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On Interpretation Does Yahweh Care if His Holy Texts Are Misunderstood - Page 2 - (the second page of the public discussion)

On Interpretation Does Yahweh Care if His Holy Texts Are Misunderstood - Page 2 - (the second page of the public discussion)

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Published by Walter Muller
on interpretation: does Yahweh care if His holy texts are misunderstood? - Page 2 #11 05-06-2009, 11:34 AM reluctantchristian

Martini: Quote: should i be paying close attention to anything on the hand-out in relation to my post and raison d'tre? Just something to glance at. I'll have to go back and re-read your second link in order to fully remember WHY I posted it. Short term memory loss. reluctantchristian #12 06-03-2009, 07:34 PM Goth_Slut Quote: Originally Posted by Pikemann Urge A side-iss
on interpretation: does Yahweh care if His holy texts are misunderstood? - Page 2 #11 05-06-2009, 11:34 AM reluctantchristian

Martini: Quote: should i be paying close attention to anything on the hand-out in relation to my post and raison d'tre? Just something to glance at. I'll have to go back and re-read your second link in order to fully remember WHY I posted it. Short term memory loss. reluctantchristian #12 06-03-2009, 07:34 PM Goth_Slut Quote: Originally Posted by Pikemann Urge A side-iss

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on interpretation: does Yahweh care if His holy texts are misunderstood? - Page2 -#11 05-06-2009, 11:34 AMreluctantchristianMartini:Quote:should i be paying close attention to anything on the hand-out inrelation to my post and raison d'tre?Just something to glance at. I'll have to go back and re-read your secondlink in order to fully remember WHY I posted it.Short term memory loss.reluctantchristian #12 06-03-2009, 07:34 PMGoth_SlutQuote:Originally Posted by Pikemann UrgeA side-issue: morals change as society changes. So interpretationand emphasis on scripture depends on the priorities of society.But one could just defend against your claim: free will! Isn't thatswell!John Loftus made an interesting point about Satan: you'd have to bedumber than a "box of rocks" to rebel against infinite power andinfinite love - free will or no free will. Seriously, if you knewyou were going to lose you wouldn't bother. Can any such creature as Satan exist? Surely not.I would argue otherwise.I have often chosen the path of self destruction if I thought it wouldhurt someone else. My assumptions have often been wrong, but that hasn'tstopped me from doing it. I have a hard time accepting outside influence.Criticism or control, I don't deal well with either. It's a personal flawon some levels, but it's also something I take a perverse element of pride from as well.Suicide over servitude.Satan is a vital element of the human psyche personified. The will towill, so to speak.
 
To martini:Isn't it a fine line between misinterpreting and disobeying? Would abiblical adherent merely argue that they were not misinterpreting, butdisobeying? Twisting the scripture for sinful purposes perhaps?The law is written on the heart of every man, or some such nonsense Ithink. Can't remember the verse. Anyways, I took that to mean thatinherently, we each understand the law to a point. At least well enoughthat we should be capable of recognizing actions inconsistent withbiblical law.But then I'm probably misinterpreting. :-(Love,Goth_Slut __________________  Pikemann UrgeGoth, I guess we all have the potential to execute a scorched earthpolicy. But keep in mind that Satan is supposed to know of a perfect,invulnerable, impeachable, omniscient God. There is no 'maybe' or 'one ina million chance' with God. __________________  Pikemann Urge #14 06-04-2009, 07:37 AMGoth_SlutSometimes the most noble causes are lost ones.I always empathized with Satan more than any other biblical character. Ihave an ego. I hate being subordinate to anybody. I suppose that's why Iconsider cheating in a relationship to be a cardinal sin. Because it makes one feel so inadequate, and cast aside.Satan lived under a tyrant. Benevolent or not, a tyrant nonetheless. Tolive under the foot of another, is to deny oneself any semblance offreedom.Rebelling, to choose death over life, flaw over perfection, lies overtruth, would be the only act of freedom he would ever know.Besides, he ended up getting Hell to himself, and isn't there supposed tobe a war coming anyways?Love,Goth_Slut __________________ 
 
 #15 06-04-2009, 07:59 AMmartini7B7i would argue that there can be no benevolent tyrant. no leader whosemethod is "my way or the highway" can be loved in the manner that orthodox Xians believe. no benevolent supernatural overseer can issue the ultimatepunishment for temporal infractions against it's arbitrarily chosen laws.as far as misinterpreting versus disobeying, that reasoning can be usedagainst Xians right now. we can say that they, like their predecessors,can have no idea as to whether or not they are disobeying ormisinterpreting their supposedly holy texts because their god nevercorrects them. hah! __________________  #16 06-04-2009, 10:35 AMreluctantchristianMartini:Quote:as far as misinterpreting versus disobeying, that reasoning can beused against Xians right now. we can say that they, like theirpredecessors, can have no idea as to whether or not they aredisobeying or misinterpreting their supposedly holy texts becausetheir god never corrects themThe texts are often conflicting, but perhaps it's our place to try andfind the balance and harmony within the conflict. Maybe there isn't a need for correction, but a need for balance on our parts. Just a thought.Goth:Quote:I always empathized with Satan more than any other biblicalcharacter. I have an ego. I hate being subordinate to anybody.How do you feel about people being subordinate to you?In the O.T., Satan had a job to do, but was still subordinate to God. Hestill had limits he couldn't breach.Quote:Satan lived under a tyrant. Benevolent or not, a tyrant nonetheless. To live under the foot of another, is to deny oneself any semblanceof freedom.We are all subject to something. Time, disease, death, random awfull stuff happening. And we are subject to good things as well.

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