methane hydrate frequency - dissociation: Discussion 06-02-10
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Vincent Cataldi Richard C. Hoagland: methane hydrate frequency - dissociationwww.facebook.comwww.facebook.comSunday at 9:52pm · Comment · Unlike · ShareYou and Kathleen Marcelli like this.Vincent Cataldi Deepwater Horizon - Draft 1.Ahttp://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=391702826491 Sunday at 9:52pm ·Greg Ahrens Vincent, that ultrasound idea sounds good. Bust up those pesky methane hydrate "ice cubes" just like kidney stones!Sunday at 10:47pm ·Vincent Cataldi Greg:That is the method to make them explosively unstable;I think this is what Roo found HAARP doing; why the 'deep' pressures are surging wildly; belching to clear the vertical rise of the wells in the Gulf, and North Sea; if so, a cascade potential threatens -especially if energized by 'ultrasound'.Monday at 12:36am ·Roo Reindeer Your discussion of what amounts to "inter-related non-linear' uncertainties and phase changes is very important. Particularly with people throwing the idea of nukes around. I see from thismap here that the gulf is one area where considerable sources of MH have been located.http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/05/could-methane-t/ you will notice two locations in the gulf, pert near the DH drilling site! How convienient.There are numerous articles relating to runaway release of methane from warming MH deposits. It really doesn't matter to what cause you attribute global warming. The release of methane will make itway worse. Although probably not this bad:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian-Triassic_extinction_event Destabilzation of these deposits could be far worse then just the current oil mess. But that raises a new paranoid possibility that the release of that methane may be a goal of this "event".As far as anything involving HARRP (see disclaimer below) and methane release I hadn't considered that. Stupid me! It might be possible to do that without anyone even really noticing since unlikeearthquakes and volcanoes, it could be a slow subtle heating that would raise no flags until it popped off.Disclaimer: The "HARRP" I have been writing about has no relationship to the well known "HAARP" organization. Superficial resemblence to HAARP or any other organization living or dead, real or imaginary is purely coincidental. Like a lot of other things.Monday at 1:11am ·Greg Ahrens OOPS. I was thinking of breaking up the methane hydrates that were clogging the first containment dome attempt.But clearly this whole business of extracting volatile fluids and gases from that depth below the ocean surface is crazy.I thought the CBS 60 Minutes piece said the Deepwater Horizon experiment was the deepest offshore well ever attempted. I have not been able to verify that yet.I came across another attempt at an even greater depth.Shell Oil has a rig called the "Perdido Spar" off the coast of Texas near Galveston that is attempting to drill in 9,000 feet of water and another 8,000 feet of mud, salt, and rock below that.And get this: the portion of the rig called the spar, below the water surface (not including the riser pipes) has a height (or depth) of 555 feet.That just happens to be the height of the (Masonic) Washington Monument .This one rig will be attempting to service a field the size of Houston. Certainly one to keep an eye on. I also recommend prayers.,,,,,http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-02/extreme-engineering-deepest-oil-well Monday at 1:40am ·Storm Thor its good you guys have this all figured out ...Monday at 1:40am ·Vincent Cataldi Greg: I understood exactly what you were thinking - a logical first thought; I am very pleased you engaged seriously to help with what I see potentially as an important issue for team-work to consider.Roo: I've been waiting for you :)I began my 'flash' education explicitly for the reason you state; I saw people "Giving Up" with statements like 'How could it be any worse'?, and 'Russia is laughing at us';I got in their face every time, this was not an acceptable "public opinion" to me, and I made sure Everyone knew my position: but it was only my hunch initially.I worked to Spell Out for all to read, the complexities of unknowns - spent two days researching to prove myself wrong - I could not; with my amateur view, we can not accept a 'nice little nuke' toquickly solve our problem - no quick fix here - and it may not have finished "starting" to look ugly.I suspect this Concept IS related to what you discovered - yet only you are truly qualified to tell us if I am wrong with certainty; so I did research, compiling data so you could most easily give us allanother assessment - an opinion I and others respect greatly.My question: can (should) we view the highly fractured Gulf of Mexico Impact Zone (Chicxulub Impact Crater ??), now ringed with (oil/gas producing) bore holes (vents), as a virtual "Caldera" ringed by virtual volcanoes; covered by an "explosive" cap of stratified rock embedded with temperamental MH - the virtual caldera cap over the virtual lava dome - and if no - why not ?One can envision for use the MH 'locked' precariously in the rock strata, from the ocean floor down to the crude oil/gas reservoir, as a blasting cap; a primer cascading to envelope the entire fracturedcircumference of, highly pressurized - explosively saturated - crude (lava) vault; which if 'energized properly' (naturally or otherwise) could flash-over as a grease fire of enormous scale ?