man's lawyer has a

declaration of my son's custody matter.

THE COURT: Okay. Try to compose yourself.

We're having a hearing on one issue

MS. LYNCH: But it's very serious on all

issues.

THE COURT:

I respect that. Take a moment to

compose yourself. Would you like a glass of water?

MS. LYNCH: Yeah, please.

THE COURT: I think there's a cup right next to

you.

MS. LYNCH: All right. Thank you.

THE COURT: Would you like a tissue?

MS. LYNCH: No, I have one. Thank you very

much.

THE COURT: You're welcome.

MS. LYNCH: What do you want me to read.

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Sure. May I approach?

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serious. My life has been destroyed.

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I try to be nice to everyone, so --

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Not to me, please.

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Okay.

MR. STEINBERG: May I approach?

THE COURT: Sure.

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Do you see where --

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Please don't --

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that box is?

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come near me.

I'll hand it to you there.

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Okay. Do you see where the box is where it

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Just show me where you want me to read and I'll

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Sure. Right here.

If you could read paragraph

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MR. STEINBERG: Sure. Please.

THE COURT: Okay.

MS. LYNCH: Personal conduct orders. You must

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22 11. A, check, harass, attack, strike, threaten, assault

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indirectly, telephone, send messages, mail, or email.

Peaceful written contact through a lawyer or a process

server or other person for service of legal papers

related to a court case does not violate these orders.

Now, when I read that I thought I was

representing myself, also and there's got to be a way to

communicate with someone about serious issues.

THE COURT: Excuse me, you haven't been asked a

question.

MS. LYNCH: Okay. But I'm just saying it.

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(By Mr. Steinberg)

So when you read this -- so

you did read it now. You would agree that --

A You know what?

Q -- this has refreshed your recollection --

A What did I just say?

THE COURT: First of all, you don't get to --

MS. LYNCH:

I can't have this hearing. Just go

ahead and make the restraining order permanent, okay?

THE COURT: Okay.
MS. LYNCH: I really can't.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. LYNCH: These people are insane.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. LYNCH: Okay? They've destroyed my life,
they've silenced me, they've terrorized me. Robert Cory 21

1 has a declaration of my son's custQdy matter. Can I ask

2 one question? To whom can I communicate about very

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I don't have a lawyer right

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I mean, with Leonard

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THE COURT: Judges can't give legal advice.

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MS. LYNCH: Right.

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THE COURT: Can only recommend that people get

11 attorneys, and if you're having money issues, you can

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MS. LYNCH: Right.

I'm waiting for Liz Cutler.

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THE COURT: Right now -- excuse me, Ms. Lynch.

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MS. LYNCH: Yeah.

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THE COURT: Do you wish to give up your right

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MS. LYNCH: Well, I'd like them permanent

20 because I think he's dangerous to me but may I ask

21 something? May I attack this later as fraud and perjury?

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advice, I'm just asking you the question of whether or

not you agree that the temporary order that was

previously issued today --

MS. LYNCH: Right.
THE COURT: -- this moment become permanent?
MS. LYNCH: Yes, I would like that very much.
THE COURT: Granted.
MS. LYNCH: Thank you very much.
THE COURT: You're welcome. MR. STEINBERG:

I do have one additional

request~

THE COURT: What is it?

MR. STEINBERG: Since being served Ms. Lynch

has sent me literally I'm going to say 20 to 30

different emails --

THE COURT: Has sent you?

MR. STEINBERG:

Yes.

About matters completely

irrelevant regarding this situation, IRS, Bruce Cutler,

you know, the meanderings of matters that aren't relevant

to me.

THE COURT: Mm-hmm.

MR. STEINBERG:

I have sent her a cease and

desist request --

THE COURT: Okay.

MS. LYNCH: This morning.

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MR. STEINBERG: This morning and shortly after

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MS. LYNCH: Saying I would -- I would stop and

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MR. STEINBERG:

I prefer to be in the dark and

6 I would just ask that this Court advise Ms. Lynch that I

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THE COURT: Okay.

MS. LYNCH: The Court can do that?

THE COURT: Well, it -- there are various ways

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MS. LYNCH: Mm-hmm.

THE COURT: One way is to look at you and

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MS. LYNCH: Right.

THE COURT: -- stop having any contact with

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MS. LYNCH: I will for certain.

THE COURT: Thanks.

MS. LYNCH:

I'd be more than happy. But who

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23 and the monies he owes me?

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MR. STEINBERG: There is nobody that is

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because I was never served the lawsuit in California.
THE COURT: Excuse me. Just now he said no
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THE COURT: You're welcome.

Is your name

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MS. LYNCH: Yes, it is.

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THE COURT: All right. Ms. Lynch, I have

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THE COURT: And she'll bring it in and give

each side a copy. So these are the restrictions. You're

to have absolutely no contact with the Plaintiff,

Leonard Cohen. You're to keep a distance of 100 yards

away from him. So if you just randomly run into him you

can't approach him within 100 yards.

MS. LYNCH: Is that including in a courtroom?

THE COURT: No.

MS. LYNCH: Okay.

THE COURT: You're not to have any contact with

him wherever he lives or works.

MS. LYNCH: Oh, excuse me. Could I ask about

that?

THE COURT: Yeah.

MS. LYNCH: He's on tour now so how would I

know where he is at any given moment in time?

THE COURT: Well, that's just like life itself.

One never knows. You could bump into him in the grocery

store --

MS. LYNCH: Mm-hmm.

THE COURT: -- but there

MS. LYNCH: And then what happens at that point

if you did just bump into someone inadvertently?

THE COURT: Well the police would be in charge

of determining whether or not there was a violation.

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THE COURT: -- it was not inadvertent.

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9 office that's located at 9300 Wilshire Boulevard, Los

10 Angeles, California, 80212. And finally you may not

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12 messaging or through a third party. As an example if you

13 contact Mr. Steinberg about Leonard Cohen --

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15 THE COURT: -- that would be a violation of

16 this protection order. If you violate the protection

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I have no interest in contacting

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I know, but can we name who that

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Cory. Oh, Olympic.
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have no idea. You said Olympic Boulevard.

No, I said Law Offices of Robert

It's Wilshire?

It's Wilshire.

And is that Robert Cory?

Mr. Steinberg can answer that, I

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It is.

THE COURT: Okay. Do you have any questions

about the meaning of the protection order?

MS. LYNCH: The actual meaning of it for the

purposes of the Court right now on their side?

THE COURT: Do you understand what this means?

MS. LYNCH: I understand deadly seriously what

it means.

THE COURT: Okay.
MS. LYNCH: I do.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. LYNCH: On every perspective.
THE COURT: All right. The protection order is
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TRANSCRIBER'S CERTIFICATION

STATE OF COLORADO

SS.

COUNTY OF BOULDER

I, Maureen O'Toole, do hereby certify that I have

listened to the electronic recording of the foregoing;

further that the foregoing transcript pages 1 through 28,

were reduced to typewritten form from an electronic

recording of the proceedings held September 2, 2008, in

the Boulder County Court, in the matter of Leonard Cohen

v. Kelley Lynch; and that the foregoing lS an accurate

record of the proceedings as above transcribed in this

matter on the date set forth.

DATED this 14th day of Nov 200'8. ~. ~ i

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~ Maureen 0' Toole