Welcome to Scribd, the world's digital library. Read, publish, and share books and documents. See more
Download
Standard view
Full view
of .
Look up keyword
Like this
2Activity
0 of .
Results for:
No results containing your search query
P. 1
JS - To Secede or Not to Secede

JS - To Secede or Not to Secede

Ratings: (0)|Views: 89 |Likes:
Published by Juan del Sur
To Secede or not to secede, that is the question

The following introductory paragraphs contain links to six legal and biblical research articles addressing the subject of state secession, starting with an original article by Edwin Vieira, followed by an opposing opinion by Timothy Baldwin, a response by Edwin Vieira, an opposing legal opinion by Timothy Baldwin, a biblical argument by Pastor Chuck Baldwin, and a response to Timothy Baldwin by Edwin Vieira.

The six articles discuss in some detail, historical, biblical, and legal arguments supporting and critiquing the subject of state secession. All documents are an integrated version of the separate articles, and all are downloadable from Scribd.com. For continuity sake, it is probably sensible to read the articles in the sequence provided below.

To Secede or not to secede, that is the question

The following introductory paragraphs contain links to six legal and biblical research articles addressing the subject of state secession, starting with an original article by Edwin Vieira, followed by an opposing opinion by Timothy Baldwin, a response by Edwin Vieira, an opposing legal opinion by Timothy Baldwin, a biblical argument by Pastor Chuck Baldwin, and a response to Timothy Baldwin by Edwin Vieira.

The six articles discuss in some detail, historical, biblical, and legal arguments supporting and critiquing the subject of state secession. All documents are an integrated version of the separate articles, and all are downloadable from Scribd.com. For continuity sake, it is probably sensible to read the articles in the sequence provided below.

More info:

Categories:Types, Research
Published by: Juan del Sur on Apr 15, 2010
Copyright:Attribution Non-commercial

Availability:

Read on Scribd mobile: iPhone, iPad and Android.
download as PDF, TXT or read online from Scribd
See more
See less

07/13/2010

pdf

text

original

 
JS – Articles on Secession
Page 1 of 4
To Secede or not to secede, that is the question
The following introductory paragraphs contain links to six legal and biblical research articlesaddressing the subject of state secession, starting with an original article by Edwin Vieira,followed by an opposing opinion by Timothy Baldwin, a response by Edwin Vieira, anopposing legal opinion by Timothy Baldwin, a biblical argument by Pastor Chuck Baldwin,and a response to Timothy Baldwin by Edwin Vieira.The six articles discuss in some detail, historical, biblical, and legal arguments supporting andcritiquing the subject of state secession. All documents are an integrated version of theseparate articles, and all are downloadable from Scribd.com. For continuity sake, it isprobably sensible to read the articles in the sequence provided below.
I. A DISSENTING OPINION ON “SECESSION”
By 
Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
 February 1, 2010The Internet is awash with articles in the patriotic ether that promote “secession” of one ormore States from the United States as advisable, practical, and even necessary. Typically, theauthors of these proposals define “secession” (at least implicitly) as the purported legal,political, and moral right of a State to leave the Union, unilaterally and at her own discretion, without the approval of or even any participation in the process by any other State or theGeneral Government in Washington, D.C. Some of these authors contend that theConstitution itself allows for such “secession”. Others argue that, whatever the Constitutiondoes or does not countenance in that regard, “secession” is now permissible, and evenimperative, under the principles of the Declaration of Independence, because the GeneralGovernment has, as a “Form of Government”, “become[ ] destructive of the[ ] ends” for whichit was first instituted. And more…http://www.scribd.com/doc/26398443/Edwin-Vieira-A-Dissenting-Opinion-on-Secession 
 
II. A CONCURRING OPINION FOR SECESSION
By 
Timothy N. Baldwin, JD.
 February 4, 2010 – February 24, 2010One of my most highly esteemed colleagues,
Edwin Vieira
, wrote a recent article entitled,
“A Dissenting Opinion On ‘Secession’,”
to which I feel compelled to respond, for acouple of reasons: (1) many people (including me) highly respect Vieira’s opinion andanalysis, as he has proven himself to be an extremely intelligent person and favorable to thecause of freedom; and (2) the matter of freedom is too crucial not to be publically debated.Truth being the ultimate objective, I claim the same liberty as Emer De Vattel in his renownedexposition, The Law of Nations: “My pen lies under no restraint, and I am incapable of prostituting it to flattery. I was born in a country of which liberty is the soul, the treasure, and
 
JS – Articles on Secession
Page 2 of 4
the fundamental law.” Emer De Vattel,
The Law of Nations
, (Indianapolis, IN, Liberty Fund, 2008), 20. And more…http://www.scribd.com/doc/26576127/Timothy-Baldwin-A-Concurring-Opinion-for-Secession 
 
III. THOUGHTS ON “A CONCURRING OPINION”
By 
Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
 March 3, 2010 through April 8, 2010I welcome the opportunity to have an ethereal discussion with Timothy Baldwin—it will not be a “debate”, as we agree on too much—concerning “secession,” not only because of theintrinsic value of the subject, but also because of Mr. Baldwin’s erudition and gentlemanlmanner. No one in this discussion will, to use his words, “try to paint advocates for states’rights as loony, nutty, irrational, or otherwise enemies to the union”—because we all know that “some of the most well-recognized[,] intelligent and articulate statesmen and patriotsthroughout America’s history have advocated the right of States to secede from the Union, both under the Articles of Confederation and United States Constitution”. And we also know that many eminent statesmen and patriots have taken the opposite position. Interestingly,too, both Mr. Baldwin and I “advocate[ ] the right of States to secede”,
albeit in someparticulars under different circumstances and procedures
. Which points up a problem inthis discussion: namely, that “the right of a State to secede” means different things todifferent people—not all of whom are careful to define their terms—which no doubt is why there has been so much (probably unnecessary) dissension on this subject over the years. And more…http://www.scribd.com/doc/27801278/Edwin-Vieira-Thoughts-on-a-Concurring-Opinion 
 
IV. SECESSION OR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
By 
Timothy N. Baldwin, JD.
  April 15, 2010 We must recognize today: the most foundational principles of self-government, the consent of the governed and the existence of a Higher Law founded in God confirm that separation is notonly a right, but also a duty and obligation of a body-politic, when it becomes clear to that body that separation is necessary, all of the constitutional arguments and posturing in the world notwithstanding.Dr. Edwin Vieira has released his (presumably) final responses (“Thoughts On ‘A ConcurringOpinion’”) to my responding articles (“A Concurring Opinion For Secession”) to his originalarticles (“A Dissenting Opinion On Secession”). While I was hesitant to respond at all to Vieira’s articles, and as I shall forego directly responding to what I believe are incorrectinsinuations, commentaries and conclusions, I must observe and highlight a very importantmatter relative to a state’s right and duty to free itself from tyranny. For in truth, Vieira
 
JS – Articles on Secession
Page 3 of 4
admits to the precise conclusion that a State does have a natural right to separate itself from apolitical tie.Specifically put, the Declaration of Independence appeals not to a constitution for a basis, or a justification, of secession–even though a constitution existed at that time–but to the SupremeJudge of the world and to the natural laws God created. Given the supreme nature of thisright of secession, a different body-politic at a different time in human affairs has the sameinherent right as did the colonies in 1776. And more…http://www.scribd.com/doc/29964863/Timothy-Baldwin-Secession-or-Declaration-of-Independence 
 
 V. A CONCURRING (BIBLICAL) OPINION FOR SECESSION
By 
Pastor Chuck Baldwin
  April 23, 2010My son, Tim Baldwin, who is a constitutional attorney, recently engaged my friend, attorney Ed Vieira, Jr., in a spirited and intellectual written debate on the rightness or wrongness of State secession. Vieira took the unionist position that states do not have the constitutionalright to secede. Tim took the freedomist position that states have both a constitutional andNatural Law right to secede (a position with which I firmly agree, as most readers know).One element that neither writer covered (understandably so, given the legal nature of thedebate) was the BIBLICAL right of secession. Christians rightly square everything with theprinciples and precepts of the Holy Scriptures. So, is there Biblical approbation and authority for State secession? And more…http://www.scribd.com/doc/30402204/Chuck-Baldwin-A-Concurring-Biblical-Opinion-for-Secession 
 
 VI. GOSSAMER WINGS
By 
Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr.,
 
Ph.D., J.D.
 May 12, 2010In his latest series on “
Secession or Declaration of Independence
”, particularly Parts 4and 5, Mr. Timothy Baldwin raises some interesting points. (see:http://www.scribd.com/doc/29964863/Timothy-Baldwin-Secession-or-Declaration-of-Independence)Unfortunately, he misconstrues my meaning when he attributes to me the notion that (in his words) “as long as the [General G]overnment is executing laws, regulations, restriction,mandates, etc., ‘in the name of doing good’, then such a regime and such acts are not

You're Reading a Free Preview

Download
/*********** DO NOT ALTER ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE ! ************/ var s_code=s.t();if(s_code)document.write(s_code)//-->