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Wikileaks Internal e-Mail, pt. 2

Wikileaks Internal e-Mail, pt. 2

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To: John Young <jya[a t]pipeline.com> From: Wikileaks <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org> Subject:martha stuart pgp Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:20:25 -0500 -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----Version: None J. We are going to fuck them all. Chinese mostly, but not entirely a feint. Inventionabounds. Lies, twists and distorts everywhere needed for protection. Hackers monitor chineseand other intel as they burrow into their targets, when they pull, so do we. Inxhaustible supply of material. Near 100,000 documents/emails a day. We're going to crack the world open and let itflower into something new. If fleecing the CIA will assist us, then fleece we will. We havepullbacks from NED, CFR, Freedomhouse and other CIA teats. We have all of pre 2005afghanistan. Almost all of india fed. Half a dozen foreign ministries. Dozens of political partiesand consulates, worldbank, apec, UN sections, trade groups, tibet and fulan dafa associationsand... russian phishing mafia who pull data everywhere. We're drowing. We don't even know atenth of what we have or who it belongs to. We stopped storing it at 1Tb.Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:22:16 +0000 From: Ben Laurie <ben[a t]links.org> To:funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net, Hanna <snow[a t]xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: [WL] What words andphrases should we be using? [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'.This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer andplenty of backbone.] Hanna wrote: > [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. > Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer insteadto 'WL'. > This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an establishedlawyer > and plenty of backbone.] >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>>> Fwd from Julian: >> We should be consistent in our use and invention of language. A wordor > a phrase extracts meaning from its resonance with other usages and our > experiences. For instance in the FAQ we sometimes use the phrase > "ethical leaking". Should we always use thisphrase? 'leak' by itself > carries a negative. 'ethical' a strong positive. 'ethical leaking' a > positive.But it does isolate 'leaks' as being non-ethical unless we > stick 'ethical' on them. Can we make amovement from this phrase and > others? 'The ethical leaking movement'. Powerful. Can itsurvive the > heat of our vision? Ethical leaking has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? The obviousattack on this is that WL cannot distinguish ethical from unethical leaking. However, emphasisingthat WL seeks to enable ethical leaking is a good idea, it seems to me. >> We must find our own'Operation Iraqi Freedom' s -- blessings and > sanctifications that even our most diseased anddemonic opponents will > find themselves chanting to each other in the night. >> We need aphrases for 'leak facilitator', 'mail drop volunteer', > 'ethical leaker', 'wl server operator' etc, etc. >>-- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.links.org/ "There is no limit to what aman can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:19:08 +0000 From: Ben Laurie <ben[a t]links.org> To:funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net, Wikileaks <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org> Subject: Re: [WL]media contact volunteers [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. Thislist is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer and plentyof backbone.] Wikileaks wrote: > [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. > Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to'WL'. > This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawye> and plenty of backbone.] >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>For the coming media storm next week, we need time zone local telephone > contact points, withnumber (but not name) listed > on WL.ORG. >> In interviews, this just meansexplaining/interpreting the "official > position" that's written up on wl.org. You always representyourself -- > someone who's an interested party "on the advisory board", but do not > speak for wlas a whole. If they ask what about X and it's not on WL.ORG > etc, then give can your personalopinion if you think it's helpful, but > re-iterate that you're speaking for yourself. >> Thisdelegation carries some risks (to wl), but we are in a romance with > journalists hearts; if our voices sweet are not easily reachable on the > phone when their desire and deadlines peek,others voices, less honeyed > but always, always available will replace them. >> Ben, are youhappy to handle the UK? Yes, but not so sure about having my phone number posted. How
 
about an email address I can alias? ukrep[a t]WL, say. Being the geek I am, I like to talk aboutthe (potential/vague) technical architecture, too. Is this to be avoided? I personally think its a goodidea, especially for more technical publications (e.g. New Scientist). BTW, I was rather enjoyingthe fact that I didn't really know who else was on this list, given the mission, but gradually that'sbeing eroded. It's not too late to fix, though (I must blog about this: people keep claiming you can'trefund privacy. It's not true) - we could restart the list with some unknown subset of the currentsubscribers plus some new people all using anonymous email addresses. OTOH, I'm guessingthe path from me to any of you is pretty damn short, so perhaps not worth the effort :-) > R / Jake-- central europe? >> pde / dvm us west coast? >> jya, is there someway we can obscure you for the east coast? >> Chen/Lim are you happy to handle Tiawan/SEA and Mandarin language >interviews? Lim, do you speak cantonese too? >> Jamie -- africa? >> Julian / Sue / John S --oz/english asia? >> David, are you still busy with your conference? >> -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.links.org/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff To: funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net From: Hanna <snow[a t]xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 200722:13:32 -0500 Subject: [WL] We're all CIA stooges, apparently. [This is a restricted internaldevelopment mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly inthese discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective inSeattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] John Young has leaked the contentof this list, sans most identifying info to cryptome.org It's clear from his recent messages thathe's been losing it for some time. We should have checked his current mental state morethoroughly rather than relying on previous experience. The impact maybe positive. It's certainlyvery mysterious and exciting to read. I don't think there's much dissonance between our publicand private positions.Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:36:00 +0000 From: Ben Laurie <ben[a t]links.org> To:funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net, Hanna <snow[a t]xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: [WL] We're all CIAstooges, apparently. [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list ishoused at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Hanna wrote: > [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. > Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'.> This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer >and plenty of backbone.] >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> JohnYoung has leaked the content of this list, sans most identifying > info to cryptome.org Not in mycase, for the astute reader, assuming New Scientist publish the interview. > It's clear from hisrecent messages that he's been losing it for some > time. We should have > checked his currentmental state more thoroughly rather than relying on > previous experience. >> The impact maybepositive. It's certainly very mysterious and exciting > to read. I don't think there's > muchdissonance between our public and private positions. Why was his final message to this listfiltered? And does anyone understand wtf it means? -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.links.org/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far hecan go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff To: jya[a t]pipeline.com From: sympa[a t]lists.riseup.net Subject: Removed from funtimesaheadDate: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:35:54 -0800 (PST) Your address (jya[a t]pipeline.com) has beenremoved from list funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net, probably because we received non-deliveryreports for your address. You can subscribe again : mailto:sympa[at]lists.riseup.net?subject=sub%20funtimesaheadDate: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:21:19 +0000 From: Ben Laurie <ben[a t]algroup.co.uk> To:Wikileaks <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org>, funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net Subject: [WL] [Fwd:MySociety's Comment on This and wikileaks] [This is a restricted internal development mailinglistfor w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an
 
established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.htmlhttp://www.links.org/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn'tmind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff Return-Path: <ben[a t]mail.links.org> Received:from murder ([unix socket]) (authenticated user=ben bits=0) by mail.links.org (Cyrusv2.2.13) with LMTPA; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:59:25 +0000 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on mail.links.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.6X-Original-To: ben[a t]ben.algroup.co.uk Delivered-To: ben[a t]ben.algroup.co.uk Received: fromchainmail.thebunker.net (chainmail.thebunker.net [213.129.64.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) bymail.links.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B959333C1E for <ben[a t]ben.algroup.co.uk>;Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:59:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from router.foriru.co.uk ([82.152.78.249]helo=sebastian.foriru.co.uk) by chainmail.thebunker.net with esmtp (TLSv1:DHE-RSA- AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1H3f6X-000GqB-C8 for ben[at]algroup.co.uk; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:58:57 +0000 Received: from sebastian.foriru.co.uk(localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sebastian.foriru.co.uk (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP idl07KwhZo018271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO)for <ben[a t]algroup.co.uk>; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:58:44 GMT Received: from localhost(sams[a t]localhost) by sebastian.foriru.co.uk (8.13.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP idl07Kwbem006790 for <ben[a t]algroup.co.uk>; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:58:43 GMT X- Authentication-Warning: sebastian.foriru.co.uk: sams owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 Jan2007 20:58:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Sam Smith <S[a t]mSmith.net> X-X-Sender: sams[at]sebastian.foriru.co.uk To: Ben Laurie <ben[a t]algroup.co.uk> Message-ID:<Pine.BSO.4.64.0701072053030.16450[a t]sebastian.foriru.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-ALD-MailScanner: Believed clean X- ALD-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 5) Subject:MySociety's Comment on This and wikileaks Hey Ben, A long shot, but do you have anything todo with wikileaks? There's a conversation in their cryptome posted log aboutcommentonthis.com, and, if they're credible (John Young suggests not), I'd would be happy tohave a conversation if they had questions or wanted to engage with CoT. Regards Sam --Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to othersTo: funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net From: Wikileaks <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org> Date: Mon, 8Jan 2007 07:20:09 -0500 Subject: [WL] Fwd: The Times of London/Request [This is a restrictedinternal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that worddirectly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activistcollective in Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Ben, you want the firstbite? Begin forwarded message: From: "Richards, Jonathan" <jonathan.richards[at]thetimes.co.uk> Date: 8. Januar 2007 05:08:32 GMT-05:00 To: <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org>Subject: The Times of London/Request Hi, I'm a tech reporter at The Times of London. I heardabout your initiative. Sounds v. interesting. Would any 'Wikileaker' be available for a chat atsome point today (Mon)? I'd like to know when you're planning to post the first of your 1.1 milliondocuments. Not to mention where they all came from. But there's a couple of other things too -where the idea sprang from etc. Just a general interview about the site, I guess. I look forward tohearing from you. Kind Regards, Jonathan Richards Reporter, The Times +44 207 782 5303The Newspaper Marketing Agency: Opening Up Newspapers: www.nmauk.co.uk This e-mail and all attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you have received this e-mailin error, notify the sender immediately. Do not use, disseminate, store or copy it in any way.Statements or opinions in this e-mail or any attachment are those of the author and are notnecessarily agreed or authorised by News International (NI). NI Group may monitor emails sentor received for operational or business reasons as permitted by law. NI Group accepts no liabilityfor viruses introduced by this e-mail or attachments. You should employ virus checking software.News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the NewsInternational group and is registered in England No 81701

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