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Terence McKenna - 1993 - Fez in NY

Terence McKenna - 1993 - Fez in NY

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Terence McKenna: Live in New York

Terence McKenna: Live in New York
Produced by Nicholas Hill for live broadcast on The Music Faucet, WFMU-FM, East Orange, NJ from The Fez, New York City June 20, 1993
Well it's great to be here. It's been kind of a long day for me, so I may not be able to maintain the ordinary veneer of genteel, cultured affability. I may have to simply cut to the chase here. You know, we've worked ourselves into quite a little situation here. We've got a rising youth culture,
Terence McKenna: Live in New York

Terence McKenna: Live in New York
Produced by Nicholas Hill for live broadcast on The Music Faucet, WFMU-FM, East Orange, NJ from The Fez, New York City June 20, 1993
Well it's great to be here. It's been kind of a long day for me, so I may not be able to maintain the ordinary veneer of genteel, cultured affability. I may have to simply cut to the chase here. You know, we've worked ourselves into quite a little situation here. We've got a rising youth culture,

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Terence McKenna: Live in New York 
Terence McKenna:Live in New York
Produced by Nicholas Hill for live broadcast on The Music Faucet,WFMU-FM, East Orange, NJ from The Fez, New York City June 20,1993
Well it's great to be here. It's been kind of a long day for me, so I may not be able to maintain the ordinaryveneer of genteel, cultured affability. I may have to simply cut to the chase here.You know, we've worked ourselves into quite a little situation here. We've got a rising youth culture, agovernment out of control, an environment that's all ripped up, and we've got no place to go. So, who yougonna call? My solution in a situation like that is to roll another one.
[laughter]
Because it's been mysupposition for a long, long time that these vegetables that we're pushing around on our plates are actuallytrying to talk to us. And they're saying all kinds of things, among them some things which are fairlycounterintuitive. It seems to me that history has failed, and Western civilization has failed, and dominator-primate politics has failed, object-fetish consumerism has failed, the national security government hasfailed. And so then, where do go from here? What kind of new world can we create? And what kind of guidelines are there that we can follow?And I -- you know, every time you come to New York it's obligatory to visit the museums, MOMA,this'n'that, see what's going on in Soho. The conclusion that I come to looking at this is that as we movebeyond modernity, it's more and more clear that the real impulse of the Twentieth Century is towards thearchaic, toward the primitive. Everything from Freudianism to body piercing, from quantum physics toabstract expressionism, from Dada to house music, is saying "
back away
" from the linear, constipatedworld of print-head materialism that is what we inherit from the Western/European past. That style of thinking about life and human relations has essentially toxified the planet and allowed us to paintourselves into a corner from which there is no escape.Or is there? You know, a deliberate derangement of the senses worked for Rimbaud; it might work for usas well. What we have to do is go to the rainforests, the aborigines, and check up -- check in -- on what wehave always dismissed, which is the world of natural magic and wisdom obtained through intoxication.This is what we've lost, and this is why our creativity is insufficient to overwhelm the cultural crisis whichis confronting us. We have to stir it up. We have to mix it up. Ideas dictated out of the agenda of washed-up capitalism and science and religion is simply insufficient. Reason has failed. History has failed. Andwhat we all have to do, I think, is fall back on ourselves. We have to stop waiting for the revelation tocome from CNN or Time Magazine, and get lives! And what getting lives means is ignoring the idioticlaws that would dictate to us the kind of states of mind that we can entertain.
[applause]
You know, I'msure it was alarming to Buddhists, but the Supreme Court decision last week that okayed animal sacrificein a religious context was a door swinging open on the possible legalization of psychedelics.
[applause]
 The concept of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" is enshrined in the documents upon which thisnation of ours is supposedly founded. If the pursuit of happiness does not mean the right to experimentwith your own state of mind, then those words aren't worth the hemp they're written on.
[laughter]
 But the point of view that I've come to evolve out of 25 years of looking at this problem and churningthrough culture and so forth and so on is not simply a call for individual self-responsibility and a pulling
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away from these institutions. That's pretty standard fare, I think. There's something else going on which isworth talking about. And that is the fact that the human world is apparently under the influence of somekind of attractor, or force, that secular people have ignored because the only words to talk about it were thevocabularies of beastly, bankrupt religions. But nevertheless, this force, this unfolding agenda, this designwhich we seem to embody, needs to be talked about. Because I really believe that history is ending. AndI've taken a lot of flak for that, because no one can conceive of the breakdown of the system in whichwe're embedded to that degree. It's a kind of transcendental faith that history is accelerating. The rate of the ingression of novelty into three-dimensional space is asymptotically increasing. The kind of knittingtogether that is taking place in the world is laying the stage for the emergence of new forms of organization, new properties of being. And I really think that the drama of life on this planet is pointedtoward the time that we are living in, that we're approaching a symmetry break on a scale of the kind of symmetry break that occurred when life pulled its slimy bottom out of the sea and crawled onto the land.We are approaching the symmetry break where we shed the monkey, we shed the hardwired negativeanimal impulses that keep us chained to the Earth and deny us our dreams of completion.History is a kind of indicator of the nearby presence of a transcendental object. And as we approach thetranscendental object, history will become more and more hallucinatory, more and more dreamlike, moreand more surreal -- does this sound familiar to you? It's the neighborhood, right?
[laughter]
That's becausewe are so close now to this transcendental object, that is the inspiration for religion and vision andrevelation, that all you have to do to connect up to it is close your eyes, smoke a bomber, take five gramsof mushrooms in silent darkness, and the veil will be lifted, and you seen, then, the plan. You see what allthese historical vectors have been pointing towards. You see the transcendental object at the end of time --a cross between your own soul and the flying saucer of cheap science fiction. I mean -- the city of Revelations, hanging at the end of the Twentieth Century like a beacon. I really think that this ishappening, and that what the -- It's as though we are boring through a mountain, towards someone elsewho is boring through that mountain, and there will be a handshake at a certain point in time. We aremoving, literally, into the realm of the imagination. This is where the human future lies. This has beenunderstood by some people since at least the time of William Blake.We are like creatures caught in a interrupted embryogenesis: halfway to angelhood, the worst among ussomehow got control of the social agenda, and we've been hammering on each other with monotheism,racism, sexism, materialism, for the past 10,000 years. We betrayed the aboriginal intellect, the aboriginalintelligence, that existed for probably a hundred thousand years with drama, with poetry, with altruism,with courage, with self-sacrifice -- with all the higher values that we think of as human -- but without thedevastatingly toxifying habits of Western Man: slavery, city-building, kingship, and, the three M's --monogamy, monotony, and monotheism.
[laughter]
These things have to be pitched out!Or, maybe not. Who knows?
[laughter]
 
Woman in audience:
What's wrong with monogamy?What's wrong with monogamy. What's wrong with monogamy is that it, uh, it forbids and interferes withpolygamy!
[laughter and applause]
Otherwise, I think it has a lot to recommend it! Yeah, I know,monogamy is a tough one. Monogamy is a tough one, but I have more and more the feeling that as yougrow up, just as you're about to go across the great Golden Gate Bridge to adulthood, there's one last sign,which says, "LAST EXIT BEFORE AUTHENTIC ADULTHOOD. BECOME ADDICTED TOSOMEONE AS LAME AS YOURSELF, AND MAYBE THE TWO OF YOU CAN PASS YOURSELFOFF AS ONE INDIVIDUAL AND STUMBLE THROUGH LIFE TO COMPLETION." [much laughter]
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Same woman:
But what's wrong with it?TM: I don't think you should take me too seriously -- I'm deeply into a divorce.
[laughter]
But I'm sure it'snot distorting my judgment a single iota.
[laughter]
 Gee, I thought what you were going to object to was monotheism, but apparently not! No, see, here's thething: back when mushrooms and nomadism ruled the world, monogamy was traded in for an orgiasticsocial style. And what's interesting about orgy -- besides that -- is that in an orgiastic situation, men cannottrace lines of male paternity. And consequently, loyalty goes to the children of the group. It's a tremendousforce for group cohesion that the men collectively transfer their loyalty to the children as a collectivegroup. And it creates a very tightly-knit social unit. I think that -- I mean, it's absurd -- you can't advocateorgy in a world riddled with epidemics of sexually-transmitted diseases and five and a half billion people.Nevertheless, the spirit of the thing can be worked out between you and your friends in any of a number of ways, and all of these arrangements which break the dominator mold are further permission for furtherbreaking of the mold.Why have we grown so polite as they have grown so much more treacherous and weasel-like? Why are weso content to allow the worst among us to set the social agenda? In the absence of Marxism, there is nowno critique being carried out of the capitalist enterprise, and it'll peel your skin off and peddle it back toyou. It is doing that. Capitalism in principle is not, I think, a bad thing, but it requires endlessly-exploitablenatural resources. And since the exploration of space has been taken off the agenda, there is no endlessly-exploitable frontier. So capitalism is going to deal itself out of existence, but before it does that, you'regonna pay $50 for a latte, because inflation is going impoverish all of us before people get pissed off enough to realize that all of the last hundred years of economic progress was actually a shell game tocreate billionaires, while the great masses of people saw their standard of living eroded and destroyed.You don't have to take psilocybin to figure this stuff out. You know, it isn't all elf machines fromhyperspace!
[laughter]
 Somebody asked me what did I think was going to happen in 2012? And I said there were probably anumber of scenarios. One of the most radical I can imagine is that everyone would begin to behaveappropriately! I mean, can imagine what that would be like? You can imagine the first minute, because inthe first minute, of course, everyone would turn off their console, take off their clothes, and walk outside.What happens after the first minute, in terms of appropriate activity, staggers the imagination! And whereyou would be three weeks into it is preposterous to even conceive. That's the soft version of the coming of the millennium. The hard version, I'm not really even sure... In the Amazon -- in my book 
True Hallucinations
I wrote about my brother and myself and our adventures down there. His expectation --once, he told me, "People are leaving their workbenches and offices with tears of joy streaming down theirfaces. They're staring at the sky." Fool that I was, I believed him. But it's a reasonable hope.Here's the deal. We have the science, the technology, the money, the infrastructure, to do almost anythingthat we want to do. The problem is changing our minds. We have a hell of a time changing our minds. Andyet, we must. There is no choice about it. The reason I'm a psychedelic advocate is not because I think it'seasy, or because I think it's a sure thing -- I don't think it's easy or a sure thing. It's simply that it's the onlygame in town. Nothing else can change your mind on a dime like we are going to have to change ourminds on a dime. If we had 500 years to sort this out, we could maybe have a fighting chance withoutradical pharmacological intervention. As it is, if we don't awaken, we are going to let it slip through ourfingers.And if hortatory preaching could do it, then the Sermon on the Mount would have turned the trick. It didn't
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