11 reworked to take account of this new material.12 Q. Was that on 4th September?13 A. The discussion was on 4th September. A new draft,14 I think, was then put together and circulated to JIC15 members, because there were quite a few changes, on16 5th September and the resulting assessment was issued on17 the 9th.18 Q. We can see that at CAB/17/3.19 A. Yes. Yes. And, in fact, what we are looking at there20 is a change in the drafting, which I think was21 recommended by my staff to ensure that the inclusion of22 intelligence on 45 minutes reflected more accurately the23 wording of the original CX report -- CX is the phrase we24 use to refer to the intelligence reports produced by25 SIS.891 Q. On 10th September, at CAB/33/131, Mr Scarlett produced2 a memorandum commenting on Alastair Campbell's note of3 9th September, in which he said this in paragraph 1:4 "Alastair did not refer to an additional section,5 which I have agreed with him, would be considered for6 inclusion in the 'dossier'. This would give an account7 of the JIC assessment of developments in Iraqi WMD8 programmes since UNSCOM inspectors were withdrawn in9 late 1998."10 Did that reflect any discussions you had had amongst11 members of the JIC?12 A. Well, it was certainly my strong view that if there was13 to be a section which drew heavily on intelligence, that14 this should be under the control of the JIC; and I was15 aware, from the attendance of SIS staff at meetings in16 No. 10 before that was written, of what was intended.17 Q. The dossier, or the next draft of the dossier is dated18 10th/11th September 2002. We can see that at DOS/2/2.19 A. Okay.20 Q. And I think you have the material available to you. At21 DOS/2/37, we can see what was then said about the22 45 minute source:23 "Within the last month intelligence has suggested24 that the Iraqi military would be able to use their25 chemical and biological weapons within 45 minutes of an901 order to do so."2 Did you see the dossier drafted on 10th or3 11th September?4 A. Yes, I certainly would have done, in preparation for the5 JIC meeting that took place on 11th September. I mean,6 it is normal practice for me to be closely briefed by my7 staff before attending the full JIC meeting; and, in8 fact, the process of putting together the dossier was9 covered very closely on a day-to-day basis by the team10 that I had working on it. Although it is some time ago11 and I do not have a precise recollection of every12 exchange, I was kept closely involved.13 Q. Was there any discussion of the draft dossier on14 11th September?15 A. At the JIC meeting?16 Q. Yes, sorry, at the JIC meeting.