campinoy

you better close your spa or whatever massage you offer if you have to be saying these worthless words....your not so professional then if there are sexual advances that your customers can see in you...maybe youre too seductive or since your are from the south border,,,,they may perceive you as "tilapia" or "putang manok" hence your writing such articles..c'mon...be professional..

angiecabauatan

To Yunesa, Now I understand what you trying to do and why you are helping our fellow Filipinos. I have no intention to debate and and no intention to offense anyone at all. I am just commenting on some things that I don't understand and things I can't agree in the document; "Preventing and Avoiding Sexual Advances During Spa and Massage Sessions" on how to handle clients that are breaking the boundaries of the professional relationship. I will not going to mention the details to avoid conflicts that may arise in my comment. I admit my mistake about not to being certain in those things that I've not agreed to. So that's why my comment seems to be negative. I would like to close this issue to make peace with everybody especially to those people that are offended with my comment. We are all in the same profession, so it is better to move forward as a whole for a good future. For you Yunesa, keep up the good work and best luck with your good intentions. AC

yunesa

Posted Jan 13, 2009 12:59 PM Catherine Pritzker Chicago, IL I think she misinterpreted what Eunice wrote. But the way she said the things that she said: it's downright prejudicial, inappropriate and uncalled for. I would like to back up all the writings of Eunice, we are behind her all the way. As Eunice said, she does not want to name drop so perhaps the safest thing to say is that this commentator can come to Chicago and we can let her know what Eunice work has done for us and how tremendously she has helped us. The commentator should know what she is after.... and better shut her mouth. CP

yunesa

I posted this email without the sender's identity, because as much as possible, I do not want to name drop, but whoever wants to get the email address of this sender from me, I can easily give you his email. Thank you Eunice ======= Eunice, As a USA professional Massage therapist, Aesthetician, and Spa therapist for 15 years, I see nothing wrong with your views. She does not have much credibility because she fails to clarify her statements specifically and back them up with fact, not opinion. In America a Massage therapist is not a Medical Professional, but a wellness professional. We can not diagnose, prescribe, treat, or use chiropractic or physical therapy methods on our clients without violating our professional ethics. Lastly, She said " I've been in this practice overseas throughout my whole career life". Therefore, has never worked in the Philippines so what does she know about Hilot or Philippine Massage? Also what she does not know is that you have worked and trained spas in Asia, along with handling the complete operation of a spa in Europe. Keep up the good work.

yunesa

Posted Jan 11, 2009 5:47 PM Surely the comment came from someone who did not fully understand what you wrote in the articles. Dan_and_Madeline Irving, TX

yunesa

Posted Jan 12, 2009 2:57 AM Netski64 Singapore, SG I have been attending meetups regularly and I have listened to Eunice's lectures, I have read her book and research papers and I can say she has been doing her homework. And she also writes where she gets her sources from. But we are all humans and nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes now and then. A word of advise: If someone makes a mistake in his/her information and we would like to comment or correct the wrong info, let us do it professionally and constructively, not criticize negatively and put the person down saying words like " I am wondering what kind of Massage trainings nor Massage schools you had studied with?" Let us apply the golden rule please, because when our chance comes to write our own articles we don't want to hear comments like that too, do we? Jevren is right, when we are correcting the mistake, we should also acknowledge where we got our sources from, para may point of reference tayo lahat, we can all read the correct info and we can all learn from it. We all wanted everyone to treat our business with respect, gusto nating umangat ang reputasyon natin as Massage Therapists, but it all starts with ourselves, so let us do things professionally and HELP ONE ANOTHER. We belong to the same group, and we should encourage one another "professionally" para umangat tayo lahat. Nette

yunesa

Before commenting, let me encourage everyone to READ three of my articles online (just click on the link below) because you will not be able to understand if you have not read these three articles, to see if I have insinuated anything that will jeopardize professional boundaries of a massage/spa therapist or I have disrespected people or their culture without knowing it. Tao lang po, baka meron lang akong nakaligtaan ohhh dapat i-edit (I might need to edit something or have forgotten to include anything). Let me know. Thank you. yunesa@yahoo.com ---- Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:22 AM From: "Jevren" <sibugjevren@yahoo.com>View contact detailsTo: massage-6@meetup.com Hello Eunice... I have read the three articles mentioned below. As for me, I did not find any facts or ideas that is sound unethical or unprofessional in nature... It is the author's priveledge to write for some experiences and opinion be included in some facts.... The way I understand her letter, the COMMENTARIST did not specially indicate particular phrase, line/s or paragraph that needs to be corrected but rather giving an insult and humiliation to the author as a whole. Your COMMENTARIST approached seems to me more unprofessional! In my case as a former auditor, before we correct or comment in certain issue (particularly in some write ups), we need to specify the statement/s given, like saying the line number or copy the statment as it is and give your appropriate correction. If we want to help/ to improve certain things we need to present also evidencial facts/ guide not opinionated information. Criticizism can be constructive and destructrive, it is on how we understand it or it is how we present or say our comments. But the letter presented below I personally find it destructive. My personal advice to you Eunice, people like this commentarist should not be given more time rather continue doing good work (Hindi ka nagiisa sa crusade na ito- Nandito po kami buong pwersa ng PMTAI). But it is also good that you raised this matter objectively on your good intention to rectify things...if there is..pero wala naman To your COMMENTARIST, she has to learn the right values or professional ethic in givng some comments... As guide for your commentarist, first, identify statements that you think wrong in the given articles... copy them as it is and then write your correction supported by some facts after every findings you noted. Once you (commentarist) have done this tell us if you want a debate on certain idea or simply you want to share information or help. God Bless..to everyone JEVREN