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Aug.
4,2005
Host
Ms. Alison Barter
2E572
The Pentagon
Transcriber
~urphyON BACKGROUNDMs.
Bater
Thanks for binh us
to&
We want
toget
started right
away.
We appreciate
your
interest
and
your
time
oday
Drank you for
being
here,
and bryour
time.
~nd
with that,justas a reminder, this
is
en
background.
We'vegotacoupkopeningstatements,
I
hmkyou weregoing
b
alk about a
few
Ihmga and then
we'll
go
Into questions.-yes.
I
would ust briefly Hey guys,
good
to
be
Â¥
ou againÑÑÑÑÑ
I
ve got
maw
hree tnings 'd
Ike
to b~chn and then I'd
I
ke
lo
smng kopen ¥Èyo
uestions
First,
I
know there's
wnm
level of Interest h
exady
what
it
wasthat ourvehicle
stuck
yes*
out
near
Haditha.
It started out In first
reoorts
as
a mine. then if went
to
IED.
çi
morning heinformal
won)
coming
out
of MNF-W is thalif
was
a
tripe-slackeri
anii-lank mine.
Voice'
You guys ere breaking up pretty
bad.
Could you
say
that again general, please?Byean
1
say it again The
e@c&
that
the
AAV
stuck
ma
npte-Stacked
ant.
Â¥ar
m
re
ad on the roadway I've
seen
wme
pictures his momig
The
crater
looks
to be amento egnl feet across
and
maybe three or four feet
deep
So
Its not one of
these
massive
thingsthat¥ev seen in fie
past
but ~~~~fcantewtneless magh
b
knock
fte
vahdeupeMe
doiÃ
and
really splà f
open
So
Us unforkineta
b
say thaio~ryoung anros never
really
had
a
cnance
On Iraqi batUlmns
I
waldxd
a program last nigh1 and oneof the comnwBlom
lalkd
aboul
heTWO Iraqi battaitons out0190 that
are
capable diighttig Thats a
real
d¥torto n
my
mind
There
are
vanous evaluation tectin
QUBS
takim dace
in
the
ttieater The lgure
90
a roughlyaccurate;
I
iink Ifs probably
closer
100 or
È
But
ofthat number, four-fifths
are
curonttylighting abngsideAm%an
forces
And
w
I
Mnkm'n got to be careful
to
holding
them
to
b
higha standud.
f
m
say
that mefre
canpleMy
able
b
noependently operate, mars
tort
01 evel one But
tin
raqis n
fact,
don
I
ave
a logistics
and intedigence
-
think a sophisticatedcommand-and-controlsystem and wtnout those things theyre nevergoing
lo
real
y
baable
b
ignl without us Nowhose things are beng created But
fi
be meantime
Die
reports we're getting back
3
that
twguys are doq
paw
dqgone good mth
regad
o
smal unit
Bctics
you
know, tquetteelplamon-leva mmpany-fevel stuff So
I
mink
we
need
b
give credit
to
wnm
young Iraqisout
hre
Inat
are
bhg ut onto the horizon and trying to& the right mmgThe th
rd
lhmg
has
lo
do
çÃ
umbof çta<x
nd
~st e lethality of all
d
hal It might
wiprim
you
b
war
mat
we
re seelng abut
500
alack! a wakor
w
Thucoinei
to
a
rwhoilawrage01 aOOJl70 a
day
Thah adua
Mess
tian
we
tfe
ustaining
at
ma
troe
last par
 
No*
some would
say
that
the
Malls up. Onceagain,
I
got som igures from our
A1
beforestepping over here. In fact, casualty
-
'm talking killed now in action-
are
roughly
the
same
from
Janualy
6uo@
July of
2004,
as
hey
are
Janualy hughJuly of
2005
Total numbm
of
casualties
are
actually down from the
period
leading
up
to
the
election,
the
sovereignty
period,
theelection
penod,
they're
down
a
little
bit
averaging roughly 100 orso a
wk
NOH,
the numben of Iraqi civilma, and me numben
of
Iraqisec~rity
orces
are up. and
I
hmn tiat
re
the
ÇÃ
ft
thing
of
wm
of
these
sud& bombm gethig doxr In
b
int
awls.
m
of
tie
szes of tie suicide VBIEDs. and so form, ano
I
mlnx thai
you
would say ad ur national
population
ought
to
say that
we
somewhat expect Iraqi
security
km
casualties
to
go up
as
heycontinueget
more
engaged.
So
I
wouM just offer those thma points
to
start
with
and then turn
it
ow
o
you
all
for
questions.Mr. Garrett
Hey
sir,
Us John
Garret
B~ohnljusttostabet~oahead.
Mr. Garrett
I
sbM now
tiis.
but
the
security
forces,
two
baskgroups there. You've got
the
several brands
of
police-type security
forces
-
I
r.
Garret
And
then you've got the military on
the
other hand.
Are
all those being
trained
underthe overeight
of
MNSTCI (Muffi-Naticmal
ecurity
TrmiUcm
Canmand
Iraq)?Yes. .ohn, they bolt come under MNSTCI. In
lad.
mydwty
directam
Is,~stmmlng
back
Baghdad boay
and
he's
go ng
b
go
ow
fad~iy
about
amtiermonth or so.
Me
will
DO
tie guy in
charge
of
poice Iralnmg.
The
UIW
star
has
fro
general
ohmwomlng lor him. one who trams
tie
mittary
and
one
wno
~ra
s me potca
But
boft
mme underlieheading
of
MNSTCI
who
pmv'xies for
tie
raning fadites.
tie
equipment.
thÃ
embeds. tima
types
Of things.Mr.
Garret
Thank youMr.
Atari:
Hey general,
Ken
Ajlard. You certainty
were
prophetic
last
month
nhen you warned usaboutthehhhoftethalii with
the
EDs. thatcatalmlvleems
to
have been
-case.
What
I'mwondering
am
twoquestiona.
Am
you
&cad
about the
fact
tiatva appear
b
be
setting
some
patterns
n
tie tactical operations?And he amer question s of
course,
naung cleared these
areas
and caitainly Had'ia
a
not the
only
one.
we
can
anabout
Fallujnh,
a
or that matBr. liea
(port
road
to
Baghdad.
Do
we
have enough forces over mere
b
actually secure
what we've
a ready fought
for?
Or
are
HO
doing tie same thng fiat
we
saw
(inaudiole)
b
Vietnam.
I
eah.
so
d
copy.
Kan.
Fint of
al
on patterns. You
know.
mnte
1
Unk It probablyme
tactics.
sxuation. I've
go1
b
ell
you.
as
you
look
at
the
grad
and
do
ie
aiionraia
ui
UW~
rea
around
riaoitia,
you
got tie linn
to
me nom, wry large
lake.
and
the dam.mars somewhat restrictive mat
direcKxi,
ou'vegot a binup area pat west of me river,
paw
ot
 
a power line and an access roadway then that leads down south, southeast rom
the
item,
nd
that's where
both
the snipare
were
hi,
as wen
as
where
the
rack
took
the strike.
So, to
the extent that those
fob
were maybeopemlngalong
the
same
mutes, avoiding the
bull-
UD
mwMion. unable
tow
north
I
on? know. But
I
ould-
1
could
see
È*
hat could bethe
c
mat panin.iirpi&a of ground You knm, mmmandersover line
mess
NOT ddng
Èa
of course, but in some ways Us unavoidable
My
oldest
son
ust
checked
n a couple of
weeks
ago
he's opening out
of
Fallupn
and
he's gdmaporeiMliy
or
MSR (main wppry fouh).Mtallgan,
MSR-Mddb
rom
Atm
Qhmib on our
to
FaUah Yw
M,
nd ol b.gh
b
bmak a
pattern
You gob
be
oul
lien.
sw
Qotla
be working
I.
ou goua
be
pnmenly
andiored
on
nose
MSRs
(naudible
-
because?) mars çtie
tho
mawof the
Iraffic
Is. So how
do
you get
crealwe
and change your
paitem
men
those are yourtasMws?
That
said.
oeode
are consciousof
I
nd
mIe
ealize that
If
you
do
get~~mpla~entwith ~Ccartainl~ad Unb an happen.
On
the second issue, do we haveenouoh
trooos?
You know.
I
hink so. we're ooemttna from
fixed
bases, mobile patois geUng
OJI
nd doing
l&
ecessary
sabrajoti
of
me
ocakms,
&-*rewe
tnnk
the
oad guys are
and
hen making sure they re
not
where
we
don
t liinkihey
are
it
ym'llpardon the use of a double mgakve
But
we
are posting people &re
we've
been
more
and
more.
Ken.
ti
ie
west
and
dwe
eopleare wanng Iraqi uniforms
AM
mat's
as
It
stah
e
Â
we're
ever
going
to
get
out
of
Here.
I
hink.thaittose
tab
are
wng o haw
b
assure
tiat
resoonsihliy
So
we.
wili
them.
dear
hand
then
we build
la<^
where
they
can
both ooerate
oil
of themselvesand rest
win
sore
assuranceagainst the V~IEDS
f
suickie ~IED~,Mr. Allad:
I
would agree
with
that because
If
anytody (who?) Is going
to
alert nu
o
hey,
the
other
guy's setting a pattern here it ought b
be
those Iraqi roop.Well. you're exactly
right
YOJ
luxm,
we
had a conversation his morning
wtti
theGhainnar on
more
ISR. out SR
in
ufbm insurgency isn't neoessanly we answer.
Ks
much
more
b
do
in
uman nt?II~gence.nd mars
W
we've
got
b
eally
capitate
on the IraqisMr. ~clnern~:~~ornclnerny-yea sir.Mr. Mctnemy: It appears
tome,
I
mean following upon this question,
is
our shortage
aH
abng
has
been inlelliicr It
isn't
the sizeof the forces we have. Ira intelligence, and of couw
you
te
hat
in
with
the
rat
lines
In from
-
n Syria,
the
support
from
Syria. So
fan
kind of
asking
you
two
questions. Do we really have
good
enough intelligence, he
HUMINT,
b
react
will
the
operaiwi
inlelliwnca? And then. of mum. what do wedo abut Syria? Thafs alwaysadna
to
be
a
problemtil
I
believe you're given cross-border authority
and
other mved abilities. Could nu omment onthose points?

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